Alternative Art/Stylization General

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>>3048022
>>3048034
Here is the second one.

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I will be away from /ic/ for a bit, so feel free to make next thread.

>>3048901
oh no not the retarded korean in the pic

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posted in last thread as it was dying, but here's red forman from That 70s Show

doing a lot of face/likeness/caricature studies to get better at drawing faces/expressions from imagination.

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This was a color palette challenge. It is already finished, I don't want to change it now, but I'd like to know if something could be better in it.

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Here's my garbage for the day. If this is any good I might polish I dunno, but would like critiques before I polish the turd any further

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>>3049316
>that hand is ruining the gesture of the arm
You know that hands have wrists right? In that position you should've made the wrists pop out and curved the top hand inwards towards her chest and away from the viewer to follow the curve of the arm.
>tl;dr
>learn how to draw hands with wrists
>also how to properly finish backgrounds, and learn how to properly shade a light source while you're at it.

>>3049344
cute!
do you have a blog?

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>>3049344
Shit, just realized that the ears might be too far out. If you guys catch any other mistakes, feel free to beat me up and take my lunch money

>>3049344
Drawing on the left actually looks better than the girl.

>>3049428
..........Fuck my life, every time I try to be a render boy I always get reminded that I will always be a stickman draftsman boy. I just bullshited that crappy mannequin dude in 20-30 seconds and yet anon thinks muh girl I spent 3 hours painting is worse....why is must this be so?

>>3049344
>turd
>actually not that bad
This is already like iron or even steel.

Newfriend here, do you guys have a source where I could find cool fighting poses?

>>3049110
I like how you simplified your lights and darks into 3 values. The only thing that seems weird to me is ear, it looks slightly small but I don't have the reference on hand so I could be talking out of my ass here. 8/10, the Loomis is strong in this one, start learning how to render and color like this anon's doing he seems to be already pretty advanced
>>3049110

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>>3049436
Spiderman comics. Or anything by the comic book pros like Jim Lee, Romita Sr or Romita Jr, J Scott Campbell, etc.
I'm not joking, there is some seriously great stuff in there, comics have some of the best dynamic figure artists out there. Even Kim Jung Gi does comics once and a while, although not of the superhero kind.

>>3049418
>>3049435
Thank you for the kind words, it keeps me going.
I'll make sure to get even better tomorrow!

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>>3049431
comes down to experience my dude. it may never get easier but you'll definitely get faster.

>>3049110
i'm this anon, back again with another likeness study. ref is escaflowne's reddit account (can't direct link because apparently captcha thinks i'm spam...)

any small tips/ landmarks to watch for when constructing heads? i know the eyes and ears are often aligned and that the philtrum is always as wide as the space between the nostrils, but i still struggle with attaching heads to necks

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>tfw falling into the redraw trap
Decided to opt for larger paper so I could into larger panels for fancy spreads and such

>>3049463
Wait aren't you that anon who used to post in /pol/ draw threads?

>>3049463
That black haired man looks evil as fuck dude. He looks cool as a character design for a villain but he just looks like he is secretly plotting to rape that girl. Look into character design and what makes good guys look good and what makes evil guys look like villain. Other than that, it's actually pretty nice anon, I like it.

>>3049464
yes
>>3049465
I understand he looks evil and she looks like a huge weeb, I did it on purpose

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>>3049463
Chabs? Is that you?

>>3049431
Pictures where someone is looking straight at you and everything is almost perfectly symmetrical tend to always feel dead. Have her turn her head slightly, or shoulder. Work on trying to make your drawings have more expressive body language.

>>3049466
Okay, if you have some purpose for it then it's fine. One other minor complaint is that the text is slightly hard to read, even on a big high res monitor. If you could find a way to make your handwriting slightly bigger or improve the scanner I'd love reading more of this. I'd recommend getting a flatbed scanner, they're pretty much the best when it comes to taking pictures of this kind of thing.

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>>3049466
Nice, you've gotten really good Chaby. You know it's because of your work that I started drawing in the first place

>>3049467
shhh, don't tell the malaysian I'm here
I'm making my comic for real this time :^)
>>3049470
the writing is just for my own reference right now, since I write the exact dialogue as I draft. the plan is to remove it and insert type
I found a scanner online with everything I need and it's coming eventually. The plan is to scan each panel before and after I attack it with watercolors, correct the colored version to have good saturation and white balance, then take the ink only version, increase the saturation so it's true black and put it on top, though I might not have to if the auto exposure on the scanner works well

>>3049475
Happy to see you're still around and drawing, wonder what that Chilean Anon is up to.

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I know the body and the arm looks wrong but can't quite pin it down. Can anyone help?

>>3049463
I'm curious, who are your influences?

>>3049479
I saw her try to troll mal a couple months ago, but she hasn't contacted me or posted anything in a year at least
we'll probably never know since she doesn't want any of her other online identities attached to her /pol/ activities, probably fot her career's sake
>can't destroy your reputation if you have none to begin with

>>3049481
Blog?

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>>3049468
Okay. I understand. I will repaint her torso...
Anything else anon?

>>3049486
fuck off.

>>3049481
Not really digging the fred flintstone knuckles there.

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>>3049489
git fockin rekt m8

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>>3049481
is she sitting?if her arm isn't bearing weight try something like this

>>3049483
I have a lot of background in traditional illustration, but as far as manga, hellsing, soul eater, and itou junji, with the latter being my favorite. I'm torn between the freedom of a more simple style like soul eater, hirano-san's eccentric empasis on clothes which I also tend to do, and the mastery of itou's work. I can't justify putting too much more effort into it since it's a current webcomic though, at least until I get faster

>>3049486
No blog for now. Still working on fundis/coloring/etc.

>>3049490
Yeah I need to work on hands.

>>3049496
I imagined her to be standing. Thanks for bluelining, the arm looks much more natural here when it's bent a little rather than straight down.

>>3049422
Might want to make them somewhat pointier as well, since rounded-off elfish ears have a kinda weird look to them.

Unless that's what you're going for

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anybody know of good cartoonists who do videos or tutorials? It feels like all the people i find kinda suck

I just want to do simple, cute stuff

>>3049548
Kienan Lafferty. He makes a pretty cartoony comic called Emma but he actually can also draw realistic concept art at a professional level. He works with Riot Games and has worked on games such as League of Legends so he knows what he is doing. If you wanna learn how to draw stylized characters and get a professional digital workflow, then he's the best guy to follow

>>3049548
You could always look for people on twitch too. Of course, you'd have to learn from watching rather than them dishing out a tutorial

>>3049548
sword blade is in wrong perspective

>>3049557
looks fine to me

>>3049555
looks cool, thanks!

>>3049556
I watch streams when i can, but usually I'm just busy doing other stuff when people decide to go on air

>>3049562
the blade looks like it's being viewed directly from the side even though the sword is tilted slightly upward. It's an old pic though so w/e

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>>3049471
here's a spicy christ chan just for you

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alright faggots time for the midterm assessment
>>3049584
>go back to /pol/
>>3049481
>take a reference photo from above of yourself using a selfie stick and see where you fucked up instead of trying to bullshit the perspective
>>3049463
>good comic skills
>>3049448
what the fuck are you doing...you barely gave her much of a neck, it would be kinda understandable from imagination but since you have a reference just use the methods in the sticky to copy the reference accurately faggot...I can tell you that you need to make her neck about 2 times longer
>>3049316
>good colors and decent facial proportions, lighting, anatomy, and gesture is all over the place
>>3049110
>loomis/10. now learn how to render
>>3049344
>best drawing on the thread so far. even the doodle on the left is good. a little static and would like to see how you change that torso.
>>3048907
2nd best drawing lots of detail in this piece looks almost professional. Finish these and you'll probably be the best here
>>3049548
>3rd best drawing. probably would be 1st if it weren't for the sword blade perspective being fucked and the colors being a bit bland, otherwise you have a much more dynamic pose than the elf guy
>>3049471
>sauce on the cutie plz

>>3049636
Why don't you do finished pieces

>>3049636
>everything but the colors look good. you seem to be experimenting with color but it seems like you don't actually know what you're doing. some areas look good the boy's red jacket but then parts of the purples scarf and areas on the hair look muddy due to either use of black or poor color choice. you seem to be able to draw,and the style seems to have been influenced by Yoshinari or Krenz but you lack the ability to color which isn't too hard to learn as compared to drawing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zbDVlDpIww
>i'm assuming this is as far as your rendering skills can go, if not then finish it and show us after you're done

>>3049635
>>3049640
That's not how you use greentext dumbass.

>>3049414
>>3049635
Thanks, guys. I need to study more lighting, gestures, anatomy and background. I almost never draw backgrounds so I suck on it. Thanks for pointing what is bad in it

So, I bought a graphic tablet (NEW 1060 PLUS) but I'll admit it I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed since this is all new to me, I've never drawn anything digital before, I was strictly drawing traditional before. I downloaded a bunch of programs to see whether everything was working as intended or not. I think I'll try to get good with Clip Studio Paint I think as I read good things about it.

Anyway, does anyone have any tips or advice? Like some sort of course, stuff I could read or whatever I could follow to reach a point where I more or less know what I'm doing? I don't mean drawing-wise but more like tool-wise. I'd just really like some tips, guidelines and advice if possible. Thanks.

>>3049892
I'd recommend using a stabilizer if you're having trouble getting the same lines.
Some people say it's a crutch, but they're pretty fucking stupid. It's a tool like anything digital. It doesn't teach you to draw poor lines, and it doesn't inhibit your skill on paper either. All it does is make the lines a little easier to draw since tablet are so oversensitive.

>>3049971
It won't help you that much tough. If you were doing shit lines before you'll still go shit lines with it. Stablizer removes the imperfections of lines you can get, kinda like 3D rendered lines., it lacks life.

>>3050025
If the art is good I doubt you're going to notice if they use stabilizers or not.

>>3050030
Nah, you still will, it's noticeable. Can still work but I definitely wouldn't advise to use it, I just find imperfect lines way more interesting to look at.

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>>3049892
Just keep drawing (not much else you can do anyway). You'll get used to drawing here while looking there in no time
Perhaps try starting your work in analogue then continue or finish in digital

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Decided to do these as warmups before I get to painting again. I noticed I do a lot of humans so I tried some robot/creature design to push me out of my comfort zone

>>3050121
i notice that most of your designs are human like. it seems like your visual library could benefit from studying insects and machinery parts and such

>>3050042
cute

>>3050121
How do you get your lines to look so immaculate?
I'm going need what brush you use anon

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I've been doing a lot of greyscale and plain sketches lately so I did a speedpaint to try and remember how colors work.

>>3050121
jesus christ, all fucking gay as hell. primus' front arm is very hard to see because it just fucking melts into the rest of the drawing, reaver's legs are fucking tiny, and his pose is super fucked, chaintooth is almost okay, except for the chainsaw dildo he has for a tail (fucking dumb as hell), orion is the best of them all, except for the shitty hands, and the weird halo, grimjack is just worse orion, screwshank and boris are both fucked as hell perspective wise, and they're the same fuckin thing with 1 less leg.

>>3050194
disgusting art style
were the plucked eyelashes and shaved eyebrows intentional or just an oversight?
learn to draw faces, necks, chests, arms, elbows, hips and legs (basically, anatomy) before colouring them
major props for drawing hands despite the style though
>speedpaint
work within your means

>>3050167
not that anon, but its less the brush and more often steady arms and good line control. often it's just your standard hard round brush

>>3050194
From the thumbnail it looks like she's doing that Aheago whatever its called that faggot that keeps changing faces into the sex ones.

>>3050208
jeez calm down his style isnt THAT bad.

>>3050219
It's terrible to look at.

>>3050208
That's not really helpful to the other anon.

>>3050226
What would be "helpful to the other anon" then? Certainly not your critique because lo and behold you haven't given one.

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>>3050194
Grin is too big, dude

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Started something, do what to do with the left hand. Will also look for wedding dress refs so he isn't wearing a tissue
>>3049636
Love your shit anon

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its not finished, but i dont really wanna work on it anymore right now...

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I took a reference pic and the perspective SHOULD be alright, but it looks strange for some reason.

>>3050326
The head isn't in the same perspective.

>>3049636

andrae <3

>>3050339
It's not: it's tilted up and to the side. It should line up with the ref.

You're free to do a draw over if you see something I don't.

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>>3050346
Here is a similar perspective shot drawing that does it right. Your looks too flat, the body is in a strong perfpective but not the head so it doesn't feel right.

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just critique my shit up

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>>3050360
why are you showing him a reference that uses curvilinear perspective
????

>>3050207
All right man, don't get too worked up I'm still a wee baby when it comes to character design. I do admit that I had the best ideas for Grimjack, Orion, and Chaintooth. I kinda forced the rest of them because I wasn't used to this kinda thing. I'm still used to people proportions so messing with different shapes and lengths were a challenge for me, so I'll try fixing the things you said.

>>3050167
I don't mean to insult the artist, but if you think those lines are immaculate, or even close to good, you need to get your eyes checked.

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>>3048907
Continuing.

>>3050388
>mirroring
into the trash it goes
>demon general general of the army
>general general
do you even know what the fuck a general is lmao

>>3050397
It's not mirroring, I'm just so skilled I draw with perfect symmetry. You jelly?

>>3050397
>demon general general of the army

It's two titles. Part of the four generals but also the main general that leads the army.

>>3050388
why is the hero so thicc and busty?

>>3050121
Get in the robot Shinji

>>3050402
Why not?

>>3050405
but why though

>>3050401
why is armrest lady missing the back of her head
did edgy guy go geronimo on her ass

>>3050397
>mirroring into the trash it goes

Dunning Kruger at its finest.

>>3050412
Oh fuck. Looks like she's a kappa.

I updated it, I didn't notice it.

>>3050414
>Dunning Kruger at its finest.
Hey look mom I learned a new word

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no more kappa woman.

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I never really finished this, but it was supposed to be a playing card. I was trying to do like an Alphonse Mucha/ Clamp inspired thing, but I don't know how well it works...

>>3050388
How do you do those volume implying lines like on the Demon King's abs? The sort of airbrushed look but still very controlled?

Also, I like the designs but I only really have two critiques. The fat general's stomach feels more like a pregnant woman's stomach with how taut it is, versus a real fat man with a similar build. Also, the hero's nips being visible is distracting to the point this looks more like a hentai doujin series. But that's definitely subjective.

>>3050434
First time here? That guy doesn't listen to critiques or advice. He just posts his shit till you're all sick of it.

>>3050438
>waaah people aren't following my word-of-god revelations unto them
lol fuck off Dunning-Kruger

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>>3050434
>How do you do those volume implying lines like on the Demon King's abs? The sort of airbrushed look but still very controlled?

I'm doing it with Soft round brush + smudge tool.

> The fat general's stomach feels more like a pregnant woman's stomach with how taut it is

Yeah, it's supposed to be very exaggerated, not like It comes from nowhere, was kinda inspired by Wyzen from Asura's Wrath and Smough from Dark Souls

>>3050445
Oh, thanks! I overthought it and assumed you were using lasso tools and airbrushes and everything. And at a second glance, his design does look intentional enough in that intimidating guy with a grotesquely big beer belly look.

>>3050450
> assumed you were using lasso tools and airbrushes and everything.
Nah, it's pretty straightforward, I overall always use those two tools do draw everything actually. Though a bit less of smudge since those are sketches.

And yeah, there were already lots of well shaped muscular guys so differentiating him with an exaggerated beer belly works well I think, since he's also the older one of the bunch.

>>3050370
omg where do you get all these cute pictures>>>??

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>>3049584
Thank you!

>>3050404
Yeah I admit, I'm a huge evangelion fan. :)
>>3050207
I fixed Reaver Chaintooth and Orion but I kept the halos because I had a purpose behind it. Don't know what you meant about the pose, so I left it as it is. I was too lazy to fix the perspective on Screwshank and Boris so I bullshitted it the best I could. I kinda just fucked around with adding white lines for Primus at the end. You can add more critiques if you want but now I really gotta get back to painting and grinding my studies out.

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>>3050477
Damnit, forgot the file because I couldn't get in the damn robot

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does anyone have tips for making something seem transparent, I'm trying to create a character with transparent skin but its looking fucky

>>3049635
>implying >>3048907 is the 2nd best drawing in the thread
get your eyes checked senpai
the fancy shading in that elf painting shouldn't cover up the wonky anatomy

>>3050417
butthurt at its finest. Just accept your loss, scrub.

>>3050233
Wew fella the original definitely has issues but that's not an improvement. You just changed the face style to your own, and made the proportions worse.

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wish i could contribute more,

got stuck the the little details and took too much time again

>>3050710
>isis

>>3050194
face style reminds me of early solopipb vifroz

>>3050433
I like it! I can imagine it in water colours.
your art looks a little sloppy and inconsistent in some areas, but the overall piece has a dreamy feel.
not much to add except those zigzaggy hair highlights look pretty weird and to study how fabric flows/frills fold.

>>3050233
>does nothing but make the features more animu
please don't listen to that guy, >>3050194, the grin WAS a little extreme, but didn't need to be changed that much.

>>3050408
because its sexy you ass
Why would anybody make any character busty? Curvy? BECAUSE ITS SEXY GOD DAMNIT WHY DO YOU EVEN QUESTION HIM

>>3050289
Head seems a little big.

>>3050388
The Army general is hard to read.

Just because he's male doesn't mean you should make every muscle of his so defined. Clean him up more like the blue female character, especially given his smaller scale.

>>3050791
its his habit to make 90% of the clothes he draw fucking rubber where you can see every little crease through it.

>>3050791
> The Army general is hard to read.

His design you mean? Intended to work some more on it, his outfit isn't totally defined yet.

As for the muscles, well, see it that way, they're supposed to be the elite of a physically strong race.

>>3050798
I was referring to his rendering in this case
>they're supposed to be the elite of a physically strong race.
You can show muscle without the need of shading every single thing. It just comes off as messy sometimes.

>>3050433
master level hand-and-feet-hiding, hair looks really flat. Think of it in terms of forms, not as one big form.

>>3050484
layer transparency

>>3050710
Your shading seems pretty nonsensical in places, especially the nose. If that isn't shading on the nose then you're channeling tumblr, which is worse. Otherwise, love that style.

>>3050793
you didn't finish painting their right eye.

>>3050797
Stay jelly lmao

>>3050807
Rightside eye or their actual right eye?

>>3050807
Oh yeah im so jelly of the overused rubber clothing he uses. I really like my pictures to have physics detached for reality. Isnt immersion breaking at all.#
He or you can draw quite well although his colors really suck sometimes, they are so hard on the eye from time to time.
But his habit is just what it is, a bad habit, and it doesnt add anything, might as well make them naked, if you really want to emphasize it in that way.
Sometimes the hidden is more intriguing than the actual thing that is hidden.

>>3050807
>nonsensical in places, especially the nose.
Are you serious? Its nowhere near tumblr tier of nose shading.

>>3050809
>their right eye
their right, your left. The eyelids stop above the eyeball for some reason.

>>3050811
>I really like my pictures to have physics detached for reality. Isnt immersion breaking at all.#
No shit, you're in the stylization general. Calm down and stop smashing your fists on the keyboard you autist.

>>3050823
Semantics; it's still nose shading for the sake of nose shading.

>>3050833
Oh, thanks. They've got monolids, but leaving that little shadow does look like I forgot to finish creased lids.

>>3050838
no, the bottom lid too. It looks like an animal's eye more than a human's.

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the proportions are all fucked but i wanted to finish it at least

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>>3050839
Is this better?

>>3050856
better.

>>3050857
Thanks for the crit!

>>3050710
B l o g

>>3050807
Lmao master level hand-and-feet-hiding, I love it lol.

>>3050933
lol cute stuff, specially love the top right one.

>>3050933
do you have any finished pieces?

>>3051103
>asking people to finish their work
h-how cruel

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>>3050366
>no critique
fuck it, this'll do

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>>3050257
>actually finished the line art in a day
what is this odd sense of achievement
>>3050388
really like it, anon. Blog?

>>3050388

I love the big belly general and maybe the big booby general. Big belly looks he can kill everyone with a sneeze. For me non of the other character is on par with big belly.

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a design- thoughts?

>>3049640
Are you really that stupid? You're the one who should learn more about color, if you just like shitty saturated garbage.

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>>3051545
"shitty saturated garbage"

get lost kid.

>>3050042
what is your blog anon can I see more of your sketches

>>3051704
I really like it for some weird reason...

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>>3050208
>>3050222
>>3050230
damn, you having a bad day anon? Or do you always act like a condescending little bitch?
You have every right to dislike the style, but YOU certainly didn't give a 'critique', and it obvious.
Now let me show you how a condescending asshole gives a critique.

>were the plucked eyelashes and shaved eyebrows intentional or just an oversight?

Have you taken note of this artists overall style? If so, you can come to the conclusion that they more than likely intentionally simplified these features and spent no more than a couple hours on this piece. It's not even a finished piece so why would assume this anime-esque art would have included eyelashes and more realistic eyebrows? Surely you noticed the lining around the eyebrow as well(Indicating it was INTENTIONALLY made to be thin)

>learn to draw faces, necks, chests, arms, elbows, hips and legs (basically, anatomy) before colouring them

So here it looks like you tried to point out the anatomy mistakes, but really all you did was list off body parts. I believe you worded this sentence specifically to try and prolong what you actually were saying, which was "Learn anatomy before coloring"
It's already a given that this artist is working on their anatomy since the first fucking sentence in this thread is "This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make anime works in-between their studies"
But you're not the type to read or analyze much, are ya?

>major props for drawing hands despite the style though

I'm guessing you tried to end your 'critique' with an ass-backwards compliment, so good for you! At least you tried!

Asshole like you only destroy an artist's drive to continue improving, even if you're just here to waste time and bait people.
So work within your means and fuck off.

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Critique?

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Thoughts?

>>3051704
This is a cool style, but the cankles look on the left goes a little too overboard for my taste. But I like the chunky Chris Sanders-esque proportions.

>>3051529
needs more, add shadows

>>3051765
thanks mate, crit appreciated

>>3051761

good badonkadonk right there

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>>3051761
Made some minor changes. Would still like to know if there's any major defects before I move on.

>>3051783
I think you see more of her crotch from that angle and her left knee looks a lil janky.

>>3051778
No problem. Bekkaliyev's most extreme stylization of the ankle blending into the calf/foot would be a good ref to look at if you still want to push that style, by the way.
>https://www.artstation.com/artwork/KVVP9

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sketches

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am i late to the party

>>3051730
>This is how /co/mblr thinks
NGMI, get off this website. All the time you spent writing that could have been spent drawing.

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Made a doggo.

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>>3050933
i love this SO MUCH

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bayodoodle

>>3051881
AHH BLOG??

>>3050388
More of Red and Blue there

maybe a bit more hero

blog?

def more Red that hammer is cool, he's cool

blue is now Lieutenant General
and grey is Major General
this looks/sounds less retarded instead of calling them all General

thanks

>>3050710
I wish you would contribute less

This doesn't look much different than anything you've done before, the faces are still all the same and the bodies too, don't put random tumblr rash or shading on noses

ham

>>3051412
Pay more attention to lines especially when "connecting" them. You want to make sure your lines create a nice flow, so don't allow your lines to fade/thin out just as they're about to connect to another line.

>>3051863
This is technically good enough that I would really urge you to spend more time on building a great pose that supports the narrative even better.

Of course this one's done, but in the future.

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Added another character.

>>3051507
>>3051898
> Big belly looks he can kill everyone with a sneeze
> def more Red that hammer is cool, he's cool

I find it pretty fucking hilarious on hindsight, until this week he was always the "4th random general to fill in" in my mind, but now that I redesigned him properly I feel like I almost made him too impressive looking.

> this looks/sounds less retarded instead of calling them all General

Well, they does are supposed to be of the same rank. I initially wanted to call them the "four heavenly kings" like how the 4 bosses under the demon king tends to be called, but I find that title more impressive than the demon king one so I didn't keep it and began using military ranks instead.
As I mentioned before, belly red, blue, grey and another one are of the same rank (highest one under the demon king), though grey also leads the whole army and is as such a bit more important, while the 4th one is considered the demon king's right hand but doesn't do much leading wise.

>>3051439
>>3051898
For my blog you can search for TheGoldenSmurf on either Deviantart/Tumblr/Pixiv depending on what you prefer. Twitter too, I tends to post more wips (like that chart) on it.

>>3051917
desu, the big belly guy looks the scariest of them all and he should be the king imo.
He looks like some hindu deity.
Nevertheless really cooll work.

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>>3051917
How can I togashi?

>>3051930
>He looks like some hindu deity.

It's the back symbol partially. I wanted to equilibrate things a bit since his overall look had a very orc-ish/barbaric inspiration.

>>3051934
>Togashi

fucking hack, this asshole is lazy and half the time literally allows jump to published sketch shit like his latest hunter x hunter chapter

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>>3051955
>sketch shit
>latest chapter
you haven't seen the latest chapters I take it.

>>3051958
>not posting the Hisoka art on purpose

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>>3051978
If you're referring to brick nose Hisoka that's last year's chapters, it's about the Princes/nenbeasts now.

>>3051917
im glad that you decided to take off the grey ones shirt instead of turning his shirt into rubber again

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>>3051762
Perspective on this is really weird, the legs taper really fast and to a really exaggerated degree which makes me think you tried to make a dynamic overhead foreshortening shot but then fucked it up.Also, the foreshortening on the left arm doing the middle finger does not read as foreshortening and instead looks like she has a really short upper arm and a monstrously long forearm. The creature on the right has terrible hands and the right shoulder seems to have been completely forgotten about. Speaking of torsos, the other girl's shirt doesn't behave how cloth would and is way too stiff and her trapezius muscles are connecting to the shoulder in a weird way, probably a perspective issue.

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>used to post my early works in these threads
>people think i'm just shitposting so they kept saying im doing good
>don't believe any of that shit
>8 months in, improved a lot, but still not good enough
This is my best work from last month. I've gone downhill from that point on though, after I switched to using a smaller phone.

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>>3051868
thank you, i found your twitter and site and i absolutely adore you style!

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>>3052194
aahhh i feel so honored, thank you so much! i followed you back everywhere, love your stuff!

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I need help with this. I feel like I made a lot of mistakes, but I can't pinpoint them. I'm still /beg/-tier but I wanted to try something stylized for a change.

>>3052194
>>3052211
kill yourselves.

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>>3051439
Delivered. Any thoughts to reflect on?

Also, I notice a very visible difference between the colours on my phone and the ones on my old laptop. Is this normal?

>>3052238
Yeah, that's normal. Did you check if they're set to a different brightness level?

>>3052238
Yup, laptop screens are terrible for accurate color presentation, save up for a monitor

>>3051917
Big belly on men isn't like that. It's too saggy and more akin to a pregnant woman. Seriously, if you raise it up and don't have it cut off underneath his chest it would look far more masculine.

It's barely noticable, but the amount of ribcage on the right side? That little bit? Just get rid of it and replace it with round stomach. Raise the belly button a little and you're good to go

>>3051817
/co/mblr?

I don't think you're old enough to be here, anon.

>>3052268
No. I think his round belly looks fine the way it is. I was inspired by other figures of muscular men with big bellies and that makes it okay.

>>3052276
>makes post as the artist in an ironic attempt to ignore a critique

Anon do you really have nothing better to do?

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>>3052268
Oh yeah, should just have looked at IRL extreme cases of beer beely to begin with, the ribcage part does doesn't works. I'm not really sure if the tits should be as pushed up if the guy is still supposed to be muscular but I guess I could redo them like in that photo too.

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>>3052285
Even if you wanna make him strongfat it won't matter much. If he's got saggy tits then that's fine but pecs won't push down a beer belly. They just kind of... Exist on top of one another?

Fat and muscle aren't intertwined, they're their own layers. So even though fat might spill around fat, the muscle underneath won't be too altered. That's why a big belly will make the tits spread, but not pecs.

This guy's probably not as fat as you want, but it's a good example of what happens. Sorry for the dick but you get the idea.

>>3051917
shoulders look kinda awkward on all of them, like they're pulling their arms back, it's a very feminine pose so it looks weird on the three guys

>>3052285
Jesus christ I think I almost got diabetes just looking at that guy. How the fuck is this guy alive and smiling?

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Some yodel on here convinced me I suffered from loomishead so now i don't even konstrukt or erase. Down here we all float. Can /ic/ fap to this?

>>3052352
No.
but if you learned some perspective it might float my boat

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>>3049344
Her left shoulder is lower than the right one, so naturally her left elbow should be lower than her right one, but instead they're about the same height, which makes the left arm look smaller. I'm not sure if I explained myself correctly so I'll leave an image. Hope it helps and good luck!

>>3052294
holy fuck, fuck you for ruining my life and my bro's life for the next 30 years.

>>3052483
>yotsuba board
>not expecting nudes
>browsing 4chan in front of people

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>>3052405
Hey, you're right. I'm a little high now so this probably won't make you happy tho. Don't mix perspective with recreational drug use!

>>3052592
DUDE

>>3052483
I warned you about the dick. If that's all it takes to ruin your life, then I don't know what to say to you.

This one's kind of on you.

>>3051899
Not the artist but I wish you would disappear.

Notice the dude has a shitload of reply on everything he posts. Meanwhile you sit and birch.

Post your work lame ass.

>>3051899
fuck off

ham is bae

>>3051762
>>3052069
>samefagging a post from /trash/
Nigga that's almost as pathetic as critiquing art on /trash/

>>3052476
Couple things.

If you want to go for the hair over the eye look, make sure the hair covers the entire eye. Don't do the DeviantART hair-flip where it looks like she just has skin. Either draw the other eye or have the curls cascade down her entire cheek with no "negative" space.

As far as that hand, I have problems with hands, too. Longer fingers and nails will make it look far more elegant, and don't feel like you have to show the entirety of each finger. Have some cut off from perspective is perfectly acceptable.

If you want to keep the colors of the dress and shoes, I suggest you darken the hair. It's too intense to look good and the whole thing looks sloppy. But if you want to keep that hair color, making the dress white with gold trim would help that color scheme out IMMENSELY. And gold wristclasps might not be a bad idea, either, especially if you want long, lanky arms.

Speaking of accessories, you've got a steel/iron/silver moon going on... And a gold pendant. It's usually not a good idea to mix different color metals together unless they're touching (like different bangles). Choose one metal and stick with it. If you have an incredibly complicated costume idea (which I didn't get from this but whatever) then use both of those metals in other places of your character's costume. It looks awkward otherwise.

I like the way you feet. There's some calf issues going on on the left (our side) but the feet look proportionate and well-placed. Glad you didn't cop out on them like a lot of people do.

>>3051704
I need your blog. We need to be friends. Like
>now

>>3051802
Hello there fishy boi

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>>3051704
the left one looks almost like a trace of this one

>>3053132
Shut up jealous faggot, i'm not tracing.

>>3048913
Wasapening?

>>3053153
>Shut up jealous faggot, i'm not tracing.
Autism?

seriously though tracing was probably the wrong word what i meant was they are very similar.

>>3053290
>calls anon autistic
>Uses completely wrong word to describe what they're trying to say
>can't use proper words
>calls someone else autistic

Dude, just shut the fuck up.

>>3051704
faces look ugly as shit

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>>3052439
Thanks for actually giving me a useful critique. I tried to change the torso to something more dynamic but ending up keeping it as it would probably not be worth the time. I noticed I naturally tilted her shoulders which added a little interest to the piece but I wasn't sure why it wasn't working correctly but once I just adjusted the lengths to match the blue line tilt it seemed to work. I've pretty much moved on from this throwaway piece but if you have some more advice I'd love it man

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I feel like my output is way too slow, so trying to do more sketches.

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>>3052676

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Sir Lady Jesus

>>3053551
>big tiddies
i see you are improving senpai

>>3053520
That Roll is adorable. Where do i find your art.

>>3053132
You're right it's Damn near identical Lol

BUSTED

Wow one of my drawing was used by the op, that make me blush
I don't know what to draw, I have 2 month until I start my art school, I'm bored af

>>3053669
take requests; those dorks on /v/ require you

>>3053700
Ok ask me anything

>>3053571
I don't put my art up anywhere, sorry.

>>3053669
Try out fulfilling requests in drawthreads:

>>>/v/383415753
>>>/a/159559613
>>>/a/159515233
>>>/cgl/9535444
>>>/co/93669628

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Continuing, two more done and one other in progress.

>>3053734
Thx

>>3053551
The breasts are too far up her chest

>>3053767
Is this for some kind of comic or something? If so, I think you're making most of the characters overdesigned

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How is this considering this is my very first time using Photoshop with a mouse, i took a photo of the drawing i made and then colored it digital

Come on, destroy my already low selfsteem

>>3053915
hit the fundies, kid

>>3053915
Don't hide the arms like that, it's lazy. The shoulders and arms are totally fucked up, go study how arm muscles work. The ears are way too small.

>>3053888
You do know what a corset is, right? Push up bra?

>>3053924
Yeah, i did it based on a reference, i admit it was really lazy hiding them like that, i will keep practicing the fundies like everyone else here
>The ears are way too small
I cann't even argue this because there is nothing to say, they are WAY too small

>>3053915
Well the eyes aren't matching the left is fine while the right is janked, but that's an easy fix desu

You've got the right idea with the breasts but the shirt is over-exaggerated so widen the lining of the shirt that out lines them

your neck is just a tree body, and thats fine in situations where that general area isn't emphasized make it look more natural by widening the bottom part and make it look more connected to the body

honestly these are all things you can learn easily through learning muscle anatomy

Remember, the best anime-style artists still had to learn the human body and proportions before they were able to exaggerate them, which is why are able to do it more consistently and with quality results

TL;DR Fundamentals first, style second but keep in mind what you want you style to be for when you get it right

>>3053937
Holy shit, god bless you anon, i will literally keep this info on a notepad, how should i proceed about practicing muscle anatomy, Loomis or just google it?

>>3053940
actually i've been looking around myself for a good anatomy on the subject but i've had difficulty finding one. if you have any luck i'd love to know

>>3053940
Same anon but i'd also recommend reading this

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

it's what 4chan calls the "big sticky' it'll show you the basics of a lot of useful art concepts
I'd advise that you take a look even if you aren't looking to do any of the fancy-schmancy stuff, you'll be surprised as to what can still be applied to stylized art. i'll come back if i find anything

>>3053946
I have been going with Loomis and reference sheets i have found in multiple sites, obviously i am still shit at it but if i find something better i will post it in /beg/ since this thread isn't really dedicated to anatomy practices

>>3053953
I appreciate it my good man, and just like with anything in life getting better requires long hard work and dedication. so keep an open mind and a steady hand

>>3053952
I have read the sticky a few times and i have to admit that i fail to follow everything the sticky says, i take art as a hobby and would like to get better at it just for the sake of drawing cool stuff basically, although i do follow Loomis (it started being a meme but it is useful indeed)
Thanks again tho, i have been lurking /ic/ for a few months and you are one of very few anons that give actual useful and constructive critique

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>>3053958
Not a problem, it was nice to help. Don't strain yourself to hard now you hear?

>>3053546
Hair definitely looks better this way.

>>3054030
Thanks

>>3053915
your lines suck, if you're taking pencil sketch into photoshop do this first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWTdVE8DrIE

>>3053307
Is this.... who I think it is?
If it really is mikufag holy shit dude you've come a long way.

>>3054147
after all this time still making such ridiculously rookie mistakes? I almost feel bad for you.
>almost

>>3054154
redline it

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Been staring at it too long, can't see mistakes anymore.
Please help.

>>3054147
do you have a blog i love your faces

>>3054157
draw the rest of the body

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How's this? I'm gonna -attempt- to ink it and color this in two different styles. One is gonna use a brush and the other is the typical digital art way I do.

>>3054157
I'm not too sure, but the right eye looks a little too low compared to the left eye. Beyond that it looks really good~ ^^

>>3053925
No not really I'm a fucking autist on 4chan what do you expect

>>3054147
Guys, can you please tell me something?

Am I going to lose my fucking arm?

Why do you keep painting the White Cat with a damaged left arm?

Is it because of my cut?


I want to go home...

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>>3054157
Pic related, if you only take one suggestion please ...please shorten the distance between the bottom of her nose and upper lip. Also sorry for the messy edit I'm testing astropad with a borrowed macbook pro and my ipad and it is quite dissapointing.

>>3054159
firez-tbr.tumblr.com
firez-da.deviantart.com

thanks

>>3054199
really like how you did the nose on the drawing

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>>3054199
>>3054174

Thanks for the feedback.
Tinkered with it a bit more, but im still unsatisfied.
gonna give it one more layer of line work and see if it cleans up any.

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>>3052820
Thanks a lot, dude!

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how do you work when you just want to doodle shit, anon? Thick brushes? Thin brushes? High stabilizer? No stabilizer? I can never decide what works

>>3054391
My usual setup, being a normal pencil/pen brush and no stabilizer.

>>3054391
>I can never decide what works

It's not like there is one best solution. All of those can work.

>>3054394
There's no universal best solution of course, but at the very least there's probably a personal best solution. Replacing things that 'can work' with things that DO work is what improvement is all about, I'm just wondering if anyone has tried things yet that I haven't so I can learn from them

Though I guess it's less of a matter of what you use, than how you use it. Too bad I can't decide on that either

>>3054391
Personal preference for thicker first to lay down form then thinner for details

>>3054391
ehhh the pic hurts my eyes with the blur why would anyone do that?

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i drew a guy, but i think he's a bit boring. i don't know what to do about it.


>>3054391
i like the chubby frankenlady, would cuddle

>>3054493
because even if it's kinda ugly, it's super-easy to draw with

>>3054964
b-but that is cheating!

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>>3054997
explain how

>>3055000
checked.
Intentionally obscuring the image to make it look better is cheating, just like hiding the hands because you are bad at them, just at a more fundamental level.

>>3055006
It doesn't make the image look better though, I literally just admitted that it looks kinda ugly. But using a wide, soft brush makes it difficult to work cleanly and intricately so that I don't waste time stressing out over making everything perfect.

Perfectionism during the sketch phase is one of my biggest issues, Im really just here looking for ideas on how to fix it

>>3054493
>>3055000
When trying to draw a line, it helps to throw down a few until you find which one looks right. This is the same priniciple.
A thick line is just a bunch of lines together. Your brain will interpret the "correct" line from those lines.
The thicker the line, the more chances you have at drawing the "correct" line in it. Blurring is just another way of doing thicker lines, and leaving more up to the brain's ability to idealize what it sees.

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something i just did

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My first proper digital work. I'm not that great at it obviously, but progress is progress.

>>3055054
color theory

>>3055054
boy size it down a little bit next time. It took my 50k internet connection more than 2 seconds to load it, that size is too much to handle for Firefox.

>>3055055
I was kind of going for that with the yellow light vs. the purple jacket, but I should probably study it more. Thanks dude.

>>3055057
Sorry m8, I totally forgot that I was working at that resolution.

>>3055064
I meant more of the color temperature aspect, don't just shade/highlight with a darker/lighter hue

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designing a character for a lewd Halloween animation.

>>3054147
The pose feels stiff more than anything else. Based on how well you've already defined the gear on her left arm, I'd imagine you want to make that a focal point right? In which case you might wanna have her right hand interacting with that instead of fiddling with her robe.

In general, I think one aspect of sketching you might want to work on is where you place your focus. You went and made a super detailed armor piece while 70% of the piece is still in a sketched state, like you're still not quite sure where you want to take the piece. To save a lot of headaches in the future, it's probably way easier to denote complicated objects using simple shapes, and to define it much later in the process. This way, you can make some pretty major changes without feeling like you've just deleted a lot of work.

For instance, my previous suggestion of having her right hand interacting with her left armor piece, you'd have to change the position of her left arm as well, and probably the shoulders and even the back as well. It's a lot easier (mentally, anyways) to do major changes like that if you haven't locked yourself into something by drawing a lot of details early on.

>>3055096
Would spank

>>3055096
>lewding the witches
No, but big yes to everything else. You have a really clean approach to shapes and lines. Do you do an undersketch, or can you visualize the forms as you go along enough to go straight to the line art?

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What do you think?

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>>3055194
Thanks. I've been trying to emulate the animators' twitter sketches to an extent (pic related).

I usually draw something rough at first and then continually hack at it until it looks decent. I can't go straight into linework just yet.

>>3054511
Watch the ankle placement.
If he's standing flat on both feet his ankles should be at the same height.
His right foot (our left) is a little too high.

>>3055096
right arm is a little on the long side.
other than that I like the line work!

>>3055281
im pretty sure thats supposed to be the fabric hanging down as these witches wear pretty lose garment.

>>3055282
When you look at the source material it very clear where the elbow starts even with the excess fabric.

>>3055096
This looks like a really long elbow in comparison

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>>3055289
A picture might help

>>3055289
Thanks for the pic btw, but I think that the main issue is the way he drew the sleeve. It should end right after her elbow in that case to show that it slid down. But the character itself doesnt have a really good resemblance to the real one. But I still really like the picture.

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>>3055281
>>3055282
>>3055289
>>3055290
>>3055298
Changed the arm and shortened the broom a little bit.

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tatsuyuki tanaka put me in this xmas mood...

>>3055084
>>3054206
Thanks anons

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How the FUCK do you colour your lineart in krita? Multiply makes light shit muddy.

>>3055448
Draw on the artwork layer with "alpha lock" enabled

>>3055334
fucking adorable

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point me out to mistakes or something that i need to fix before i go on draw

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Basically first time rendering. I've never spent so much time on something, so I'm blind to any flaws it has. Help me out by pointing out these flaws. Please and thank you

>>3056383
>tfw it's still better than anything you've done

>>3056383
Ever heard of "pillow shading"? It's what you're doing right now.
Her left arm is too short, and learn some fucking hand anatomy holy shit

also her face is fucked up something something loomis meme

>>3056468
damn I seen the term a lot but I only now googled it, and holy shit you're right almost everything is "pillow shaded' As for her arm I tried to do some forshortening meme but I fucked up. That I'll have to study.

Can you maybe tell me what's wrong with her face though? I literally don't see it, maybe I would change the nose but idk

>>3052216
Your getting this creepy feel because you're heavily styling one aspect of the character but trying to keep everything else anatomically correct. Your best bet would be to study shirtless cartoons or create your own logic of what should be what and ask for more critique then.

>>3056530
Long as fuck torso

>>3056080
tiny head

>>3056802
Yep. Long torso, long arms, long legs. Evangelion designs were amazing.

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>>3048901
I just realized that I have already built an incredibly in depth universe for a story to be told. I also realized that people have already been taking my ideas.

Feels bad.

>>3053940
>>3053946
I asked the same thing a week or so ago and was recommended Classic Human Anatomy by Valerie Winslow. I really, really like it, so you could always check it out. Otherwise there's also Anatomy for Sculptors, it's also nice but I prefer Winslow's because she explains everything and doesn't only rely on images.

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More coloring tests, why is coloring so hard

>>3057077
also how2render cum

>>3057077
baldie's torso and shoulders look so fucked up that I can't help but think the gril is referenced, is that so?

>>3057092
I'll admit i shouldn't have cut off the dude where i did but no the girl isn't ref'd

I want to go home.
I want to be a pretty princess.

Why won't you end this already? Why won't you just get it on with? I'm so fucking bored.

>>3057141
you creep. Go lock urself up in a mental asylum

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>>3057495

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>>3057526
I'm a kitty, meow.

Space Kitty. I come from the Moon.

For real though, I'm not a real human. I'm a synthetic person. This is how they can do this. I'm not a person in the eye of the law. I'm property. I wasn't born, I was built. My memories were implanted.

I don't know how old I am. I don't know at which point I was put into service. I'm starting to think it was around 2010. Maybe the old me died? Overdosed possibly? Or the plane crashed? I don't know, but I'm not him. I'm someone else. Something else.