/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

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day 4 or so of feet.
right track? current level?

>>3029610

Do you have any finished work?

>>3029610
>For Free? USAFlagWithNotEnoughStars
What did they mean by this?

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>>3029637
does this count?

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Getting back into drawing.
I did this today, all from references.
Any help?
I'm really a total beginner at rending and not sure where to start other than do studies.

>>3029655
Did you draw those cute anime girls, anon? Really really good, got a blog? Also, for rendering, the best thing you can do is just studies then try to apply to your own works. It's a thing you understand the more you do it and see it. Your forms could use some more refining as in smoothing out the shadows. They read just as they should though.

>>3029659
Yeah, I drew them. It's from reference though, so not exactly impressive.
I don't have a blog either.
Thanks for the comments.

>>3029642
No. It looks unfinished. Really digging the big, fat outline though.

The issue with running with a 'painterly', loose style like this, is that it's so hard to define what it means to be finished.

>>3029688
what is your personal definition of 'painterly'?

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How do I do this?

>>3029703
by feeling the form.

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>>3025221
from a couple threads ago

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>>3029713
and some messy hands. i really need to figure out how to make fingers look right cause my foreshortened hand is pretty shitty

>>3029703
Also by having a real model.

>>3029610

Nice. But you need some refining around the face.

Also get inspired by this awesome artist

https://www.artstation.com/artist/cedricpeyravernay

His brushwork is amazing... Do some studies of his work if you want.

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>>3029578

Its like we are getting a /beg/ thread every day now. When did this board start moving so fast?

>>3029801
summer.

>>3029801
summer

>>3029801
Shadman inspired me.

Now i want to just draw THICC lolis.

EXTRA THICC if i can handle it.

>>3029756
Thanks. And yeah he is actually one of my main inspirations! What a coincidence.

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should i scrap it..
stuck at some point and polishing like turd all day

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Before I make any more progress on this piece of shit, what details should I work on the most, I can't shake off the feeling that I'm messing up the face, someone please help

>>3029807
Something is off with how that right leg is bending down.
You should figure out what it is and why it looks off and fix it for your own experience.

should i just autistically draw figures for 15 hours a day

>>3029815
If you wanna burn yourself out on the first day, sure. Unless you got the mental fortitude that would be required, then be my fucking guest

>>3029815
nah, you'll burn out and never want to draw agan and you will spend the rest of your like looking at anime tiddie cartoons wishing you could draw that good and you will live your entire life with self disappointment i fucked a loli that you never learned to really draw and when you are on your deathbed you will sort of feel at peace because you know that soon you wont have to live your life in regret much longer because there wont be any more life to live or chances you choose not to take.

>>3029815
Only if you won't quit. You'll get mad gains.

>>3029815
Some of it will stick and some of it won't. I've done the study like a nutcase thing before when it comes to anatomy.

Things are more likely to stick, and you will waste much less time, if you solve problems in work that you actually want to do instead of just studying for the sake of studying.

Practice should be 2ndary to doing actual art.

Just like if you were learning to play basketball, you'd play a lot of games of basketball with your friends, and then practice dribbling and shooting hoops by yourself on the side.

You might practice a LOT by yourself, at some point, but none of it will help you as much if you aren't playing actual games.

Doing actual art you want to do and finishing it, is like playing a game of basketball, and training your knowledge etc. just for the sake of training, is like practising dribbling and taking shots by yourself.

>>3029853
>tfw start own drawing
>sucks
>get back to study
>after a month
>get back at it
>still sucks
>repeat endless cycle until possibly master level
Not sure if this is how sports work or not. I've heard athletes mainly work out and stuff instead of actually doing the sport.

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Tell me what i need to improve on.

>>3029573
Alright, current blog, I'll post my work in the morning. I've put down Loomis for now to move back to Keys to Drawing to actually work through the exercises gradually. I'm planning on spending like 3-4 weeks working through it at this pace, in addition to grinding Drawabox exercises as warmups. Does this make sense as a good "back to basics" routine? My plan is by the end of the summer to go back to Loomis so that I can start actually putting my own ideas down on paper.

>>3029933
Doesn't really matter what you say or plan, it matters what you do though.

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Any directions for these two drawings?

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>>3029951

>>3029952
I can tell you're a Terada fan.

>>3029951
The features, the eyes, nose, and mouth, don't quite fin inside the frame of the face.

Draw out a center line, and do some guides in perspective to help you place the eyes, brows, nose, and mouth.

>>3029957
Thanks! Any tips on studying how to position the features when the face becomes distorted (i.e. subject opens mouth to shout?)

>>3029862
That's bad, I did that for like 3 months and couldn't improve my imagination drawing at all. You have to practice your imagination drawing separately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B53wYHJ2yQ

This video explains the concept pretty well. You have to practice BOTH. Musicians that never improvise are not good at improvising.

I started practicing a lot more of imagination drawing for the last week and I already feel a bit of difference.

Athletes play a friendly game at the end of each training day, in most practice routines. Plus, sports is quite different, when you practice playing Tennis you are doing almost the exact same things you do in a real match, except separating them one by one, on the other hand, when you do studies you are literally copying what you see, while when you're drawing from imagination you're not.

>>3029966
Yah, generally just knowing the distance between the bottom lip and jaw could help but the distortion is more to do with perspective.

I think you did an okay job of showing the bottom teeth at a different angle from the top of the mouth, your issues are more to do with fitting the features inside the face.

It's like 12:30 here so I was hoping to help just by text but maybe I'll break out the pen just once here before bed and show you that way.

>>3029935
I mean I'm a week into Keys to Drawing as is. I'm just laying out a more structured approach to gitting gud.

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I need some references for animu torso please

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>>3029957
Ok, so solution one is to erase the features and make them fit the perspective of the head. Solution two would be to redraw the head to fit the direction of the features that you have drawn if you want the face to be pointed that way.

The attached picture is how you would begin solution one.

>>3029993
I see, thanks so much for your help!

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>>3029994
This would be the easier solution for you, and probably closer to what you want. But I would urge you to try solution one just for the sake of learning.

Make a digital copy or something so you don't wear in the original.

>>3029994
Wear in = don't ruin the original. Autocorrect destroys my messages.

And welcome

>3029501
not me, sorry.

>>3029501
>>3030007
mislink. sorry.

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>>3029994
The face I chiselled here is super masculine but you get the idea. It's super late now so I'm out, Night! God bless.

>>3029996
>>3030031
kek this place needs more people like you.

How long does it usually take to get out of the "Beginner" phase?

>>3030076
Art doesn't really work like that. A beginner can do something amazing, and an experienced artist can do something crappy.

The real change is consistency. The more you are consistently good, that's the sign of true improvement.

When you can consistently make art that is 'good', then you're what I would call pro.

There is no definite beginner tier phase that I could personally point to. You just get more and more consistent with time.

Also though, you could cheat that. By spending 100x longer on your art than other beginners, you could make pro art right away, and then over the years you would just take less and less time to make pro art.

There are people who do something in between that too. Most people who are successful young, that I know of, do the last one I mentioned.

Cartoonist type people usually draw a ton, and gain consistency later, I think, whereas gallery people do few works, but finish them, and spend a zillion hours on each piece, and slowly the time it takes them to do pieces gets shorter as they gain experience.

Then like I said there are in betweeners.

>>3029807
you should work on that hand, she should be using more fingers on that sock, if you scrap it and start all over you will just be practicing stuff you are already good at.

Its very important to practice stuff you cant do and not practice what you can, as obviuse as that is.

>>3029896
proper anatomy in perspective, get better acquainted with proper figure drawing. Its clear that you are not very failure with the human form.

>>3029622
Yeah, I think you're on a good path. It looks like you're actively/consciously thinking about the whole form of the foot in a 3D sense, which seriously helps when drawing them, as well as pretty much anything. Make sure you're drawing from references as well as imagination so you can increase your visual/mental library of foot positions.

This is more of a personal taste, but the more parts of a body I study at once, the more helpful I find the study. Instead of just drawing a single or pair of feet, I'd include the everything up to the hips. This of course has the drawback of being a little slower, but I think it's worth trying out.

>>3029810
Yeah, your heads too big. All though im not sure where im supposed to be standing in apropos to perspective so i could be wrong if im supposed to be standing above her.

but if its eye level the heads too big

>>3029622
Its not enough to draw feet, you also have to add them to the body in proper proportion and perspective to the rest of the piece. Thats where im really struggling at

>>3030088
What is proper figure drawing?

>>3030094
If you are actually interested: Go to your local library and pick up figure drawing by michael hampton, proper figure drawing is looking at real humans and drawing them realistically to gain knowledge of how the body works so you can properly draw them from imagination in what ever perspective you wish.

If you are trying to pick a fight about semantics: Fuck off you know what im talking about

Is drawing from photography references really so much worse than drawing from life?

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Say I decided to self impose the restriction of using solely two hard colors on my second drawing, say that this drawing is a human figure. How crap should it turn out?

>>3030130
how many more vapid attention grabbing questions do you have?

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>>3030141
I don't know how many replies are you going to post without answering a single question?

>>3030130
>>3030148
>double retarded reaction emoji

i was going to answer your equally retarded question but you seem like a cancerous person

do you have a personal channel in your discords dedicated to memes that nobody looks at (other than their own)

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>>3030150
>he doesn't use emoticons ironically
Because posting a single type of image makes me more cancerous than not caring about the subject at hand right?

>>3029576
>>3029575
>>3029574
Nobody in this thread is going to get better with these tiny images

>>3030268
It's to help blur your eyes and not symbol draw.

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Talk to me doc - how bad is it?

>>3030271
that is not my intention but i will go with this defense although i acknowledge the concerns of the opposition.

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One month. How am I doing?

Is gesture only used for drawing figures?
What about portraits or objects?

>>3030282
I hope I can be as good as you in a month

>>3030282
Someone actually took loomis seriously. That's great, finally.

>>3030272
ill help you if you draw your hand 5 times, alternating between ref'd and not ref'd.

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>>3030282
if you just had more elegant lines itd go better. heres a mouse passover to show just how much confidence, big picture thinking, and minor skill ( neck) alone can affect your drawing

>>3030305

Sorry for my autism but could you define ref'd and not ref'd?

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>>3029793
one stroke for top of head or its like his skull was smashed in.

>>3029655
leave beg. body is top heavy and you should use bigger brushes.

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>>3029610

>>3030310
you do one referenced, the next from pure imagination. so, ref'd, not, ref'd, not, ref'd, not

Your question cost you one hand. so 6 total.

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>>3030317
for you.

>>3030321

I guess i'll give it a try

>>3030322

nosebro (or his impersonator) gave good advice for once, but remember the fag proudly claims he never uses refs and is generally mediocrity incarnate. Take his advice with a grain of salt in most cases.

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>>3030349
fucking post your work. ill outskill you any day of the week. My non use of reference is like rock lees weight training. Weight and see what I can achieve when i finally unleash my shackles. I'll build an empire with my vast amount of shekels.

Mark my words.

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>art college
>get asked who my inspirations are
>say Frank Frazetta
>get called a sexist

Am I supposed to draw gesture from reference or imagination?

>>3030474
>Going to Art lessons
>pleb

Why are you doing this?

>>3030476
"Supposed"

Obviously you're supposed to one day reach a level in which you can draw decent looking hands feet etc. without needing a photo nearby.

But since no one is realistically expected to do that adequately from the get go, you should use reference for pretty much anything problematic until your style and experience compensate for it and you can draw them from the imagination

>>3030358
not even him but "post your work" is such a cop out. you dont have to be good at art to critisize.

>>3030494
You don't have to be a chef to determine whether a dish is bad or not.

But it sure as hell seems odd when your customer tells you how to cook his gourmet meal as if he has the slightest idea what the fuck he's talking about.

>>3030476
From reference. After a while you'll start to get it enough to do things from imagination but the whole point of gesture is to take a reference and push the pose to show movement. It reinforces proper drawing process, teaches you proportion, trains your eye to see shapes and do quick measurements, hell you can even train in memory drawing with it.
Learn some anatomy as you go, too. Learning the skeleton and any muscles you don't understand helps you shit out drawings faster.

>>3030499
this is why food critics exsist. Theyre not chefs but theyre trained to review. The chef can become lazy in their ways and think certain flavor pairings are the best when a simple change could enhance it completely

I have a real problem coming up with poses to draw. Is that commonly experienced?

>>3030545
Yah, observe and/or draw people in a real setting, like th emall. But don't just observe, ask yourself why they are posed a certain way. Pay attention to how people pose themselves in different situations. When talking, explaining, upset, flirting, etc.

>>3030499
Yeah but Nosebro is a joke, a memer, really always take what he says with a grain of salt. He thinks he's hot shit here in the /beg/ threads but he always gets laughed at in draw threads.

Is it ok to take a break from art if you suddenly get hit by a very bad, depressive mood? I really can't force myself to learn anything new, not to even consider drawing for now.

>>3030599
I do it all the time, but I always come back later. We may not make it, but atleast we ain't gonna give up.

>>3030599
Hans, get the zyklon-B

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>symbol draw
>at least you're not symbol drawing
Who else here is devilishly talented?

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Having trouble finishing polishing this turd. It is a copy of some other dudes fan art, but I was trying to make it less cartoonish. I did not succeed. Any 1 got any thing on making that metal look like metal and so on.

I will only consider what you say if you do a paint over to demonstrate your point.

How big is the hand? Give me some reference I can compare it to. Like how a human is 7 heads tall or something like that.

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When drawing something like this, should I still draw the arms under the robe?

>>3030693
yes, do the basic construction of them. no need for detail.

>>3029793
ears are way too high bro

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Tips? Tried to render some katanas earlier and did this one from imagination.

I'm not a weeb by the way.

What benefit can I get from drawing skulls?

>>3030811
understanding how to do draw faces better

>>3030810
How do I learn to render as good as you?

>>3030738
Wait, I'm supposed to do construction when drawing from reference?

>>3030824
Don't bully, man, I'm trying my best here.

>>3030810
I dont think this was directed towards me, but that image actually helps me.

>>3030824
go to ctrlpaint or read scott robertsons how to render and learn how to render even better than that pleb

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>>3030830
>yfw I'm actually doing both

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Any advice?

>>3030858
>>3030874
>>3030878
stop being autistic

Can i get a guide to lineart? My rough sketches look nothing like when i trace over them to make them clean.

>>3030593
youre acting like my reputation is thread specific

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>>3030474
>art college

>>3030312
>leave beg
???
Thanks for the comments though.

>>3030894
>???
posting cute anime girls is not allowed and you will get memed into oblivion if you keep posting them, that's just how we do things ;)

>>3030894
he means move up onto the draw thread, which is supposedly the "better" beginner thread.

basically he is saying you are good enough to move on up. I agree.

>>3030899
Not him, but

>post anime grill at stylization thread
>get told to come here
>read this

What now?

>>3030904
leave /ic/, it's for shitposting ONLY

>>3030906
Well, shitposting about art is better than doing nothing, I guess.

>>3030904
are you >>3029655 ?
if so either move up to the draw thread or work on improving animu in style thread.

If not then ig post work here so we can see where you need improvement.

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>>3030910
My last turd.

>>3030894
why are u taking anything he says seriously lmao

>>3030913
i would say spend some time here in the beg thread. read through the sticky and work on things like anatomy, proportion, gesture, the fundies basically. If you are going for a more anime style thats fine, just learn to incorporate it into your studies and don't use it as an excuse to hide your flaws.

Most of all just keep working at it anon.

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I just can't wake up

(wake me up inside)

>>3030918
It's soul crushing to work on that like crazy to get told to work on that. I'm not saying I mastered anything, of course, I'm just saying that basically what I do 80% of the time is trying to grind the fundoos just to get told to grind more every time. Just venting tho, gonna keep doing it anyways, it just hurts like anything else.

Thanks, mate.

>>3030924
doesn't make it less soul crushing but we're in this with you

>>3030924
If you get that advice, just keep drawing what you do, grinding is only a supplement to help your drawings. You don't think it's 90% grind and 10% own work do you? You need a balance between the two.

>>3030316
the lines aren't straight across and the "lighter than eye" thing is a case of either makeup or stylistic choice.

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spicy shit studies incoming

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>>3030968
too big my bad

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Bad Ass Goku

>>3030961
>>3030924
This, it should be 50/50 imo

>>3030983
saved for inspo

>>3030977
i know im supposed to be looking at her from the side but that nose bridge looks like im looking at it from directly in front.

>>3030988
that's the asian effect

>>3030983
someone post the 3d version

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>>3030983
Have we gone too far?

>>3030989
>>3030878
No, it looks right in the reference.

>>3030991
Its... beautiful

>>3030993
yeah, asian noses have a mona lisa affect
they always look at you

>>3030878
hey i saw that pic on insta. loved it. your drawings clearly off tho. go back to construction, youre making too many obvious mistakes.

remember, work general -> specifics. Like look at her shoulders, man. jesus christ.

Where do I get started with anatomy?

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Good figure practicing?

>>3031058
the human body

>>3031058
boobs of course

>>3031058
leave /ic/ go take a life drawing class, you'll get a teacher who can actually tell where you need improvement. 99% of people here have no idea what they're talking about or will only give you vague ideas on what you should be working on. Ignore all advice on this shithole of a site. Figure it out on your own and you'll be a lot better off.

>>3031069
why are you here anon?

>>3031075
he thinks he's the one guru who's right, the 1%

>>3031069
>Ignore all advice
>including my own
Every time.

>>3031069
>tfw i fell for the life drawing meme
never again

>>3031079
How did you get through it?

>>3031075
>>3031076
>>3031077
>>3031079
such sage advice - bashing me when there's someone who actually needs help with their art.
>>3031079
Lol life drawing is a meme now? thats new - so are you going to help anon with his anatomy then?

>>3031085
I was genuinely curious; why are you here if you disregard all the advice

>>3031085
Everything will be judged as a meme on /ic/ by lazy asses who try something once for 5 minutes and are disappointed when it doesn't turn them into a master overnight.

>>3031058

Ignoring the auts fest.

Just pick a piece of the body and work on that.

Split it up into segments instead of having to do the whole picture, thinking of everything in simple lines it good idea too.

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hope you like.

>>3031108
You posted in the wrong thread, there's a style and draw thread you can post to.

>>3031111

check. em

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>>3029578
pls help, i know the mouth is to "up" so i have that thing going

>>3031113
you used a straight line instead of actually looking how the mouth's shaped. (im talking about the line between the lips)

>>3031063
Do you have any good references?

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>>3031108
You drew Tohru completely wrong

Try again

>>3031124

In what judgment?

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Is this a two-point perspective?

>>3031128
It's clearly one point, how can you not tell.

When is the new beg thread starting, this one is dead and bloated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERFXj8_09ow

As a beginner, I have a much harder time wrapping my head around gesture than I do perspective.

I don't know why I'm having such difficulty with this. Was there something that helped you understand gesture when you started?

I've seen just about every damn youtube video on the subject. I just cant incorporate it into my construction

>>3031163
If you haven't done a thousand gestures yet, don't stop, don't question, just keep doing it. Gesture is also related to perspective though, so if you skimped out on your perspective studies, drawing a gesture correctly will be difficult

>>3031118
right, any more senpai

I haven't drawn anything for almost a week and i already lost some of my touch. what do you do to warm back up?

>>3031195
Just draw, there is no such thing as warming up.

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>>3029573
I'm really struggling to accurately copy color without using the eyedrop tool.

>>3031202
Then you should experiment with the sliders before applying it. Play with value, saturation and hue. Eye drop to see what colors are which hsv, etc.

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>>3031201
aye, here's what i did quickly

>>3031212
I tend to only use HSB. Which other ones should I use?

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Why my skin always looks metallic?

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>>3031215

>>3031153
300 replies is when the thread stops bumping. We're at 190. Strap in. It's not like being at the start of the thread is going to make people notice you more.

>>3031214
RGB or HSV, I don't know much about HSB.

>>3031153
>dead

For the most active general out of the three, I don't know why you claim that it's "dead."

>>3031166
I appreciate the advice. And feel free to tear open my asshole for my next question but...

Is it really necessary to draw the gesture before construction? I have never watched a speed paint where the artist drew the gesture lines. They just started straight with the body. My biggest gripe with drawing gesture is that it never lines up with how I actually want the figure to look. The entire gesture is either too tall or too short than what the actual figure is supposed to be. So drawing over or next to it is useless. I feel like I could devote my spare time into something more obvious like facial expressions, hands and feet, etc.

>>3031226
People who are good already can see it in their mind. Of course it won't look exactly how you want it, you've just started. If they were perfect, you would be master artist. So, yeah, it'll suck in the beginning, but if you keep doing them, they'll get better as long as you strive to make them right. Gesture and construction sort of go together, but yeah, it is for you since you've just started doing them. Once you've internalized it, you won't have to draw them anymore or as much.

>>3031233
I can understand that i suppose. I need to chill then. thanks anon.

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How do I get good drawing faces? trying to put things into perspective with boxes but shit looks just awful

>>3031253
draw lots of faces

>>3031253
draw triangular faces like sycra.

>>3031253
Skull studies from every angle and paper boy helped me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBv5z0Y2odE

>>3029573
i am scared to admit it but
for someone who has been drawing for years animu and has not gotten better only to quit and try to learn basic and other shit. How did you get better guys.
>inb4 sticky. i saw it

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do i have to read all the nonsense or can i just do the excercises? i only have so much time to practice and i don't feel like spending most of it on reading each day

>>3031264
what a shit question. we know nothing of your interests, desires in art, or most importantly, what your work looks like

if this is bait then i'm heated

>>3030474
But he draws some amazing muscle as well.

>>3031273
If you're that impatient, then that book is useless, you're better of just drawing and doodling in your free time.

>>3031282
i'm not, I just don't see any value in it.

>>3031273
Part of that nonsense is actually correct like dissecting what makes an artist capable of drawing, the brain stuff is pretty useless though.

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>>3031276
i think i posted enough information to tell you more then enough about me but ok i understand i guess.

my desires is to draw like doug sneyd and dean yeagle and love the work they print out. I also draw with no understanding of what i am doing so low amateur.( in hotal right now so no work on hand)

also are these books great for me or do they do more damage.(fun with pencil and the other one on the top)

>>3031285
If you haven't even completely read the book then how would you even know what value is in there?

>>3031305
I don't know, that's why i asked... I just think the rambling about the brain so far is really irrelevant

>>3031309
It's not irrelevant at all, you should probably take it in and keep reading, it's more important than you think it is. Even if you don't do any of the exercises, at least read the whole book, there's a lot of insightful things in there.

>>3031273
Fuck that book.

>>3031309
Be smart, do the exercises and then read why you did that exercise, there all the gibberish will be resumed.

>>3030826
yes...

>>3031113
same advice about the shape of the top and back of his skull. you drew it how you thought it should be instead of looking at it and drawing what you see

>>3031344
to add to this, his skull isn't long enough in your drawing and it isn't so round

>>3031215
because it has little to no texture, like metal

this vilppu guy is a genius

>>3031356
What do you mean?

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i'm kind of forcing myself to draw through a dry spell of absolutely nothing being accomplished. work kills my energy so i feel like doing nothing all day and even when i try to draw i get autistically frustrated and give up.

pic related is me struggling to finish something that i had doodled a while back. i've decided that if i keep stopping after being upset about how a piece looks, i'll never get anything done. so i'm just trying my best and hoping i'll learn from it. blease be gentle

>>3031264
Post your art retard. Chances are if you're good at drawing moeblobs you've gotten good at construction and maybe decent at line control, but your perspective and studies are garbage.

Depending on your post, I'd say start with Keys to Drawing (or Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain if you're a loser and it helps you learn better and are more willing to jump through its pseudoscience and hoops), practice Draw a Box Lesson 1-3, then go on to Loomis, general studying, and actually drawing crap until you git gud, which will make it easier to study and practice and draw until you actually get good.

>>3030913
You are better than most here, but you do belong here. You have flair but your fundies are fucked, mainly in anatomy and perspectice, probably gesture.

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Finished line art - moving onto colour.

>>3029573

Alright, so I've been in a stagnation period and am trying to use the old loomis tutorials to relearn the basics of anatomy properly.

However I keep having this problem with lines and measurement that is pretty hard to describe. I think it's an eye hand coordination problem but when I want to draw one line at say, the middle of two lines, it'll look like it's higher or lower than it should be. When I want to draw one thing, it comes out like another. etc etc I really don't want to result to rulers/other tools.

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>>3031365
>Post your art retard
o...ok ...:(

>>3031413
>we're all old down here jimmy. Old and horny.

I'm not sure what this is referencing, but it gave me a chuckle.

>>3030965
1. my lines are as straight as i could make them with my mouse in clipping tool,
2. no.

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>>3031431
i think it has to do with a gay clown people were scared of in the past but i saw as a old pedo when i was young.

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any ways to make it better?

>>3031446
what you should have named the file:
>large, nude, muscular black man traverses some poorly drawn wilderness.

Why not actually draw the picture next time?
The random brown box completely kills what little composition the picture has.
Draw from reference first.
Learn perspective.
Learn color theory.

>>3031446
what is your focal point supposed to be

I'm happy i gt the drawing down but I can't look at the color scheme without getting triggered. Any advice on coloring in Photoshop?

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>>3031645
heres the picture sorry

>>3031645
Friend, your coloring will get better if you work on your construction more. That thing is full of anatomy mistakes. She doesn't have a trapezius, deltoids, her neck is very off center, her pelvis is in a different perspective than her legs. I recommend you study each of those parts individually.

As for the color, use transparencies, don't overlap colors, blend them.

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I'm mostly worried about anatomy as I am experimenting with exaggerated proportions, hence the shortstack. I get that her face looks retarded, I need to do facial studies so I don't really need critiquing on that, I can do it myself.

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>>3031659
And this is the one I'm more proud of, I don't know whats wrong with the pelvis and waist but some help would be greatly appreciated.

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How'd i do?

>>3031716
Shes medusa by the way.

>>3031716
The underside of the snake bit looks flat, like a slug. I'm not sure if that is how a snake's body would contort, but it looks odd to me. Also the breasts are being held up by nothing, they would fall down towards her hand at that point. Put your own hand flat on the table and look at the shape, draw what you see, not what you think it looks like. The arm is pretty easy to get references for because you have two of them and you can pose them very easily.

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help

>>3031730
okay thank you for the advice!

>>3031759
No problem and to clairfy, the critique wasn't on the hand but on the forearm. I feel like I didn't make that clear.

I want to start doing Bargue copies, but is it doable using comparative measurement? If yes, how would I change the method described in the book to accommodate this?

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Trying some inks I got.

>>3031745
with what? the sketch seems alright. the background is shit

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>>3029573
how to draw faces from slanted angles

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Hello, first attempt at digital art, i have real trouble getting the values right. oes someone has any tutorial for Photoshop ? Shading with that finger thingy was pretty hard.

How's my facial anatomy ?

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>>3029578

>>3031745

Hand doesn't lie on solid surface, but hangs in the air/touches only 1 side of the wooden plank.

Is the beginner thread only for study feedback?

>>3031680
It tapers from too wide at the hips to too narrow at the knee. Try evening it out more so the hips are closer to the width of the shoulders. Even if you're going for exaggerated proportions, there are times like this you want to exaggerate less, because the upper half of the torso looks almost normal and it's just dissonant.

How do I draw a skeleton? I think I can draw a figure decently, but a skeleton seems like something else entirely.

>>3031907
Boxes and cylinders.

>>3029610
>>3029642
It's good that you're beginning to work on your edges at least. The eyes are actually showing what's there for once. It's still a muddy mess though. Look at both of their eyes. One iris smaller than the other. Marilyn Monroe has an extreme lazy eye.

Your paint strokes make the face look bumpy and do not properly define the surface of the skin. Like for >>3029610. What's happening under the brows? How deep are the eyes into the socket? What's that black smudge under the eyebrow and in the inner corner of the eye? What about the ears, nose, lips? Just about everything else. Same critique for Marilyn can be applied.

It still looks like you are working from mess to clean up. So as refined as it you try to make it, it always retains the mess. You should start with clean edges from the beginning. Define what is there. Use a larger brush and show the shapes of the face. Do not use a small brush and mark every small detail in until you have the broad strokes done.

>>3031923
What? Pls help

>>3031941
He's saying to simplify it down to basic shapes. There will be very few points in your life where you will actually need to draw a skeleton because what matters more is outside of it.

That being said his response was as silly as your questions because literally nobody wants to sit there and explain how to draw an anatomically correct skeleton, fucking google it.

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My first time drawing something on the computer. It feels weird, and I hope it isn't too shit.

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Anons, how do you find my current drawing skills, how could I improve it?

I recently found out spontaneous scribbles like these turn out better than when I do a sketch first and then carefully trace it with ink. I mean, it's better anatomically and all, but the lines feels more shaky or something. Anyone have similar problem?

>>3032066
I love it desu anon, reminds me of those old 80s cartoons you would watch when you were a kid.

>>3032066
other than technical advice, I'd say branch out in your expressions. Everyone has a very similar facial expression/emotion in all of these pictures. Try drawing something completely foreign to what you normally do.

So an example of opposite to what you've drawn here, you could draw someone quietly observing others with a look of open curiosity. Or a happy character who is 100% sane and clean cut. Female.

>>3032066
I really like these dude. You could try to do the whole figure if anything.

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>>3032070
Thankss
>old 80s cartoons
lol, never thought about it that way to be desu

>>3032071
When randomly doodling I often find myself starting with the same exact lines, which leads to similar expressions. When drawing more consciously, I mean with planning, sketches and all, I try more wide palette of faces, but I'm afraid they're all in similar tone anyway. Pic realted are some different faces I found

>>3032072
Thanks and yeah, I usually lose interest in a character when I'm done with face and hands. I guess I'll just force myself more often to finish the whole figure

>>3032066
>>3032084
blog?

If my drawings are too flat, should i use a perspective grid religiously every drawing?

>>3032186
having a perspective grid won't make up for a lack of understanding of form. there are a couple differing viewpoints on what "flat" means, could you show an example of your work?

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I drew someone from twitter, it turned out pretty baed

>>3032187
>having a perspective grid won't make up for a lack of understanding of form.

Then how do i learn to understand form?

>>3032199
Read drawabox.

>>3032199
by feeling it

>>3032199
Try to place everything in 3d space.

>>3032204
guess i'll downloader blender and rotate cubes around then

>>3032199
by posting work

i don't understand the mentality of people who tend to ask questions without posting - what are you afraid of? everyone in this thread are shitters and you need feedback to improve

>>3032211
Beginners are afraid of learning they're shit and that they can pump out DA tier with no effort. Truth is they can't even fucking do that.

>>3032212
surely if you're on /ic/ you've become self-aware at some point

>>3031871
obviously not, look at people stuff.

>>3031646
the drawing is pretty bad
but the problem with the color is your colors are too low opacity and desaturated

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How much did I fuck this up?

>>3032236
not much that's pretty good, reflection is obviously a bit whacky but hey i think its a good shot

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give the feedback

>>3032236
77.51 %

>>3032255
jesus man uhhh
practice drawing faces and bodies seperately.
you need to study alot more

>>3032261
You should redline it for him, anon.

>>3032263
i cant even tell if its a midget or a normal sized person.
he's better off just trying again.

>>3032066
You managed to do those just from scribbling with ink? that's really neat

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>>3032408

>>3032408
That's dedication right there.

>>3031655
thanks for the critique, i do admit i need to work on my anatomy. I drew it right after a few KNKL show videos..

>>3031036
Sorry I don't see it, would help a ton if you could do a redline.

>>3032411
>>3032408
not bad

not at all

i like it i like it

>>3032411
very good shit, anon
actually top tier, post more.

>>3032411
This is the original that I copied. I did not draw the original

>>3032412
>>3032448
>>3032451
Thanks though

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Does 1pt perspective have to have a vanishing point in the center? OR can it be anywhere?

>>3032471
Vanishing point is in the horizon. It doesn't necessarily mean center.

>>3032471
it can be anywhere, in the center is pretty boring unless you're doing dramatic road shot or some shit

Why are hands and feet so hard to draw?

>>3032495
You don't draw them enough.

>>3032236
Is that shadow or reflection?

>>3032199

By studying light and doing form practice.

1. Do a still life drawing using any objects you can find around you. There are videos on youtube instructing you how to set up one. Really look at how the light reacts on the objects surface.

2. Find a photo with an obvious light source and study. Anything with a simple shapes. Fruits/household items etc...

3. Draw random shapes and decide on a light source. Draw a small arrow to represent the light direction. Then start rendering light and shadow on the random shapes. Use the knowledge you gained from still life drawing or photo ref.

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Today i draw this, besides the fact that i decided not to press too hard on the pencil and taking the photo with my cellphone, resulting in the image being clear as fk i think it ended up being not so shit as i would have expected
1/3

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This was from yesterday, just started trying out some shading, obviously i am still shit at it so i will add it to the grind list
2/3

Does the same person start these threads or is it just a random anon every time?

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Ok, just noticed i forgot to resize the first two images to 1000
Also started drawing full body characters, have been practicing drawing semi naked figures to get used to the anatomy, so adding clothes felt like cheating a bit

Yeah, i know, shitty hands but besides that i would like critique about all the stuff i didnot notice, maybe like the sword not making any sense, that kind of stuff
3/3

Thanks in advance

Hey guys I just wanted to say that I give up drawing realistic eyes and I'm going to settle with anime eyes for the rest of my life because I understand them thanks

>>3032554
Prove it, draw anime eyes in 3/4th view. Guaranteed you'll fuck it up because you don't know how eyes work.

>>3032550
What do you think?

>>3032553
leave /beg/

>>3032553
Blog?

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1. am i on the right track?
2. current level of these?
3. any consistent errors?

>>3029573
Day 4 of Keys to Drawing. I didn't do any exercises yesterday, because I was a retard and wasted time on trivial shit. I do feel like I'm going through this book really slow at 1 exercise a day, I think I'll try the next and keep a rate of 2-3 exercises a day. It might help with dicipline or motivation or some shit like that.

The picture was an eyes study, but I feel like I did this exercise better the last time I went (partially) through keys to drawing. My observation really's gone to shit since then.

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>>3032564
Pic related, if anyone wants to take a look at it.

>>3032562
ya right track, looks good
maybe throw in some photo studies and try some non-static feet
construction is nice tho

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>>3029579
behold the hambeast

>>3032556
Fuck I can't do it.

Well shit.

>>3032553
post some pictures of your drawn faces pls senpai

>>3032574
>>3032574
>>3032574

>>3032574
>>3032574
>>3032574

>>3032574
>>3032574
>>3032574

>>3032574
>>3032574
>>3032574

>>3032584
thanks boi

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>>3032560
Why tho? I just started drawing a few weeks ago and still at Loomis

>>3032561
I dont feel i am good enough to have any kind of blog yet, no devian art, instagram or any of that kind of stuff
>>3032583
Pic related

>>3032593
from one shit artist to another, you need to read keys to drawing.

>>3031128
Girls are in 2 point, background is 1 point.

>>3031273
She's insane broscientist. All you should take from that book is to stop symbol drawing. I don't think a whole book is needed to do that.