>mfw Argies are pro-US and we are anti-US now NOOOOO, we should

>>51125495
Why are you anti-US?

>>51125590
because we have been electing leftists and nationalists for 16 years, that reject free trade with the US and Argentina has always been following us

>>51125643
Now that Argentina is officially better than you at soccer are they breaking free from your lead?

>>51125700
>Argentina is officially better than you at soccer
wut, we still 5 world cups and they only got 2

>>51125495
what is the point of being anti-US

that's pretty dumb to be quite honest

i mean what is the argument

>>51127111
Well if you live in a poor country and you're pro us, you get keked and U.S. corporations now control your government. If you live in a poor country and you're anti US you get BTFO. Moral of the study don't get born in shit countries.

>>51125643
So basically Argentina has grown up and is on track to become a functional economy again?

>>51127344
Seems to be the case, unfortunately, although if I were Argentinian I think I'd rather follow in Chile's footsteps than Brazil's.

Based argentina choosing prosperity and freedom over being a third world shithole

>>51127344
Looking at the average government of poor countries I think I would let US corporations give it a shot.

>>51125738
>wut, we still 5 world cups and they only got 2
>I was good at some point in history
Deal with it, right now 2015, we are your daddys.

>>51127385
functional economy?

is that the new word for slavery

>>51127736
They're only there to escape regulations. It's the reasons sweatshops exists. They're not there to help the country.

>>51125495
The moral of the story is that you should stop electing leftists, get a functional economy and regulations so the American Corperations don't kek the shit out of you when you go pro-US, and then go pro-US.

>>51127845
Capitalistic slavery is not so bad

>>51127344
worked for Japan and south Korea, don't see what the big fear over the US is

>>51125590

OP is a fucking gommie, just ignore him

You should both be pro-US. There's more than enough love here to go around.

Maybe your country wouldn't be such a shithole if you stopped electing anti-American commies.

>>51125738

It's like saying that Britain is stronger than the US because they once had a huge empire and we've never held that much territory.

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>>51125495
>hates the us
>has probably been using this site for years
Hypocrite

>>51127794
Brasil decime que se siente etc etc

>>51125590
"Anti-US" isn't really the right term. We're more like neutral who often go against USA's wills. Our relations got very affected after all the NSA spying Brazil/the rest of the world scandal happened, but we've been getting closer again.

Brazil is not anti-USA. Our "commies" are pretty moderate.
We just don't suck their dick like we used to

>>51128587
Brazil is the clown of the world. Government goes BRAZIL STRONK! and the rest of the world laughs at Brazil.

>>51128189
Japan and South Korea aren't 3rd world countries that's the difference.

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>>51128587
>w-we're not gommies ;_;

>>51128626
>Government goes BRAZIL STRONK!
Huh, no they don't. You can criticize them for a lot of things but not this. We are mostly isolated or neutral and the current government don't really give a shit about external policy.

I have a wild theory: Brazil's government isn't to blame for their mess of a country, it's Brazilians themselves. Thoughts?

>>51128669
Compared to the likes of Venezuela and Cuba, we really aren't. Yet...

>>51127845
better than communist slavery

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>>51128763
>USA stronk! Gib freedoms pls ;_;
No, commie

>>51127845
I'd rather be able to choose my slaver than to be a slave to the government and the unproductive political elite.

>>51128755
the same could be said to any country, the problem is what you define as mess. And it's probably how different we are from the US

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>>51125495
The dream is dead. Its a sad evening for LatinAmerican continentalism.

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>>51125495
Poor of south america

>>51129473
>Poor of south america
>t. aztlan

>>51128505
Can we still be friends?

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>>51129518
>first cu.cked by videla
>later by brits in falklands
what is next?

>>51129011

arguing with americans is painful, its like you plaster your ignorance all over and are somehow proud of it. the monkey is right, br is a moderate leftism right now. for fucks sake your opinion isnt valid anymore shut the fuck up.

>>51127111


> that's pretty dumb to be quite honest

> i mean what is the argument
another american imbecile, you come in 12 packs

>>51129518
why do you argies always call mexican posters chicanos?

>>51129472
i miss Nestor soooo much, it hurts.

>>51129605
es un meme autista de ellos

>>51129473
I don't know about the rest of Latin America, but the Brazilian one is utter bullshit. It has nothing to do with what actually happened in the coup of 1964.

>>51129641
tell me more Hue bro

>>51129592
we should have kept the canal

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>>51129652
>he posts that image all the time
>has not bothered to google about it

this is modern leftism is so bad

BRASIIIIIIIIIIL

>>51129641

that map is shit. its full of irrelevnat stuff and misses the more important things.

>>51127845
being a commie will get you killed in mexihell, ready your head

>>51129472
He made the great mistake of letting the braindead of CFK running for president instead of going for another term or impulsing another potential candidate.

CFK is the main reason why they lost Baires after 20 years and have just lost to MACRI.

>losing to Macri
literally the worst government of the century

>>51127736
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster

>>51129738
Here we have narcos btw

>>51129799
>CFK is the main reason why they lost Baires after 20 years and have just lost to MACRI.

Nah, Anibal did that.

Nestor was a goat tier politician, his death ruined everything.

>>51129710
Si busque en google, ptm sudamerica era un infierno cuando todo eso ocurrio

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>>51129652
Goulart was a drunkard who wasn't even elected into office. People were literally going to the streets begging the military to stage a coup. It had nothing to do with any CIA propaganda and I have no idea where that came from. Even my leftist history teachers didn't mention it.

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>>51130143
>kick an asshole who do not please the country......have another asshole in the power later

>>51129652
it isn't 2bh, it's right on, Goulart suffered a coup because he wanted to tax American multinationals to keep their funds here, also he passed tons of reforms including agrarian reform that made him lost some credibility with the elites.
>>51130143
wtf he was righteously elected m8 wtf are you saying
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo%C3%A3o_Goulart

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>>51130177
The first guy wasn't really an asshole. He did some pretty good things and wasn't violent. He actually wanted to give the power back to the people, but he unfortunately died too soon. After that came the real assholes.

>>51128732
>Prosub
>Peacekeeping in Haiti
>cancelling visit to USA after the spy scandal
>not allowing UK ship to dock at Rio port
>not extraditing the Italian terrorist Cesare Battisti

Brazil is like that autistic kid who starts putting up an act of being tough to try to earn respect of the big guys.

>>51128587
Most Americans would see 'moderate communists' as an oxymoron.

If you've ever argued with hyper-capitalists the slightest form of Socialism is like flying planes into the twin towers.

I like liberty, freedom and the free market as much as the next guy, but there is plenty of good socialism. Having a government that ensures most people can eat, go to school, and live with actual liberty and freedom as opposed to living in a dystopian everyone-fend-for-themselves, you-can't-regulate-me-blood-sucking-leaches, if-you-want-my-money-get-it-from-the-barrle-of-my-firearm nightmare. You take capitalism far enough and you have anarchy, and if you take socialism far enough and you have totalitarianism. You need a good portion of both.

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>>51130311
yeah, he didn't even try to undermine our sovereignty to a foreign power like the US

>>51130230
He wasn't elected president, I mean. He was the vice-president and no one expected him to do anything.

>>51125495
>argies are pro-us
I thought they still had that crazy commie lady in charge?

>>51130389
He was elected as vice-president and got more votes than Jucelino m8. Back then there was elections to both president and vice-president. He was really popular with everyone except the top strata

>>51130382
I think the situation in Latin America is different. They just have less money, and while populism may be all well and good, they need to consider the fact that sometimes you just have to leave some poor people in the dust while you develop your economy enough to eventually be able to support a decent safety net and other public services.

>>51130382
Vice-versa is true of radical socialists btw.

It seems extremist of all stripes are just fucking idiots.

>>51130388
No, he didn't. Wanting better realtions with the US isn't undermining sovereignty. What did he do, exactly? Shook Lyndon B. Johnson's hand? I doubt it even got that close.

>>51130428
All right, but again: he wasn't elected president. That is all I am saying. No one voted for him to be the president. Did he have legitimacy? Yes, but not much.

>>51130536
he was voted 2 times as a vice-president and one time got more votes than fucking Juscelino m8 which was the president, people wanted him that much that voted for him even when Janio, which was the opposition, won the election. He was pretty legitimate, more than even fucking Dilma right now or the vice-president right now
>>51130469
>Wanting better realtions with the US isn't undermining sovereignty.
If they or we needed better relations they wouldn't have staged coup over a democratically elected president (or vice-president m8). We were a puppet government for the American Multinationals, to the point that all worker's unions were outlawed and the minimum paycheck became lower than ever. That time we were simply a country to serve to the US interests, that was there was this whole commie-chasing too.

>>51125495
>Macri
>Not the least leftard amongs leftards