Is señor Trump really going to win? Are we going to witness

>>53446095
I hope so.

It's absolutely astounding Donald Trump is somehow the least shitty of all the candidates. If I'm going to be stuck eating shit for four years then serve me shit with a side of memes. Maybe then the parties will fucking get serious and actually bother nominating someone who isn't a felon or a drooling retars

Viva Trump!

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>>53446095
Yes, people are waking up.

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>>53446095

>FOX

I bet you think RT is a credible source of info as well. Am I right, amigo?

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>>53446095
He's had this thing won since the Paris attacks. Everyone who has come out and attacked Trump sees their support start disappearing. Jeb went after him hard and Hillary went after him hard, and they've both been exposed and the new polling reflects this.

>>53446394
It honestly might not be THAT far off. I'm a democrat and I'm voting for him if my choice is Shillary.

is there anyone who really cares about who will be next american predident?

they always do the same shit, if trump wins their jewish owners will tell "no no you cant do this" and they'll have just a meme president doing the same than the rest but with more public emphasis maybe

Eh, I like him but his fans are cancerous as fuck and treat him like some sort of god. He's an OK candidate but not something worth drooling over

>>53446421
The rape and assault cover ups don't help either. It's amazing having so much fuel to battle with libs with.

>>53446460
entertainment factor, my friend

I think we are entering age of the rapid death of the left.

Exciting times

>>53446460
>trump
>caring about big business donors
He has ten billion dollars and funds his own campaign with his own money with absolutely no fucks left over for change.

>Source: Fox news

I don´t say anything else

>>53446307
>>53446356
half the shit is he says he's going to implement is unconstitutional and will never pass the house or senate

i'd rather have trump than shillary as president but let's not pretend he's going to make some huge changes

>>53446596
the USA never had a left

>>53446479
t. Bernie Sanders

>>53446687
>half the shit is he says he's going to implement is unconstitutional and will never pass the house or senate
I know that I'm not expecting miracles, I just know for a fact Hillary will be actively bad for the country.

>>53446712
Thank God, we'd be as shitty as Spain or the rest of the commie banana republics you spawned.

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>>53446307
i hope not. trump is gonna let putin annex the shit out of us.

>>53446832
Having no left wing party is as bad as having no right wing party (like in Latin America)

>>53446855
oy vey the goyim are not busy fighting each other anymore

>>53446855
I hope so. It would be a great day on 4chan when you guys get steamrolled.

>>53446460
But he doesn't have jewish owners. He owns himself

>>53446855
You had a good run.
>>53446885
Is that so? Is your country the richest and strongest in the world..oh wait that's mine.

>>53446855
Bush had a great relationship with Putin too. Things went well then

>>53447137
Well except if you're Georgian..

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>>53446095
If Donald Trump will be BANNED from the UK, how does the US do cooperation with Japan-UK alliance against China and North Korea?

>>53447189
No one cares about them, though.

>>53447090
No need to get so mad, my burger friend.
The fact is, a true democracy should have representants of the whole political spectrum. Left wings are annoying and, in general, dumb, but they are citizens of the US like you and should have representation.

>>53447209
>leader of the free world
>banned from the UK
yeah not gonna happen

>>53447209
nuke UK, make it the 51th state
problem solved

>>53446095
sanders is going to win. and everything will be free and the rich will pay for it all.

>>53447286
yeah sure
that worked out really well in all socialist countries

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>>53447286

>mfw some people actually believe that

>>53447285
>51th
>th
>fifty firth
>5
>1
>t
>h

ridiculous

>>53447243
>The fact is, a true democracy should have representants of the whole political spectrum.
No a true democracy should have representatives from the political spectrum of the people they represent. The American people are not, and have never been, particularly left wing. We are a nation of individualists who by and large have a complete and total distrust for government.

>>53447335
>>53447368
its true, he'll forgive all my student debts! and i can go to the hospital for free.

>>53447234
True. I don't even care about the state desu.

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>>53447427

>>53447243
>representants
>representANTS
>ANTS
ludicrious

>>53447384
All those SJWs and retards from colleges disagree with you.
I know that they are a minority and they are stupid, but thats all that a democracy is about
still, having only right wing parties might be slightly better than having only left wing ones because left wing governments tend to make your economy crash

>>53447427
>and i can go to the hospital for free.
*Like you could already if your lazy ass had bothered to fill out the medicaid paper work.

>>53446460

But he's his own jew lad

>>53447369
you try speaking another language perfectly, burgerstein

>>53446505
This.

Things have been going very very badly for their arguments lately, as many independent and right wing voters predicted they would. Hopefully this will put swing voters on the right side this election.

>>53447461
sometimes people say things that are ridiculous for comedic effect. some know it as satire. not everyone is trolling.

>>53447497
Eu já faço

>>53447481
>All those SJWs and retards from colleges disagree with you.
And they are welcome to run candidates. What they are not welcome to is having their candidates be put in government when the majority chooses someone else for the position.

Which is what always happens...because Americans aren't left wing.

>>53447497
He's stating that America already has 51 states

top kek
hillary will be the next president mark my words
it was all planned out over 20 years go

>>53447505
They are defending a group of people who believe the complete opposite of sjw ideologies just because they have a different skin color.

>>53447643
some people are just retarded, don't bother explaining it to him.

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>>53446095
yes

>>53447369

Fuck off Moron, learn another language perfectly then spout your bs tbqhwy

>>53447728
was today a snow day?

>>53447769

Wut?

>>53446095
Is it likely, if Trump is only polling 3% ahead for fucking Fox?

no

trump supporters are trailer trash that have never left their piece of shit flyover state.

Vote Hillary she's the best choice by far

>>53447863
trump won't win he's a meme candidate like sanders or that other old guy that ran last time.

>>53447863
Fox fucking hates Trump, dude.

>>53447863
A lot of Fox fucking hates Trump desu. But a lot of Democrats fucking hate Hillary..so who knows?

>>53446095
It's gonna be Jeb and it will be beautiful!

>>53446855
But think of the memes and don't be so selfish

>>53447922
I thought all media, literally 100%, hates trump

>>53446095
He won't win, don't listen to 4chan autists. The only people I've heard who say they support him say it in a joking manner. He will prob win the republican vote, much to the dismay of most republicans ironically, but he will never beat Hillary.

>>53448059
More or less. That's how I know the non-Americans posting ITT about >Fox know absolutely nothing about American politics or public opinion and can be disregarded.

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>>53446855
>that is a bad thing

So what are Trump's policies aside from the Wall and neighbourhood muslim watch?

>>53446855
With virtually every other candidate, praising North Korea and having Putin endorse you would be a death knell.
With Trump? The nature of his deranged base ensures what is toxic to others is fuel for him.

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>>53446394
if there is a bias its minimal. they are close as fuck and if the trend continues he will have the advantage

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>>53448081
Getting real sick of the fucking "he'll never beat Hillary meme." Democucks and the leftist media VASTLY overestimate her and her husband's popularity. She's not some polotical juggernaut, she's an old hag with a fuckton of baggage ripe for the picking.

>>53448176
reduce taxes
make america grat again

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>Our choices for president will be a sociopathic lying untrustworthy bitch and a racist loudmouth reality TV host

Just let the economy crash already so I can watch everything burn

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>>53448081

>>53446687
>unconstitutional

Laws don't apply to non-citizens

>>53448260
>let the economy crash so I can invest all my sweet money into quality stocks and be filthy rich

ftfy

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>>53446855
>Trump and Putin become bros
>US-Russia alliance
>mfw all the leftist butthurt

>>53446916
>tfw there was once a day when the great soviet couldn't invade us
>tfw they were pissed as fuck in 1945 because we kept Hitler alive for years
>tfw they couldn't do anything because we had a fucking fortress and were a proud and brave people
>tfw we're now a bunch of cucks and would get rekt in 1 day

>>53446453
are you fucking serious.

Can people be this fucking retarded.
>Poland has told me people can

>>53448260
Meh all our best presidents have been racist. I can live with that

i seriously hope not

that twat is going to cancel j1 visas

>>53446095
>Is señor Trump really going to win?
Yes

>Are we going to witness America being great again?
No

>>53448352
>mfw all the leftist butthurt
The Moderate Left might be upset. But the Far-Left Progressives would be delighted.
See: The Nation, Salon, Alternet, The Intercept, etc

∆
∆∆

>>53446596
>I think we are entering age of the rapid death of the left.
happens every few decades or so

>>53446687
Ask our current president how he feels about unconstitutional executive orders and policies

no he is not. this happens every 4 years - they release polls 3,6,12 months before the elections, and dumb people take them seriously. double so if foreigners.

He's not the type of leader the new right has been yearning for, quite the opposite

However he has some good positions. Problem is, he also has some deep flaws

Hopefully he will lose but inspire someone with very similar views.

>>53448285

That's not how it works...

>>53448897
Name his flaws comrade

>>53448989
he's orange
he failed clown college twice
he's not muslim

>>53448260
You also have a socialist cuck

>>53446712
We actually do have a commie party but the're a huge fucking joke.

>>53448989
He represents hollywood pop-culture and turbo-capitalism and materialism which are antithetical to rightist/reactionary thought

As a speaker, he's undisciplined and prone to gaffs, which makes him susceptible to making mistakes. You need someone who's straightline and doesn't give his opponents or the media ammunition.

His lifestyle is that of a rich liberal, not a rich (true) conservative. Which isn't surprising because up until recently he was pretty moderate and sometimes liberal.


He doesn't come across as a classy or cultured person, and frequently is caught not knowing important presidential things (his nuclear triad answer), facts about foreign countries (like asked about Iraq). He's got insider business-savvy but comes across as someone with the foreign affairs knowledge of a Wal-Mart scooterwhale.

He has the image problem of being a celebrity, so the left and those unfamiliar with him beyond memes use him as a punching bag, he's been the butt-end of jokes about his hair, weight, TV shows, gaffes etc. The right needs a leader who's got no weaknesses to make fun of, if you know what I mean

Note these are all right-wing criticisms. I like that he showed support for the Le Pens but I think they much more represent the right kind of leaders. I despise Hillary beyond words though, I'm just providing legit critiques of Trump

>>53449328
>capitalism is antithetical to right-wing thought

Is the right wing not what I thought it was?

>>53449480
It's complicated but I meant the new reactionary right, not the mainstream GOP American conservatism. In the USA "liberal" means socialist and "Conservative" means capitalist.

The new right, in Europe and with some adherents in the new world, is generally anti-materialistic or want a third way beyond capitalism and socialism. Capitalism to us represents cultural destruction, coca-cola, shitty pop-culture, abusive workplaces, greedy companies who want open borders. Mainstream socialism fails to be an alternative as its taken over by DUDE WEED LMAO sjws and the like.

So right wing in this new context is traditionalism and modesty, while neoliberal Republican conservatism celebrates excess and consumption

>>53448953
Fuck off Swedecuck

The only people who have to worry about "unconstitutionality" from Trump are illegals, who've already broken the law

>>53449883

You're still bound by your constitution. Or does the second amendment mean nothing to you?

>>53449825
>So right wing in this new context is traditionalism and modesty

So, social conservatism. You're saying that Trump isn't socially conservative enough, with regards to his personal life. I would respond to that by noting that social conservatives are a lot more concerned with the several million illegal immigrants in the United States right now, and ever encroaching political correctness—both of which Trump has made a point of opposing— than they are with 'modesty'.

>>53449883
>All illegals are deported
>No one left to grow and pick all our food

>>53449939
The United States Constitution does not prevent the U.S. government from deporting illegal migrants.

>>53449986
>All illegals are deported
Sorry bud aint happening.
They are too ingrained in our society to kick them out.
A harsh truth.

>>53449986
Exactly how deluded are you? Do you think Nebraska and Kansas are overflowing with Mexicans? The agricultural industry in the U.S. is not dependent on illegal migrants to any remote extent.

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Welp Trump killed the Republican party a decade or so early.
So there is that.

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>>53449939
>let me tell you about your Constitution

Their very presence here is a crime. What more due process is there? Instead of sending them back immediately our government catches them and releases them into America.and says "blah blah blah here's your court date show up please" and they never do.

>>53450220
So why do we complain about them taking all the fruit picking jobs?

>>53449939
People who are here illegally have no rights under the Constitution, and every nation is entitled to secure its borders under national security

>>53450173
Exactly my point. You have to be a seriously delusional stormfag to think it's possible to remove all the illegals, and even if it was then we would all starve. Too bad Trump supporters are too stupid to think beyond their hatred of brown people.

>>53449986
Tough luck California.

>>53450294
>before mexcriments america was a nation of entirely helpless starving anorexic people

>>53450266
You don't. Illegal migrants do not take jobs exclusive to orange harvesting or whatever the fuck your media has told you.

>>53450278
>People who are here illegally have no rights under the Constitution

That isn't true. Illegal migrants do indeed have rights under the Constitution, but the right not to be deported isn't one of them. If you are not a legal resident of the United States, there is absolutely nothing preventing the U.S. government from deporting you.

>>53450294
Why don't these fuckers hire Americans to pick their fruits instead of foreigners who they pay peanuts? Why is this allowed?

>>53450278
>>53450237
Sooo why aint they been kicked out yet?
A guy like Trump is just gonna waltz in and kick them all out right?

>>53450395
>Why is it allowed for employers to hire illegal migrants and pay them below the minimum wage?

It isn't legal, it just isn't enforced because enforcing the law is racist.

>>53450379
Then what jobs do they take?
Busboys and chefs at my local ihop?
Well them and black males with criminal records.
Atleast the one I go to.

>>53450294
>we would all starve just because illegals are gone
>liberals genuinely believe this

>>53447495

good quote

>>53450395
>Implying people will want to pay whiny college kids 9 bucks am hour to pick vegetables and fruit when they can get illegal aliens to do it faster and better for substantially less pay

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>>53446394
>he trusts CNN NBC or MNSBC polls

>>53450449
>Then what jobs do they take?

Any job they can get.

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>>53446687
>let's not pretend he's going to make some huge changes

>>53450395
American workers are union sissies who expect high wages. Do you hate the free market or something?

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>>53447209
>caring about NATO at this point
Trump is liked by South Korea and Japan for sticking it to the chinks. While Obama continues to make a fool of himself in Europe and the Middle East, Trump will keep the Chinese from overreaching in the Pacific. You're welcome /ASEAN/

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>>53449985
The two are very related though. There's a big stigma against corporate giants, wall-street insiders. Trump still represents the materialism and shallow consumerism of the nouveau riche, preventing him from being a truly ideal candidate.

Everytime I see his thumbnail in a news article link I think "oh no, he's shot himself in the foot now hasn't he".

My points about his lifestyle and job still stand though. It is good to deport the illegals, but he still has glaring flaws. I do wish a much better candidate were in his place

>>53450465
Or they could just mechanize the harvesting process, which has already been done in every agricultural industry everywhere in the Western world except for the Sunbelt.

Deporting every illegal from the United States would kill no one, and probably wouldn't even lower production by any significant amount (especially in the long term). Oranges would probably become slightly more expensive, though.

>fox news poll
those numbers come frlm right wingers desu

>>53450506
I guess service based jobs mainly.
I live in the midwest, indiana.
Can't imagine the amount of Hispanics working at places like Ihop and the like.
But they can't all be illegal right?

>>53450540
If you read his book you should now Trump asks for 4 times the amount of what he wants and then negotiates to what he was trying to get all along.
This whole wall and banning all muslims business is just tough talk

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My opinions have shifted dramatically with the current climate

Trump beats Clinton, but loses narrowly to Sanders

I'm a right leaning moderate

This will be a gloriously vicious Presidential year

>>53450173
>>53450294
>They are too ingrained in our society to kick them out.
they don't even speakie english
fucking kikes

>>53450683
Because CNN NBC and MSNBC are so unbiased, amirite?

>>53448427
Not him, but I too would rather have Trump than Hillary.

>>53446095
Could you cite or post a source for the data in this picture>

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>>53450746
>Calls himself right wing
>likes Sanders

>>53448427

Clinton is the American Merkel

you figure out the rest

she's the worst of Republican and Democrat worlds essentially, Trump talks big but at least he has the interests of this country at #1

>>53446687
Then it might be time to change the constitution. there's no reason to treat an amendable document like it's scripture.

>>53450763
Fox hates trump too. Some of the opinion-based shows praise him but most of the coverage is negative or lukewarm at best.

>>53448420
What happened? I thought you guys at least had some nice gripens to hold the tide back.

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>>53448427
>People are retarded for not being leftists
This arguement is Facebook tier levels of idiocy.

>>53450818

I don't really like him. I respect him. I don't respect Clinton. Current polls have Trump closing the gap in an election vs. Clinton but still getting beaten by Sanders handily, I'm guessing he'd galvanize the youth and unioners enough to come out for him.

Really depends though, so many volatile factors coming into the mix recently.

I think Sanders could be a potential disaster for this country even if he means right.

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>>53448427
>not being leftist is retarded
>seriously voting for Hillary
>a candidate that has said she admires Merkel

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>>53450891
>gets beaten by Sanders handily
>Sanders is stuck at 27% of democratic vote


Pic related. Sanders supports this for February. He is a literal cückold.

>>53450756
They are too ingrained even without speaking english. Amazing I know. This issue is a lot more complicated. than you think.
If we truly wanted them out, They would be out believe me.
Trump getting elected aint gonna change things.

>>53450891
>Sanders
Road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Not like they would let him implement his ideas anyway.

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>>53449328
>comes across as someone with the foreign affairs knowledge of a Wal-Mart scooterwhale.
David Cameron?

>>53450845
Trump only cares about one thing: Trump. He's switched positions multiple times in the past and is a hypocrite (Ex: Saying he'll deport all illegals while he's used illegal workers in the past, claiming to be pro-2nd amendment while his buildings are all gun free zones). You have to be a stupid goy to not see that he's doing all this so he can get more famous by showing off how much of daddy's money he has. If he wins the election it'll be by pure luck, but even if he wins he won't get shit done and we'll just have another 4 years where nothing changes.

>>53447481
>minority
Depends what your standards are for SJW-ism. By /in/ or /pol/ standards it's most people in the USA so.
>stupid
Factually wrong. They aren't stupid, maybe misguided or plain wrong, but not stupid disagreeing with you =/= stupidity

>>53451062

>where nothing changes

That may actually be the best case scenario as it stands.

He's currently doing the only thing that can get a celebrity businessman like him elected to the highest office in the country.

I'll be his tone shifts after he gets the nomination and he can start appealing to centrists.

>>53450978
It will be glorious, although she'll try to deflect any criticism by claiming sexism.

>>53450978
Oh god if those debates happen it will be the biggest shit flinging affair of the year.
I weep for the day where debates like the Nixon-Kennedy used subtle scheming.
>>53451062
>we'll just have another 4 years where nothing changes.
Just like obama I guess. heh

>>53451131
>I'll be his tone shifts after he gets the nomination and he can start appealing to centrists.
Exactly.
He be talking like the Wall was never even a thing
Oh I cry for /pol/

>>53451225
The Nixon/Kennedy debates were awful. Television ruined political debating in this country.

>Am I gonna choose the Republican whose gonna blast me in the ass Or am I gonna choose the Democrat whose gonna blast me in the ass?

>>53446855
>Rubin

>>53451297
Yeah it was a bit of sarcasm on my part.
But compared to the inevitable Clinton-Trump debare it'll look like the old days of Lincoln and Douglas.

>>53450818
Presidents are very weak on domestic policy (and useless without majorities), but have strength in foreign policy

Sanders and fantastic foreign policy ideals in line with true rightist (and leftist) principals. He's a proponent of neutrality and anti-intervention, and he is opposed to TTIP and TPP. Any rightist knows those are the most important things in the next 8 years.

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>>53451369
Yup. At least Trudeau is a pretty boy.
lucky you.

>>53451494
Anyone is better than Harper

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>>53451369
based

>>53447209
He's not getting banned, it's a meme by butthurt left-wings. They talked about it in a sub-house that has zero power like they were required to and then stopped talking about it.

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>>53451524
Yup. I like Trudeau. I know we like to meme here but Trudeau is a fresh faced optimist who truly believes he is doing good.
I can't wait until he see's the world for what it is and breaks.
Or will he?

>>53451427
>Update
Definitely. They'll be the saddest and most hilarious moments in American media history.

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>>53451590
>and then stopped talking about it.
I wonder why

>>53446687
Name one thing he has proposed that would be unconstitutional

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Bernie 2016
Snowden 2024

If Trump becomes president how long until America is great again? I assume it takes some time for what he does to take effect in such a huge cunt.

>>53446095
General election polls are meaningless at this point, doesn't matter if they say Trump or Sanders or Clinton or Cruz or whoever else is ahead. The only polls that matter right now are state-by-state primary polls.

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>>53452060
>Snowden 2024
That would be pretty cool

>>53452022
Domestic internment camps.

>>53451480
>He's a proponent of neutrality and anti-intervention

Which is stupid, because it kills our global influence and would harm us in the long run.

>>53452064
He's got a republican congress. He could pretty much do as he pleased.

>>53452268
There is a very real chance the Senate could flip.

>>53451719
because there other 64,000,000 people in the country know why banning a presidential candidate is a retarded idea

more over tories wouldn't ban a billionaire businessmen away

>>53451030
How about black people try not talking through a two hour movie?
Seriously though ehat if we really did that like including at work? Just white people don't contribute to business, politics, law enforcement, medicine, the military, etc. for 72 hours. I think non-whites would have a great time.

>>53452229
For illegals.

>>53452308
Maybe if you can get enough people out to vote during midterms, sure.

>>53446596
It's just the natural cycle. Grass is always greener, etc.

>>53447384
Prior to the red scare on the twenties the left was very strong in the USA

>>53452724

Doesn't help that they're clinging to the sinking "muh poor immigrants" ship

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>>53446095
Trump has already won--the election is just a formality at this point

>>53452888

The left was very different back then, very nationalistic and pro-citizen

shit, you could even make the argument that Nazi Germany was actually a radically leftist government

what happened?

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>>53446095
Whatever happens, I think we're going to witness America being really, really stupid...
AGAIN.

>>53453080

>thinking Trump's strategic rhetoric is indicative of his intelligence or ability

this was the only way he could break through the establishment stranglehold and get a nom

>>53453080
>Trump stupid

You generally don't become worth 8 billion being stupid.

>inb4 daddy's money

1 million dollars is peanuts in the business world.

I can't wait till all these baby boomers die out and the US stops exporting right wing extremism to the rest of the world.

>>53453118
So he's going to risk the senate and house of representatives turning against him in upcoming elections because he broke so many of his promises?
What a dumbass.

>>53453158
His money doesn't suddenly make his plans great.

>>53448427
>anybody who disagrees with me is retarded
lol, and left-wingers wonder why they have such a hard time being taken seriously

On top of that they accuse OTHERS of being "full of fallacious propaganda".

>>53453211
How's it going over there in Cuckland?

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>>53446095
If he makes it past the primaries, I'll buy each and every one of you grey market Ferraris.

Which I can do because my dad's a fucking general.

But if he doesn't make it as the GOP nominee, you all have to work in our labor camps for a month.

>>53447567
Nice google translate, faggot.

>>53453456
Better than here.

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>>53453456
seems like your country is cucked by old people.

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A fox news poll can't tell us, I'll explain why.

People that vote on those online polls are the most supportive of the person they're voting for, and sometimes vote multiple times.
Shills also vote on the poll.

Just gotta wait for the general election.

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>>53453888
I'll take that bet.

Labor camp can't be any worse than teaching English.

>>53455379
That's not the kind of polling people are talking about. It's phone polls done using statistics, not some jackshit online voting.

>>53446983
jews will kill him

>>53446095
Donald Trump is the redneck, NRA member, white shithead supremacist and baptists with firearms candidate. Obviously none of those groups will never give the vote to a black man and two spics who are candidates.

>>53449328
yeah. he's politically incorrect.
people like his bluntness. you don't seem stupid so I don't suppose it's hard for you to see that.

I personally like his attitude. I think the US needs someone like that since he reflects the country a lot better.

>>53446095
what are the latest figures?

>>53448260
>sociopathic lying untrustworthy bitch
all bad

>racist loudmoth
Not bad.
>reality TV host
Pretty shit.

So far, Trump has more than 0 positives, as opposed to Hillary's 0 positives.

Objectively Trump is better.

Are you ready for America to be great again, hombre?

>>53457188
His bluntless has absolutely done wonders, it's kicked the door down to allow other politically correct politicians in. He's a very flawed candidate, but I have high hopes that he's pioneered for an even better one with similar positions to take his place

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>>53446855
It's happeniiiiiiing.
Is the world ready for the one true Union of Liberators?

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>>53452229

We've consistently grabbed illegal immigrants and and deported them. Unless you're talking about something else, in which case. . ?

>>53453211
>and the US stops exporting right wing extremism to the rest of the world.

You do realize that we've been exporting left wing SJW extremism half the time as well, right? Do you really want us to go full Sweden?