Stop this.

America is becoming more degenerative every year, im so glad im leaving this country

>>3047749
Political indoctrination camps, huh?

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So while they're training on being "sensitive" we'll be the cool dudes actually getting ahead.

>>3047768
Someone needs to take punctuation and grammar lessons.

>>3047769
gay people can't write, anon.

>>3047770
I seriously can't understand what he's trying to say though.

Welcome to current comics. Marvel tried this the last couple of years and their sales are plummeting.

>>3047749
Well, there go my plans for publishing through Image.

>>3047749
>Image comics
HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE YOU FUCKING NIGGER, I WAS GONNA PUBLISH MY FUCKING COMIC THROUGH IMAGE.
I'M LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO PUBLISH 2 ISSUES BY 2018.
DOES THIS MEANS THAT I HAVE TO INSERT BULLSHIT IDENTITY POLITICS IN MY STORY?

NIGGER, FUCK THIS WORLD.

The last american publisher I still respected.

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>>3047875

Man if only Marvel had some sort of revenue stream that wasn't based on comic sales- so much revenue that their comics were more of a niche that functioned as advertisements and demos for ideas.

Oh well.

>>3047752
theres literally nowhere better

grow up

Is this literally because of the Chaykin cover?
Are they trying to save face and appease all the twitter outrage with this seminar?

omfg image is the only company i read.

>>3047923
i was an immigrant anyway
my home country may have worse standards of living but at least i wont constantly feel like an outsider
this "cultural diversity" that millenials are so strongly advocating is such vapid pretentious bullshit. ok we get it, people are different, but for the sake of our children, keep your degeneracy behind close doors. i wouldnt want my son to see guys kissing and think that its ok. i wouldnt want my daughter exposed to porn at age 7 or whatever age they discover internet, bestiality, transgender, obesity-acceptance, ugh i could go on but i simply dont want to.
It is even harder to find a (loyal) wife here, cause in america, half of them are black, half of whats left are sluts, half of that are covered with tattoos, half of THAT are lesbians, half of THAT are ugly or malformed, and whats left are most certainly gold diggers, cause they know they are the minority and worth something.

>>3047749
Fuck that's sad. Why is the comics industry going to shit? It was supposed to be the videogames that fell first

>>3047908
That's mostly Disney lad.

>>3047908
Disney movies =/= Marvel comics

>>3047749
Image Comics making the mistake of trying to please SJWs.

What they don't understand is that SJWs will not be happy until the entire universe ceases to exist.

And even then, if they could still be conscious in such a state. They would till not be happy.

They don't even read comics. All that they are after is to destroy everything they don't like and they don't like anything, so they destroy everything.

https://teammoonstruckcomic.tumblr.com/post/162553978967/moonstruck-our-statement-on-howard

>2. We will do what we can to effect change within Image itself so that in the future, books like “Divided States” aren’t even considered for publication. We invite Chaykin and anyone else who works for or at Image to attend a Trans 101 webinar hosted by an LGBTQ community center and paid for by the Moonstruck team. In a productive conversation we had with Image publisher Eric Stephenson, he wholeheartedly endorsed this webinar and has been nothing but enthusiastic about attending and urging others to attend. We hope to start an ongoing conversation about responsible representation in Image comics. Furthermore, per Eric, Image is currently seeking out additional cultural competency training, which we agree is a positive step.
>3. We implore Image to pledge to hire more trans people and people of color for their staff and pledge to actively reach out to and recruit trans creators and creators of color.
Go fuck yourself.

Why can't companies understand like in video games and comics these vocal people that all one change as soon as there is change they won't buy the product. They just want change for change sake

>>3047888
YES!!!!! NOW EMBRACE THE GAY!!!!!!!!

>>3048073
In this case, the person pressuring Image is a maker of one of their own comics, as seen: >>3048069
They just happento be backed by a bunch of twitter outrage that makes their screaming sound all the louder.

>>3048069
According to the summary Divided States sounds like something that actually meshes well with the SJW agendas, so this is a bit confusing

>>3048080
I calmed my tits.
I contacted my lawyer. She said Image isn't available to discuss legal requirements at this point.

My pulp Bruce Lee/Usagi Yojimo rip-off is in a stalemate.

Fuck. This. Gay. earth.
;_;

>>3047749
>/ic/ - comics and discussion

>>3048073
PR damage control sadly take precedence over logic these days. Especially when social media can magnify the outrage from a vocal minority into an rolling storm capable of collateral damage. Submitting and conceding quickly with the hope that the rage will die down quickly and contained is comparatively better than standing your ground and letting the fire taint the general perception of your operation. Ain't smart in the long run, but what can you do?

>>3048090
Most of the outrage is about a particular scene in the first issue where a trans prostitute getting beat on when his patrons find his package. The weird thing is that said scene ends with the trans character gunning down his assailants (and getting arrested) with a monologue about the "trap defense" and how shit it is. It's as if the people complaining haven't actually read the comic or are purposely overlooking the subtext.....

>>3048092
This actually sucks anon. Hope you are still able to live out your vision. Do you have to attend the Webinar too?

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>>3047923
Yeah, dude, I love paying for medical bills and education, damn son this is the home of the free
GOD BLESS AMERICA

no but if you l i t e r a l l y think there's no where better you haven't even looked, work on your global fundies you cuck

>>3048185
get a job you dweeb

>>3048185
>calls people cucks
>defends eurostan, cucknadia, ausfailia, or some third world shithole
wew

>>3048069
its like they want to hire people based on their fucking "identity", not their actual skill

makes my blood boil, I hope respected studios dont actually pay attention to this shit

>>3048185
Not everything is given to you, but your shitty parents never informed you of that, right?

>>3047749
>edgy SJW faggot draws "sympathetic" dindu and tranny literally murdering whites because muh privilege
>gets eaten alive by other subdivisions of the cult for clashing with their particular angle
no, please keep doing this until the whole horrible entity devours itself

>>3047875

Because that's the thing with the sjw crowd, they will scream at the top of their lungs about inclusion yet they don't even buy the media that they bitch, about even of they have their way and every character and their mom has 52 genders and fucks anything with a hole except the opposite sex.

>>3047982
Jesus christ you can't make this shit up.

>>3047749
So... Tell me why people are getting up in arms about this?

I'm looking at this from a purely business perspective, and I suggest you all do the same. It's a staff training program and seminar. Fuck, it's not even that, it's this bastardization called "webinar". They hold these all the time. Sexual harassment, workplace bullying, and all those other stupid fucking 'tolerance' lectures that have no impact on anyone but the interns.

If anyone thinks that this company, this BUSINESS is doing this for any other reason other than PR and legal reasons (because apparently anyone can sue over anything today)... You're just not all there. What, do you sincerely believe that an announcement about a 'webinar' means that all of you published with this company (that exists to make money, as all good businesses should) are going to have to shove in 2017-PC messages/characters/plots? That they would stifle (good) creative, marketable creative license for an audience they are JUST NOW pandering to?

What other group gets their panties in a bunch over nonsense that means nothing and "oppresses them"? Hmm.

Tl;dr: Until the company posts on Twitter that they're only posting 100% LGBT comics, you faggots are reacting to literally nothing. Turn off the internet and get back to work.

>>3047923
>>3048204
Norway, Finland, Switzerland, Poland, the Baltic states, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Singapore
...are not all perfect, but objectively better than Burgerland.

>>3048228
Yeah, like opportunity for example.

>>3048381
all those have huge taxes
fuck that

>>3048397
hmm I wonder why they all have such high standard of living

but yeah you have a point, places like that aren't the greatest if you're trying to make a living by any sort of freelancing. I'm from finland and it's not even clear if crowdfunding through a site like patreon is strictly speaking legal here. You have to be very careful to not run afoul of fundraising laws if you're collecting funds as an individual. The government basically hates small-time entrepreneurs and would prefer if everyone just had a regular 9-5 job and paid taxes the normal way like the good wage slaves they are

>>3048428
fucking commies man
i think i will just go to argentina or another south american country

>>3048437
yeah fuck those commies! move to south america and live like a king in the banana republics until some druglord moves into your province and buttrapes you

>>3047982
It's funny. I can't even understand if you are the usual /pol/turd of just some fundamentalist mudslim shepperd that throws rock at his wives for showing too much skin.

Oh the irony

>>3048445
south american here, things are pretty chill here man, what are you talking about?

>>3048366
>Tell me why people are getting up in arms about this?
I think it's mostly a kneejerk reaction to the strong implications of this part;
>We will do what we can to effect change within Image itself so that in the future, books like “Divided States” aren’t even considered for publication.

For a publisher whose entire platform rides on the idea that they have little to no influence on what they publish, the very idea of strongly "encouraging" the creators under their umbrella to watch sensitivity webinars in reaction to one comic pissing people off threatens their pull with the indie crowd that takes that shit seriously. Nobody would be making a fuss if this was explicitly restricted Image's own skeleton crew.

>>3048097
Wait... we're not in /co/?

>>3048185
then fucking leave already faggot

>>3047749
I'm more surprised that it's Image and not Marvel.

>>3047749
>>3048069

>We aren't here to take your comics you dumb alt-right losers! That's why we're prohibiting content.

Forget the fact that the source material was progressive to begin with as it was a horror comic that was based around discrimination. They were supposed to be shocked by it was meant to be something horrific.

There's a good reason why videogames and comics will never be art, and it's because these people do everything they can remove any alternative perspective. Literature like Mein Kampf, Huckleberry Fin, and Animal farm are mandatory reading for children in GRADE school because it's a mature medium. Likewise with films like Birth of A Nation (20th century version), High Noon, and Dirty Harry. Art isn't only reflective of the time period, but it's something that gives every voice a public platform. Be it from Nazis, Communists, and every other political ideology.

>>3048445

A lot of communists ruined central and south american countries, so thanks for proving his point. Your country will look like that in the future.

>>3048734

Let's not forget about H.P Lovecraft. He was pretty much an introverted /pol/ user who became an influential author to everyone.

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>>3048203
>>3048204
>>3048228
>>3048619
>They think I'm actually from that shithole l m a o
You guys are fuckin' mad my dudes

>>3048737
communism =/= socialism

wow you Americans really are stupid.

>>3048766
not american
point still stands

>>3048737
I know, that is my biggest fear

There's hoping there will be a Pinochet to free up all the markets and sentence all the leftists to die

>>3048743
There's also Knut Hamsun, Nobel Prize Winner in Literature and credited by many famous authors as being the father of modern literature, yet very few people know who he is, because he became a Nazi supporter near the end of his life, despite being a left-wing radical in his youth.
You also have Leni Riefenstahl, who's considered a legendary film director, despite working for the Nazis. There's something deliciously ironic about the propagandist of choice in far-right Nazi Germany being a woman.

Something I find very odd is that there's not really a single comic creator who's tried to appeal to what the media refers to as the alt-right. There's such an enormous, unexploited market there, that anyone who made anything half-decent would become a massive success. They wouldn't even need a publisher.

>>3047760
Smart man

Cmon is /pol/ leaking again? This is an art board for goodness sake, are we really that transphobic here?

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>cultural competence
Aka brainwashing and punishing for wrong opinions.

>>3048835
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlyzkw1we_g

>>3048559
If anyone's still freaking out about anything that this company has said, not the liberals, listen up. I'm not an expert, but I'm in the late years of being educated as a PR major in one of the top journalism colleges/programs that's around

>so stfu faggits i kno how the world werks kek

But for real.

Everything, EVERYTHING, that the company has said about this is literally one of their PR personnel going through the motions. There's all sorts of buzzwords, in fact the whole goddamn article is full of them. The contents are what every student is being educated to say in a situation like this. It's literally something a something would pump out if they wanted an easy A: Well-written, but with no actual meaning.

These people don't care. No one gives a single fuck. The business is on the side that makes money. They are doing this as a stunt, nothing more.

Again, keep an eye out on their feed, keep calling them and find out what's going on... But don't panic. Odds are this seminar is going to be conducted, people are going to get bored, and unless you incite and encourage unwarranted hate speech (which was probably prohibited, anyway), you'll be fine. They're not going to make you insert token gays and blacks, that's the worst thing this business could do and it looks like they know it (that's why they're handling this with "professional indifference"). They're trying to make the children happy to gain a new audience but no one actually gives a damn.

>>3048829
With how many fags here are into traps I don't see how anyone can seriously say they're 'transphobic'

>>3048791
They're afraid that once the fad is over they'll be out of work as their reputation is ruined beyond repair

>>3048845
You mean straights? There's nothing gay about a man liking a woman.

>>3048849
I think you got that backwards. It's the people who cater to SJWs that should fear for their future. Look at what happened to Marvel.

>>3048766
Communism is literally the end game of socialism. You're a fucking retard if you think you can have one but somehow magically avoid the other in the future.

>>3048863
Honestly pandering to both sides is damaging
It's all meme circlejerks at this point and it's fuckin' stupid
I'm pretty sure America's president got in purely because of /pol/
The year the memes won fampai feelsfuckingbad

>>3048863
They both should desu sempai

If I wanted shitposting about this kind of stuff I'd go to /co/. /ic/ is for making me feel pseudo-professional and letting me have the subconscious illusion of doing shit. Keep meme politics relegated to when I'm at least consciously aware of my laziness.

>>3048870
>>3048873
Not really. One is the disease, the other is the cure.

>>3048886
Each side feels that way about the other. Who the cure is and who the disease is are entirely dependent on whichever side is currently in the most risk of falling to extremism. 50 years ago it was conservatives, right now it's progressives.

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>>3048886
If you think a single political stance is the ambrosia for humans then go for it senpai

I'm definitely sure you haven't fell for the biggest meme if you're categorizing the internet's idea of good/bad people into 2 groups

>>3048849

There's will always be a market for both since they'll exist as long as you exist. It didn't ruin the reputation of Robert Crumb for sure.

>>3048889
>>3048892
I doesn't matter what the other side thinks. You've got far-left extremists on one side, and relatively normal people on the other. It's not a fight between two relatively centrist ideologies, but between extremism and normalcy.

If it drags on for too long though, there's no doubt in my mind that we'll see the rise of genuine right-wing ideology, which at least would make for interesting times.

>>3048889
>>3048902

Leftists now openly brag about committing terrorist attacks. So I would argue that they are worse now, but sides could potentially change in the future.

https://itsgoingdown.org/mexico-city-explosive-attack-exxon/amp/

How Antifa still isn't labeled as a terrorist organization puzzles me. It's as if they don't live in an ebil oppressive patriarchal heternormative society at all. If Antifa was a Trump-affiliated organization, you bet that people would call it out for what it is.

>>3048886
No, they're both the same fucking disease.

Objectivism is the cure.

>>3048902
There are extremists on both sides that embarrass the whole idea completely
You're just biased because you fall into one category and don't seem too self aware of it
>>3048914
this

Also where's my fucking loli drawings at fuck this thread

>>3048912
Commies have been using terrorism for over a hundred years, that's nothing new.

>>3047967
then how are you surprised by this?

>>3048914
I see you base your view of the alt-right on what the far-left has to say about it. That's not how it works if you want to be objective.

When rmainstream society is incapable of doing anything about this extremist behemoth that the far-left has become, or even ends up supporting it in the media, in the news and in places of higher learning, then you have a very clear enemy that needs to be defeated. The alt-right didn't just spring out of thin air. It's a resistance movement against far-left extremism. If the far-left was magically defeated tomorrow, then the alt-right would disappear. What they want is to live in a normal society.

But if the alt-right was to disappear tomorrow, then the far-left would still be there, because they're not fighting against the alt-right, they're fighting against and trying to take over mainstream society and western values.

>>3048929
>I see you base your view of the alt-right on what the far-left has to say about it.
No.

>What they want is to live in a normal society.
That's what's wrong with it. The far left is simply a more extreme version of what passes as "normal" in today's mainstream society. A stronger version of the same poison.

>>3048902
The lack of self-awareness is too real. RightWingWatchDOTcom documents plenty of the extremism coming from the right, all of which I guess you just brushed aside because it's on your side of the fence.

>>3048963

Nah, they aren't "extreme" for saying mean things about gay and trans people on obscure radio shows and podcasts. It's not what you say, it's about what you do. I say that as a gay person.

What's extreme is beating up an unarmed opposition in universities while bragging about bombing a fucking gas station in the name of fighting heteronormative patriarchy.

>>3048844
This is obvious to anyone with half a brain, but the SJW blowback crowd are the new hysterical soccer moms. Someone makes vague hand gestures to political correctness for pure marketing reasons and suddenly ARE CHILDREN!!! are being corrupted by genderqyr jackbooted trannies. Yawwwn.

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Reminder that you fucking nerds will never do anything to stop us. All you do is complain about it on the internet.

I wish the right could just get over trying to control everyone's sexuality and gender. Because I agree with them about immigration, economic reform, etc. But I can't support a side that is trying to stop me from using the fucking bathroom.

>>3049012

People are concerned about a medium and industry no longer being non-partisan. If you think that they aren't left-wing despite personally identifying as left-wingers, then you're dense.

>>3048185
>be yuropoor
>be held at gunpoint to pay for some 80 IQ to go to uni
>be held at gunpoint to pay for some fat fuck's healthcare
>be held at gunpoint to give my money to neets
>get blown up by rapefugee

>all these tumblrfags getting mad as fuck
go back to your shitty site already

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>>3049053
>le tumblr XD
The entire right-wing was literally emboldened by the fact that little girls on tumblr write silly things. Go outside and say half the shit you say online loser, see what happens.

>>3049030
I wish the left could just get over trying to control everyone's sexuality and gender.

Why does every character have to posess a huge shnozz

>>3049070
But they don't?

>>3048960
There is nothing normal about what the left is pushing, unless you're so young you don't actually know any better.

>>3048963
>The lack of self-awareness is too real. RightWingWatchDOTcom
So, basically you're confirming what I said.by relying on left-wing propaganda sites.

>>3049011
Most people on the right don't really give a fuck about gays and trannies. They may not like them, they may insult them online, but they don't plan to actually harm them or somehow prevent them from going about their lives.
What causes people to react is the obsession with forcing them into the media, pretending they're oppressed and trying to push for all these retarded, artificial genders, while at the same time claiming it's backed by science. It's a fight against idiocy more than ideology.

I'm also convinced that the left's obsession with sexuality is causing far more harm than good, and have caused far more people to hate gays and trannies than accept them. I know for a fact that if I was gay or transsexual, I'd want as little attention

I mean, how can they think anything good can come of propping up a bearded half-man in a dress and a wig who claims to be genderfluid. Of course people are going to laugh at and make fun of something that's inherently absurd or comical, just like anyone sane person makes fun of creationism.

>>3049076
You're quite literally making up sexualities and genders, and creating draconian laws that punish people if they refuse to take part in your bizarre fantasy world.

>>3049106
LGBT is a belief system, it's the new state religion
Join the church of denegeracy or be an outcast

>>3049106
If you think trans people don't exist, then it is you who is living in the fantasy world.

>>3049099
>There is nothing normal about what the left is pushing, unless you're so young you don't actually know any better.

Politics is currently dominated by the left, has been for many decades. That makes them the establishment, and by definition, normal.

>>3049118
Mental illnesses come in many forms, I wouldn't deny that transgenders don't exist.

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>>3047749
convert to weebism

>>3049122
Transition is the best treatment we have for trans people. Look at the suicide rates before and after, it's a night and day difference.

Also just because something is a "mental illness" doesn't mean it doesn't exist, or shouldn't be treated.

>>3049059
>hurr if you disagree with your a right winger XD
kill yourself retard

>>3049118
Yes, there are people who have abnormal brains and think they're the opposite gender, but the idea that they actually are the opposite gender is absurd. The idea that gender is fluid is also absurd.

Now, from a social perspective I don't care if they go on hormones and try to live as the opposite sex, but I draw the line at imaginary genders, enforced speech and "representation" of a group of people who don't even make up 1% of the population.

>>3049125
I don't have a problem with treating it. My problem is with the degeneracy in the streets and in the media, presentings things like transgenders as the hip new thing. Great for the actual struggling transgender, but fuck me, that's so few and now everyone and their mother is suddenly non-binary or non-hetero.

>>3049119
This isn't about semantics, you pedantic fuck.

>>3049139
I think you're defining sex and gender to be the same thing. The ship has sailed on that one, they're considered two different terms by now. Sex being the physical bodily components, and gender being the presented social role, internal understanding of oneself, etc.

There aren't just 2 genders, because people express themselves, fit into social roles, and conceive of themself in more than 2 ways. If you just separate things into just woman, and man, you lose a lot of descriptive power, and when you look at all the different kinds of people out there, the division doesn't make sense.

If you think sex and gender should mean the same thing (biology, reproductive organs, chromosones, etc), then I could see why you would think there would be only 2 genders, biological male and biological female. But that's not what people who use words like gender fluid, or talk about the gender spectrum are referring to.

I'm not sure what you mean by enforced speech, but for me it just comes down to a respect thing. If someone tells you that calling them something makes them feel uncomfortable and asks you to call them something else instead, and you keep calling them the thing that makes them uncomfortable, well it just seems very disrespectful to me, like you are trying to make them feel bad on purpose. It would be no different to me than if someone didn't like a nickname, or went by their middle name or something.

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>>3049052
There's less than a 1% chance for that to happen in my entire lifetime, whilst you
L I T E R A L L Y have to pay for that shit xd

>>3049145
It's not a new thing, it's probably as old as humanity.

As for everyone saying they're non-binary, I think that we do have some ideas about gender in ur society that don't really fit everyone, and they are kinda rigid. I think there are a lot of people who would be happier mixing and matching things they like from each side, and where before they would just be seen as a soft guy, or effeminate, or a butch girl, tomboy, etc they now say they're non-binary or whatever.

So I don't really see that as a bad thing, but I'm all for personal freedom. I wouldn't like anyone feeling pressured or forced to be non-binary any more than I would like someone being forced to adhere to a rigid gender role that doesn't work for them.

>>3049163
Not him, but
Can you see why this gender philosophy is ridiculed for being over the top? By this logic there are still only two genders: masculine and feminine, and every trait found in a human can be categorized as one of the two. The rest of the genders are just different combinations of masc and fem traits dependent on how they apply to any individual. If you wanted to actually categorize every gender given this definition then you may as well assign a unique one to each human being alongside their name. This is why the followers of this belief are called snowflakes.

As for the last part, I'm cool with it being a respect thing. But the real issue, and what the other anon was referring to, is this http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/16/canada-passes-law-criminalizing-use-of-wrong-gender-pronouns/

>>3049163
I'm aware of the bullshit behind it. That doesn't make it true, though. I mean, the fact that you think a bunch of artificial pronouns that have been made up in the past 5 years or so have any basis in reality is absolutely insane.

>you lose a lot of descriptive power
No, you don't. It's called having a personality. You can have an endless amount of personalities even if you refer to yourself as a man or a woman.

>the division doesn't make sense.
At least now you know what it's like to be in a cult.

>I'm not sure what you mean by enforced speech
It means you are punished by law if you refuse to use any of the 50 or so made up gender pronouns that have been written into law in Canada and certain US states.
It's basically a massive violation of free speech.

>>3049182
I think the important thing is to remember that the map is not the territory. On one hand we have abstract notions of gender, and on the other we have real people.

If we wanted a perfect mapping from our abstract ideas to real people, then like you say we'd need a different gender for each person. If we want a less granular view we can divide people into larger close clusters and use different terms to describe those clusters.

At the other extreme there is only 1 abstract term for everyone (human being), or 2 binary categories, man and woman, etc.

Gender ideas are a combination of societal abstract ideas and personal individual ideas. I don't think this inherent conflict can ever be fully resolved.

But I do think the binary concept is not very useful for gender classification, and that taking a more fuzzy approach with more categories would help more people, especially those who do not easily round over to one side or the other.

I do think the law enforcing pronouns is equivalent to anti hate speech laws though. So In USA where hate speech is allowed, then I don't think enforcing pronoun laws would be constitutional. In Canada and Europe which have more anti-hate speech laws then I can see how pronoun laws would fit into that anti-hate speech framework.

>>3049211
My pronouns are "I love Hitler!" and "I love Hitler very much!"
If you don't refer to me as such, I will take you to court.

>>3049218
That is not very appropiate of I love Hitler very much!

>>3048929
> If the far-left was magically defeated tomorrow, then the alt-right would disappear. What they want is to live in a normal society.

You're so naive. Most if not all movements are born as reactive movements to the current state.

And I dont think you actually see what stands behinds these "values" alt-right promotes. The idea that "everything used to be better back then when it was normal", is not just ludicrous, but just plain wrong. Its the delusions of people either too dense or too young to rememeber or know how it was back then. People that think the values held in the 50's were good.

Just visit /pol/. They entirely fall under the extremist horseshoe in the right side and are no different than extreme left, just another hugbox looking to be validated. Even the arguments are the same, each side citing biased sources to support sweeping claims about a situation's reasons. Generalizing opposing groups to point at an invisible common enemy.

I will admit the core of the alt-right is somewhat rational as it was born of reactivity to an irrational state presented by the left, but has been hijacked early on by agenda-driven people like stormfags and nazi sympathizers.

Both aides are garbage and if there was a simple solution to any of this it would already be emoloyed.

>>3049211
I hope you understand that you're supporting totalitarianism. Would you support laws banning homosexuality on the grounds that it's immoral? There are far more people who believe homosexuality is immoral, than people who believe they're a made up gender. Are these people right just because they feel homosexuality is immoral?
Would you support laws that make it illegal to criticize creationism, and that requires that it be taught in school? Again, the belief in creationism is no different from the belief that there are more than two genders. In fact, it's the exact same thing. It's based on people's feelings, and flies in the face of not only free speech, but scientific evidence.

The far-left ideals that you spout are exactly the same as religious views, because they're not based on science, logic or reason. They're based on feelings and obsessive moralizing. In the absence of Christianity, political ideology have stepped in to take its place on the far-left side of the political spectrum, and I say this as an agnostic/atheist. The ideological battle going on in western society is an exact reversal of what was going on in the 80s and 90s, when liberals were fighting against Christian conservatives trying to enforce their religious views and implement them into law. Now it's the left that's pushing for absurd, illogical laws, which has resulted in an entire generation of young people turning to the right, which is an almost unprecedented phenomenon in a historical perspective.

Also, in case you're unaware, hate speech laws are inherently illogical, because free speech doesn't exist to protect popular speech. It exists to protect unpopular speech, because people with unpopular or controversial opinions are exactly the ones who need protection. The line should only be drawn at direct threats or overt defamation.

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>Image
>All published material is creator owned
> "Image Comics STAFF to attend Trans Webinar and take cultural competency training"

This all sounds like your usual workplace sensitivity training. This doesn't affect any of you trying to make it into comics. Ya'll getting mad over nothing.

>>3049250
You're basing your views on the far-left interpretation of history, which only focuses on the negative aspects, and completely ignores the positive aspects.

>People that think the values held in the 50's were good.
In many ways, they were. In others, they weren't. Some positive aspects of traditional values were intact nuclear families, stronger communities, a higher sense of trust, more social mobility (for whites at least), higher corporate taxes, lower unemployment, virtually no outsourcing, better opportunities for people with a university degree, a more accessible housing market, less political polarization, less crime, etc.

Even in the black communities, despite the oppression they suffered, there were certain aspects that were better then than now, such as considerably lower rates of single mothers and teenage pregnancies, which resulted in more stables homes for black children. In turn, this resulted in considerably lower crime rates in the black community. Despite achieving equal rights in the 1960s, this era also destroyed the black community, and they still haven't recovered.

As for /pol/, they're essentially the shock troops of the alt-right. They congregate on /pol/ because they're protected by the anonymity that 4chan provides, as they would be persecuted if they were to express those views in the open. One thing I can guarantee you, though. If the left continues down the same path, it's /pol/ that going to become the new norm on the right, and not the mainstream alt-right, which mostly consists of classical liberals.

>>3049276
Political reeducation camps should always be a cause for concern.

>>3049115
>LGBT is a belief system, it's the new state religion

says all the alt-right fake ass christians who never opened a bible in their lives but are trying to impose their version of sharia law on everyone in america based on shit they read on breitbart

>>3047888
Satire is the rout to go my friend, even so if you signed before this went through are you even required to do this shit if it's not in the comic?

>>3048568
/co/ would be telling you to go back to /pol/ because you won't follow their '1000 reasons whites should die' blog.

>>3049338
>says all the alt-right fake ass christians who never opened a bible in their lives but are trying to impose their version of sharia law on everyone in america based on shit they read on breitbart
Are you retarded? The left has already instituted their own versions of Sharia courts in Canada. Google Social Justice Tribunal.

>>3049352
oh yeah? "librul" sharia law in canada? what exactly are they imposing on everyone? how has life changed for the average canadian?

provide links some real articles published on more than one source, not bullshit from somebody's blog

>>3047982
>half of them are black

13% of the population is black. half of that is female. So 6.5% is black females.Most of what else you said is just as untrue, you have no idea what you are talking about you should have stay in your home country if propaganda and misinformation is all it took to make you like that.

>>3049360
This has been a huge news story since last fall, you monumental idiot. It's what launched Jordan Peterson into the public eye.

>>3049352
>Social Justice Tribunal

>The Social Justice Tribunal system is an special court system set up to manage limited civil claims: benefit disputes, landlord-tenant disputes and child welfare disputes.

Wow yeah, that sounds just like Saudi Arabia. Wow

>>3049374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzsXqCzRsoQ

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I thought this was /ic/ not /pol/

>>3049384
this

Stop whining and get back to drawing your boxes

>>3049338

"White sharia" was a meme meant to highlight the double standards that your political group has with Islam.

>>3049406
>your political group has with Islam

>pointing out the hypocrisy of the alt-right fake christians = pro islam

a lobotomy gone horribly wrong I see...

>>3049459

Gee, haven't heard that before. Next, you're probably going to claim that I'm an inbred hick after claiming that you care for the lower class.

Anyway, Christianity doesn't have a sharia law since they're required to obey the law of the land, so I thought that you were talking about the "White Sharia" meme. It was blatantly satirical as users took the flaws of Islam, but rebranded it as alt-right so that your camp would notice it's flaws. The fundamental issue behind your group is that you don't observe actions to evaluate right and wrong, just names and groups. This is why you've pushed to ban msPaint frogs, photoshopped gifs, and mean tweets, but don't bat an eye at Antifa, an organization that openly brags about committing terrorist attacks and crime.

If you're trying to talk about their extreeeeme views about LGBT people, keep in mind that preaching is different from practicing. You very well know that kids shitposting on a anime board is harmless compared to blowing a multimillion dollar gas station. So stop throwing stones from a glass house and fix yourselves.

>>3048914
Objectively speaking, gays are defective.

The influx of African and Arab migrants will be detrimental to European societies, objectively speaking.

>>3049558
>Objectively speaking, gays are defective.
For policy-making, this means exactly what? An Objectivist society still would not specially discriminate against them on the basis of simply being gay.

>The influx of African and Arab migrants will be detrimental to European societies, objectively speaking.
So? European societies are not Objectivist societies. They lean quite heavily towards socialism, so wishing for their collapse would actually be quite logical.

>>3049014
S-source?

>>3049059
Funny, he got doxed and arrested over that.

I'm making a program that gives me drawing challenges in the form of 3d rendered forms (heh) to copy. It adapts to my results. The better I do, the more complex my challenges, from copying the angle of a straight line to accurately simplifying an extreme pose of a realistic human figure.

I will use myself as a guinea pig.

If you have any ideas for challenges I could put in, feel free to suggest them. Mostly anything you can think of is probably technically feasible, if not with a simple algorithm, by using an off the shelf GAN/CNN/RNN.

>>3049052
>>be held at gunpoint to pay for some 80 IQ to go to uni
unless you are a millionaire, you are paying less to go to a good uni than you would in america, even considering all the taxes.

>>be held at gunpoint to pay for some fat fuck's healthcare
same thing. unless you are millionaire, you are going to get a better standard of care for yourself from what you pay in taxes than you would in america.

>>be held at gunpoint to give my money to neets
unless you are a millionaire, what you are actually giving to neets is negligible.

>>get blown up by rapefugee
it's funny that you keep using "be held at gunpoint", because the chances of being held a gunpoint in america are several times greated than the chances of being held at gunpoint or being blown up by a refugee in europe.

america btfo

>>3049477
>Gee, haven't heard that before. Next, you're probably going to claim that I'm an inbred hick after claiming that you care for the lower class.

lol more like I'm anti-religion and find both sides of extremism "left" and "right" dangerous for society as a whole.

the world is fucked up because extremists like you keep trying to make everyone conform to your bullshit. you're no better than ISIS

>>3049748
None of that is relevant. A government that forces you to do any of these things is morally evil and needs to be destroyed.

>>3049812
"Extremist" is just the label that the conforming masses and the political establishment that herds them uses to describe anyone with a consistent worldview.

>>3049815
>None of that is relevant
yes, who cares about stuff being practical? only your subjective morals matter.

i'm happy you tards stay in america. we don't need you here.

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>>3049816
>openly admits they conform to a worldview
>everyone else are "sheeple"

>>3049818
Objective morals.

>>3049822
hahahaha just list a single objective moral that makes any of what i said invalid so i can laugh at you.

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>>3049823

>>3048829
4chan is /pol/

>>3049827
>gets asked about a moral
>posts a book detailing a philosophical system

Can Americans even read english?

>>3048069
Thank God I'm a filthy spic

>>3049836
>UGH, reading

>>3049258
>A post so logical liberals cant even see it

Heres your (you), you deserve it.

>>3049827
>>3049836
>>3049924
If you cant in simple terms explain how this book is relevant to the question he asked you then you don't actually understand the subject the book puts forth at all.

>>3048224
the nice thing about capitalism is that if they do, they won't be respected for much longer and some other studio will rise to fill the vacuum.

Hopefully.

>>3049291
one of the only sound arguments in this thread.

>>3050002
he didn't even ask a question

Leave it to the /pol/ LARPers to get all riled up over fucking nothing.

>>3047749
>image comics
Nothing of value was lost.

>>3049258
This is a great post, and I consider myself more on the side of liberal than conservative.

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>tfw i live in Russia
>tfw im gay
>tfw even if im gay im not retarded SJW
>even if im russian im not retarded drunk degenerate moron waving Putin portrait on russian marsch
>i like Poland and Germany and have friends in those countries. both countries are based and i hope to live in them
Feels good man.
Being gay russian is the only option for this gay earth.
You will be both smart and non-retarded.
Looking at what happening in America makes me laugh. Bunch of dumb fat slobs with fucked up brains that care only about black trans women.
Also your movies getting shittier with every year.

Step it up, the rest of the world.

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>>3049293
have none of you sad fucks ever worked in an office setting

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>>3050957
> im gay
good for you

>>3050957
>Step it up, the rest of the world
you mean we should get a dictator too?

>>3050957
Post Sexy pic pls

>>3051104
don't worry he'll become yours too soon enough

at least if you live in europe

It's two ugly white girls. Not surprised
https://youtu.be/sjo1Pi7WwG8

>>3051075
I live in what people characterize as one of the most equal countries in the world, and as far as I'm aware, we don't have sensitivity training or political reeducation camps.
If they announced something like this at my place of employment, I would not only refuse to go, but would do absolutely everything in my power to make sure it was canceled.

>>3047982
man the victim complex is strong

>>3053221
that sure was worth bumping this trainwreck of a thread for

>>3050957
Life in Germany as a Russian immigrant is pretty tough though, I speak from experience
also, лoндoн

>>3047752
You know, I want to say that shit like OPs image is fucking retarded and just SJW bullshit but then there are posts like yours.

Let me ask you something. Would you say this to a trans persons face?

>>3047760
I'm a trans person and I'm already so far ahead of you that it's literally impossible for you to ever catch up.

This goes for 99.9% of /ic/

>>3048185
holy shit you are fucking retarded.

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>>3049185
>artificial pronouns that have been made up in the past 5 years or so have any basis in reality is absolutely insane.
Anon, what exactly do you think language is? Seriously, think about it really really hard.

Or are you one of those faggots that think Pluto is still a planet?

Your old road is rapidly agin', Please get out of the new one If you can't lend your hand.

For the times, they are a changin'

>>3053585
So you're trans, obviously you wouldn't be having to go through the sensitivity training would you?

>>3053613
Here's a better suggestion, leave genders to only 3: masculine, feminine, and neutral. Example: I'm feminine in love, masculine in sex, and neutral emotionally, old method: I'm an omnisexual attack helicopter, you may refer to me as kle, klim, or klem. Get rid of all the other retarded shit, make gender ACTUALLY malleable instead of just being an excuse for snowflakes to invent their own pronouns.

>>3053613
>>3053630
desu i dont really care unless they make it illegal not to use their made up words
that being said, polygamy, bestiality and pedos are certainly down the road...

>>3053613

>Language changes, which is why I have to fine and criminally prosecute you for using it incorrectly.
>I totally die from incorrect pronoun usage and people not accepting me despite less than 40 of us dying each year. It's definitely not from taking ineffective suicidal treatment that castrates me, not from being permanently disfigured into an unattractive member of the opposite sex, and certainly not from chemicals that fuck with my head.

If anything, we've gone backwards. Sorry that people are willing to care and give you one last chance.

>>3053649
>Language changes, which is why I have to fine and criminally prosecute you for using it incorrectly.
What? No one is saying that at-fucking-all.

You're just making shit up.

>>3053626
Learning to not be a dick isn't going to make you a worse artist.

>>3053688

Canada and New York didn't make it up. Those are actual policies implemented in those areas and an inevitable outcome.

>>3053613
>Anon, what exactly do you think language is?
I fail to see the relevance.

>all these progressivists turning up in the thread
this truly is the worst board

>>3047982
Jesus christ the FOB is strong with this one lol

>>3053613
>Anon, what exactly do you think language is?
Language develops in nests and it always grows organically. You can't enforce global use of pronouns because nobody has a need for it except the SJWs who want to feel validated by it. It has never happened that something so artificial was implemented in everyday language.

>>3054327
You really are just a fucking idiot. Everything you say is hypocritical or contradictory. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

>>3053745
...

>>3055373

Language doesn't evolve around millennial LGBTQA+ people who are less than 3% of the population.

>>3049125
Night and day usually means completely different. Post transition and post op people are still something like 20 times more likely to kill themselves than the general population, even 10 years after their changes.

>>3055373
>Everything you say is hypocritical or contradictory
I see the irony is lost on you.

>>3055373
I guess those science books on linguistics were wrong then

so glad im not one of those fags.

ill just enjoy getting gud and drawing lolis while these fags get lectured by old hags about what they can and cant draw

>>3047749
Literally indoctrination.

>>3047908
You mean Disney and it's subsidiary Marvel Studios have a source of revenue.
Marvel Comics is bleeding and may well close if it continues like this. Ironically they are prohibited from profitting with ther most beloved and potent property, the X-Men, because Disney doesn't own the rights to their movies.

>>3047923
As of today and heterosexual white male who isn't a jew or born into money is more likely to live the "american dream" in fucking mexico than america.
There's no social mobility left unless you are brown, female and/or take dicks up your ass.

>>3048162
>PR damage control sadly take precedence over logic these days. Especially when social media can magnify the outrage from a vocal minority into an rolling storm capable of collateral damage. Submitting and conceding quickly with the hope that the rage will die down quickly and contained is comparatively better than standing your ground and letting the fire taint the general perception of your operation. Ain't smart in the long run, but what can you do?
Outright ignoring them works even better.

>>3048366
>Shut up until you don't have right and then shut up because you don't have rights.
Solid logic dumbass.

>>3048445
>Defending communism by comparing it to the results of communism
Can't make this shit up.

>>3049059
>Go outside and say half the shit you say online loser, see what happens.
Nothing. I speak against faggots rather openly in my day to day and people tend to agree or ignore me. SJWs only have balls in twitter and tumblr where they have literally bulliedthe management into compliance.

>>3049163
That's literally dehumanizing people into statistics and tags, and I am toroughly disgusted and a little bit saddened that so many people have allowed themselves to be removed from the agency of their individuality by this heinous ideology.

>>3049258
The only intelligent post in this shitshow of a thread.

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>>3055632

>DRUMPF
Did you just say, TWO. FUCKING. SCOOPS?!?

>>3049748
Every american thinks they'll be a millionaire at some point, that's why they batlantly refuse to increase taxes for the rich.
They're completely tamed.

>>3051075
Real companies don't have this shit, only jew-run shitholes like education and entertainment do because they really, really need to indoctrinate the masses at all cost.

I thought (((they))) loved money above all else but apparently they like fucking with whitey's future even more.

>t. mexican petroleum engineer who hopes Silvestri can withdraw Cyber Force and Top Cow entirely from these faggots.

>>3053630
Nigga, their goal is complaining, how are they gonna do that if they can't make up reasons why they're persecuted on the fly?

>>3053693
Seek mental help if you aren't already

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>>3048069
>We will do what we can to effect change within Image itself so that in the future, books like “Divided States” aren’t even considered for publication. We invite Chaykin and anyone else who works for or at Image to attend a Trans 101 webinar hosted by an LGBTQ community center and paid for by the Moonstruck team
>google Moonstruck
>(pic related)

Holy fuck my sides.

>>3047875
The sales will plummet regardless, because the product is stale and comics have been replaced by vidya and netflix as a mass medium. The blue-pilled shit is a retarded and failed attempt to capture a specific demographic that whines about lack of representation in media they don't consume.

>>3049145
>Great for the actual struggling transgender
actually not really, there are so many people now who co-opt my crippling mental disorder for special snowflake points. as well as the representation of post-op trans bodies making it 100% harder to pass. people shouldnt be made to feel ashamed for what they are, the problem is theyre making it much more difficult for me to live a normal life

>>3057954
To be fair, the only good thing that will come out of this abortion is the minotaur dude. He's a cutie.
Everything else looks awful.

>>3048791
Ben Garrison.

>>3048791
I'm liberal but I hate SJW extremism so more often than not the "alt-right" agrees with me and while I'm about to think "oh finally someone with some reason" they go full on "it's the JOOS!!! WE HAVE TO GAS ALL THE JOOS!!!". This is why people in the left who disagree with the propaganda have the only option to stay silent. There's no middle ground anymore.

>>3058114
Technically speaking, the Jews are vastly overrepresented among SJWs. Even the nationalistic ultra-zionists in Israel have now started attacking liberal American Jews.

>>3058125
And vice versa. Tons of American liberal jews dislike Israel.