1. Your cunt 2. If Russia invaded your ally would you fight

But Poland, France are russian allies.

>>53707747
Flag
I would fight for anyone who wasn't Muslim if it meant Russia would burn.

>>53707747
>germany
I didn't think I could hate them anymore than I already did but here we are.

>>53707747
1. Argentina
2. No
We can't fight a war inside our own territory and you want us to take the war to russia?

>>53707931
If Russia attacked Uruguay you wouldn't be a nice buddy and help them?

We don't have allies and we'd be fighting a nuclear power. So no.

Ahm... Yes, I would fight with your ally.

>>53707931
>>53707965
And nothing of value was lost.

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>>53707747
>83% no

>>53707747
They would send some bulavas to Rio and São Paulo than we would sue for peace. Such is our state at the moment.

>>53707958
No, we would surrender.

NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE

>>53707747
>not defending your allies
what's the point of being allies then?

>>53708085
>not defending your allies
>what's the point of being allies then?
We've recently started wondering this in relation to everyone in Europe that isn't the UK and Poland.

>>53707747
I would never want to get into a conflict with Russia.

Especially over a European country, which isn't worth it.

>>53708156
>We've recently started wondering this in relation to everyone in Europe that isn't the UK
>what is Suez Crisis

>>53708198
>I would never want to get into a conflict with Russia.
Pussy

Who the fuck said yes?

>>53708255
me

>>53708198
Fucking pinko

>>53708215
>what is Suez Crisis
A footnote in history as far as we're concerned.

>>53708225
Going up against Russia is not the same as going up against the Middle Eastern countries our nation is oh so fond of engaging.

>>53708255
Aye.

Russia must die so that we all can live.

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>>53708255
Me, you pussy faggot.

no fuk it 2bh lads

>>53708255
I did.

And I meant it too.

>>53708294
Yes it is, they have the same 40 year old soviet equipment.

The only difference is that Russia has nukes which is irrelevant as not even they are that stupid to use them.

>>53708255

Americans

>>53708318
speak for yourself, yank

>>53708359
hats off to you

>>53708370
Russia has been modernizing in recent years, and that's not getting into the feasibility of a land invasion.

It's easy to talk about war when your life isn't on the line fighting it.

>>53708370

Someone said the exact same thing before Vietnam War.

We're in an alliance for a fucking reason, so yes, I would support the USA's intervention of a defensive war of one of our allies

Keking at the pussies who think alliances are just paper tigers

>>53708370
that's hilarious, but looking past your American pride you have to admit Russia>USA

>>53708395
I'll speak for my country and by extension the entire western world thank you much.

If you unironically fear Russia then you're too stupid to be allowed residency in rhe UK and you need to go back to Eastern Poland.

>>53708437
Personally, I wouldn't fight myself as I'm not exactly built as a soldier (not fat either mind you) and I have other ways to serve my cunt

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>>53708462
>eastern Poland

stop, humiliating yourself, burgerfriend

>>53708437
I question the value of an alliance when we're the ones who have to provide defense if someone else is invaded, but can't expect any help in return if our country was getting attacked directly.

>>53708412
>Russia has been modernizing in recent years
So..they're up to 1980 tech now?

It doesn't practically matter if you knock off five years in a half century tech gap.

>>53708413
If we had the same K/D ratio against Russia as we did against the NVA it would be a very quick war indeed.

Personally I'd be satisfied with that but given the discrepency in capability it's likely to be even more lopsided.

only if americas going.


Canada v russia would get us stomped, but with the US we have a fighting chance

>>53708614
should have bought some nice F-35s :3

>>53708614
>a fighting chance
That's a weird way of spelling a 100% chance of victory.

>>53708614
Canada would never get involved in anything as long as Trudeau is in charge.

The best way to defeat an opponent is to show them a Canadian society full of harmony!

I would like to, but Trudeau would probably just want to send them winter jackets instead.

>>53708318
kekd if rekt

>>53708713
He has a weird fetish with that shit. It's fucking clouding his logical thinking and making us look like fucking idiots in front of our allies


Military/political experts here are baffled and can't figure out why is he so fucking keen on pulling our jets out of Iraq. He still hasn't given a logical explanation, and never will because there isn't one.

>>53708773
P-please don't leave Iraq ;-;

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Are there any bored russians here who will listen to my russian and tell me if it sounds understandable?

just started learning it about 8 months prior, just learned how to trill my r's 7 months prior..

spasibo

>>53708829
Even if we take the jets out, JTF2, training personnel, and our transports will stay either way.
We probably won't even pull our jets out. There is no logical reason to and Trudeau will have to admit it soon

The real weakness of Russia is in the Russian mentality toward governance. Russians only respect strength and force, much like niggers in that regard.

The don't think about quality of life, they don't understand economics, all they can comprehend is a strongman who can supposedly protect them from some "hostile" outside power. This role currently being played by the United States.

So how do you defeat Russia? Cut off the head.

>>53707747
This is hilarious.

>>53708462
>entire western world
Yeah nah

>>53708995
what is?

>>53707747
Maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing for Russia to conquer those cowardly shits. Better to be cucked by Russians than ackbars anyway.

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I don't think Russia is any threat to anyone's sovereignty.

The biggest threat is America and """European""" """"Union""""

Russia barerly holds itself together. Attacking any country would be a huge problem for them. Also I don't think China would sit on their asses if Russia was occupied with another war. China joining in would also mean USA joining in. And here, you sparkled a Third World war.

>>53709053
>grease
>western
White people pay their denbts.

>>53709072
USA and China are best allies. What kind of war are you even talking about, they will take over the world in case of any global conflict.

>>53709111
USA tried to drag Russia on their side for a war with China.

Mark my words. If the war breaks out "naturally" it would be Ameirca and Russia ganging on China.

>>53709098
>The biggest threat is America
The fuck did we do?

>>53709139
Not people, your elite. And I mean ELITE.

You're funding Israel,recolonizating the middle east. You control the western media in which you can make a boogeyman of anyone. You create the terrorists.

>>53709133
Or more likely USA + Russia vs EU + China

>>53707747
No of course not.
If I could rule we would be neutral tomorrow.

>>53708921
>So how do you defeat Russia?
Do nothing, she will eventually kill herself again.

>>53709133
We like China though. We're best frenemies.

>>53709183
China already said no to Merkel. They don't want any relations with Europe.
Chineese have that special mentality when they look forward and back in a matter of centuries, not only few years.

>>53707747
Voted No))))

>>53709108
We do senpai.

>>53709209
where*
>>53709196
Get serious. China is a serious threat to American hegemony.

>>53709169
>You're funding Israel,recolonizating the middle east.
I don't want to jump to conclusions but I have to ask: are you suggesting these are bad things?

>>53709230
I guess refugee crisis and Israeli genociding people isn't a bad thing, right?

>>53707747
>germany
REEEE

what is actually wrong with germans? Why do people glorify them when they're the most pathetic people on earth?

No. And we should leave NATO as soon as possible.

At least the gouvernment doesnt participate in wars or spends much on the army.

>>53709228
>China is a serious threat to American hegemony.
Nah.

Their collapsing economy is a kick in the nuts to the Dow at the moment but it's nothing we can't soldier through. We've dealt with worse.

>>53709254
>Why do people glorify them when they're the most pathetic people on earth?

>Not wanting to die for some corrupt gouverments in eastern europe
>Pathetic
You are free to enlist, Ill stay here and drink beer.

>>53709254
Because they had nice uniforms and coat of arms. That's the only reason.
>>53709287
>their collapsing economy
Conversation is over.

>>53709209
>China already said no to Merkel. They don't want any relations with Europe.
So what? In politics its all very unstable. In Russia vs China conflict EU is natural Chinese ally. EU is greatest USA rival now as well.

>>53709133
>>53709168
>People with zero understanding of politics
USA and China don't need Russia. China and USA are economical lovers. China is #1 market now, it makes many things for western companies, it buys what west makes. Russia is an outsider on this party.

>>53709299
China doesn't need allies to wipe the floor with Russia.

>>53709247
The refugee thing Is Germany's fault. And yes Israel killing palestinians is a good thing. I wish they did it more often.

>>53707896
The question is basically 'would you start WW3 over Estonia or Latvia'

>>53709326
Is Germany bombing the shit out of Syrian civilians instead of "ISIS"?

The only fault that is Germans is that they lack balls to overthrow Merkel KGB bitch.

>>53709297
Shill pls.

Every reputable economist on earth figures China is experiencing 3-5% growth right now. Factor that to demographics and you have a borderline collapse. Ignoring it won't change reality, China is kill.

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>>53709055
France, Italy and Germany numbers.

>>53709328
Truthfully yes, but not for Germany.

>>53709406
>Every reputable economist on earth figures China is experiencing 3-5% growth right now. Factor that to demographics and you have a borderline collapse. Ignoring it won't change reality, China is kill.
Your paid "economists"?

Nice of you to lack any arguments and jsut scream "shill" like typical monkey. Keep believing in American economy. You'll be lucky to not break out in the next few years.

>>53709313
This
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Two

>>53709247
>removal of Mudslimes is a bad thing

???

>>53709406
>China is kill.
-Americans since the 80s
>Every reputable economist on earth figures China is experiencing 3-5% growth right now.
Because they slowed it down artificially and 5% is still great for an emerging industrial country like China.
>Factor that to demographics
One child policy was canceled. Theyll be fine.

>>53709186
You can't be Austria. Too big for that.

>>53709269
>No. And we should leave NATO as soon as possible.
Are you insane?

>>53709447
>he's too poor to own stock
You're right m8, China's fine, those of us with means only got completely assfucked in the markets the last two weeks because of memes.

China is crashing hard and capital is gloeing out like a sieve.

>>53709515
He's German.

>>53709439
Good and we wont for Poland or Estonia. They can fight and we will be the peaceful Germans, like you always wished.
>>53709420
Why fight if we can sell and buy shit from both sides? Same we do now in the Ukraine conflict. German companies simply dont care about the sanctions.

>>53709481
>5% growth factored to Chinese demographics
Do the math. That's a disaster.

>>53709489
A country is never too big for something.
>>53709515
Not really. It will pretty much only make official what is already the case: That Germany doesnt want and doesnt have the capabilities to defend anything but Gemany itself.

>>53709515
Strong countries don't need NATO anymore. Germany can own all Europe in about 20 years if it leaves NATO. They can get more influence than USA if they get rid of it themselves of course :D

>>53709584
Is population growth higher than 5%?
No its around 0,5.The population gets constantly richer.

>>53709322
meh, it does. We have great advantages in deffencive war with them. Their supply lines will be cut off completly.

>>53709515
Danes not raiding the coast anymore and Belgians are a lot more peaceful than usual. I think we'll manage.

>>53709593
>modern Germany
>defending itself

Ha.

>>53709605
Germany can't do shit until they realize purchasing ammunition for their rifles isn't LITERALLY HITLER.

Fuck Germans desu, they have the weakest minds in history.

Any "nation" that invented communism, fell enamored with fascism, and is now drunk on pacifistic liberal globalism is a nation of subnormal intellectual idiots.

Germany needs to be balkanized.

>>53709593
>A country is never too big for something.
Small countries can be allowed to play neutral, big countries are forced to pick sides.

>>53708359
>>53708255
I would fight for France

>>53709633
Which would be good math if there wen't over half a billion people in China still eating dirt who can't afford to buy fucking shoes.

Do your math again.

>>53709687
Name one single country that is realistically in a position to attack Germany with its army and withstand the following international sanctions. There is none. Same goes for Belgium or Austria, which isnt even in NATO.
No need for NATO anymore.

>If Russia invaded your ally would you fight with them?
Depends on the ally, if it's some eastern European shithole i wouldn't support a war.

>>53709797
Any country that has guns. Last I heard your army was so short on equipment and ammo that they used broomsticks in place of rifles and yelled bang in place of shooting.

>>53709803
America, UK, Canada, NZ, Indonesia

>>53709797
>Name one single country that is realistically in a position to attack Germany with its army and withstand the following international sanctions.
Flag.

>>53709731
Not really. There are enough examples of big countries that stand outside of conflicts.
One being the USA who didnt pick a side in WW1 until its president really wanted to wage war and kill some peasants to fuel the American industry.
>>53709753
And the 5% means that the situation will slowly improve as it is currently doing.Only around 6/7% are still extremely poor by the way. Not 40.

No wonder so many Germans are opposted to it. They can't fly ::DDD Even Turks are better at dealing with warplanes, I guess next German leader is going to be Turkish.

>>53709870
>And the 5% means that the situation will slowly improve as it is currently doing.
Nope. I see you didn't bother to do the math.

You let me down senpai.

>>53709797
Any country determined to attack and invade Germany isn't going to give a fuck about sanctions.

>>53709858
Not Indonesia but the others, sure.

>implying Russia could afford to invade anyone without collapsing within a year when their whole economy is based on selling natural gas to Europe
>implying they would even gain anything out of starting a war
>implying Russia could even hold any territory they gained in a war they somehow won
>implying China would allow Russia to seriously fuck with the global economy
>implying NATO isn't just about bombing third world shitholes and preventing EU defense integration
>implying what's guaranteeing peace is some tanks and planes in the Baltic countries and not mutual destruction

>>53707747
No, Russia today is justice unlike cold war era.
I'd rather join the Russian side to support it.

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>>53709903
T-thanks

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>tfw Russia invades an Eastern European nation and the Anglosphere are the only ones who rise to defend them

>>53709328
>The question is basically 'would you start WW3 over Estonia or Latvia'
ya if they need to be defended and they are in NATO then of course you should help your ally

just because they are small doesn't mean you can just let russia invade them

im kinda glad that germans are slowly bing replaced

>>53709911
>>implying Russia could even hold any territory they gained in a war they somehow won
Come and take Konigsberg then))
Also, Ukraine, Crimea is waiting for you.

>>53709911
They could, and would, invade the shit out of Germany if we didn't like Poland as much as we do.

The Bundeswher couldn't do anything but bend over.

>>53709862
Not really. You cant stage great naval invasions against other modern countries anymore and every other country in europe+China would economically destroy the US for such a move.
Its not the 18th century.
>>53709847
The German army is very capable of defending the country.
>>53709896
I see you didnt do the math.

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>>53709960
>>53709328
>not protecting the balts
cunt

>>53709990
>I see you didnt do the math.
I'm literally paid to. You're a fucking idiot.

>>53709964
>They could, and would, invade the shit out of Germany
no.

>>53709911
that logic you got there sure saved crimea

No, of course not.

>>53709911
>implying China would allow Russia to seriously fuck with the global economy

I kind of want to see them do something, because they abstain from pretty much everything in world affairs.

>>53710004
>Argument
>Counter argument
>You didnt do the math
>Ditto
>Youre an idiot
Very constructive discussion.

>>53710010
Crimea wasn't really invaded.

Serious question... why are we at odds with Russia in this day and age? They're not the Soviet Union. They're capitalistic (mostly). They only disagree with the West on ideology, which can be mostly overlooked (we work with Saudi Arabia ffs).

Russia vs. the West is an idiotic neo-con fiesta perpetrated by boomers who can't leave the cold war behind. Let's work together with Russia. Imagine if we had a pan-Northern alliance. Russia joining NATO would make us absolutely untouchable. We could try and make a bridge in the Bering Strait to improve trade. I can see more Russian qt grills and Russians can see more Maine Coons and British Shorthairs.

Imagine the possibilities.

>>53707747
god why are germans so disgusting?
if your friend is in trouble you help them, how is that simple concept too much for german brains?

>>53710007
Doesn't matter, they would invade Poland, which matters.

Such is the 21st century German geopolitical strategy, being sandwiched between two countries that actually matter.

>>53710051
Russians are evil

>>53709964
>They could, and would, invade the shit out of Germany if we didn't like Poland as much as we do.
Yeah and they would do the same with Kazakhstan or Switzerland if they werent in NATO. Thanks for saving us.

>>53710051
>why are we at odds with Russia in this day and age?
There can be only one.

I'm a coward so I'd hide and let everyone else do the fighting. I'll root for our side from from the sidelines

>>53710051
That's pretty much what Trump is advocating.

>>53710051
they just invaded their neighbor after they overthrew putin's puppet government
we are basicly in a proxy war with them right now in syria
are you retarded, ya were not cold war levels but we are from being on friendly terms with them.

>>53710082
t. Hans

>>53710075
The did to Georgia, Moldova, and Ukraine..

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>>53710106
Thanks Obama.

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>>53710132
W-why did Bush give Putin flowers?

>>53710056
>Doesn't matter, they would invade Poland, which matters.
No they couldnt. They couldnt invade Crimea without bombing their own economy. Would they invade Poland in a full scale invasion they would run out of supplies before being even out of base.

In case Russia invades Poland which would be the second?
>>53710055
Because you arent our friends and most people dont want to die in some cold shit hole with a strange name.

>>53710124
Seems like all of these countries share a direct border with Russia and have border disputes with the country.
Germany seems like the next logical target here.

>>53710178

> he still thinks it's the "sanctions" fucking Russia up

m'virgin

>>53710106
And we're trying to overthrow Assad to cripple Russian power in the region. Democracy and stability? We've defiled multiple Middle Eastern nations in order to stem Russian (then Soviet) expansion. Ukraine is harder to comment on, because, if my history is right, the Russian empire left the peninsula all Russian, and now they want to rejoin.

I'm going for the root though. WHY are we trying to counter them in Syria, when we can be working together? That's why I like Trump, he sees the potential in working together

>>53710212
>Seems like all of these countries share a direct border with Russia and have border disputes with the country.
the balts border russia and they are in NATO
would you not defend the balts?

>>53710251
As I said, no.
Germany should be neutral regarding military conflicts and stay within its own borders.

>>53710167
That last panel is adorable. There should be a show of those two going on adventures

>>53710178
They absolutely would invade Poland if they could, but you're right in that they couldn't without being shrekt.

The real question is why do we live in a world wherein Poland could 1v1 Germany in a matter of weeks?

The answer seems to be that Germans consider military protection to be the responsibily of Americans, but you always seem to forget that we hate you.

>>53709961
>Come and take Konigsberg then))
What for? It's a shithole with a naval base. The only value you get out of taking Königsberg is denying Russia a base there.
>Also, Ukraine, Crimea is waiting for you.
Crimea wasn't a war and all Russia got out of Novorossia was some production lines to maintain their 80ies vintage hardware.
There's a reason Russia didn't officially invade Ukraine and went with supporting militias instead.

>>53709964
The only value of Germany lies in its economy, an invasion would destroy that. You end up with 80 million more mouths to feed and have to somehow pay for an occupying force.

>>53710010
Driving some tanks out of their barracks and setting up a couple road blocks isn't a war.

>>53710233
It's too bad Trump is the only one saying those things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjo4u88no7U

>>53710339
Get off the fucking computer and make children. A majority of Germans are to be over 50, come 2050.
GET
OFF
THE
FUCKING
COMPUTER
AND
FUCK
KRAUT

>>53710310
>wherein Poland could 1v1 Germany in a matter of weeks?
lel

>>53710296
If you're going to be neutral in military matters then you need to be also neutral in economic and political matters.

This half-assed pretend country bullshit is no longer cute when you're using it to destroy Europe.

>>53710296
But they also EU memebrs, how can you abandon them?

>>53710388
Wait..you don't actually think Germany could win a war with Poland do you?

>>53710310
>Poland could 1v1 Germany in a matter of weeks?

>Poland attacks
>The Polish arrive at the conclusion that the German military is twice their size and has five times the funds
>Polish ambassador asks for peace
>German chancellor didnt even know the declaration of war wasnt a joke
We could make it a comedy short film of some sort.

>>53710296
why would you not want to help the balts
they are your fellow europeans. americans know next to nothing about the balts but they would help them.
do you not have any sympathy for your european brothers in the baltics?
>Germany should be neutral regarding military conflicts
spineless thinking like that is the reason you're being over run by roving rape gangs

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>>53710310
>wherein Poland could 1v1 Germany in a matter of weeks?

I would never fight my Russian brothers

>>53710443
russiaboos are cancer
I bet you own hammer and sickle merchandise and use the term comrade

>>53710443
>fifth column

>>53710431
Polish army: 120.000 people
German army: 180.000 people
What are they gonna do? Attack with the tanks that are maintained, built and supplied by a German company?

>>53710436
>do you not have any sympathy for your european brothers in the baltics?
Not really if that means I actively have to fight.

>>53710435
Are you aware that Poland has more tanks than Germany, the UK, and France combined?

I'd be willing to discuss air power insofar as it relates to neutralizing armor if any of Germany's planes could fly but reports suggest that isn't the case.

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This thread is pretty entertaining

Proceed

>>53710523
you are like the only country in russia's version of nato
in fact you are the only former eastern bloc country that still likes russia
why? every other country under russia hates them

>>53710471

>russiaboos are cancer

American's like you are cancer. I'm here trying to enjoy the remaining 60ish years of my life and you're actively trying to ruin it by dragging me into your bullshit.

>>53710506
>Are you aware that Poland has more tanks than Germany, the UK, and France combined?
And all supplies for these tanks come from Germany while all the workers maintaining the tanks are workers from a German company, you imbecile.

>>53710565
I bet you drink vodka from a flask and own a ushanka

>>53710481
>polish tanks
1000
>german tanks
~150

I don't bet on retards, and you sir are a retard if you think Germany could take out 1000 pieces of armor with a half dozen operational jets.

>>53710559

because belarus is a wasteland full of russian airbases, but unlike ukraine never developed their own culture

>>53710600
They can tow them over the border when they have no more spare parts and run out of fuel.

>>53710600
There are only three military powers in Europe, France, the UK and Poland. Germany is on the same level as Spain and Italy, and is in fact even weaker than those two.

>>53710481

Polish army: angry byldos and nazi catholics

German army: disarmed sisses that don't even get guns or working armor or airplanes

>>53710590

I bet you own Bible you've never read and wish WWE was still as great as it used to be

>>53710600
Yep. ~150 tanks and no Stukas. Are german air forces have any Sturzkampfflugzeug now?

>>53709191
Good girl!
>>53710474
Liberashkas, sir.

>>53710706
Did you forget they're best bros with us? They'll get all the fuel and parts they need.

>>53707747
>women would willingly accept white gene
>more important thing is my life
Nope.

>>53710585
No need to be hurtful lad

>>53710749
The crazy thing is Poland's F-16 block 50s and MiG-29s could probably rekt the Luftwaffe's shithouse Tranche 1s even if their planes could get in the air, which they can't.

>>53710559
>you are the only former eastern bloc country that still likes russia

I personally am not all that into Russia and I prefer our country be more western-oriented, but the thing is the west doesn't see my poor little Belaruse as something that can prove useful for them.

Our gubmint on the other hand does because Russia supplies them with lower price gas and moreover they have access to their market.

>>53710787
>Land lease
Only when it will be clear that germans rekt the winged hussars, but anyway, this is a good point.

>>53710559
>the former eastern bloc
>the only country
Also Serbia, I guess. (БPAЋA ЗAУBEК CMO).

>>53710930
No thanks, Poles are bros.

Fuck Germans. We rekt them three times already, one more won't hurt.

>>53711029
>won't hurt
Especially for you.

>>53710436
>americans know next to nothing about the balts but they would help them.
That's because the war would not be in America's backyard

>>53711109
You're a big guy Ivan.

>>53710977
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_Security_Treaty_Organization
ya but serbia is only an observer not a member of russia's nato

>>53711129
we would fight in our latin america/south american backyard if we had any nato allies there

>>53711148
... for you.

>>53711209
>if we had any nato allies there
>implying that would ever happen

>>53711281
careful before we take over veracruz again

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>>53711189
Didn't even know this emblem, it's so NATO emblem-like.

>NATO countries
>"ugh I don't wanna help my allies even if we're literally in a military alliance"
the fuck is the point of NATO then?

I'm glad Finland is not a member of NATO as it seems to be a group of fucking pussies.
The only way it would make sense is some guarantee of nukes

>>53707747
Why is Germany becoming a cuck?

>>53711298
The eternal anglo shows his face finally

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no

>>53707747
Only solution I see is invade them before they invade us.

ALLAHU AKBAR!!!

>>53707896
>dying for poooland
>1945+71

I'm sure we will find a diplomatic solution.

>>53711336
>the fuck is the point of NATO then?


NATO was specifically assembled to counter russian imperialism in western yurop

they fucked up hard by getting involved in the middle east instead.

This "alliance" has over exhausted itself and it's time to dissolve this white devil lie.

>>53707747

US confirmed as being the only country with balls.

>>53711336
>the fuck is the point of NATO then?
To subsidize US adventurism, if NATO was still about defending Europe force composition would be similar to what it was like during the cold war but on a smaller scale.

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>>53711500
>53711500
The day I see US forces bombing moscow into dust is the day I will confirm your balls theory.


until then, oops, looks like the reds have won, joe.

>>53711539

>2016
>Germans not whipped out of existance for American lebensraum

Why is this allowed?

>>53711493
I agree, I don't want to defend you anyway

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>>53711500

>US has never won a war (despite starting the most)
vs
>Russia who won against crusaders, mongols, napoleon, and hitler

>>53711565
Chertoffsky right.

>>53709326
>Destroying the balance of power in the Middle East, ruining stable countries and buying oil from Wahhabi goat fuckers to make them rich and able to fund terrorism.
>It's all Germoneys fault, I swear!

Sometimes I want to see every single American dead...

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>>53711669
Neither do I want to fight for yours.

besides, you fuckers are too bolshevik broke from your Iraqi/afghani adventures. And now China wants it's loans back and whatcha gonna do? give them israel as collateral? lol

It's not like you pissons can afford to fight for my country.....or any other yuro "alliance"....lol

>>53711565
Our allies:
G20

Russian allies:
Poverty

Check and m8.

>>53711684

God damnit. I need to get to bed but the fecal matter keeps flowing out of you. Try: never lost a war, faggot.

>>53711717

>my decisions are someone else's fault! I should never be held responsible for my own actions!

cuck mindset

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>>53709552
>They can fight and we will be the peaceful Germans, like you always wished.

>>53708506
you don't know what you are talking about, war is not only about weapons.

>>53711882
It's our fault that we don't shout everyone who tries to cross the border, but not that the middle east is fundamentaly fucked up and millions of people trying to get to Europe.

>>53711933

It's also about training and economic ability, neither of which Russia has in spades.

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>>53708665
>100% chance of victory.
that's what Napoleon and Hitler thought too. But everyone has to learn on his own.

>>53711962

Half of it courtesy of the US and the UK, but the other half courtesy of the Arab Spring and the half dozen civil wars and broken economies that occured as a result. The Arab Spring was undoubtedly the worst thing to happen to MENA since the invasion of Iraq.

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>>53709552


hans

you wouldnt be able to rally up all those Turk and Kurd refugees into a war frenzy to for for your "fatherland" even if you gave them double welfare and burned down the reichstagg again.

So long savages, you always were the weakest link. :^)

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>>53708665
>100% chance of victory

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>>53712054

>100% chance of his country surviving this war

>>53710167
>Bush leaves Putin
>Putin invades Ukraine
It's all a cry for attention

>>53707747

I wouldn't fight for any of those countries for any reason, actually I can't think of fighting for any other country than mine for any reason. Maybe Estonia but they'd be annexed before we can row over there.

Yet our elite wants us to join this bullshit phony alliance anyway.

>>53712338
Good for you Pekka, never give up your honor.

>>53711833
All right, guy, you've proved your point. Ra Ra America

>>53712338
Joining NATO pretty much means the US and UK will be obligated to defend your country, and your government can then reduce spending on its own military.

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>>53712464
>trusting the US and UK to fight for my country

you gotta be a pretty good naive goyim to fall for that kike ruse.
lol look whats happening with this "alliance" as all these anglo frauds shit their panties at the thought of holding up their word and reinforce Turkey.

>>53710051
>Russia joining NATO
It's impossible, US weapon lobby would never allow this

>>53712542
It doesn't matter if you believe it, but it's the only reason why anyone would want to join NATO now.

Obviously, everything falls apart once NATO has to actually live up to its charter.

>>53712464

And I would completely trust them to honor those obligations. You know, if Russia were to actually attack us, they'd have some regime crazy enough to at least bluff about using nuclear weapons if the West gets involved. Would you help us? Nope.

>>53712612
the americans and british are just as big of scoundrels as russians.

Dont worry, China has em all by the balls now.

>>53707747
depends what ally. if it's the US it's automatically war anyway. other then that i don't really give a single fuck about anyone outside the commonwealth

>>53712464
>UK will be obligated to defend your country,
Well, Poland have expierensed this once...

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>>53712832
At least we nailed a couple of kacaps so it was worth it, and we'll nail more

>>53707747
>2. If Russia invaded your ally


Stop bullying Estonia

>>53712690

>liking the Eternal Sino

Poles have to be cucked by someone, I guess

I'm pretty sure our country would defend Germany and the USA.

>>53712612
>>53712832
Like I said here >>53712602

NATO membership today is completely superficial. In an actual conflict with Russia, or any country that matters, Article 5 of the NATO treaty would fall apart.

But as long as NATO continues to exist, it allows for members to not have to bother spending on their military.

>>53708773
Jets most likely won't leave till the mission ends which is march. our military has been stepping up pounding shit as much as they can due to thinking they'll be pulled out at any moment but that'd be fucking retarded when the mission already ends in a month a a half

i also think he might be laying off plans to get us out anyway due to all the recent shit and most likely pressure from the military and allies behind closed doors. i actually wouldn't be surprised to see him end up extending the mission

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>>53712955
Your enemies

are our allies

we all do what we gotta do, to fight your imperialism and for our freedom.

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>>53712866
>nailed
Is it proper use of English or you just translated Polish analogue of word "pribili" to English?
Also, don't be so angry, kurwa, nobody wants to invade you

>>53707747
What is the basis of that military conflict? (THE ONLY QUESTION WORTH ASKING YOU DUMBFUCKS)

>>53713011

Your country certainly making the best Koreans proud by reshuffling state media to suit the current regimes propaganda campaign.

Good luck with your police state. We will continue on the hard road of the civilised world without you.

>>53713089
>Good luck with your police state.


yeah good luck with your as well.

>>53713066
irrelevant, i don't care if Prince Harry fucks Putins grandmother, the empire will be defended

>>53707747
Mexico

Yes

>Spain
>France
>Italy
>Germany

The only reason you faggots are free and prosperous at all is because the US spends as much as it does on defence. If it wasn't for them and their retard huge military budget you'd have all crumbled in the fifties and even a collapsed bankrupt Soviet Union would have fucked you into the dirt with the greatest of ease in 1991.

You're cowards, shitty ungrateful gutless fucking cowards.


The will to fight is everything.

>>53709328
The implications are far larger than that you stupid fucking twat.

>>53707747

As more "war loser" country, more "should not" response gets the interview.

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>>53713336
I really wish soviets went relentless on western yurotrashes

russian would be yurups' 2nd (and in some cases 1st) language these days instead of english.

I hope you faggots keep it up so it comes to that though.

>>53713255

>Mexico

If you seriously think Europeans can't stop a Russian army then you're just completely retarded.

Funny to see fat american teenagers who are "ready" to fight with world power #1.

Ah yes, this picture and this thread again.

The answers to a theoretical question like that are ALWAYS going to be different than when it actually happens.

>1. no 59 votes (52%)
>2. YES 55 votes (48%)

lel

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Yes

A stable Europe is in our national interest

>>53707747
Article 5 is not a matter of public option.

>>53707747
>implying we'd even need the bottom 3

the US could btfo Russia by itself, but if China joined Russia in the fight we'd probably need the UK and some one else just because of the sheer numbers that'd come out of China

>>53708085
Spying and getting away without any consequences ;)

Russia is more of a friend to us than any of the butthurt belt ""countries"" NATO has forced us to ally to

so no, i wouldn't fight one of our most important commercial partner with whom we also have deep cultural connection

Latvia can get fucked

>>53708085
Spying and getting away with it without any consequences ;)

>>53707747
RUSSIA IS MY ALLY

B
R
I
C
S

>>53715460
be britain's ally instead pls

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>>53709191
Sure, but how many will she manage to drag with her in the fall?

>France
Fucking pussy nation. I wish we got a real fucking military threat, bring back memories of WW2. That's the only thing that could bring this shitty people a sense of patriotism and respect of its allies.

Flag
YES except if it's fucking turkey. Then I would support russia, I want t*rks to root in hell so bad

>>53716122
why

germany is our best ally. We got your back ;)