What exactly happened to CA.org?

>>3089940
There's more than one thing that killed it off.
>several community dramas leading to mass exoduses
>a screwup where the artists who did the tutorials weren't getting paid, some of them being owed 10's of thousands
>lots of shit from Jason Manley, some of it true some using him as a scapegoat
>the industry growing too big for forums to be viable and social media coming into the picture
>bad moderating (censorship)
>once enough pros left the community it went to shit

>>3089947
Do you remember any details around any of these things? The drama, what kind of shit from Manley, etc

Got curious myself and found a couple goodies, thought I'd share:

http://alradeck.deviantart.com/journal/Death-of-Conceptart-Org-381239560

http://4chandata.org/ic/TheArtDepartment-Vs-Jason-Manley-ConceptArt-org-Founder-Trial-a742265

>>3089947
Social Media was a mistake.

Here's a better question: why should we care that it's dead? Everything good about it was pay-to-play to begin with, and the forums were a shitty platform anyway.

>>3090031

It's important to know the reason, to help prevent something similar from happening in the future.

Plus it's interesting as fuck.

>>3090012
Thanks for this anon.

>>3090016
The landscape has changed significantly. It's fragmented as all fuck it's hard to keep track of shit today. There is no chance of a "one forum to rule them all" at the moment.

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>(I'm guessing you are now in your 30s, oh boy).

I'm 28

>>3090041
There is and it's called Artstation. They'll go for opening up a forums section at some point. At least I hope they do.

>>3090972

Close enough

>>3090972
getting old there grandpa, maybe it's time to take a break and let the next generation take over ;)

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>>3089940
>Site went down more often
>attachments being deleted or lost
>Jason Manley didn't pay the tutorial artists, including his own friends, did a lot of things just for money apparently
>ratio of noobs to pros got worse and worse, and less interaction between them
>after another Manley thing? public exodus of a few pros and high up admins

At least Jason refunded my ticket for the workshop. Those THU guys have gone straight to fill that gap in the market, idk how useful those things are other than networking though.

>>3090975
Artstation is a replacement for CGHub, not for ConceptArt. They tried to put Permanoobs into that spot but the initial spark of that place faded quickly, idk how many people stuck with it.

>>3090975
I doubt they will. It almost seems as if they're actively avoiding it because you'd think by now they would have opened one up.

Maybe they see it as a relic of history, plus we all know how unruly and fucked up forums can get.

>>3089940
final nail was the site switching templates, a new social media style "wall" that got flooded with furry porn gifs and "hacked"

I gotta say the jobs forum worked well, you could always get legit bites by bumping your thread, that really helped me through early freelance, not sure theres a jobs forum that works as well now.