How long would it take to reach nosebro's level?

>>3032727
Is that his? Two weeks tops.

900 years

>>3032727
1.5 years. 2.25 assuming no use of reference.

I wanna be famous like you, Nosebro-kun..

>>3032789
i mean people think youre me, but dont worry aniki: i shall slowly gained influence and skill over time, and as my shadow grows, so shall you.

>>3032727
Why would you aim that low?
It's also impossible to say, people progress differently. If you're moderately talented I'd say half a year, implying you never held a pencil before.

>>3032727
Kek

>>3032869
try to find a single person who has my level after 6 months.

>>3032727
all you faggots think you can be picasso when you dont put any work in and just wanna be millionaire superstars in a day as if itd even happen
you lazy 17 year old fucks dont deserve anything and we already have 20 000 anime artists who are better than you and were years ago

>>3032945
You're saying only 0.028571428571429% of humans are better than me? Thanks!

>>3032945
you quite literally don't have to put work in to draw like picasso though

his whole schtick was making "no effort" look like some artistic accomplishment

>>3032727
20 minutes tops

>>3032727
-a week with draw a box
-a week vilppu
-a 15 minute tutorial on greyscale from youtube (you fuck up)
-and some sakim*chan bullshit face tutorial for proportions (you won't need cause vilppu anyway)

there you should even surpass him in a month if complete beginner

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>>3032727
oh and by the way im planning on gracing people with a round of post your work fights later.

>>3032878
Firez

>>3033034
what does that mean?

>>3033036
Lurk more, fakebro

>>3033039
im the real one though...

>>3032878
dude, you really aren't good. get off your pony.

>>3033058
please answer the question with evidence.

>>3032732
Second post best post.

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>>3032727
>no perspective
>mid-tier anatomy
>1 layer of shading
>shitty lineart
>dont have the spark

will take you 5 hours to reach this level.

3 months if you put in at least a couple hours per day

>>3033043
You don't know Firez? Didn't know you were a newfag.
That guy used to post on /ic/ when he started, got prett, decent in a shorz amount of time. Nothing extrordinary, but definitely bettet than you. Your problem is not a lack of skill but commitment. You're that ADHD kid that's unable to concentrate for a straight minute. Stop pretending you care about /ic/ and start working on your art, faggot.

Download SAI, turn the stabilizer waaaaay up, ctrl+z every line about a hundred times and you're there.

>>3033407
Firez can't draw a decent looking face from imagination to save his life though.

>>3032790
NoseBro stop talking to yourself, you should get that schizophrenia of yours checked out.

>>3033409
Stabilizer is a crutch, you should be drawing at 0. Practice Drawing straight lines and unwobbly circles each day, and you won't need it.

>>3033419
>Stabilizer is a crutch
Photoshop has inner stabilizer. Drawing in PS = crutch

>>3032727
30mins

>>3032727
i thought nosebro was better. Now all i can think is how he has the courage to namefag with that level.

>>3033407
>You don't know Firez?
i wrote a whole firez fanfic, retard.
>>3033560
>>3033521
>>3033396
>>3033012
>>3032952
>>3033058
>>3032732
>>3032869
>>3033392
post your work

>>3034233
you already know I'm better than you

>>3034235
post your work

>>3034243
why prove something again

>>3034248
because you havent proved anything

>>3034256
oh yeah?

>>3033058
Nosebro may be a retard but you are wrong, you are just embarrassing yourself

>>3034280
actually, nosebro here, though he is a retard, im only around 60% to min. pro level. Over here anything short of 80% pro is considered not good.

>>3034261
put up or shut up pussy boy.

>>3032727
If you're serious, study the fundamentals and you will be well beyond Nosebro level within a couple months.

The thing with Nose is that he went for stylization over substance and skill. Granted, he's practiced that style so he's able to show something for it. However, it's stylization like a cartoon. Think Spongebob. That's all he knows how to do.

By learning properly, you will be further than Nosebro has gotten. Maybe your pen control won't be up to par. Yet you'll be able to create better artwork and able to draw and paint with realism, even if anime is your goal. Notice that Nosebro can't draw anything that's not his cartoon style. No fundamentals and essentially gimped in progress.

Do not aim for Nosebro level. It's not a level. It's a beginner detour. Instead, aim to be a good artist by learning fundamentals. You will learn faster and will easily have better tools for creating more appealing artwork in a fairly short time.

>>3034311
Legitimate question Nose. Do you seriously never ever draw from reference? How long have you been doing this?

>>3034413
I drew from reference 8 months back for a face, and then 6 months before that in the 300 hand challenge, prior to that maybe 5 months prior i used to do figure drawing. then theres a year of actual referenced work on and off in there. then its a year of no referenced work ( first year, symbol only, anime only, no style, no understanding, etc.)

Though i do understand there is much to gain from getting references, i believe the innate understanding and speed i am gaining is worth more than that. To be fair though, i do go figure drawing perhaps twice a year on average, the last one being roughly 6 months back.

So ya, in sum, its not i advocate for never ever doing references, but i do advocate building up a talent pool and unlocking it all in chunks with reference. I do stare at people in the bus, and myself in the metro (door acts as mirror and lightsource is consistent.)

By my current estimates, itll take me another 2 or 3 years before hitting the level I want to start drawing my comic. I only draw one hour a day on average but i really do buy into the diminishing returns theory.

>>3034354
>he's practiced that style so he's able to show something for it.

He doesn't even post finished work ever, he actually has nothing to show for it.
All he manages to shit out after all these years are sloppy sketches, he doesn't know how to progress further because he spends all his time giving "critique" to inflate his own ego rather than actually drawing.
I've been here for years now and it amazes me that he hasn't improved at all in this time period. Then he likes to act like he's some authority on critique (m-muh sticky!!!) when he doesn't even know how to finish a picture. It's pretty sad desu

>>3034422
by muh sticky I'm referring to the fact he brings up the fact he manages it any chance he fucking gets. No one cares. It actually makes the sticky look less reliable.

>>3034425
guys did you know i manage the sticky? please fucking help me guys.

Also, post your work.

>>3034311
What is 80% pro and what is min. pro level? Got examples?

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>>3034430
https://www.artstation.com/artist/danitchu people like this get through the cracks, but as a rule of thumb, a 80% pro is somehow who has 80% of the skill of someone who is at the level where there works show no basic mistakes, good rendering and stylistic decision. Of course thats just the minimum level of pro, 170% pro might be someone like ruan jia, though even he has pieces that exceed his own skill.

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>>3034436
vs what SHOULD BE the minimum to get consistently hired.

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>>3034436
to me people above a certain level become something akin to mega-pros

>>3034440
sadly though the same artist who can pull this can pull super-mediocre products, so its hard to assess.

https://www.artstation.com/artist/farazshanyar

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Anyway, its my personal attempt to see when id be comfortable creating a product and classifying people into 3 big groups. amateurs/pros/megapros

>>3034421
I dunno man. There's a lot I've learned purely thanks to the use of reference. Because part of what using reference does to you, is that it helps you internalize a lot of stuff you might have not been initially aware of through observation. It's the difference between reading notes, and taking notes. The mere process of trying to replicate what you see does a lot more to your brain, purely out of the effort and concentration it takes, than reading a book, or observing something, and then trying to apply this later.

Our imaginations are limited, as is our visual reference library. You might be able to know vaguely know what a scarab beetle looks like for example, but your brain will never immediately know how all the different parts of its body fit together, and by drawing from reference do you internalize that knowledge, as the process itself forces you to break it down in a way you can understand, in order for you to replicate it. I'm not sure if that makes sense to you.

My thoughts, you're really hurting your progress by doing this. No artist, ever has learned without the use of reference. To say that you can do it, is to imply that you're better than the likes of Michaelangelo, Rafael, DaVinci, etc...

I think that at the end of this road, you might find that you've wasted your time with this method. I don't wanna be rude when I say this, but just looking at your blog man, you've made very little progress, if any at all in all this time. And the reason is because of your method of study.

I know you're afraid of becoming reference reliant, but over reliance on reference vis something you wane out of as you accumulate experience. Trying to do it backwards... it's just not possible man. You're missing too much stuff, and limiting your observation skills.

My two cents dude. I know people around here tend to be very harsh toward you man, but I think you could make some genuine improvements if you tried a different approach.

>>3032732

/thread

>>3033024
Muh dick

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>>3032727
Who the hell is nosebro?
>>3033024
i really dig this style, i don't believe i have a style yet and i like this,pointers?

>>3034421
How long have you been drawing?

Can NoseBro just put on a trip so we don't have thirty NoseBros running around

>>3034771
this please

>>3034778

Tripcodes are not a necessity to the NoseBro™ brand.

>>3032727
4

>>3034725
3.5 years if you count everything
>>3034720
just draw what you like and youll eventually have a style

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>>3035026
Teach me how to draw nosey senpai

>>3035034
we've covered this already, you're better than me.

>>3035038
When it comes to painting ye, but drawing wise you're ahead for now

>>3035034
You're better than him.

>>3035026
>3.5 years
You're a long way from diminishing returns, buddy

>>3035048
I meant more on the side of the first hour being the biggest piece in gains. My home made excuse for not drawing too much.

>>3034422
how do i avoid becoming a nosebro

>>3035052
spend less time on /ic/

>>3035043
im still moderately mad you havent given me my one on one yet. Fucking hours of typing and i cant hear your voice. You're almost as bad as Firez.

>>3034425
Fuck, that me kek harder than expected.

>>3035121
One on one what?

>>3035159
gesture battle

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>>3035159
Gay sex, of course you retard

>>3035121
Youll get it eventually dw bud

>>3032878
I haven't seen all your work, but I'd almost be tempted to say I'm there...
Doesn't mean I don't still have a long way to go...
NoseBro! if you are going to issue that challenge, let's see a progress-thread style collage from you to compare our work against.

>>3035177
i have it on tumblr, show me drawings from someone who went from beginner to level in 6 months. It's impossible.

>>3035200

>what is LAS

>>3035200
Ok, I found your Tumblr. Scrolled through it. Lots of sketches, few finished pieces, and I'm not vastly experienced, so it's hard to judge your skill level... But I'm fairly sure my fundamentals are on par.
>It's impossible.
See, that makes me worried/hesitant to post my work because it sounds like you already have your mind made up... But I started 6 months ago, and I'm working hard...

>>3035200
hey nosebro can i get a skill % assesment
>>3035203

Holy shit just ignore this guy ffs. The more attention you give him the more insufferable he'll get.

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This thread finally made me hate Nosebro less. All these fags trying to say "you can do what he can in five seconds!" without posting work prove that he himself isn't the problem. You all are.
More power to ya, Nosey. More power to ya.

>>3035218
fucking tease, just post
>>3035222
your style masks a lot of your mistakes, but assuming your rendering is on par with your lines (which it isnt),you're between 40% and 65% of the way there depending on your pieces. You keep making mistakes on the form of the feet, and the length of arms as well as some wonky anatomy here and there, and yet that one cyborg-detective shows a lot of skill. Overall its hard to average it out though.

but as i said, your style is normie-bait so you'd be potentially able to go pro a little sooner than you should.

>>3035231
wtf i love nosebro now

>>3035231
stop enabling me! Honestly though, its all in good fun and it is mildly entertaining, which is why I participate.

>>3035225
It's hard to ignore the faggot.

>>3035232
fare enough, thanks.

>>3035236
especially when you don't want to!
>>3035237
fair*

>>3035237
>fare enough, thanks.
>>3035239
>fair*
samefagging piece of crap.

>>3032727

You could reach Nosebro level quickly by using Korean Old Masters techniques.

Challenge Nosebro to a gesture battle. Register it. Replay it until you've memorized it. Now, assume a Lotus form and meditate, until your mind is empty.
Then focus on that gesture battle, try to remember it, to experience it again. After a while, you will recreate Nosebro inside of your brain, and your mind will have a virtual gesture battle. Providing that you've memorized his moves correctly, you'll soon be able to do whatever he does because your brain will rewire itself to recreate Nosebro's every moves.

It's kinda like Shadowboxing, except you're effectively reshaping your inner artistic spirit into Nosebro's.

>>3035232
what makes my art look normie baity, just wondering.

>>3035259
has there ever been a real deal gesture battle here?

>>3035265
no because people pussy out after talking smack

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>>3035218
>>3035232
Fine NoseBro. Here. I posted these a few days ago. Scribblies from sketchbook. I've got some digital too, but it's... Eh... I have a long way to go.
I started in January.
I'm a hobbyist.
1/2

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>>3035278
2/2
Don't recall having posted these, except for an early version of top right a few alt/styles's ago.

>>3035261
ink+light crosshatch is the ultimate normie bait because its slightly hard to read and forces the mind to "fill the gaps"
>>3035265
I CHALLENGE YOU.
We can record the whole thing and have it be a public event too.

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>>3035265

Not that I know of. The closer I ever went was a Kim Jung Gi battle, but the rules are different - an angry Anon asks people ITT to draw several things in a unique picture (a moto, a truck, a deer...), the goal is to rush it to prove that anyone can do what KJG does, then we post the results. Hilarity ensues.

>>3035265
What the fuck is a gesture battle?
Can somebody explain the nature of this?

>>3035278
>>3035280
though you dont do any dumb mistakes like having an eye lower than the other or anything dumb like that, this isn't up to par. For 6 months its quite good, but its really not nearly as close of a matchup as you think.

Now I know this is a biased response, so im willing to just show you what a bit of line elegance can do to any of your drawings, choose one and ill try to redline it ( assuming you aint baiting)

>>3035289
Nah, not baiting.
I did disclaim that it's hard to judge your skill level from your sketches.
Sure, redline away, I'd be delighted to get some critique.
Redline the pointing/winking one, unless you think there's another one which will better illustrate your point.

>>3035261
Nothing, he's just pulling crap out of his.

>>3035259
If I wanted to be at Nosebro's level, I would just quit drawing for a year.

Y'know, because he's below my skill level.

>>3035304
post work :^)

>>3035034
Nose-sensei should definitely stream some.

>>3035306
Holy shit I am hyped, where do I sign up for this gesture battle Nose-sama?

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>>3035278

>>3035322
come into the sticky improvement discord and we can 1v1 there, trashtalk included.

>>3035326
note: most of this is achieved by me just redrawing the exact same line but with a better understanding.

>>3035330
>with a better understanding.
*with a better stabilizer

>>3035326
>redline
>just traces over it
wew

>>3035335
>im on photoshop lmao. wtf stabilizer are you on about. its called having an arm.

>>3035337
Doesn't photoshop have a stabilizer ?

>>3035327
It says the link may have expired

>>3035337
Photoshop has a built-in stabilizer that I know from experience works a lot better with certain tablets. I too saw a big jump in quality when I switched from a crappy chink tablet to an intuos.

>>3035347
i saw a huge decrease in quality when i went from sai to photoshop.

>>3035326
Original Sketch here
Interesting feedback.
Tweaking the torso angle on the one facing away and indicating the shoulder does indeed look better.
Your hair flows better than mine.
Not sure what happened to the pointing one? I'd appreciate if you clarified that critique.

>>3035352
arms were too long, glasses were out of perspective and i added a bit more line on the extending side to show form, standardized eyes, fixed hair to fix skull ( fixed skull), fix hourglass figure a bit, fixed extending shoulder so its visible, stylistic choices and simplification, better lines overall, fix ahoge.

>>3035326
>>3035352
Also your pupil tweaks make the eyes look more... Lifelike...? Believable? Not sure what word I'm looking for.
Some interesting takeaways. Still looking.

>>3035352
also most of the quality is not derived from the flow, but from how i logical group the shapes together, youre not clumping enough/simplifying.

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>>3035359
.

>>3032727
How long would it take to reach Shadman's level?

>>3035364
about 4 years

>>3035357
>>3035357
Ok, I see the hair/skull problem now.
...And again, your torso angle tweak shows the form better...
Now, my confusions....
I agree the near side glasses lens was dropped too far, and not in perspective correctly... But why did you make the closer lens smaller than the farther lens?
Regarding the arm length... I'm going to have to look a bit more... They're all from imagination, so I can't just go check a ref, but I'm fairly certain that if anything, the near side elbow is the only thing too long there... That and the cuffs are too far up (they seem to cut the wrists in half) or they need to be crunched up by the heel of the hands or moved down...
Either way, seems to me that the top side of the elbow should be low enough to wrap around the bottom of the tits, and the point of the elbow should go nearly to the bottom of the ribcage, but not quite, with the shoulder cocked... Which would leave your near side arm too short? It's hard to tell because it looks like you made her torso a lot shorter...
I can't really expect you to finish them off, that's asking a lot, but...

>>3035362
Yeah, I get that, but I have a problem positioning the long axis of the pupil correctly relative to the head. Mine all look tilted when I'm done... Any pointers on that? Yours are done right.

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>>3035373
>I can't really expect you to finish them off

>>3035386
Well that was unexpected.

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>>3035306
I'm showing you what a bit of not symbol drawing can do to your drawing.

note: most of this is achieved by me just redrawing the exact same line but with a better understanding.

>>3035404
mine is still better though, you jsut disanimefied the face and fucked the lines.

>>3035406
oh really?
GESTURE BATTLE RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW, YOU LITTLE PUNK

>>3035427
>>3035406

i wanna see this, doitnowmothafuckas

>>3035404
Why do people draw with these fat chalky crayon smears?

>>3035430
Any link to the discord?

>>3035433
why dont you just gesture battle here discord faggot

>>3035435
>>3035430
>>3035427


its not a battle if i cant trash talk while were doing it.

https://discord.gg/K5gwsyg

im waiting. plug in your mic and tighten your anus because you're in for being rekt.

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>>3035404

>>3035446
whats the point of being stronger if you cant stab people with your elbow?

I had to much responsibility!!!!!. Im just a drunk faggot on /ic/ What kind of monster gives a 4chan user any form of responsibility

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The first ever LIVE recorded gesture battle is here! Nosebro Vs Putsu in an Epic showdown! Watch it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqOiDj5IQaM

>>3035565
GESTURE BATTLE!!
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>>3035565
wow puts is so good at drawing

>>3035572
wow nosebro is so good at drawing

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>>3035565

>>3035565
This needs to be its own thread

Hey nose bro, why not just start the comic now? You'll improve faster by making a comic than by doing random doodles from imagination.

>>3035640
I want my comic to be amazing start to finish. I dont want you to feel like youre watching episode 1 of one piece.

>>3035644
>I want my comic to be amazing start to finish.
Good luck with becoming good at comics without making comics, baka.

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>>3035662
i have like 20 one shot summaries so its fine. id be doing a disservice to the world by making them at my current skill level.

>>3035663
It's a disservice to yourself to not practice finishing those one shots
Your first comic will not turn out as good as you hope, so you better start failing sooner than later.

>>3035663
No, you won't dude, make your comic. Have you seen the comics on tapastic? They are shit. But the thing is, the only way to improve your comic making is by making comics. There are simply too many skills you'll miss out on by only sketching. Expecting your first comic to be good is like expecting your first animation or your first illustration to be good. It simply doesn't work like that.

>>3035644
Bad attitude, imo

>>3035673
>>3035669
it doesnt matter how right you are, im not embarassing myself. ( xep for the gesture battle)

>>3035687
You know you can finish stuff for yourself without online attention whoring, right? ...right?

>>3035697
thats cool and all but did you know i manage the sticky?

Please continue to do us all a favor and continue at your level of artwork. In fact, don't change one thing about what you're going. You've plateaued in your ability to draw and that's great for those interested in getting better than you.

>>3035663 your gestures, >>3035386
your ill fated attempts at drawing some form of japanese style artwork, >>3033024
whatever particulars you were trying to display here >>3032727 and your OP picture all refer to someone who no longer will surpass his expectations anytime soon. I'm sure you'll be drawing the same way 15 years from now.

I'll come to expect nothing less, and sure, you can ask me to post my work. But to be quite honest, I don't need to.

Thanks for showing me that I'm years ahead of you. And in that 15 year time frame, you'll have given up, moved on to a more mundane type of work, and fall completely off the face of the planet.

Don't you change a thing about you, :)

>>3035698
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Let me tell you something NoseBro, there is something called the Law of diminishing returns which you've probably heard of. The more you practice doing the same thing, the harder you'll have to work to gain results from it. You've had this blog for 3 years now and made little improvement, what makes you'll make massive improvement in the future? If you thought your progress was slow now, it will become even slower as the years go on. Get out of your comfort zone and practice other stuff: comics, illustration, backgrounds, compositions, etc

>>3035751
Don't encourage him, he's fine just the way he is. And he has a blog? Please post it so that I can go see three years back and see that he hasn't changed at all in his work.

Blog?

>>3035755
the blog goes back 1 year.

xnosebro.tumblr.com
>>3035747
post your gesture battle.

I don't get why people are creaming over nosebro when there are so many better artists on /ic/
Literally big fish in a small pond scenario

>>3036111
like?

>>3036111
i may not be the most skill't, but im the most fun.

>>3036111
I thought most people hated nosey lol, i like him tho, he sweet

>>3032727
I would put him around average freshman-sophomore level of an art school like RSAD, SCAD, Art Center.

>>3035663
I want to tease you for not posting your attempt at painting, but it's so hard now that I see you as an actual human being.

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>>3035663
nosey how do you draw faces so nicely
I'm a baby and need any sort of advice

>>3036135
>fell for the nosebro is secretly an okay guy meme
>>3036158
post your work, im not a fortune teller.

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>>3035747
I'm sure you'll never be a great artist by any metric, either. All great artists I've ever heard about were humble.

Instead, you're picking on a fellow member of this board just to make yourself feel better. Because apparently your skill in art isn't enough on its own to inspire confidence in yourself, instead you have to lower the status of everyone around you.

You're right, you don't need to post your work. I've never seen it, but I already know it's nothing special.

>>3036195
Though statistically he probably is worse than me by a significant margin, It has nothing to do with his posts.

its just fun to be an assshole. you're reading too deep.

>>3036185
>okay guy meme
now I regret not SWATing you

>>3035747
Please post your art and prove those namefags wrong.

>>3036203
fuck off Christina.

>>3036206
*chuckle*

>>3036195
Post your work. Post your blog. Let's see how mediocre you are as well.

>>3036080
Yeah, nothing special at all. Keep at it, you'll fade into obscurity in no time.

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>>3036219
Nosebro! Wa-watashi...

>>3036220
what about your work?

>>3036219
Or keep doing gesture battles until you wear down to absolutely nothing.

You have no skill. Mundane in your entertainment. Stay the same. Never get better. You'll be doing the world a great service by wallowing in the mire here.

>>3036223
With every reply you give back to me, the more time I take away from you so that your skill level stays the same, or even better, diminishes. This is the top of your mountain. Welcome to your reality.

>>3036223
How does it feel to be so absolutely awful in your attempt to be an artist? Please, tell me.

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>>3036227
hahaha that actaully made me laugh good job anon-kun

>>3036223
And my work is doing just fine, believe me. I have enough practice under my belt to run circles around you so that you NEVER return—you and your gang of cronies. I ALONE can take each and every one of you on and STILL have enough resources available at the end of the confrontation to draw something exquisite.

>>3032727
About three days worth of doodling.

>>3033024
>>3035326
>>3035404
>>3035663

And getting retarted namefags like this one to white knight a lost cause.

>>3036227
>>3036233

im going to barely draw whether i spent 10 minutes talking to my fans or 2 hours. This is the peak of my career, nearly 50 people discussing the greatness that is me atm! If anything, thanks to your tomfoolery i practiced with puts for like 2 hours instead of the usual 45-60 minutes.
>>3036225
at least ive got something to wallow

>>3036256
I love waitching you break, Nosebro. Look at you, are your hands shaking because you don't know what to say? is that feeling in the pit of your stomach the absolute truth?

This is the peak of your career because I said so. You're my bitch now. you can't even type correctly because you know I just got into your head, down into your psyche, down where all your fears live.

>>3036256
And call me out on my typing. I made that mistake so that you can answer back to me like my bitch. Go ahead, NoSkill. Answer me.

>>3036240
/ic/ is a burning trash fire with mediocre tripfags and namefags jerking each other off around said fire, the only good thing about this place is the artbook thread.

>>3036266
Tell me why do these fags namefag? What joy is it in doing so?

>>3036256
I didn't think so, bitch. All bark and no bite.

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>>3036261
honestly this is great, are you the same guy who wrote this?

>>3036268
why the fuck do you ask that question to an anon? Are you looking for echo-hate or an answer?

>>3036274

echo-hate

>>3036268
Personally I just really dislike the anonymity of 4chan and think /ic/ would be 10 times better if everyone had a name or a trip attached to their posts to try and limit shitposting a bit

>>3036273
You're reaching now, NoSkill. Look at you, going back on replies like a scared little bitch trying to make sense of this.

You're pathetic.

>>3036273
I own you. You're my bitch now.

>>3036268
I dont know tips are a problem across 4chan, unless you can corral them to one thread like this one. all i know is /ic/ is to far gone beginners are better off going strait to the artbook thread and get all they can get.

>>3032727
hey nosebro did you learn fundamentals before learning to draw like you do now. if you did how did you do this...what books did you read how did you study and what did you study first

>>3036274
This is how you break namefags on /ic/.

>>3036283
fuck you, you little bitch
he's not your bitch until you beat him in a gesture battle

>>3036273
Did you seriously save that from 2016?! You had to reach back a YEAR ago to try to make sense of this?

You are my bitch. ha ha

>>3036288
i did a lot of sycra/proko videos and i did the first 6-7 exercises of drawing on the right side of the pseudoscience.

It's not very important to learn the fundamentals so much as it is about getting an innate understanding of the fundamentals. Which is what im working towards.

Just draw and youll reach my level eventually (assuming you havent already), and by the time your here youll want a bit more.

>>3036294
Quiet, NoSkill hasn't answered back. I'm waiting for my bitch to say something again.

>>3036298
>>3036283
>>3036281


is it you or not? You type like illastrat, you illastrat?

>>3036277
then why dont you go to reddit? you can even down vote people you dont like.

>>3036301
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Who the fuck is Illastrat? I can taste the fear in your words, NoSkill. I've worn you down from high and mighty "Post your work" status to guessing who the hell this is from a reply you looked up on the archives almost a YEAR ago.

No more gesture battle thoughts. You've gone from laughter to guessing who the hell I am.

>>3036312
its about the culture, not about the anonymity. Technically reddit is just as anonymous as 4chan. The problem is its too open and he upvote downvote system leads to pal-tomfoolery. Not only that, only artists come here, on reddit every sub is managed by people who can't draw and visited by people who don't draw.

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>>3036314
You reminded me of something i had saved that i thought was funny is all, just was curious if you were the same person.

>>3036299
another anon but.....

I have this problem in my brain that i want to learn to draw but then my brain goes to OOOoooo lets go back to learning animu art like you did for years but didn't learn anything from. how do i stop this or at least push myself to actually improve.

>>3036317
>The problem is its too open and he upvote downvote system leads to pal-tomfoolery
but you guys do that here.

>>3036319
you can draw anime art, youll still improve. Just be more introspective as to why your anime art isnt working out.

its honestly okay if thats all you do, if you like it youll learn more since youll actually be drawing more.

>>3036319
Check in with your doctor to check for perhaps an impulse control disorder if you really can't control yourself from being a fucking faggot.
For everything else; just stop drawing animu tiddies for a while

>>3036324
no, you guys do that here, its a group of 10 or so people hellbent on attacking me. We do have pal tomfoolery but thats because weve already critted each other on discord a lot of the time. It's not on the level of favor for favor complimenting like on DA.

>>3036327
>no, you guys do that here
oh so your guys are ok if they do it i see.

>>3036327
and for reference, the hate i get didnt just appear from nowhere, its been there forever, trip or no trip. Made great artists like bbc chan leave ( and he would redline all the time) because of jealousy and unfounded hatred.

https://yuki.la/ic/2330394#p2331716 remember when this used to happen all the time?

>>3036335
he left because hes already made it.

>>3036335
Answer him correctly, bitch. >>3036341

Why did BBC leave again? It's not the jealousy and unfounded hatred, now is it?

>>3036361
no, youre right, it was when he got doxxed BECAUSE of the jealousy and unfounded hatred. Definitely different.

>>3036365
That's right, my scared little bitch.

>>3036365
you got proof that some one in 4chan perpetrated it
success breeds jealousy whats new.

>>3036369
#notAll4channers

Probably was a 4channer, ya.

>>3036368
Aljosa, you will always be my little bitch,
sweetie

>>3036361

you're either m*ldraws jealous of nosebro or that one guy >>3036318 into paedophilia

>>3036371
i ask for proof some one in /ic/ did it. bbc left because had better things to do. like making money from his work.

>>3036381
i dont think maldraw would do something like that, i know hes genuinely a shitposter on /pol/ but i dont pin him as being destructive. I'd love to have a talk with him one of these days, curious to see what hes really like.

Not trying to shill but I like nosebro's art.

/ic/ is a crabs in a bucket. They all claim to want to get good; but most of them shitpost instead of practice

>>3036411
Personally i advocate for doing both!

>>3036372
>>3036381

Fear is contagious.

>>3036393
> I'd love to have a talk with him one of these days, curious to see what hes really like.

Fucking kek'd. What a pussy.

>>3036445
You need to tone it down a wee bit lol

>>3036457
I don't think drawing less is a good idea.

>>3036461
You know what I mean

>>3036473
YOU, know what i mean.

>>3036393
Classic /ic/ tear down. lol

>>3036393
Don't be so sure.

>>3036220
I have a better idea. Let's both draw something from scratch, whatever subject you want. Then /ic/ can decide who's full of shit.

If you're so good, show me up.

>>3036712
You mean like a fast draw, but actually involving drawing?
I hope the other guy accepts the challenge.

>>3036718
What do you mean by fast draw?

I just meant, he'll tell me what to draw, we'll both draw it then post here.

What's fast draw?

>>3036712
aniki is even giving him homeroom advantage where he can choose his specialty. What a splendid man.

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>>3036718
I just meant like a fast draw duel

>>3036742
Yup, like a that.

>>3036476 lol, shut up retard

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>>3036733
How much percentage am I better than you, Nose

>>3036760
like 12% as long as your faces keep up

>>3036761
I'd say at least thrice that.

>>3036765
thats not even physically possible.

How do you make money drawing anime porn?

>>3036774
Stop being stingy with your percentages, if there was a scale of 1-10 with 10 being pro I'd put you at a 3 and put him at a 6

>>3036818
If Nosebro-kun is a 3, and anon-kun is a 6, that's 100% better. If you think anon-kun is 36% better, (12×3), then anon-kun would be a 4(.08).

So which is it?

>>3036818
because youre blind to the small mistakes interspersed within the drawing. Wait a bit longer and youll be left wondering how it is i
crossed the finish line earlier than people you'd assume were ahead.

>>3036828
Akirel dont mix your autism with my autism. Or do, maybe we can amplify each others skills.

I'm interested in talking with you if you are as well by the way.

>>3036829
Work on your rendering and you'll have an edge against the guy.
Just at least figure out how to cell shade properly.

>>3036845
Why does everyone care so much about rendering? There's a lot more to good art than rendering, y'know? And good rendering doesn't really hold up a bad painting.

>>3036853
I just mean rendering as conveying form through the use of color and tone, ie "shading", and moving beyond simple outlines, which is painting.

I'm not talking about the finishing stuff that people do to make everything look like plastic.

>>3036828
I never mentioned him being 36% better....

>>3036829
If I was blind to my mistakes I'd give myself a 10 not a 6

>>3036853
That's why people who can render say. A sketch Is okay but rendering it out is what makes it amazing

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>>3036845

>>3036115
grachh, lokki, papa.png, lemon, barkode, imvisitingearth, pops, doodlingduke, godsh0t, haohi, gordon, containercore, chromatinker, reaperff7, badomens, robotcatart, naf

better than nose currently

>>3036910
There's a lot more than that my dude

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I dont get the point of nosebro. I mean great, you have better art than me, thanks for making me want to kill myself every time i see your faggity little name.

If nosebro got ran over by a car tomorrow, 2 benefits would come out of it

1.) Not be reminded so much how i am a worse artist than an autistic retard
2.) No more cancerous circle jerking.

So, why isnt this guy banned yet?

>>3033012
People who say this are literally armchair artists.

>>3036948
im a positive, uplifting member of this community!

>>3036948
Also, im sure we can be friends! ill make a video critique of your art if you apologize through vocaroo

>>3036327
Nosebro everyone hates you on the discord, you got fucking banned from there remember? As soon as you were gone people just started talking shit about you. Don't act so fondly about it, no one wants you back there

>>3036944
these are the ones off the top of my head, a lot of the even better artists don't post as much i think (catbib, olly, thorsten)

>>3036959
actually, i ctrl+f'd everything and i thought what you guys said was very nice :) I'm glad that you guys love me so much you'll follow me back into my dedicated thread!

Just because I sexually harass girls, casually remark that people of color, small stature, different religious background, different tastes in art, low economic status or of conflicting sexuality are inferior to pure catholic cis white males who like anime, i tell people to kill themselves, I threaten peoples livelihood, i spit on the poor and don't shower much you think that makes me a bad person? But you know the real bad person here is you.

I'll have you know ive profoundly impacted peoples lives and ive done so with all the love in my heart. So listen here you lil shit, im trained in emotional warfare and i can befriend in over 300 different ways. Don't mess with me, just know that you're just another guy that i like. You're facebook friended kiddo.

>>3036760
Hey these look pretty good, like the perspective work going on there. How long you have you been drawing for Anon?

>>3037027
6 months.

>>3037115
What's the truth

>>3036968
God you have no self awareness, you come off like a glib little shit but you think youre so post ironic and great

>>3037125
you're not mildly entertained?

>>3037122
I'm not lying, I trained 12 hours a day for 6 months. I started drawing seriously this year, it was my new years resolution. Before that, I drew like once or twice a year.

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>>3037122
This was my skill level before the 6 months of hardcore training.

>>3032727
I give Nosebro a 4/10.

>>3037137
If you don't mind me asking, what helped the most with building the body like the leftmost drawing of your original post. Was it just using the sticky, or did you use other sources to help you achieve that?

>>3037185
>believing his fanciful tale.

>>3037187
Cmon Nosebahroh there is your less than 6 months proof.

>>3037187
Don't see how achieving that in six months is impossible dude, what's a more believable time period of going from beginner to that level of art?

>>3037187
To be honest it is possible, but only if he worked really fucking hard and has a bit more IQ than the average lad

>>3037202
1y3m
>>3037210
find me a single person who has done it on record.

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>>3037220
>find me a single person who has done it.
From their sketches, anon's progress looks perfectly reasonable to me.
I don't know where I fall on the spectrum, but fast progress isn't unreasonable in any form.
Also how do you "conclusively" determine skill level from 1/8th finished sketches? All I can see in that is anon has good understanding of proportion, perspective (and a bit of forced perspective), foreshortening, gesture... And possibly faces... But without completing them it's really hard to tell anything about their overall skill without any details or final linework.
I'm just a hobbyist... I'm no genius, and besides trying to make sure I draw at least something most days, I don't go overboard. I take breaks too.
Remember this /beg/ thread? This was the best I could do in February, and it's frightening to me now... Until middle of Dec 2016 I hadn't picked up a pencil since high school, and hadn't drawn anything since before that.
I've got some embarrassingly shitty stuff from January on my drive.
>>3035278
>>3035280
That's now... I'll follow up with a digital sketch of your pirate.

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>>3037463
Here's enough of a sketch to get the idea.
>>3037220
By the way, are you gonna finish those redlines?

>>3037464
Perhaps I'll finish it later if I see you... Or trade you for the finished redlines of my sketches.

>>3037220
Sinix

>>3037463
>>3037464
>>3037638
not of these are comparable in scale or frame.

>>3037676
Nosebro just because your shitty studying methods combined with your low mental capacity give you slow progress doesn't mean everyone else is like that

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>>3037685
Wrong Version
>>3037676
I understand that's what you're saying, but I want to know what specifically tells you that?
What aspects of their sketch page tell you that?
That's why I asked a bunch of questions in >>3037463
...
Also I drew your stuff without tracing over your lines... Your turn.
Either of the ones you redlined...?
I scribbled a bit more.

>>3037691
Correction. A single question, with a bunch of potential answers.

>>3037690
show me a single example of someone reaching my level from nothing in 6 months.

>>3037717
Nobody starts from literally nothing except little children. Don't move the goalposts NoseySenpai.
Answer the questions and do the drawing.
Still pretty unclear on exactly what your level is...?

>>3037691
You're actually worse than nose honestly. What are you trying to prove here?

1 year if you really phone it in.

>>3037782
nice try nosebro.

>basic anaotomy done poorly
>no perspective
>extremely easy shading/ style
It shouldn't take you a month.

>>3035050

For fucks sake, nosebro, 1 hour is hardly a warmup. You're probably at 'peak' levels by the time you're ready to stop.

Diminishing returns in terms of practice efficiency only starts becoming relevant after several hours. If you're taking regular breaks you could probably do 5-6 without any diminishing returns at all.

Just do yourself a favor, if you're only going to draw for an hour a day admit it's because you're either too busy or too lazy to draw more, don't fill your head with that nonsense.

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>>3032727
I would like to have the fundamental knowlege and line quality that noseman has.

>tfw you want to flirt with nosebro on discord but dont want to become pariah of /ic/

>>3038126
back of he is MINE only

>>3038127
off*

>>3036712
It's rare that I venture into /ic/ aside from the occasional art book thread, but I have to say, this particular thread interested me. Reading through it, it brought me back to my younger days when I posted my work on deviantArt and DREADED the 4chan groups who used to raid me on a constant basis, based on how incredibly hollow my artwork was and how incredibly narcissistic I made myself out to be.

This reply stood out to me based on several factors, some of which peaked my interest. This challenge sounds interesting, and if the anon who first posted doesn't answer this challenge, I'm certainly up to the task.

However, posting our work here benefits no one. I imagine you have your group of followers who would much rather tear into the competition based on allegiance alone.

What I propose is simple, and I'm sure that you'll be up to the task. Why don't we go into each of the draw threads here on 4chan and pick the same request we'd both like to work on. We give our absolute best illustration—not holding back— in which ever medium we each find is our best strength. That way, neither of us gives the other an unfair advantage. We don't hold back in our deliveries, and if others choose, they can relay those images for critique back here on /ic/ for "critiques".

The ultimate winner however, will be the person who requested the work. If you truly talk the talk about being so humble and you talk to other artists based on their level of humility, then look no further. I believe you may have found a challenger worthy of this supposed challenge.

I'm sure I'll lose by /ic/ standards. Those screaming from the sidelines will scream out Loomis at me, tell me my foreshortening is off or my composition is wrong, tossing at me art school jargon that I've barely researched, let alone implement on my work. I already know I'm going to lose.

So, what say you? Is this something you're interested in, or do you find the thought of drawing outside of yourself... >>

>>3038202
<<...not that important? After all, what I'm merely proposing is really for the benefit of others, not us personally in particular.

And when I mean drawing a request, we're not just going for the simple gesture design as some of you have already done. Our deliveries will be spectacular, nothing short of $200 dollar commission status, if not more.

Our details will be intricate, our work as a whole will be over-embellished. This is going to be an absolute treat for the requester. We'll not only be giving them two amazing cakes, we'll be drawing for someone other than ourselves, which I imagine, is the ultimate goal for any artist. We're not going to draw for our egos. No. We're going to draw for a select few of individuals—for free.

Now, you're completely in your right to deny this challenger by any means. Perhaps, you were looking to oust the individual who called you out on certain things all along this thread, and of course you can do that. 4chan is no longer the cutthroat, savage wasteland it used to be back in 2006. If lose I will, it will be by a generation who know nothing about a complete tear down of an artist, re-arranging their perspective on what they do and COMPLETELY humble them down to the core. I was fortunate enough to have been one of those artists who survived that upbringing, and through that rageaholic torment, I emerged a better artist.

Again, I leave this up to you. I am no one, I am nobody, I am nothing. I'm just an individual who happen to come across this thread, heed the call of a particular challenge, and see if you were up to the task as well.

If this is something that doesn't appeal to you, I'll fade back into the background, go back to the draw threads and pick up requests on my free time in order to make a few anonymous users happy, if only for a request at a time.

I've discovered the true nature of what I do, and it makes me happy. Truly happy.

>>3037803
>too lazy
But to be honest, i am quite busy. I will be busy for another year and a half until the PyeongChang 2018 mental gymnastics competition.

Look, I know 1 hour isnt enough. but thats when i get bored.
>>3038126
if it makes you feel good I can confess my love to you for 5$, I can do long winded, quick and to the point, whispering or confident.
>>3038217
You should drop art and go back to /lit/
>>3037872
funny enough, boxman is getting more free fanart.
>>3037691
im not sure if you're serious or not, but id recommend you look back on this in 1 year and see how you feel about it.

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fucking sick of all the shitty redlines, so I finished >>3035404

I just did this for fun, so no bully pls

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>>3037872
oh by the way, just remember this quick tip: if you do things in one solid stroke, its more likely to be correct. Real life has an inherent flow which favors this to be true, if i just passed over your lines it would look much better. One example of this is pic related, if you had just done one stroke, independent of how unskilled or unprecise, it would still be better that what you ended up with.

>>3038267
I'm afraid you're incorrect in what you're trying to say here. You're referring to a piece of artwork that was meant to be a sketch, and by no means, a finished product.

Things drawn in one solid stroke also have the ability to be incorrect, especially when you're drawing. We often under mind the importance of sketching, which is valuable in itself, though some of us are groomed to draw every single line we do to its absolute perfection.

Your gesture drawing video is full of what you're trying to "teach" here, which not only makes you look hypocritical, it also makes you come off as quite the unseasoned artist to begin with. Though I imagine you had somewhat of a good intention in trying to define the same problem you have.

And I'm sure you tried to come up with a joke on your last reply here, but to be completely honest and not be rude, I wasn't considering your challenge, this entire reply was meant for someone else. You injecting yourself into a conversation that did not involve you in any way only means that you do enjoy being the center of attention. Your like the kid who ran around and pulled on girls hair on the playground with an obnoxious, ill-tempered laughter that I'm sure brought the attention of those people responsible looking out for the kids at lunchtime.

Had you been around in 2006, you would have been eaten alive posting the amount of unsolicited garbage you do. You're really in a time where nothing can hurt you here, and you know it. Those responsible for tearing down an uneducated, below average artist are long gone. You truly are a king of nothing here, with no kingdom to rule but the only one you've gestated in your head.

But I did notice a few replies up above that you froze for a moment when someone called you out. Your frantic search for that person who made you shake as you read their words was just like me back when I was young.

But your 4chan is different. It's kid-friendly. Its bark is worse than its bite.

>>3038293
holy shit im not reading another one of these please be fucking concise.

>>3038293
actually i read it all, once you start it's really easy to finish i guess.

>>3038293
And I'm sure you'll come up with some mediocre, unoriginal thought to make me look like an ass. Something along the lines of, "I know you are, but what am I?", to which I would reply a nice smile to, and just leave you alone.

Again, you're in the kid-friendly 4chan now, almost overrun by those at deviantArt— kids who feel absolutely safe here when posting, whatever they please. You find comfort in that thought alone, and that's why you answer, or have tried to answer honestly, the way that you have throughout this entire thread. You're trying to capture a relevance 15 seconds long, no longer the 15 minutes of fame. Love me, get angry with me, hate me for what I have to say, but above everything else, recognize me. Because to be honest, I'm nothing without your attention.

You're feeding into the same kind of tripe I ate several years ago, but I'll have to honestly say, my tripe yielded results. You may not see those kind of results, ever. Your hollowness keeps growing, the center of your universe has already collapsed into itself, and I wonder if you need some form of special attention from those who practice it on a regular basis.

Am I safe to assume that you might be mentally incapable of understanding that which you're doing here? Do you really feel invulnerable, knowing that none of this can really hurt you?

Maybe it's just me. Maybe I saw a bit of myself in you and thought, "I remember those days." But again, 4kids is here to stay, I suppose.

>>3035055
aint that the fucking truth

>>3038297
See, I was right! You did come up with something incredibly short. You show your age, and that's a good thing I suppose.

Well, I'm going to stop replying to you now. Again, I'm interested in what this other person has to say about the challenge he or she put forth, but with a few minor tweaks here and there to make the challenge a bit more fun.

I appreciate the thought of you saying what you had to say, but I don't find it in my best interest to, ramble on about the particulars of this challenge put forth...unless, you'd like to take on that challenge yourself?

Could you see past that thick, murky aura you've surrounded yourself with and draw for others for free, with commission like quality work that will benefit the requester on whatever particular draw thread we choose?

You seem to want to be the center of attention so, now I'm asking you. Are you interested?

>>3038306
>>3038306
im just having a bit of senseless fun and you extrapolate an imploding galaxy. You're advocating for consequences when you're probably the same person who throws the anonymity rhetoric. I'm glad you're old and sour and have been here for a longer time, A+ on being on quadrachin longer though. I'm glad you let it define you as a human.

Please be fucking concise or at least send me an audio file for any future responses.

Whats the hidden agenda around free art? Are you looking to fool people into drawing for you? Are you even aware of the taboo of free art on this particular board?

>>3038312
I'm not asking for anyone to draw for me. I'm drawing for them. And no, I don't particularly care what other people think about free art. You seem afraid of it though. What are you afraid of, actually?

And I won't be concise about what I need to write, or, how I explain it to you. You're old enough to understand what I'm saying; you can obviously read.

So, would you consider taking up the challenge I've mentioned before?

>>3038316
Now, before you answer, consider what I'm asking. I was just passing by, I stumbled across this thread, and I found the challenge interesting. Not many artists draw for free, and according to your statistics, it's primarily taboo. An unforgiving, soulless, dreadful task that NO artist in their RIGHT mind should undertake lest they be ousted by their peers here on 4chan, on /ic/ of all places.

A simple yes or no will suffice. No one's going to think less of you if, you decide in your almighty thought, that the prospect of drawing for someone else is just not in the realm of your abilities. And that's okay, not all of us are meant for that.

>>3038316
Well, the mentality here is that drawing for free is devaluing the industry/art-form. IE programmers dont program for free, policeman dont police for free, etc. so why should you. Honestly, I absolutely love that you're willing to undertake the challenge and your willingness to put money where your mouth is. I just don't do free art, ironically, top post is the only time ive ever done it ( unless you count redlining free art).

The thing about long responses is that people only react to one point and throw back three. Just like how you didnt have to respond when i said that you let 4C_seniority define you, and how I couldn't be bothered to answer all your points.

Not only that, you lengthen your text with pseudo_questions that are not meant to be answered. If youre genuinely interested we can talk it out, which is my preferred medium for shitposting.

>>3038323
And I mean that in the nicest way. I'm not here to judge you, or judge the capacity for free art from anyone else who doesn't want to do it. Quite frankly, I'm glad I do draw free art from time to time for those people on the draw threads. If nothing else comes of it, at least I drew something...

Which is what /ic/ yearns to do. Isn't that why all of you are here and, why you post the things that you do? Unless I'm wrong, and you all are just here to bicker and complain, tear each other down, mask the insecurities of your own passion with obscene, hallway-eske cat calling with absolutely no consequences whatsoever.

And of course, this truly does show my age, doesn't it.

>>3038324
your the one that assumed he was asking for free art. i guess thats one way of derailing the original conversation.

>>3038328
eloquence, pride and overanalysis are all that are being transmitted. You may think we are interpreting this as maturity, but that is wrong.

The soul of i/c is a community where we all aspire to improve whilst throwing the shit. May it be complaining about normies, trashtalking, artistic memes, in-talk, specialized ˡᶦᵍᵃmemes, etc.

Though a lot of stuff is done to preserve pride and ego, most of us are here as friends. I've talked to many people who hate me and befriended quite a few before they caught on to who i was, nobody here genuinely means harm to others.

>>3038324
Well then, I'll wait to see if this other person answers my reply. Thank you for humoring me they way you have, it was gently entertaining to say the least. I'm sorry you don't approve of creating free art, it's a shame you don't at least experience it truly for at least one time in your life.

And I'm not a programmer, and I'm not a police man. I have the time and freedom in my life to undertake a task as taboo as free art, because like I mentioned before in a previous reply, I truly am happy and have discovered a truth that many artists will seek forever in their lives, and never truly find it.

Thank you for understanding the reason why I stopped by and answered the call to action. Though putting my money where my mouth is, is not the kind of undertone I'd like to imply with what I'm asking here.

Though in reality, maybe that's what artists on here should do with each other. Instead of asking, "Post your work", you'd find a better understanding of what an artist's true agenda is when you ask them ,"Draw something for free, and draw it well."

This, in turn, will separate those who truly love what they have set out in their lives to do, to those who have very little imagination and humility to see outside of themselves, to draw for someone else, to make someone else happy rather than themselves.

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, criticize. Those who can't criticize, envy those who can.

>>3038342
>will separate those who truly love what they have set out in their lives to do
Why gatekeep, I genuinely no longer love to draw. It's not inherently wrong. I have goals not of sharing happiness, but rather increasing my successful. I feel as much love for my hobby as i do for my job and theres nothing wrong with that as my base happiness is quite high.

>>3038347
It's just a hobby to you. Now I understand. I guess that's a no, then.

>>3038267
I think I see what you mean. If I ever learn how to draw a straight line this would prove quite usefull, Thanks nosedude.

>>3038293
I'm afraid sketches are all I can draw so far.
Sure I could polish up the lines a bit but thats it.
Inking, coloring and shading is still to hard for me to grasp.

>>3038259
If you'd stop shitposting you could draw for another hour.

>>3038515
if i stopped shitposting i wouldnt feel like drawing

>>3038532
you're beyond help

>>3038661
ill draw one thing for every one thing you draw in this thread

>>3038664
not your personal coach.

i couldn't care less if you draw or not. it's just sad how you waste your time and potential.

>>3038664
You didn't do that for me though...
I think you're lying...

>>3038259
>im not sure if you're serious or not, but id recommend you look back on this in 1 year and see how you feel about it.
I already know that. I get it, it sucks and I'll see that on my own if I wait... I'm an acknowledged beginner, and a hobbyist, with 6 months casual experience... I was hoping you might have some insight, so I'm pushing you to draw something, and finish the redlines you started, by drawing your stuff...

>>3038812
wait i dont get your goal, i thought you were trying to redline me. Is that not the case?

>>3038826
No way man, I said it in my post. Your redlines were helpful, I'd like to see them finished, especially the detail work... Perhaps your own interpretation if you were sick of the redlines themselves... So I figured I'd provoke you a bit by drawing your stuff.

>>3038826
Not a redline... It was just a practice exercise with your subject...
And what I said in >>3038886
...so close to quads.

>>3038888
GET!
Now you have to... I think.

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watashhhhhi..

>>3039081
fucking slit eye

>>3039498
NoseBro, can you do another female warrior type drawing as in the OP?

I want to try and re-draw what you draw and compare.

>>3039543
whats with the sudden mild obsession?

>>3039543
Seconding this, that was fun!

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>>3039798
j4u puts

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>>3039827
Not puts but thanks, noseperson.

>>3039920
i dont get it though, why did you want me to draw so you could draw the same thing?

>>3035349
same my nigga
Nothing can beat Sai for Lineart, not even Clip studio. I've tested both and Clip Studio still has a fraction of a delay behind the cursor when using a cintiq. It's small, but makes a huge difference on how drawing feels and the confidence you have in your accurate strokes.

Nile, what the fuck is going on in /ic/? Why is there this Nosebro faggot acting like he's a good shit and why is causing all this bullshit on all the threads? I remember when this place used to have more critiques and people getting their asses ripped to pieces but now it's full of people just talking and not drawing. Fucking hell, I'm going back to the downloaded books from the resource thread, thats all /ic/'s good for now

>>3040379
yeah yeah this is your 400th time complaining and yet you'll continue to post outside of the resource thread while saying all the great critique people left (which they haven't i.e teal who STILL posts month week randomly).

>>3040399
lol I gotta check sometimes, I'm too much of an optimist even when I know it's not going to get better

>>3039985
who cares, you drew something and i drew something and drawing is always better than not drawing.

>>3036314
you do realize that you can't keep up this facade forever, right?

Like, you can brute-force now, but a few months from now it's going to hit you, and you'll feel like dying.

I hope you don't die though, I hope you gain some maturity from it and stop acting like a waste of space human being.

And before you say to yourself "I'm just acting like this, I'm better than these guys I've fooled!"

You're not, it's transparent, everyone can see behind your facade of edgy-posting and they STILL know there's a worthless human being behind the keyboard.

Grow up anon, I wish you maturity and humility.

>>3040543
You should know better than anyone that what you write is not a reflection of who you are. People have assumed tons of things wrongly from my typing because they don't get my intentions, and the same is probably true from you and him.

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>>3040379
idk man, Nosey's trying to help, and shitpost a little bit while helping.
And ye it's kinda sad seeing less drawing and more talking now a days but i guess that just shows what kind of people visit the board. People who dont really like drawing that much lol.
I'd love to see this place get better but i have a hard time seeing it coming to fruition any time soon.
What we need is more people willing to trip, less witch hunting threads and simply having more people here who actually like drawing and believe in hard work rather than magic tricks and ancient tombs of knowledge

>>3040559
why is tori a senpai when he cant even draw and is like 35?

Honestly, nosebro witchhunting threads are fine, as long as the other artists don't get attacked then everyone benefits.

>>3040564
Tori's a good egg.
Solid senpai material

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>>3039827
Almost forgot that I was working on that one before leaving for work.

now its done, fun stuff.

>>3040565
Tori doesnt have a single redeemable senpai quality. Should've went the grantsru route.
>>3040567
off balance

>>3040559
I thought tori quit drawing.