Post your shameful secrets regarding anything /ic/ related.

>90s
>aunt gives me a floppy disk with bugs bunny pictures in black and white
>I print a bunch to color them
>bring some to school
>classmates know I draw
>they ask if I did that
>I say yes
>they ask how
>"in my computer. With the mouse"
>no one questions it

I think this is the only time I lied about drawing something that wasn't mine, which is why it's such a strong memory.

>>3075015
Same here, except instead of bugs bunny I traced Final Fantasy characters from the manuals and said I did it.

I've never read anything by Loomis.

I redraw other people's pictures out of spite.

>>3074944

I only found /ic/ and started drawing because I was looking for an ic (the illness) community

>>3075029
same

also I went to art school
also I like action painting

not exclusively of course. my tastes are pretty broad. never lied about drawing anything though.

I had sex in the life drawing classroom after hours one time.

I check the deviantart of an ex probably every week. she posts something maybe every year and a half. Pretty unsatisfying.

>>3074944
i've been "studying" loomis for about 2 years and i haven't gotten past page 30 or 40 or something.

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>>3074944
I fall in love with every girl I see.

I want Betty to model for me. She's insaneeelllyyyyyy gorgeous.

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>>3074944
I'm entertained that people think I turn out girls of barely 18.

I'm a highschool lover. When they turn 18 they are no fun.

sometimes I trace a reference photo to get an idea of positioning on the paper and what to do with my lines, then I redraw it with this information.

>>3075131
...how is that shameful?

I liquify my traditional drawings before posting to Instagram. In my defense, unless you hold your camera perfectly parallel to your paper, the drawing gets warped because of perspective so I have to liquify the picture to make it as close to the original as possible.

>>3075135
Every time I do it I feel like I'm cheating.
I'm also not doing my observational skills any favors.

>>3075141
Do what I do
Measure. Draw on your own. Then trace and compare the two, put the trace (or original image) layer above the drawing you made, see how close you got.

>>3075144
hey, that's a good idea!
thanks man

i never read loomis

I had sex with a concept artist.

>>3074944
I use designdoll whenever I have trouble with a certain perspective or something

>>3075046
I love this

>>3075063
>I had sex in the life drawing classroom after hours one time.

I was in the life drawing room cracked out on adderall. I had to leave so I looked around for someone to let me back in. The person I found was the most attractive girl I've ever seen. She gave me her number and was laying it on super thick when i got back, touching me and stuff.

But adderall makes my dick totally flaccid. I did not have sex in the life drawing classroom after hours despite my GOLDEN opportunity. I will forever be ashamed.

>>3075634
also it was 2 am

I learned to draw out of spite/jealousy of one insanely talented kid in middle school. I went so far as digging through the recycle bin for his discarded doodles and copying them. the act of drawing makes me insanely tense and angry, I'm constantly swearing under my breath and have a tendency to throw fits when things aren't turning out right.

>>3074944
last night I played video games instead of drawing

again

I hope tonight won't do it again, give me tips guys, how to stop procrastinating from what you want to do

when I create a habit I can stick to it. the problem is that I am not in school anymore, and my job is way more hectic than school was so I can't make habits anymore. Each time I get like a week of drawing straight and I feel I can keep going, there has to come a day too busy to let me draw and then the chain is broken and I need another month of procrastination before I get back into it

In holidays I procrastinate too but atleast I am consistent and draw day by more than the previous day

how do I do the same of the days when I can't create a schedule because my job gives me free time, but also requires me to be ready for work at any given moment of the day?

>>3075645
Oh don't worry, one day of playing games cant hurt much. You'll get to it eventually, when you're in the mood, and then you'll draw a lot, and you'll establish a schedule, and someday you will become a successful artist. Maybe tomorrow, or starting on Monday, you will surely get to it.

>>3075645

Make the drawing habit so fucking easy to start you can't say "no". Leave everything set to start.

Put your computer to hibernate with PS open. Leave your pen and paper ready on your desk...

... And start small. Just ONE line, dude. It ain't that much.

Distracting yourself is OK. But don't schedule when you're going to focus, scedule when you're going OUT of focus.

I.E: Drawing at 9am and no vidyas. — Bad.

Drawing at 9am and vidyas at 3pm —Good.

Protip: Don't use the internet to entertain yourself.

But stick to it. The first goal is not making your greatest piece. It's just showing up and drawing.

Do not coun your progress on how many drawings you finish. Count your progress on how much you can do in 20 minutes.

And lastly: PLAN WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO.

It's frustrating just sitting there and doodling ugly shit for like 20 minutes, then leaving.

Have a plan: "I'll study this shit, then draw 10 of them". "I gotta finish this sketch". "I'll continue rendering this shit"...

When you are out of focus, have something low-carb to eat (I drink Fanta, but you better not).

Do not wait to start. Do it now.

>>3075015
>me 5th or 6th grade
> class t-shirt contest
> copy a pic off the internet but modify it a lil
> win contest and get my pic on class shirt
> one kid who lost knows I copied and called me out for it but nobody really cared

I stared my drawing career doodling on all the presidents in my history books

i make my own threads instead of posting in /beg/

>>3075688
Well you need to stop it, Illustrat

>>3075702
no.

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>work at dead end arts and crafts retail job
>take merch home every day
>on average 20-50 USD worth of stuff a day
>wallets of pitt/micron art pens
>liquitex paint pens
>expensive sets of watercolor cakes

I've wanted to work my way up to the copics/prismacolor stuff. Chamaleon pens are looking bretty sweet too. I'm not good enough at art to put any of this stuff to use. Been thinking of ways to resell it and make a profit. The company I work for are exploitative slave drivers. I get no benefits and make $36 dollars a day.

I trace my own hands when I can't figure how to make them from scratch. I use this as practice and do them again on my own though, but I still feel dirty.

>>3075015
pokemon book, traced pokemon

>>3075046
Kek

>>3075758
How many hours do you work?

>>3075539
Doesn't sound really shameful.
I got one though. I pose nude in front of mirror to learn certain perspectives on occasion. I'm my own nude model. It's not so i can draw myself though. I just want to see how muscle groups behave and really general stuff.

>>3074944

I want to learn to draw weeb shit but I pretend to follow le anime was a mistake meme by shitting on those who draw it.

>>3075394
absolutely disgusting.

Jesus fucking christ, get off this board with that shit.

>>3075807
for what purpose?

>>3075807
Anime is really fun to draw. You are only hurting yourself, anon.

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>>3074944
I am the original *smack*pasta poster.

>>3074944
More than 3/4ths of my drawing practice book is drawings of my fictional anthropomorphic bird husbando from a videogame, including drawings of him nude and with his cock out. If anyone found the book I'd probably kms

I change my style too much and I don't know who to make my own

>>3075046
nice
>>3075120
lauren is shit

>>3075856
Is it Kass?

>>3075862
No and that wouldn't even make sense he's from this year why would I have drawn that much art of him in less than 5 months

Yesterday I started drawing again for the 4th time.
I will most likely end up quitting again within a month.

>>3075874
keep at if familia, draw what you enjoy drawing

>>3075876
Thanks! I've been doing some drawabox and some Keys to Drawing hoping that the combination of autistically drawing boxes interspersed with still lives will get me through

>>3075865
>why would I have drawn that much art of him in less than 5 months
Don't know man, I saw a character design I liked about three weeks ago and have attempted to draw said character over 50 times already.

>>3075888
A word of advice so you don't quit within a month:
Make sure you put aside time to dick around and create the things that ACTUALLY got you interested in drawing. If you do too many studies you become too critical and close-minded. You don't even want to draw anything from imagination and it feels like you forgot why you draw.
It happened to me last year, and I stopped drawing for like; three months. I don't know how it was for you, but over-studying kills the need to draw sometimes.

>>3075898
I can see that, but I also have a crippling fear of drawing what I want to, drawing it shitty, and then quitting as a result.
But it's worth a shot

Last night i stuck my tablet pen in my penis hole.
Woopsies!

>>3075890
Oh haha okay then in that case I lied it is him and I thought him being so new would add onto the shame

I've been a beginner for almost 10 years (14 if you count hobby work). Can't draw any better than my peers did in high school. I can't do proper line work or colour, and have a difficult time posing characters so they always feel stiff. I also cannot foreshorten.

I can also only draw one type of character
and face, and I cant draw it from a side angle.

Just got accepted into a highly competitive art program despite being unable to draw. Several people, like hundreds, got rejected, who can draw leagues better than me. Makes me feel ashamed and embarrassed. I feel like a fake.

>>3075986
can you post some work?

you might be actually terrible, or someone with very very low self esteem in their work

sounds like the latter to me

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>>3075995
from the style thread.

>>3075919

This >>3075898 anon is exactly right. I empathize with your anxieties, but after grinding perspective for an hour, a pair of crudely drawn titties lightens my mood dramatically.

>>3075796
I think many artists do that. And even more don't, but should.

>>3075790

17-20

25+ around xmas time

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>>3076013
Not bad, the wardrobe could use some more reference. The hand gestures could be more exacting. We actually share a lot of the same art-related issues, so I'm glad to hear that you've been awarded!

>>3076013
You go to art school to learn. If you could already draw what's the point?

>>3075898
>Make sure you put aside time to dick around and create the things that ACTUALLY got you interested in drawing. If you do too many studies you become too critical and close-minded. You don't even want to draw anything from imagination and it feels like you forgot why you draw.
>It happened to me last year, and I stopped drawing for like; three months. I don't know how it was for you, but over-studying kills the need to draw sometimes.
>tfw this happened to me and I haven't drawn in a month
Yet I still browse /ic/

>>3075654
>>3075659
ty guys, it helped alot. especially the
>don't schedule when you're going to focus, scedule when you're going OUT of focus.

I realize that is what I used to do in the days I didn't had to be ready for work all the time, because I could schedule my day (and say something like 3 pm play time).

I tried yesterday before I woke to sleep and now in the morning and it worked perfectly. I could focus on the task at hand knowing fun times will time latter.

>>3075898
>If you do too many studies you become too critical and close-minded
ic in a nuttshell

>>3075986
>>3076013
They're using you as a cash cow. Am I right in assuming they didn't offer you any scholarships or anything? They don't care that you're shit, they care that you think you need to go to muh prestigious competitive art school and are willing to pay large amounts of money for it. Famous music schools like Berklee are becoming notorious for this, as of late. They're still bringing in serious talent, for sure, but they're also happily accepting people like yourself so they can sap more pansies of their money.

>>3075825

To cut down competition.

>>3075847

Yeah. It is. Don't you think I don't draw anime just because a group of shitty anons.

I hate digital

>>3076358
Same. Rendering digitally is the bane of my fucking existence. I'll just stick to traditional coloring

>>3076357
>muh cutting down the competition
Nigger you're not doing anything in the grand scheme of things. If you think the most important competition that you have to keep down in the game of making it are a handful of animeposters on one of 4chan's boards, you're already fucked

>>3076358
>>3076360

you both are terrible at art. I can already tell.

>>3076350
welp, guess I'll just hate myself even more then.

>>3076373
Ultimately do what you think is best but if that's your level after 10 years of dedicated work you should seriously ask yourself what's better in the wrong run. At schools like these cash cows get put together in lower classes while the top dogs exponentially improve under the famous teaching the school advertises about. Is it worth putting yourself thousands upon thousands in debt to sit around in a circlejerk of shitty artists for 3 or 4 years? Or would that money be better spent in some other ways while you just continue to improve yourself with solo work, or maybe getting private lessons?

>>3075122
Pedo

>>3076372
you are terrible at digital i can already tell

>>3075120
Me too ):

>>3076383
you are terrible and a faggot among this forum. your mothers a salty cunt and your dog is a piece of shit. just like your life.

>>3076396
Absolutely shameful.

>>3076396
Dastard! I challenge you to a gesture battle!

>>3076402
accepted.

i'm fucking serious too.

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I use to like Andrew Dobson's stuff, I even took some art advice from him. Though the more I educated myself in art the more I lost respect for him, and then I started to actually read the stuff he wrote and how he responded to criticism. I'm embarrass that I ever followed him.

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>>3075015
MSN messenger had a drawing feature. You could send drawings to people. You could also change your background in the chat windows. I used to trace the backgrounds in the chat window and send them to a girl a liked, hoping she'd be impressed.

thanks for reminding me

One of my big goals in art is to draw gay cartoon porn.

>>3076531
Woah, I totally forgot all about that feature, even though I used it all the time. Using the background to trace is pretty smart, though.

My only goal in art is to improve and reach the point where I'm the greatest I can be. I don't care about money, I just want to make something that moves people and gets them to draw.

>>3076540
Mine too
Not specifically gay porn, just attractive dudes. I've always liked drawing shirtless guys, it's my favorite thing to draw, even though I suck at it.

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>>3074944
I received a free pen tablet as a gift from an anon who later committed suicide.
I don't actually use it.

>>3076804
Damn, I didn't actually think those people would do it, makes me wonder who's left over the years.

The only reason I've started drawing again is because I'm a big fucking weeb and I want to create more of the fetish I'm into. I could never tell my peers as they are quite serious about art and some are already decent freelance illustrators.

>>3076806
This, holy shit. Will they ever take us seriously? We're total shit. But damn do I want to join their rankings.

>>3076810
I'm sure they'll find out eventually as I've shown very little interest in landscapes or anything that isn't human anatomy.

>>3076828
Don't be autistic and there's literally no way your friends should find out you're running a porn blog or whatever. Just don't tell them, don't draw porn shit around them, draw under a pseudonym, and this is a non-issue.

>>3075865
Falco?

>>3076804
Damn...

>>3075758
I do the same except not as frequently and mostly copics also I don't work there

I make around 18k a month, have three patreons, and all i do is outsource

>>3075635
I hope this regret haunts you till you die so that you can come back as a sex starved, limp dicked, life drawing classroom ghost.

>>3075856
fucking kek

>>3075122
I'm not sure what you're exactly saying, but I have a strong feeling you should be put to death

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>>3074944

I once touched a horse to better feel it's form.

>>3074944
I picked up drawing just to justify my hoard of drafting materials

>>3078017
No sex for 2 years; only 4 times of disappointing limp-dicked sex in 5 years.

I've accepted celibacy. There are other enjoyable experiences in life outside of intimacy.

>>3076804
i had an art friend hang himself with a belt in the closet the day after i was at a party with him..

rip

I think I'm better than pretty much everyone here

I feel like I lose all of my observational and drawing skills despite me studying daily.

>>3079801
My narcissism and low self-esteem in my work balance out and I simultaneously think I'm both better and worse than everyone else

I don't know how much should you pay a model

Not saying yor post is shit OP, just doing a test real quick >>>/trash/

>>3081016
I wish I was a big beefy man so I could be my own model

>>3081115
If you truly wished for it then you'd already be lifting fuccboi

>>3081119
I'm a grill

>>3075645
Set up a daily challenge to force yourself to draw at least a little each day.

>>3081120

A N A V A R
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>>3081120
wearing girls underwear you don't qualify as one

>>3074944
>4 years at art school
>i'm complete shit and hide it behind tons of reference

>>3078011
Damn what a god, def don't feel shame, you are basically an entrepreneurial genius, it's all about supply, demand and timing and you are a man of the times. If you do feel some art related shame consider actually painting/drawing a little bit, just to be "in it".

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>Apartment burns down
>New apartment won't be able to set up internet for 2 weeks
>So no porn
>So I draw my own and jerk to it
>been drawing porn off and on ever since

>>3081182
i would call you talented nonetheless.

I don't even draw, I browse the board to see what everyone else can do and if I enjoy it.

>>3075015
I'll confess, too.
In 4th grade or something I traced a picture of a dragon and said I drew it. I was going to give it to a friend, but my bitch teacher took it and trashed it for whatever reason.
I also copied a report from the internet on the Battle of Trenton once in middle school, unrelated.

I was once banned for shitting on an /ic/ namefag.

>>3074944
I made Steven Universe fanart and other forms of pandering to get followers. I felt way too filthy to continue and it wasn't working anyway because the majority of what I posted was original work.

Don't draw things because you think others will like 'em.

>>3075394
>She kept changing positions and asking you which one you liked best

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>>3074944
I don't actually ever draw anything, I just come to /ic/ to remind me of when I was young and used to draw a lot and how I threw it all away.
Sometimes the "I want to draw now" still hits me, but every time I ask "draw what" and I just don't know

Rarely ever post though, so you don't have to worry about me critiquing your artwork

>>3076804

is it from that one guy who posted the wishlist thing a while ago

I wonder how many people actually got something from him

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I think drawing is a waste of time. I'm very ashamed of it.

Sometimes I'm careless and say such thoughts out loud, and of much surprise to me, people get offended. They wish I would take it more seriously. Me too. I wish I could see it as anything but a degenerate, bohemium, nu-male day-care activity. Because I don't ever plan on quitting.

Pretty sure I can actually blame my mom for this.

>>3086150
It's actually a real problem. People say you should curb your pride, but i've had people tell me I need more pride. Help?

I used to be a concept artist, then an art director. Moved into design about 2 years ago after about 10 years of it. I haven't drawn anything in a month. Haven't produced a painting of something that I actually give a shit about in about a year. I've been suffering from emotional paralysis. I moved across the country a few months back and everyone keeps being like... "Well, you used to be an art director." Like it must mean that I'm incredible. All I can see is the weaknesses in my own art. On top of that, I feel like I'm starting from scratch in some ways with my design work. It's hard to start over. I fell into design accidentally, as I just intuitively was better than the designers at a lot of the companies I was freelancing for in my hometown and became known for it... So I started getting more requests for my design skills than my art skills... For as much or more money than being an artist... I thought it was my calling. And I still do, but when things get hard I find myself really missing the art world and the emotional high of working on art that I used to get back in the day.

I'm training my partner in art. It's been okay. I don't like drawing my own stuff in front of him because he has unreasonable expectations (like, expected that I should basically never use reference ever for anything, for example, or nitpicked very small stylistic changes for no reason endlessly when I was just trying to chill out after an entire day of being nitpicked and nitpicking other people's work) and if I asked him to leave me be he would just keep pushing the issue all night, which in the end compounded my paralysis.

Sometimes (once a week or so) I hole myself up in my bedroom for hours just looking at art instruction books and comics. Or I'll hide out in a cafe and sketch cute girls in my notebook. But it has been a bit.

Anyway, thanks for letting me vent. Be cool to each other.

I draw porn of celebrities and youtubers.

>>3075033
Ever do any of firez or brians?

>>3074944
any time that I start doodling, i catch myself drawing profiles facing the left

every
single
time

fuck

>>3075120
MARC?!

>>3083734
Are you me? Dude. I'm in the same boat, 33 and don't have time or motivation anymore. Just a feeling of regret.

>>3083734
>>3088098
Same, though I'm only 24.

The irony is that another 10 years'll pass, I'll be your age, and wonder how good I could've been if I just started now.

i drink alone and paint in my room with the lights off, i think about suicide and how much of a loser I am when I create art.

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>>3076804
hes still alive. I got an email from him a month ago. If he died, its genuinely my fault, because i had no internet access hence didnt check my emails for nearly a month due to move.

>>3089171
But that anon confirmed he wasn't gonna kill himself in the threads already.

>>3089172
>confirmed

These things don't pass over. There's a lot of back and forth. Now that I think about it, ill ask him if i can have his gun. I didn't want anything back then, but obviously he's not using it atm.

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>>3089041

For 5 years now I havent drawn a single original creative piece - just some occasional "practice" sketching to maintain the hollow lie that the dream isnt dead and maybe I'll be inspired again one day once I have better skills. If I never draw them, I dont have to confront the fact that all my ideas are shit and I am shit and my "skills" are shit, and Im only doing this because my mommy and teachers told me I was a creative person and should be an artist 25 years ago.

>>3074944
I have not finished any personal art projects.

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>>3089979
T_T
me too

Have the skills to get in the studio I want, but not the discipline...

My life has always been rather bad, so I've imagined another world that I've used for escapism purposes for 10+ years now. I think about it for at least an hour every night before I sleep, and sporadically throughout the day, every day. My drive to draw is mostly fueled by it, as I want to see what the characters I've imagined actually look like outside my head. Without it I wouldn't have pursued art in any substantial way.

>>3076531
Oof, I'd cringe at that too.
Also you just reminded me how sick that game is brb downloadan

>>3075856
Just embrace it, dude or dudette. If that's what you like, that's what you like.

>>3086134
Yea, it is.
Franceanon didn't respond and Spainanon refused the offer in the end, but I believe one from the US got a cintiq from e-bay and another got some sketchbooks and markers.

I still draw a lot, but not quite as much as I thought I would.

>>3089171
Glad to hear. He dropped the communication with me 4 months ago, maybe your approach was more of what he needed.

But hell, you don't give away all your stuff if you're still in the stage of contemplating.

>>3079792
no matter what actually happened, the day after getting real smashed i feel a crushing weight of regret so overwhelming i could totally see just ending myself

I constantly compare myself to my peers ranking them from best to worst.
I tell them I think their work is really nice even when I don't.

>>3079792
holy shit why would somebody do something like this?, let his own body hanging inside his closest so that his family and freinds will be the ones to find it, fucking shit.

>>3092079
Why exactly?

>>3092111
When you're suicidal you often don't think things through/aren't thinking straight. Suicide is often done in the moment with whatever the person has access to. Your mind goes into "time to die" mode and your mind can't really think about others and the consequences because you feel so horrible in the moment that death feels like the only correct thing to do.

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>>3091945
>have long chat and thought I was going to get something
>get told I dont need help
>feel bad for not getting anything and then feel worse for being entitled enough to think I might
>calculate how long it'll take me to save for a cintiq or something, see how long it is
>draw less often, now no longer worthy even if I once was in the first place

My secret is I constantly encourage other people and help them to feel gud and get gud, but I'm the total opposite to myself. I don't think I'm the only one.

>>3090053
This isn't shameful, it's actually pretty cool.

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more often than id like to admit, I get overwhelmed by my own patheticness. Being 24, being unemployed. Having aging parents. Not doing anything to get a job because Muh Artist Industry but not working nearly as hard enough (not doing my ten hours, too busy collapsing on the bed from being overwhelmed.)
Friends from uni forgetting me and moving on with their lives. Occasionally ill post the sketch on instagram to make sure they dont completely forget about me.
but above all, what depresses me most is not having a purpose to my drawing. It's just photostudy after photostudy. I want to feel like I'm building towards something far away and great. But it doesn't. Right now I just feel like I'm trudging through the swampy muck and if I stop even for a moment, I'll sink in and never come out. I trudge step after step with my shitty photostudies and not learn a thing. Still hoping that I'll find a light that gives me something to really move my pencil for.

>>3092130
honestly anybody who tried to get something deserved nothing.

>>3092130
I'm like you. I want to and try to push people to do their best while being miserable. Sort of as a means to say "Look at how shit I am! Don't end up like me!"

I feel way more like drawing on days I don't come to /ic/.

>>3075015
You monster
You'll burn in hell for that

>>3092172
wuut

>>3074944
I let a simple drawing by a friend of a friend ruin my life. No joke

>>3092296

plz explain

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>>3090053
https://zalbarath666.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/peter-j-carroll-liber-null-psychonaut.pdf

>>3092165

Do more finished pieces that center around a specific project. Like a book of angel illustrations, an animatic, a sketchbook with a certain theme, etc etc.

Also sounds like you need to get out more, even if its just running errands.

Might need to get a part-time job too. It might seem counter-intuitive, but having work can often make people more productive in their spare time due to the momentum it gives you, so ironically you could end up doing more despite having less free time. Jobs in the industry are jobs like all others, getting basic work experience will prime you for a career and be a place to make basic mistakes. Not only that but you should have your own money to spend on supplies, courses, etc.

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Here's my list:
I used an auto-liker to boost my Instagram's illustration page into the thousands. It worked very, very well.

I've built a freelance illustration career off drawing figures, and most of my jobs consist of me tracing models in Design Doll. I paid for the pro license.

I've bought brush packs and flaunted them in front of other anons who wanted to pirate them.

The only reason I was able to build up an illustration career is because my parents paid for my art school and that since I didn't have any loans to repay, my costs of living were very low. My parents also bought my Cintiq to help support me.

I used to bring my laptop and tablet to coffee shops almost entirely for the purpose of hoping some girl would take an interest and start talking to me. It worked,and it started my first, real relationship.

I bought Photoshop CS4.

I pirated and listened to Noah Bradley's "Art of Freelancing", and I thought it was very insightful.

I've pandered to Reddit to reach the front page on several different occasions.

I think fantasy, sci-fi & concept art is super lame.

I think the anons who are desperately trying to build up their porn Patreons are amongst the saddest individuals on this board.

>>3092323
you seem like brian from family guy. he is also pathetic.

>>3092340
Patreon pornographer detected

>>3092301
i would, but someone involved in it might be here... right now...

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>>3092348
dont have to be one to see the self contempt in anons post

>>3092350

True, best not to doxx oneself

>>3092130
Sorry about that mate. I never thought I'd get something, it was pure curiosity that led me.

You don't have to feel bad though. Lesson learned, now move on - beating yourself up only leads to more stagnation. You deserve to be happy.

>>3092172
He encouraged people to ask for stuff, trying to get something would be a natural response.
Of course, nobody deserved anything. Just because you ask about the person's mental health while you're at it doesn't entitle you to anything.

>>3092350
Look dude I'm fucking sorry I made that giant painting of you being naked with a really tiny penis ok

Fine?

>>3092375
ive already decided ill bully him into giving me his gun.
>inb4 illegal in canadia
>inb4 arrested at border.

>>3092351
Just curious - how'd you get a sense of self contempt from my post?

>>3093560
Not him, you might not feel self contempt but based on your post you definitely should

>>3093577
You're right that I might not (I don't at all), but there's nothing really that I've shared that I wouldn't ultimately stand behind. The only thing that pops out at me is the hypocrisy in degrading others for not buying brush packs, but then pirating Noah Bradley's "Art of Freelancing".

Why should I feel more self contempt?

>>3092323
>I used an auto-liker to boost my Instagram's illustration page into the thousands. It worked very, very well.

The thought of being followed by anyone because they thought I took an interest in their posts, when really I don't even know they exist leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but apparently you really can't get a following on social media now without getting lucky or using sleazy tricks like that.

Fuck, I wish I'd been born 10 years earlier and gotten into digital art when conceptart.org was just taking off.

>>3093601
The last part where you were shitting on the pornfags just made me think that your post as a whole makes as it seem like you are pretty similar to them in a lot of ways

>>3093634
> you really can't get a following on social media now without getting lucky or using sleazy tricks like that.
I wouldn't say you can't get a following without luck or "sleazy" tricks. It just takes a lot more work. I used the auto-follower because it didn't seem like there was a significant enough return on the time & effort to build a social media following 'properly' from scratch. For what it's worth, I think people over emphasize the need for a large social media following, and that it shouldn't be a main priority when trying to build a career with your art. There are far, far more important things to focus on.

>>3093643
>your post as a whole makes as it seem like you are pretty similar to them in a lot of ways
How so? I'm not seeing a connection between myself and them.

From what I've seen in threads here, people who think "making it" means building up a porn Patreon are among the most naive, immature and stupid people on /ic/. I'd lump a few others into that category - namely the people who create those 'commission charts' where they list their prices (usually embarrassingly low) for commissions. I think they're the saddest because they just cannot comprehend how people can making a living off work that's not porn.

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134 followers on Instagram and all of them are shittier artists than me. I don't know why this makes me upset but it does.

I haven't drawn in months, I've just been playing FFXIV every day.

>>3074944
I paid for college art classes 4 years ago and started making some really good progress. I have hardly picked up a pencil since. When I do, I gravitate towards shitty anime drawings.

>>3074944
I like this painting, who is it by

>>3094493
actually it's one of those new AI filters, so a computer painted it i guess

>>3094500
You actually got me you piece of shit. Well done.

>>3094506
it's clear as day it wasn't made by a program.

>>3094506
;)

>>3094516
I was thinking it could be a bleached photo with an algorithm that creates these kinds of broad horizontal brushstroke textures and adjusts colorlevels and contrast to simplify values and create an oilpainting-feel, but yeah, in hindsight it's obvious.

>>3075758
you make $36 per day because that's slightly less than the actual value you generate. probably less, because stealing makes you a liability for your employer.

What studio I work in is not important. I'm fucking sick of this industry, and the human worms feasting on its carcass. The time has come for me to unveil my magnum opus.

I genuinely think going to the gym is easier and funner than drawing.
Sometimes I wonder what the point is, ruining my posture and my eyesight for hours a day just so I can learn to draw my animu husbando

>>3094944
That's why you do both.

>>3094944
well, do you care about making images that express beautiful things?

a fit body expresses hard work and care. but great art cant just express dedication. drawing mindless patterns across a giant canvas expresses that and any retard can do it.

>>3094944
>animu husbando
>gym

You're living the dream fagface, you can be your own model.

>>3094959
Why don't you go to the gym?

Im a real person with real feelings

>>3074944
I started drawing because I wanted to draw Little King John and Summer Solstice Baby boning as a joke

>>3096149
you are text on my computer screen and nothing more.

no mercy

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BENIS

>>3074944
>be me
>be 6 or 7, i dunno
>at my grans place
>older twin cousins come over
>they know i draw alot
>want me to show them what i can do
>draw a shitty robot
>ask me to draw something from this magazine they had
>womens magazine, lots of dresses and stuff
>tell me to draw a dress from memory
>put page underneath blank piece of paper
>they think i cant see the dress through the paper
>idea.jpg
>trace
i have never forgiven myself for that day. every time i think about it i kill myself 4 times as penance to the old masters for defiling this sacred art form. every night i put my dick in a pencil sharpener and pray to proko to teach me how to draw from imagination in hopes i can atone for this sin.

>>3075015
i discovered drawing is fun after i drew a penis on our whiteboard back in high school. in permanent marker

>>3098035
Proko is a hack

>7 years old or some shit
>take out 'how to draw fantasy' book from library
>draw for hours and create dozens of characters
>can't get one villain right
>start getting autism level frustrated after continually fucking up
>finally trace the villain from the book
>look at my sin against the gods
>overwhelmed with guilt and terror
>rip drawing out of sketchbook and run outside to the burn bin
>stuff drawing as far down under newspaper and junk mail as my fat little arms can manage
>a cold, autumn gust picks up and howls menacingly as the world witnesses my shame
>the shadows of the willow tree creep over me like tendrils of the underworld coming to claim me for my crime
>the bare branches of the dark brush rattle like cackling daemons gossiping of how I'll suffer for my transgressions
>cry my way all the way back to the house and hide in my closet
>return the book the next day

I tried to draw porn when kid

I have a somewhat androgenous body so I can easily use pictures of me in different poses for all my referencing needs. I just alter the shapes to obtain the results I desire.

>>3098062
i do this to :) unfortunately i dont live alone so it makes it difficult . i even got some fake tits and some dresses and stuff. not because i'm a crossdresser but specifically for art lol.

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>>3098089

>>3098048
well written story desu

>>3098062
post pics for... reference

I cant into digital no matter what I do, it feels like none of my traditional skill translates to digital and it frustrates me too much to become comfortable with it

>>3076317
>Not bad
stop

>>3098637
i know that feel. and sometimes a digital pieces comes out alright, and i'm like, aha, i think i got it, then the next one doesn't work for shit. frustrating

>>3074944
I only picked up art to get noticed by people at school (age was around 13) ,never really had friends before. After seeing my art I became friends with 2 people whom now have abandoned me for a better artist. Im 18 now haven't drawn for a years whenever I see anyone with good drawing skills than me (irl) I just rage out and also
>All my works are traced but the shading is great tho

>>3074944
I don't actually practice, I procrastinate so much that I don't even draw anything, I could spend hours and hours reading theory, trying to understand anatomy just by looking at pictures and looking at tutorials, I come up with so many ideas and when I look at anything I'm extremely curious about how to draw it, but I never do fucking anything. I don't even know where to start to practice art seriously. I don't do excercises, I've never drawn cubes, just a couple of spheres. I don't do anything but I still consider myself a serious artist, even if only a begginer, and I hate myself for it.

>>3092323
Saved. Thanks for sharing anon. Sometimes you gotta work smarter not harder. Can you elaborate on how to pander to reddit?

>>3099980
For sure!

Basically, you need work with a hook. There needs to be something that people can attach to. The easiest way to do this is to create something with a specific audience in mind. The easiest way to do THAT is to create some fan art.

For example, if you were to whip up some portraits of the current main Game of Thrones cast, and share them to the large GoT subreddits, you would get a lot of eyes on your work. For non fan art, /r/pics and /r/art can work well, but I've had the highest conversion of views to followers on more niche subreddits. /r/gaming is a fantastic subreddit to get massive amount of views for any gaming related work.

Once you post, you'll need to set up easy links to ensure people can follow you. For example, when you first post the artwork, make a comment immediately briefly talking about how you made the work. Then mention that people can follow you at (social media link). This will usually be upvoted to the top comment so people can easily follow you.

Simple as that!

>>3075023
did the same thing *and* made Squall's hair longer lol

>>3077992
>also I don't work there
lol

>>3076373
just use it as an opportunity to learn

>>3076804
>>3079792
...horrible

>>3081012
share the feeling

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>>3074944
I buy supplies only knowing I will stare at them but never pick them up to practice or do shit.

Some day I will.
> ngmi

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haven't drawn seriously in about a year-since flunking out of school so badly I have to wait a semester to return. but I didn't; not yet. because of this, I'm embarrassed to make a progress chart here.
went back home to take therapy again. worse than ever I got sent to the psych ward and gained a higher dose perscription and second drug.
getting better, so I might make be able to start again. I'd like to be able to join LAS maybe in a couple months.

>tfw art is all I have
>not even good at it

>>3102218
>joining LAS
Good luck if you do.

I used to just draw for fun, not doing any kind of study or practice of any kind, until I read Bleedman's doujins.

I wish I could say I was inspired by something good, something decent, and not a creepy deviantart pedophile.

Drawing anything but porn bores me so much that i usually don't finish a drawing unless i'm being paid to finish it.
>yeah yeah im a pathetic degenerate
I blame the world for not having anything interesting enough to inspire me other than a really nice pair of tits and a cute face.

Sorry i'd rather spend my time doing something that actually excites me than doing some mundane shit that probably wont even get an eyebrow raise from most people.

>>3102236
You don't have to apologize for being an unimaginative hack, because no one cares. All porn artists are failures.

>>3102237
You're right. I'm unimaginative. But i am not a failure. I have been pulling in close to 2 grand every month for the past three years doing what i do and i'm living better off than most of the artists I know. FUck i'm doing better than some people with regular careers. So eat shit.

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>>3075015

>>3102241
k. youre a big guy. making a case for your anonymous ego.

>>3093895
It's simple, you crave recognition. and getting it from shitters is still recognition, and you see it as sort of defining your own skill level.

truth is theres no real telling why people decided to follow you. Strangers on the internet are strangers on the internet. just keep grinding whats important.

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I don't have a good reason to draw, and it kills me

>>3102253
you probably don't even make art, loser.

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I color pick art that I like ,lol

>>3102282
Did 4chan make u mad widdo beppi

>>3102333
Me too LOL

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I use pic attached often

>>3074944
>Spent way too long trying to get GD degree
>would rather get into digital art
>had plenty of time to get a job but too scared of failure
>finish degree and mom hands me directions to a place that is hiring
>part of me hopes I don't get the job
>get the job and start working 60 hour weeks
>no time to practice art but finally working and making money
>quit after 3 months because want a job with better hours, so i have more time to practice
>parents don't like it but let me chill for a few weeks to practice art
>promise myself to go hard and practice for 15 hours a day
>a month goes by and rereading old neet manga
>realize I only practiced art a few hours a day and the rest of the day is spent looking at tutorials and browsing the web
>realize I just quit a job I never thought I'd get because I just wanted to be a neet
Why can't I just be normal?

>>3103582
this is my life as well

>>3086353
Who

>>3075856
Same, anon. One of the best parts of learning how to draw is drawing your husbando/waifu

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>>3102223
thanks, senpai.
I do take some morbid comfort also in knowing it's common enough to be a trope. also in van gogh's yellow paint habits.

>>3103756
never drawn my husbando seriously. never felt I could do them justice when I tried. same with many other things I like too.

>>3075015
Ha I did something similar
>meet group of artist kids in 2nd or 3rd grade
>we all become friends
>I'm better than all of them except for this one kid named Kevin
>the next day I trace this Goku drawing from a "how to draw dbz" book I had
>everyone is wowed
>Kevin's actually nice about it and says it looks cool
I felt so guilty that I told him the truth the next day. He didn't even care, what a bro.