how can you be so good?

>>3062154
Ez mode is to blend in pictures and make a few adjustments

>>3062154
Photobash. Loomis is a meme, FengZhu is a meme.

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not going to art school

>>3062163
Then how come Feng, let alone Loomis are infinitely better artists capable of producing far superior work than this crap?

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>>3062197

>>3062154

You should be bolder than that, OP. Search for Noah's interview, the FAQ on his website, and then write an email to Noah explaining your goal and difficulties.
Asking to /ic/ won't teach you much. Be bold, go for the source.

>>3062154
Noah has been at it for like 20+ years.

>>3062154
the dudes like 27 now.

he started art school seriously when he was like 17.

paint seriously everyday. study hard. stop drawing furries,anime,porn. focus on life.

>>3062290

You seriously think this shit is good, don't you. Why don't you focus on life while you jump off a bridge.

>>3062295
no.

i personally dont like his stuff. some of his magic art is great tho. his personal art is shit, sin of man.

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"good"

>>3062326
>/ic/ doesn't like it when you don't use refs
>use refs
>it's not okay

>>3062326
he had photo refs of real people and he still somehow managed to make them look like lifeless cg dolls

>>3062335
>thinking that using ref is the problem with this image

>>3062335

>thinks using ref means pasting photos into your painting because you suck at drawing so bad

wew

>>3062335
>>3062336
those arent refs, he just plopped them in and then adjusted the colors, then painted ontop of them.

his anatomy is or was shit but that is fine since he does enviros and knows how to do this to make finished work

>>3062326
That's pretty disappointing, I definitely thought he was way better than that.

He tracers, he lies, he's a terrible person irl.

>>3062494
I'll bite anon, why is he a terrible person according to you? Did he beat her girlfriend? Did he take a sandwich from an starving child?

>>3062154
>>3062326
Well that is just fucking depressing.

>>3062504
Well he did rape a drunk girl.

>>3062504
>Did he beat her girlfriend
That doesnt necessarily make him a bad person

>>3062290

Or trace photoref

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>>3062504
>>3062517

>>3062569
>>3062362
>>3062494
if you use photos u took yourself its totally fine. live with the age of digital painting.

>>3062326
I got nothing against professionals using whatever tools to get the job done but what a miserable process, how can anyone enjoy drawing when you have to do hours upon hours of pointless shit to even draw a figure.

>>3063220
he enjoys the real money he gets at the end of the day.

>>3062326
lmao wtf. Tbh nothing against photo reference, but why is he obsessed with himself. I wonder what he does with the female characters. Wear a fat suit?

>>3063224
If you got into drawing for the money then you fucked up.

>>3063233
>obsessed

or maybe he just doesn't want to pay for a model. instead he would rather work hard to get into shape and shoot his own reference.

also there's absolutely nothing wrong with tracing and photo reference if you already developed and proven the skills to paint what ever you want.

>>3063265
didnt say he had to pay, but using the same body over and over seems kinda boring. Think his piece would really benefit from different kinds of bodies.

>>3063265
ITT Noah trying to justify being creepy AF

Fuck off m8

>>3063265
fuck off noah

>>3062154
>>3062326
Did he do the background though?

you guys know noah browses /ic/, right. He was the one who shared his own art camp here.

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>>3063279

>>3063289
>>3063191
best meme on IC so far

>>3063238
You are right, I don't have to eat nor sleep, drawing is everything, everyone should do it for free.

>>3063279
yea he did. from memory.

>>3063281
what artist doesn't. kek we're all here man.

>>3063274
>>3063273
you love my naked body. you don't have to be insecure about it man, tell us how you really feel.

>>3063298
timestamp

>>3063265
Yeah but he HASN'T proven the skills, he's fucking terrible at drawing humans without tracing. Go home Noah.

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>>3063238

>>3063298
Post your micropenis with a timestamp or gtfo

>>3063312
hahahaha

>>3063298
I was gonna say post tits or gtfo, but browsing through your portfolio, i have probably already seen them hundreds of times.

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>>3063304

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>>3063344

>>3063293
You donut, I meant if money is your main motivator then get a less competitive, more lucrative career, if you don't enjoy it then you fucked up.

There's a reason Noah teaches now instead of making art.

>>3063447
to stay afloat as an digital artist you have to use every trick in the book. the client does not care if you traced photos or not he only cares about the end result.

I used to follow noah on FB but he was so full of himself it made me cringe.. i just had to get rid of him.
He has some decet skills tho.. not the best but still pretty good.

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>>3064884

>>3062154
Digital art is a bunch of smoke in mirrors, I dare whoever did this to paint this within a non digital relm.
It's still good yes, but a LOT of shortcuts where made.

>>3065795
Process doesn't matter. All that matters is results.

The idea that you can't take "shortcuts" in art is fundamentally stupid, and quite hypocritical considering there are "shortcuts" in every medium.

>>3065795
so? try making a living as an illustrator with only traditional methods... good luck.

>>3062326
Pathetic.

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>>3063289
>>3063312
>>3063344
>>3065611
this reminds of of /ic/ when I started

>>3065795
lol

>>3065835
10/10

>>3065835
LOL

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Yeah, its more or less obvious when you take a closer look.

I think his female references in the three sitting girls pic are his ex. They don't have enough facial variety

>>3066637
Same anon. Looking at his work again, his values are sloppy, his rendering is sloppy, his composition is okay but leaves much to be desired. He doesn't know yet how to make the eye really chase around.

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>Noah gets with a hard 8, borderline 9/10 chick
>takes her all over the world ending up in Scotland
>she gets with some Scottish fuccboi whose better than Noah

J U S T
U
S
T

What matters is the end result.
Those who can't see it are gonna be those eternally stuck with mediocre bad art, lol.

>>3066642
The end result looks like shit though.

>>3066640
whats her name?

>>3066637
she dumped him over this painting apparently.

her tits weren't big enough so she fucking ditched noah.

>>3062160
>>3062197
You dudes are being stupid. There are not "bad" paintings. Your trying to be elitist and have shown your ignorance in these crude responses.

Paint one better and repost. Every 1 posting without showing their criticism visually is worthless. If you understand it better you can draw it better and should be able to show and not have to tell.

>>3062362
This. His construction and anatomy skills are weak (and I think I even read an interview in which he admitted this, but I could be wrong) but he's genuinely good at painting cool environments.

>>3067060
Leesha Hannigan

>>3063220
are you faggots really this stupid?

Every artist uses reference. eveerrryyyyy arrtttiiissssttttttt.

You should see some of the elaborate rigs of different sized grid'ed structures artist use to have to make portraits back in the day.

But you morons that think artists eyeball literally everything are more than likely still in highschool.

>>3067235
>If you understand it better you can draw it better
You don't need to draw to see when something looks off.

The people in this piece look very artificial, as if they don't belong in the artwork.
That's the problem with copy pasting other pictures and going from there.

>>3066640
She is at best a 6. Also she can be very cunty.

>>3062326
His thumbnail poses work better than the photo poses of himself. They look like male dancers doing some kind of 'art' play, completely kills any awe the original thumbnails implied.

>>3070147
LOL

I love Noah's landscapes.

He definitely has an edge for lighting and atmosphere.

Sorry, but all that really matters is results. It doesn't matter how you get it.

That's like telling an artist with no arms, he can't paint, because he doesn't have any technique - makes no sense.

>>3062326
All of you losers can say what you want about him. He's still better than you will be for the next 10 years.

Must feel nice to talk down about someone who is just better than you.

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>>3070690
>things facebook artists say

>>3062154
This shit is so kitsch. I can see it printed on a black tshirt and sold next to all the bags and hats with wolves on them.

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>>3062154
100 Lines
100 Ellipses
100 Boxes
and 10 finished pieces
EVERYDAY!!!!

>>3070697
what's a fb artist?

actually define what it is.

>>3070009
Oh fuck off, Chad. Yes she's a cunt, as are all liberal women.

come on now. noah Bradley is shit because he's a self-obsessed wanker, not because he traces photos. This thread is retarded.

>>3066637
even if it were more skilled, it's soulless rendering.

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>>3070705
actual image.

>>3067305
read the post before you spew shit, nobody sane has a problem with any artist using reference, having to go through a photo shoot for a simple standing pose,a borderline silhouette is a sign of a crippling lack of fundamentals.

>>3071974
This

The landscape background isn't all that impressive either

>>3071974
This. But whatever, his whole career is stealing lecture content from other artists, tracing over photos, exagerrating about how much money he makes, and groping chicks at shows. Fuck that faggot.

>>3072058
Dude where is your proof of him tracing? Innocent until proven guilty. Where is your proof? I like IC but I am really tired of all u weebs destroying threads with unbacked up claims.

If you guys hate references and other digital tricks this much, why don't you paint traditionally instead?

>>3072063
Are you stupid? There isn't proof of him tracing, there is proof of him flat out copy-pasting the photos themself right here >>3062326
He isn't even hiding it as he himself posted this process image.

>>3072123
>using reference is a digital trick
>traditional artists don't use references

Congrats, this was the dumbest comment I've seen all week on /ic/ and that means a lot.

>>3062326
such a shitty concept made worse by tracing poses of himself. not even the slightest bit of variation. what a lazy hack.

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So Brad Rigney is well-known for photobashing but how much of that is really going on in his recent character work? It's insane for not using any 3D assets.

>>3071974
>environment artist isn't good at figures
Absolutely fascinating.

>>3072055
Post your work faggot.

>>3063615
This is true.

But I would also argue in a lot of cases if said artist put more time into learning figures and anatomy they'd be able to draw a much more natural looking figure, with better poses/composition, using less ref in a shorter amount of time.

I see plenty of professional level artists making figural work that looks amazing using way less specific reference material compared to an artist like Donato Giancola or Dan Dos Santos who rely heavily on photo ref, shooting almost 1 for 1 photos (Like noah did) of figures in boring poses wearing equally boring costumes just to trace or copy them.

Sometimes using ref can very much become a hindrance that stagnates your work. Take the noah pcs for example, the figures are just naked human figures. No deviation in the body type or exaggerated features or costume......boring. Looks like he just learned how to paint nebula and wanted to do a whole painting based on that.

>>3072561

>>3071974 Is right though. You may not care but everyone on here constantly asks, "is it ok to do this?" or "Is tracing bad?" or "Is using ref bad?" ect. and this is a prime example of the answer.

Using photo ref is fine but not a substitute to studying and being able to draw with out it from memory. The two compliment one another. You might not be able to paint photo real from memory like a Brad rigney but relying too heavily on ref produces this kind of painting.

Morla of the story? Want to paint better figures, go study and paint figures.

>>3072549
You do realize he only started photobashing after he was famous for painting nearly photoreal/3d-look-a-like from scratch right? Also in that character the photos are pretty obvious and nearly ubiquitous.

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>>3072575
>Morla of the story? Want to paint better figures, go study and paint figures.
Of course but that isn't the goal for some and I'm willing to bet many artists are content with where their strengths lie as long as it's acceptable and pays the bills. Not everybody has it in them to become the next Mullins, Jaime or Ruan and being a pro in every possible aspect which I think is what /ic/ (>muh /ic/ isn't one person meme despite the parroting you always see when it's time to bash an artist) believes the end goal SHOULD be for any artist worth a damn. Unrealistic expectations.

>>3072561
Illustrator who often attempts to paint characters was too lazy to nail down his anatomy. Now he must go through so much pain to produce stiff figures full of errors.

I make no comment on his overall skill level, just that the process looks boring and hes not a good example to follow in this respect. Study hard, free yourself from crutches while you are young if you wanna have fun.

>>3072618
>Illustrator who often attempts to paint characters was too lazy to nail down his anatomy. Now he must go through so much pain to produce stiff figures full of errors.

anons call loomis a meme but he constantly warns you about this in his books