ITT: things that made you realize you weren't going to make it.

No passion for anything.

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>>3103930

>>3103947
>tfw I was on /ic/ when this was made
>TWENTY FUCKING FIFTEEN
That's how I know I wont make it.

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>>3103947
>I miss Teal

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>>3103961
As much as we fight and argue with each other I often wonder about those who no longer post here anymore. What if they actually made it and really left this place for good.

>>3103965
He'll remember us, we'll keep waiting.

I'm too lazy. I call it a good day if I work for an hour, two hour or more days are rare.

>drawing for a couple hours every day cause it's summer
>I'm still shit but feeling good about myself
>keep grinding away and putting in my hours
>hmmm I think maybe I'm feeling a little too good about myself
>post one of my better pieces on /ic/
>"nice"
>I start to feel a little too confident
>post some random sketches here
>no replies
>post a 30 minute warm up study that I completely failed at
>get roasted alive with no actual advice
>ask for legit advice
>get condescendingly told I'm shit and ngmi
>for some reason I really feel like a piece of shit afterwards
>lose all confidence in my art
>spiral into depression
>can barely put in an hour a day now
>hate everything I draw
Idk why I do this to myself. I guess to kinda reset? Whenever I feel too good about my art I post it on here and lose all confidence in myself. I don't think I'm gonna make it atm. I drew for like 20 minutes today.

>>3103961
I've been here since 2012 and am still /beg/ tier.

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>>3104015
P-post your work?

>>3103932
Fuck, don't remind me. Why can't I fucking enjoy something for once?

>>3104026
Fuck is that review brah? Why is he crying?

>>3104029
This, wtf is going on with our lil review brah?

Ic feels a lot like /r/incels

>>3104026
I'm too embarrassed.
I'm probably on the higher side of /beg/, but still definitely /beg/.

>>3104042
fuck off normie cuck, reeeeee, etc...Why are you even here?

Just the realization that imagination and concepts in your mind will never be what reality is and in this way, you can never truly create what you have envisioned in your mind, like an image.
But that doesn't only go for a drawing, but anything else. Also, you will never be what you wanted, because what you want consits of notions that are taken from your imagination, your creative interpretation of mere particles of reality.
So, to follow a dream, is not to try and become your imagination, as this can not be done, but to give a sense of direction in a life, of which we truly know nothing about.
Again, this applies to everything and everyone, everybody has to constantly adjust their imagination to additional perception of reality, which they have the chance to take in every day.
If you get this new intake, but either ignore it, or distort it (negatively or positively - again this is merely an interpretation od reality), you may be miserable or find yourself in a deadlock, but if you adjust your ambitions to what you can really perceive, you may go on.
It is an everyday, continual process, continuously we have to part from dreams that don't match up to what reality can be, and though this is unavoidable and has to be done to navigate though reality, we remember a lot of these dreams fondly, which is why it often hurts. So know that everyone carries thousands of broken dreams around with them, but thousands of new ones are also born every day, and they are instruments to guide us to places we can't and could never imagine.

>>3104057
Can you just sum that up in a shorter and better constructed paragraph?

>>3104060
'Making it' is an illusion and as such, you can't.
Likewise, you naturally can't reach standards set upon by yourself or others, that are unrealistic.
You can do great stuff, but it will never be what you imagined.

>>3104047
I started lurking after finding the art book thread a few weeks ago. I think the no BS sugarcoating criticism is a refreshing attitude here vs other places I see online for art which seem to baby people too much. However, the average anon seems to be quite young, pathetically edgy, and more than a little toxic about the whole talent vs skill divide. I probably won't spend much time here after a few more weeks of lurking and commenting occasionally.

The inability to finish anything due to large amounts of self hatred because even as I'm drawing I can tell it looks like shit.

>>3104071
Damn, I just had some insight about that. How do I get over that anon? That I'll never be able to match up to my imagination? It makes me not even want to put a pencil to paper because I don't know what will come out. It'll definitely be different from my imagination and I don't know if I want to know what it is.

I enjoy drawing too much and want to do it all the time. I'm studying to do concept art, but I don't think I'll be able to handle a real job professionally and with a business mindset.

>>3104011
It sounds more like your bridging the dunning kruger valley by listening to others. you're happy with your art, but recognize that if you were to look at it objectively as someone else it isnt anything special, so you post it to one of the few places where people are actually honest. They shit on it which reaffirms what you already know, you take a little time to gain your confidence back, then repeat the cycle. you're on the path to improvement

Go back to r9k.

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>>3104087
not him, but I go back and look at art I thought was amazing back in elementary and middle school. some of it stills holds up, but most of It sucks. Knowing that, I recognize that if I were to go back in time and show my younger self what I was capable of now, Im twice the artist I ever wanted to be. So even though you will probably never be satisfied with your work because your taste improves faster than your skills, your making your younger self proud with your small improvements.

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>Didn't start playing piano when I was 3
FOR
FUCK'S
sake.
It hurts so much.

>>3104087
I have struggled with this for the longest time, I still am.
For now, I try to enjoy my imagination as a thing in itself and take it as a source of inspiration for actual drawing.
I try to make my peace with drawing not being the naive concept of directly putting your imagination through your hand and pencil on a canvas.
Plus, it makes it exciting in a way, since you will never know what actually will come out.
Yeah, it will often be disappointing, but that's just a part of the game, and if you hold it in out of fear that it may be bad, you're just procrastinating,
because getting the bad out and thinking critically about it is the way to improve. And there are pleasant surprises as well. ("I actually drew that?")
And it helps to think that this struggle is what everyone faces, no matter their profession, because ambition is often born from naive and romantiscized concepts.
Also, think how blurry your imagination actually is. Seeing an actual image is a different experience, it could'nt directly translate.

>>3104202
>>3104087
>>3104071
Watch. This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sHCQWjTrJ8

>>3103956
How do I search for more of these?

>>3103965
>>3103979
He posted here a few weeks ago, in one of those 'draw this in your style' threads

I have no mental eye.

>>3103930
Can't draw

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>>3104015
>since 201
>>3104043
>on the higher side of /beg/
This is where I currently am. I have been here since 2015, and I expect to leave beg by 2020. My hope is not crushed, but I am buckling in for a really long run.

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>>3104260
F-fuck.

>>3104260
>get them out as fast as possible
>yfw can't execute them because too low skill
>forever gonna have brain crack

>>3103947


How did I missed that in 2015?
lol

>>3104076
>Confusing no sugarcoating with condescendings pricks asking for your block

No one cncs here and if they do it's rare. Just people trying to make themselves feel better about their shit art by mocking someone else's art.

>>3104924
Asking for your blog*

fuck

>>3103930
>too autistic to into gesture

>>3103942
Lol, fuck what a waste of time. If anything, he got worse

>>3104939
>when anon's eyes are so bad he can't even tell someone got better
How do you live with your own art? Oh right, you don't.

>>3103945
This is based on a misconception. No the crabs couldn't fucking escape and they only appear to pull eachother down because they are fucking stupid bugs wriggling around in a bucket. If you couldn't tell, yes I am mad.

>>3104076
Pretty much this. To be fair the art books that /ic/ recommends are also recommended elsewhere so if you have the means to buy them, you aren't missing out much by not being here.

There are exceptions when you discover a rare foreign book that nobody has fucking heard of and it's worth the insane shipping charges. But hey.

>>3104260
That guy just made my Friday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9RN-Uf1rBY

Here is a different perspective on the topic. It's Friday so fuck it:

Some of the negativity on /ic/ is why I started drawing in the first place. I had a desire early on to learn computer graphics and it mutated into wanting to get better at drawing and just learning how is it that illustrators and concept artists go about their job. How the fuck do they draw and render this beautiful, imaginative art?

I agree with the sentiment here that we do have wild imaginations that prove to be difficult to achieve in reality.

But do you let that stop you, or do you let the imagination inspire you to see what you can do?

Even though it took me an awful long time to come around to the fact that I wanted to do drawing beyond just stick figures, I consider it a blessing. I am already in a well-established career at this point and if I diverged early on to pursue art, things could be far different for me and I may not be in the comfortable situation that I am in today (high paying jobs afford you many things).

I think for anyone here that is struggling to even begin, you need to develop a work ethic through repetition until the act of sitting down to work doesn't feel like a chore anymore. And it's a habit that must be developed. War of Art is a good read on this and it mirrors a lot of my experiences early on.

Having said all that, this thread is a shitpost and if you aren't already reporting and hiding it, you really ought to.

>>3103930
wrist problems resulting from computer use / programming job

eye problems from computer job

watching all my artwork slowly rot as i lose interest

realizing that i dont have the time to put in the effort that i really want to because of corporate waveslave job

realizing that im too anxious and annoyed by other humans to enter any kind of 'art community' even if i did get prolific/better/ready to showcase/sell anything

just...what's the point ?
okay, so i can express myself with art
but then i just don't know how to feel about all these random paintings and sad doodles. it is very depressing. there's just no way i could buckle down and start on the discipline to get out of that zone (the depression only zone) to start doing studies again. Every time i do, it's great and i learn a lot. but i just... ive just stopped. im so attached to my safe place ( the computer ). so scared of being terrible. I remember when it was enjoyable, damn, whath appened to that?

maybe i need a new medium or something i dont know. Fuck.

>>3104076
same, too much shitslinging and i dont wanna get targeted

on the other hand, i really do think harder about some of my aesthetic choices lmao so its a balance i support

>>3104995
balance i suppose* not support. ugh

>>3104057
This kinda made me feel better, thanks...

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I know

>>3103930
Looking and comparing my 2017 best work and my 2014 best work

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>>3106013
>tfw plateaued in my first year
Significant improvement during 2014, and that was before finding out about fundamentals. 3 years after and I haven't improved much even with fundies; it's just the same old shit but polished.

>>3104180
>Had a chance to play violin in public school.
>Teacher said I had promise
>Dicked around every class cause I was a dumb kid.

Fuck me, I wish I could punch 11 year old me in the mouth for not taking that shit seriously.

>>3104260
This is also a cool similar video. Brain Crack / Idea Debt is such a fucking heavy subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POFXGhA0AoY

>>3104274
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/S3000981#p3006975
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/S2983654#p2983764

Whoa no kidding, he actually posted a couple of times recently

>>3106095
To be fair, classes suck, playing an instrument doesn't.

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>>3103930
I applied for a very bad job,more or less just for fun.
They rejected me without interview.

I feel very disturbed now.

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>>3103930

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>>3104976
There are different kinds of people. Negativity and challenge motivates me most. Positive attitudes and feelings of accomplishment depress me.

I feel that our school system is geared towards positive feels which made it hard for me to take it seriously. I did well at uni, mostly because I started to isolate myself after the first year.

Makes me wonder how many people are left behind, because some pedagogic programme told teachers to encourage people more. Maybe telling him "you'll never gonna make it!" would have started their stubborn brain out of spite.

>>3106937
>would have started their stubborn brain out of spite.
No. See Russian education.

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>>3103930
>tfw I made it

I have talent, but I made it with ease. Feels good.

>>3106943
this is very pretty.

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LIVE

FROM THE INZANE AZYLUM

ITZ ZUNDAY NIGHT /IC/ !!!

>>3106943
Why're you posting something over a year old?

>>3106940
Worked for me.

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i am not an /ic/ fag i was kinda curios how you guys are doing here
anyways
>i sat there alone in my room i thought i could shit post on /b/
>so i did
>now i need a stupid picture for the post to be complete
>i took an old drawing i did in about 30 minutes
>i was called a fag for what the "topic" of my thread was
>after dozens of post someone randomly said he kinda liked my picture and asked for more
>wtf.jpg
>someone actually likes my picture i always thought noone would like them
>i got really excited
>posted the other drawings i found on my computer
>i got complimented on /b/
now i feel so much better about my drawings and i spent more time drawing since then

probably isn't very fitting hello /ic/

I'm not motivated enough.

That being said I'm still painting for fun so if I don't make then eh, it's not the end of the world.

>>3106937
NGMI as delivered by /ic/ isn't always bad. It really depends on whether you're okay with being terrible now and putting in the effort to improve, or if you're paralyzed by seeing other people younger than you move right past you.

One other thing is that as you grow older, the kind of activities and hobbies you end up having will leave you outnumbered by younger generation, and you can see them visibly get better at it.

Having an actual negative attitude would ripple through society in unforeseen ways. Would it be better or worse to have society believe they aren't competent enough and to see what comes out of that, than to opt for allowing them the benefit of the doubt that maybe they have what it takes.

My knee jerk reaction leads me to believe that people would eventually normalize to that kind of attitude and do whatever they want to - though this might be an optimistic outlook.

Some positivity-as-negativity is spun regularly in the guise of "you'll never make it if you don't do ____". Typically this is delivered when it's clear the person is lazy, or clumsy or whatever. But it leaves the door open for the person to still have a chance.

>>3106940
>No. See Russian education.
Mind explaining - are they having an educational crisis?

I haven't drawn in 2 years.

>>3106986
your drawing isn't very good though

>>3103930
>Post what made you realize you'll never be as good as you want.

There are people like Karl Kopinski and Riccardo Federici to always remind me of that.

>>3103930
>art school cost way more than my family could afford
>got good scholarship to local university
>tried doing some commissions and had no fun with them
>learned from my older art friend that getting a decent job as in art is difficult and pays little
>realized I could just keep enjoying art as a hobby while working in another field to sustain myself

feels good man

I'm so fucking tired of all the artists I like being younger than me! Where the fuck did my life go so wrong!?

>>3109799
It went wrong when you got tired of all other artists you like being younger than you.

>>3109809
Life sucks.

>>3103930
I haven't hit that point yet, but I'm still probably in the early stages of art considering what I create is akin to what you'd find on the average teen's DA page
but my desire to create my own quality content drives me, and I can't wait until I'm able to get a tablet and move to digital, because I just don't like traditional all that much

>>3104265
http://imgur.com/gallery/4p1hn

>>3103930
>finish a piece
>very proud of it and think it looks perfect
>show it to someone else
>they immediately point out a huge glaring flaw that you never noticed

>>3103930
but what if you are as good as you want but you need to be way better for anyone to appreciate your art. it's annoying

That I have to do a huge slog through a bunch of fundamentals that will only be tangentially related to what I actually want to be doing.

>>3103930
Listen up cokcsucker I will do what the fuck I want = drawing. Don't do shit you hate to get something you like. Learn to enjoy life, and hard work. If I wanna get good I'm gonna work hard as shit to get where I want and I won't stop to think that I may not Get there, because fucking science has prooved if I keep going and take care of my health I can do it. So GET OVER YOURSELVES AND DRAW! BECAUSE IT'S COOL AS SHIT!!!

>>3109939
That's retarded.
If you're happy with your current skill and you are not a master yet there is something wrong with your mentality.

>>3103930

I just have no idea how people can draw things they haven't seen before, I suppose they see it in their minds but for me it is impossible to draw without a shitload of references, I am never sure of how things should look I need reaffirmation of some kind.

>>3109937
>>3109937
thou musteth flippeth thy canvas

>>3110133
from practicing from lots of ref, these people have built up a large visual library. They understand how to visualize complex shapes as simpler forms. practicing from references is important.

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>>3110133
>I just have no idea how people can draw things they haven't seen before
They can't. Even Kim Jung Gi can't.

>>3103930
All my ideas are derivative.

>>3110197
They must not have a lot of Flamingos in Korea.

>>3110365
This thread is for people WITHOUT commercial potential.

I stopped drawing for a year

>>3110468
I did too now I'm back to drawing. Happens.

>tfw have no option but to make it
Not making it is a middle class issue, the epitome of mediocrity

>>3110486
I'm glad we middle class people can have issues as well instead of just the poor and working class.

>>3106937
Negativity is somewhat of a motivator for me, but at the same time continually going through negativity even after the effort just makes it easier to fall into despair.

>>3104057

There is a way to curb this thouhg, visualize your imaginations as drawings first, as if, imagine your finished piece the most crude way possible.

Why I won't make it? It's easy, I just can't get the proper mind game up. I know for sure if I worked hard I would make it, I would become successful. There is no problem in that direction when it comes to mentality.

But I just can't get trough the grind, I can't get trough the phase of self doubt, of suffering. I'm the kind of guy who works 2 years in the same job and still every single day suffers from waking up, from going to work, from doing the job. Who hates every single second and wants to escape. The only thing holding me back is the fear of consequences. And this is with something relatively easy, not at all comparable with something truly challenging. On the other hand, learning art is truly fulfilling unlike a shitty job you hate.

I won't make it but I won't abandon this hobby either way.

>>3104042
>/r/incels

its called /r9k/ you stupid redditard

>>3104278
This. I just don't fucking understand why

>>3110592
How old are you?

>>3104278
My mental eye has developed a lot since I started drawing several hours daily these past few months. Maybe you should just keep at it.

I can't even do "Fun with Pencil" by loomis right.

>>3104306
B l o c k i n g
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>>3114098
>lol aw how cute
>claims to be at least 30 years old
Something doesn't add up

>>3114114
Oh it's a god damn pasta. How the fuck am I supposed to keep up with all this shit?