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>>3020087
This board is full with pic related.

On 4chan manga is the ultimate art.

>>3020091
I would try to find other communities, but truth is something with 4chan's harsh honesty and irony is hard to find.

I think a lot of people are just fed up with conceptual art and modernism as a whole. It's been forcefed for the last century with the loss of tradition and know-how as result, and now there's simply a countermovement going on.

>>3020087
expressionism was an art movement of the late 19th century, and modern abstract art (post modernism) one of the late 20th.

Both are simply outdated. They were created and targeted towards an audience that lived during that time, and only work within this context. They worked, because of how different they were from what was accepted as the norm before them, the main values they express are values of contrast to other artwork.

In the 21st century we now have a new artistic direction, or to be more precise, many concurrent artistic movements.

One of which the majority of millenials subscribe to: the believe that context is meaningless.

Grown up with the internet, the author isn't important. Art is just another medium to be consumed, replicated, shared. If the artwork isn't able to communicate it's own value without additional information, then it's worthless.

>>3020153
Op here
Actually, I couldn't agree with that more. Although I personally appreciate many of the modernist movements, the amount of forcefed "conceptual" art these days is unreal and annoying. But I do not believe in a regression of the art values.

>>3020166
> If the artwork isn't able to communicate it's own value without additional information, then it's worthless.

This.

>>3020166
In my opinion, if you want to destroy art as something with contextual necessity, then you have to expand it's horizon. Else all art will always look the same. The purpouse of art is not to persue beauty in its most literal form. The internet seems to strive to make art superficial but that will never take away the boundless possibilities of a white canvas and the legitimation of those who go after unconventional solutions in search for a deeper meaning. Another thing is, expressionism doesn't have to be a contextual counter art of the 20th century. There is expressionist art that even a uneducated farmer with a little sensitivity can enjoy, like many impressionist paintings. I think with an open mind and aesthetical sensitiveness many "unconvetional" art can be considered good without context.

>>3020087
Esthetic and expression are universal concepts, that every human can perceive and apreciate. No one need experience or technical knowledge to say that a painting of Raphael is good made, beautiful and has an effect on the viewer, idependent of it's historical background.

Your pic, OP, may have some of these qualities, but don't reach this universal impression, if it were not for the fame of the painter in the artistic circle.

To be honest, I see no much difference between modern fine art community and furry porn community, only that the furries don't try to force their interrests as high qualitative and superior to other media.

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There's no way you can say the picture in OP or those like it are 'good' without relying on the asinine meta narrative of the mundane personality who created it-or by falling back on esoteric art-related buzzwords like "composition" and "texture" that are ultimately meaningless to you from one piece to the next anyway. This kind of shit art is the exclusive domain of pretentious debt ridden college fags and white collar criminals.

>"hurr if you don't like this retarded ass painting ur square minded unlike me hurr I'm high minded durr hurr look at the composition, the colors, the texture durr I'm so sophisticated and uh...smart compared to everybody else a'hyuck."

Fucking moron lmao

>>3020197
How can you be proud of not grasping aesthetical concepts beyond the ones you learn in primary school? What's your idea of decent art? If in art we have the ability to search for different concepts through metaphorical and pictorial choices that challenge our counciousness and subconsciousness then why wouldn't we? Thinking good art should be "pretty" is degenerate mindset. Believing that just because pretentious collegefags have prenteded knowledge of vanguardism in order to look cul you shouldn't be the idiot that generalises conceptual art cause he thinks he has nothing new to learn.

>>3020231
redirect >>3020197 to >>3020221

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>>3020231
>aesthetical (sic)
>metaphorical
>pictorial
>counciousness (sic)
>subconsciousness
>prenteded (sic)
>vanguardism
mouthbreather trying as hard as it can to sound smart, BIG WORDS LMAO, MODERN ART L M A O

>>3020087
>Are you really so square-minded you can't appreciate art that isn't muh realism loomis dick sucking concrete?
Yes, that is exactly what it is. If you wanted considered and nuanced discussion about anything besides the basics of realism (anatomy, modelling, perspective, light and shade) you should go elsewhere.

I actually like op's painting, but it would certainly look better if the artist knew how to draw. the proportions of the candle jutting out from the table that isnt in perspective is the kind of thing that can be justified for what it adds to the composition, but the incredibly shitty figure drawing of the guy getting carved into only detracts from the effect of the painting. I still like it though.

also there's 7 bird feet in that painting. why not figure out how to draw a cool looking bird foot if you are going to paint seven of them in a single painting

>>3020264

So you badmouth me for big words but not this >>3020221 ? You're just argumentless fag