/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

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Booted up photoshop today and this is happening. How do I fix.

>>2986713
Is it a pirated version? Adobe somehow found out how to fuck up not genuine software.

Is there really any point to the drawing tablets with screens? I mean, it seems like once you get used to a normal drawing tablet, you're actually better off in a way because your hand will never obstruct your view.

>>2986718
Yep, pirated. I guess I should go pirate clip studio paint instead.

How many years of doing 6 hours of line exercises a day before you can just shit out any line or curve you want at angle on the paper in single clean stroke like the guys in these instructional videos?

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>>2986705

>>2986739
bout three fitty

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from asian model last thread
how do proportions guys

>>2986764
>how do proportions guys
By studying and understanding them.
Check Loomis's or Hampton's figure drawing. Also think in forms.

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>>2986777
yeah good idea

>tfw by the time you get warmed up it's already time to go to sleep again

NEET problems

I can't imagine that all these sort of generic manga artists go through formal training or studies of anything except... manga. Do they just draw anime style stuff until they're passable at it?

>>2986819
20 years of having no sex and fapping to lolicon is plenty of training.

>>2986821
whew, halfway there

we're gonna make it, boys

>>2986801
or in my case little electric heater problems, i'm cold heater, impart more heat to the room pls

thanks

>>2986821
b-buh muh fundies

>>2986824
>fundies
you mean fpantsu

>>2986742
draw a box and cylinder for neck+torax and establish eyelevel. you have perspective issues.

>>2986718
well, fuck them!

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Help me improve. What's wrong with this drawing? Feel free to nitpick

>>2986863
lack of benis

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How would you derive a line art texture from something like this?

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Anybody got tips for painting clouds?
I know i am supposed to block them out and paint them as vloumes but when the clouds are really thin and wispy that technique is hard to make work.
I dont want to spend like half the time on painting little details in the clouds either.

>>2986888
feel the form

>>2986888
Just outline it then slap a filter on it.

>>2986892
The form is easy, the texture isn't.

>>2986863
I think her right side should be more of an 'S' since it extends and her left side should be crumpled or pinched since she's doing that sort of pose. That's just my opinion, friend.

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>>2986898
what do you mean "more of an s?"

>>2986904
I can't redline, I meant smoother since it's stretching and the other half is pinching. Try the pose yourself, do it in front of a mirror.

>>2986888
Makes me hungry for chicken tendies now, thanks anon.

>>2986909
I'm not female enough to pull off this pose, but I see what you mean. looking at the reference, i agree that I emphasised the hip too much, as well as the peice of skin jutting out from the rib (should have been smoother)

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>>2986888
same as anything else

(mouse trace from snipping tool)

>>2986918
post just the blue and that'll look like shit.

>>2986918
Those are just contours

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>>2986919
if you just put more time itd look fine.

>>2986923
what does line art texture even mean?

>>2986915
It's cool, man. You'll improve over time. Not being female isn't really a problem, just imagine yourself as a girl or wear a dress. I'm not joking, it's either refs, models, or just try it yourself. Hope to see you improve here, friend.

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>/beg/ attempts to define the essence of a tendie

Keep it up, I want to see where this goes

>>2986925
looks like nothing.
Context will be key when making a linedrawing of a tendie.

What PEN should I get as a BEGINNER?

>>2986943
a biro

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>>2986925

>>2986949
kek, well played

>>2986949
>floating tendie islands

I want to live in that world

>>2986925
It looks like a kangaroo. Is it a kangaroo?

>>2986707
Is that flaccid

>>2986927
is this how 4chan creates traps?

>>2986948
nice meme dude
>>2986943
Any real answer?

>>2986971
Yes.

>>2986971
you vicariously became a trap the moment you commented on this Mongolian clay sculpture forum.

>>2986812
critique?

>>2986993
You're good enough, do something else now.

How is restating different from hairy lines?

>>2986973
i dont think the other guy was joking. a biro is literally fine. As an idea, try unipin fineliners? They seem to work fine for me (I'm no expert though)

>>2986973
Those free ikea pens.

>>2986993
The lower right leg of the figure on the left is bugging me.

I want to practice drawing big without going through a lot of paper. Would a whiteboard work?

>>2987065
Why not?

>>2986718
>there are people that actually believe that
lmao
My photoshop is working perfectly fine.

I want to draw American cartoons with eastern influences!

>>2986764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N87QWwQnml8

>>2986739
I've been doing the exercises from Peter Han's series every day for like 3 weeks now. 6 pages a day. My linework has massively improved. I wouldn't say I can draw anything from any angle, but if I rotate my paper I can put down just about any clean line that I want.

I'm 32 so I was afraid that my hand-eye coordination wouldn't grow very much, but it didn't seem to be a problem.

Not sure if i should ask this in /qtddtot/ but I just want to know as an absolute beginner, where to strictly focus my attention to get my feet off the ground? I've spent many pages just drawing things on my desk and i try to focus on seeing what is there irl, not chicken scratching and using my whole arm but I was end up falling back into these habits.

pls halp

>>2987111
Post your drawing of things on your desk.

>>2987092
What did you get into drawing for, pal?

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>>2987143
Sorry for the phone pic.

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>>2987143
>>2987166
i was attempting to draw this btw

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>>2986718
>adobe breaks cracked bloatoshop
>torrent nip studio paint instead
>it's better
well then

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What do you think of it? It's not finished yet, there's stuff I need to do and fix, but I'm done for the day.

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>>2987204
>relatively competant and successful downward angle in anime style after only a few days

>>2987240
You should become his disciple.

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>>2987240
>few days
almost two weeks, anon
granted I did nothing but draw a head a day

>>2987241
learn realism goy, you cant just copy anime from the start right? establish a strong mastery of the fundamentals first else you wont succeed. hehe good goyim

>>2987244
>one head a day

fucking end me

>>2987244
what were you focusing on holty shit this progress is amazing

>>2987246
>everyone falling for the you can't copy anime from the start when that's what every other normal person does

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How much did I fucked up?

>>2987244
It's still shit, but congrats, you improved more in two weeks than Sonic artists improve in 5 years

>>2987249
Did you do it upside down?

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>>2987247
I read the first few pages of Loomis but the first few heads were dogshit
So I redlined a pic I liked on here to try and figure out how they constructed their shit
It helped a lot
So basically, uh, do as the people who do how you'd like to do, do

>>2987248
>I'm normal, right
>I haven't been memed, right

>>2987260
>pops is this anon's inspiration

>>2987261
I wish I knew who that was.

>>2987268
>>2986976

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>>2986708
Advice clearly needed.

Give feedback then I'll do a redraw to show my progress.

>>2987261
I think it's not him but a different artist, who can actually draw lewd lolis from imagination with various faces.

>>2987277
sounds like he's all of our inspiration

>>2987277
Oh yeeahhh, I think he was called lolibro. It was a reaction image on the topic of lolis anyway.

the amount of samefag in this thread is embarassing

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>>2987249
a ton which is why it should have taught you
a)what symbol drawing is
c)how not to do it
b)why not to do it

>>2987274
is this meant to be stylised?

crit?

>>2987373
awesome, super cute

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>>2987373
sigh.

>>2987274
study anatomy, you're thinking too much, figure drawing sites, capture the flow not the anatomy, not yet at least.

>>2987376
jerry, i...

>>2987376
jerrybreem had a rough life :(

>>2986713
restart your driver.

>>2987246
>>2987248

People think that is good progress... I thought I was in reddit for a second there.

>>2987400
Post your progress then
wait, no, post good progress then

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know some yung n****s like to swang (cant curse)

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>>2987403
Guess I'll do it for you. It's not good progress but it's my hard work of 2 months grinding portrait, facial construction...

Only the stuff I've done in /beg/

>>2987381
>>2987385
Sure memes lulz but at least give opinions.

>>2986889
>I dont want to spend like half the time on painting little details in the clouds either.
Then art is not for you. You might want to consider photography or design.

>>2987410
Sure you can. Say it with me:

NIGGERS.

One more time!

NIGGERS!

>>2987418
>he got somewhere in 2 weeks, that's not good progress!
>I've been stuck grinding here for 2 months, going nowhere, so I should know!
/beg/: not even once

>>2986863
First, I can't see the form very well, because of your poor shading.

Second, your anatomy is awkward:

Her neck's origin at the neckbone is wrong
Her thighs don't match
The muscles of the hip are wrong.
The lower contour of the left leg should not stop at the crotch, it would continue into the buttock
Her arms are too small.
Her calf on the left leg (raised) is wrong, she has no ankle.
Her bellybutton feels too low.
Her left arm is just poorly drawn.
The pose makes no sense - is she hanging from the drapes? If so, there should be tension on the drapes, and on the right, there is none.
Her hair is poorly done.

If you're working from reference, please post it.

>>2987428
kek

>>2987431

Hah! Okay I'll be grinding my fundies and progress while you guys bicker about copying anime and ignore the foundation.

how do i know if im getting critiqued by someone who knows what theyre talking about when i post stuff here

i cant wait until i can leave this fucking place

>>2987111
Stop worrying about drawing from the shoulder - it's fine for large, sweeping lines, and filling large areas, but for details and accuracy, draw normally with your wrist on the table.

The way to break habits is to do something different. Walk around your town, draw things like sculpture - graveyards are a free source of materials. Go to a zoo, draw animals. Just break up your routine.

>>2987442
red line

unless it's really bad, if that's the case you don't deserve a red line and should take any criticism with a grain of salt.

>>2987442
When you read the comments and see that they're seeing mistakes/flaws you didn't.

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>>2987441
>Hah!
>uh...muh fundies

>>2987445
nothing's keeping you here.

>>2987453
i think he means "i cant wait until im not a beginner"

>>2987410
how big is your canvas?

>>2987460
like 3k by 6k

>>2987437
This is the sort of brutal nit-pickery I needed, thanks anon.

Ref: https://www.quickposes.com/assets/poses/14211bfcc5292468238076c1dcec1638.jpg

Please explain how I improve shading? In fact, how do I improve everything that's poor?

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Can someone please teach me how to paint?

>>2987442
If all their critique consists of solely measurement comments or a lot of "x is off" you might want to be wary. If someone tackles something deeper than the surface (insight on how to blend, lighting advice, or how a certain fundamental concept works) that's when you know you should be listening. Really nobody knows how to critique well, least of all this thread. It's unreal but then again it's beginners helping beginners

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>>2987505
Try this approche, yet i belive for you it would be much better if you first get a really good grasp of rendering with traditional .

I have an Intuos Art medium.

Do you think I will improve any faster if I buy a 13" Cintiq while I have the money right now?

>>2987524
waste of money for beginners

>>2987524
[cue "you-can-do-a-painting-with-a-broom" meme]

>>2987525
>>2987526

All I needed to hear to talk me out of it. I was on the fence on spending the money anyways.

>>2987529
Just curious but why would you even consider it? Even if you have disposal income it's still not exactly chump change. No amount of soft or hardware will help you "improve faster" or substitute for lack of knowledge.

>>2987274
you lack an understand of volume and form
look at the references torso area. the shape/form is reminiscent of an oval/eggish shap. your images torso area is very flat/undefined .

>>2986863
her right leg looks somewhat out of place or detached from the overall form.

>>2987541
I was worried that the disconnection with not seeing my hand when drawing is making me not progress as quickly as I want to.

But honestly, it's probably because I have unrealistic expectations for myself.

>>2987551

If it's money you can afford to lose then buy it. If anything you can resell it for a lower price.

If not just draw using the normal tablet. You'll adapt sooner or later. Draw with pencil/pen on paper whenever you're not on the computer.

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Fucking hell, how come the lines look so good on nip studio?

>>2987582
>the lines look so good

Yeah, sure...

>>2987625
Well, compared to photoshop.

>>2987582
What size brush are you using?

>>2987631
10.4 on the g-spot pen.

>>2987582
You sure it doesn't have a build in stabilizer or some shit?

>>2987582
That's called skill my boy.

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>>2987637
>skill

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>>2987635
Yeah but doesn't ps have the same thing? I had it pretty low anyway.
>>2987637
>beg
>skill
hue

>>2987240
You the same guy sucking his dick from last thread?

>>2987646
Don't you know that anyone giving compliments on /ic/ is the artist themself? Samefags everywhere.

>>2987646
he's samefagging

stop giving him attention

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>>2986702

>>2987244
Why are you like this?

>>2987673
1. It's a sphere. So at this level you should be using solely a round brush for this type of blending, as well as following the form of the object so it doesn't look flat. "Follow the form" as in feeling like you're molding a sphere with clay with your hand (with your brush)

2. Either take more time blending or lower the softness of your brush to 20-40% when you blend so your transitions will look less jarring. Right now it looks like shit.

And for fucks sake draw with your shoulder when you do anything circular. Draw 100 circles a day as a warmup.

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I tried painting and made an abomination. What're ways to improve on the lips, especially?

Anyone have any tips to learning how to draw with a graphics tablet? I'm going to imagine it's just because i'm day 1 into using it but it feels super uncomfortable. Is it because I'm used to paper and pencil all my life?

>>2987698
The first advice I can give is flip the pic. The second is think of the lips as forms or shapes with volumes. Draw from life and ref, from different angles and from different ethnicities. Nigger lips are so fuuullll
>>2987709
Just draw, the first time you drew with a pencil/pen, you felt like that too. Draw whatever you like. Just don't post it here since it will all be rubish.

>>2987698
did you digitally paint something, print it out, turn it sideways, and then take the picture with a phone from the early 2000s?

Anons am I gonna make it?

>>2987715
Yes, we will.

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Drew this for an Anon on /trash/. I know it's bad, but how do I fix it? Is there any trick to drawing legs?

Does anyone know how to pick your colours/values perfectly every time? e.g. i choose a skin tone and add shadow and it looks off as hell
as soon as i copy off a tutorial for skin tones it doesnt look off.

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>>2987713
I actually did step one and four, but heres the full picture. It's still shit though.

>>2987720
Experience. You need to have seen every color out there and have used it before as well as know all the possible relations.

>>2987722
dang okay just gotta practice more then

>>2987312
what do you mean by this? im guessing it just means you are drawing what youre observing and not taking into account the actual anatomy/structure?

>>2987723
Fyi what he said is impossible. We humans xan detext something like 900 shades of red. Imagine every possible combination of colors... huge.

The okd masters used VERY limited palettes. Look at Titian. The secret is to find YOUR palette.

Loomis doesnt teach color. Read about neo impressionist colors, its very informative

>>2987149
Why not? A man can never acquire too many skills.

>>2987727
Not that anon, but can you talk more about this?

>>2987730
I was genuinely asking actually. Curious what your reasoning is. Especially coming to /ic/ of all places.

>>2987727
am that anon, can you talk more about it?

>>2987724
nvm referred to sticky

>>2987732
I do a lot of freelance programming and though it'd be nice to do some of my own graphic design for my personal projects. It was fun and I wasn't terrible at vector art, so I decided to go a step further and learn to draw as a hobby.

As far as /ic/, I've been on 4chan for like a decade now, so why not /ic/?

idea guy here

transparent pens and hands so you can see the paper while you draw

>>2987802
No need because the hand doesn't cover your drawing.

Any idea how many hours of constant drawing a 0.35mm felt tip pen will last you for?

>>2987817
It says it on the pen, doesn't it? 16 hours.

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>>2987673

>>2987819
Doesn't say on mine anywhere, but damn, that's pretty short. Guess I should order some backups.

Hey guys, I haven't really drawn in a few years and I feel like I lost some of my skills and have no inspiration.
What gets you all to draw? I feel like I have little creativity. Even back when I did draw I mostly drew video game shit.
I would like to draw more surreal stuff but anything to really get me drawing again would be great.

so i have this problem where i do a drawing, leave to eat stuff and as soon as i come back i see all the faults in the drawing

is there anyway other than flipping the canvas to "refresh" your brain without using a lot of time?

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>everything should be broken down into cubes, cylinders, and other primitives
>now draw these weird organic blobs

Am I missing something here?

>>2987842
it's almost like... there are complex forms in the world

>>2987825
I know this feel, bro, and the solution is simpler than you think.
You just take your drawing utensil, think up literally any idea, and start drawing. It draws you in partway.

>>2987844
the universe is made up of millions of infinitely small cubes stacked like legos

>>2987837
Mirror

>>2987842
you will understand when you do this a bunch of times then look at the vilppu drawing manual.
you will see what he means by everything can be broken down into either boxes cylinders or other organic forms .

>>2987846
If the cubes are infinitely small, then even a million of them would take up an infinitely small amount of space though?

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Can someone critic my artwork?
It'd be more helpful if someone does critic me in general. like in how I am lacking at some things you can see.

>>2987897
>5601x3300

>>2987897
seems like a solid underdrawing ready color and clean up

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what should i workin most?

>>2987914
The shape of her eyes is way too different. And you should probably get rid of these "expressive" thick memebrows that look more like stickers. Add more shadow below the nose and in the eyeballs.

There's also too much space between her clavicles and that pit in the neck.

>>2987897
her shoulder/upper arm seems off. like the socket isnt where it should be or something. i could be wrong though

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Pls bully before I start coloring this.

I'm mainly interested in:
1) How the face and head look (I have spent too much time looking at them, so I'm not really sure if my eyes aren't deceiving me anymore).
2) Whether yunomi, the cup of tea that the viewer is carrying, looks okay.
3) Whether the spine looks alright.

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So I made a little more progress on this.
I don't think this is the right way to do these studies, but I start by trying to block in colors like in >>2987505. However, I always find myself having to zoom in both the painting and reference to capture any more detail. The problem is when I'm zoomed in that much, my process boils down to just being a copy machine, wherein I'm just trying to mimic this narrow window of colors and values as opposed to seeing the broader picture to help my understanding of the subject. Basically, I don't think I'm learning anything from doing this other than getting more familiar with my tools.

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>>2986888
i tried

>>2987981
not sure if tendie or cloud

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>>2986705
Tried to be OK with contrast.

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halp

>>2987681
Why am I like what, an autist? Because I'm on 4chan. You are too.

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Maybe I should just practice the simple form of the head more. I haven't got to the point in "Drawing the Head and Hands" where Loomis discusses planes yet, so perhaps I'm focusing too much on the facial features

>>2988021
Are those drawn without reference? If yes, there IS a noticeable improvement already, but you need to pay more attention to positioning the features, like with the eyes of the middle portrait. And not making the head too long horizontally, too.

Keep going, you'll make it.

>>2988000
I won't go into measurement errors because you can use your own eye to work that out but look at the thumbnail. Huge difference in values. Like a retarded difference it's not even close. You need to set your color picker right next to your ref, use it to choose your value, and paint over the ref with a brushstroke to see if you got it right. If it's wrong do it again until it's right and block it in. Also what helps in determining values is blocking in the background as well since it's a little dark and painting on a lighter canvas will mess with your perception of values. Also there are weird things like unrendered eyelids that make it look flat and symbol-y. All around take more time on it.

>>2988000
The woman in the reference image looks like a Southeast Asian, but you drew her like an East Asian.

>>2987410
she sure didn't skip legday, perspective on her right feet is off and the shoulder of the arm with the apple seems a bit too small.

How do I go from a pen drawing to a clean digital image? Scan it and trace in illustrator?

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>>2987972
When you're copying colors and values the trick to remembering hoe you did it is to watch how the color hue on the color wheel change to other hues. Also, see how much the colors desaturate and how much they go down or up in value. Really when you're studying colors it boils down to is knowing how to strategically place a midtone, shadow tone, and light color, and then you put in all the extra rendering later. Reflected light, highlights, and textures are the last steps so if you get the 3 initial tones right, everything else will work.

>>2988055
You sell your soul to become Feng Zhu that's how.

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Got tired of loomis so i doodled something for ic

>>2988016
for starters, get rid of you chicken scratching, dear lord... I can barely see what's going on

then just do more real life studies.

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Fuck, I just don't get perspective. Sure it's not that hard when you can use 2 point perspective and draw basic shapes, but when I get to humans and then their limbs are bent in all sorts of difficult angles my brain just melts thinking about it.
How do you not get lost when dealing with something so complicated?

>>2988140
stop studying just boobs

>>2988205
honestly its more about memorization and visual library
just like how you can add texture and patterns to your visual library you can add poses and limb angles to.
find a limb angle you want to do and then look up references of and practice it until you've got it. then you can use that limb angle any time you want

>>2988205
>>2988233
Read a lot of action manga and you'll get the idea of it.

>>2988205
draw 20 pages of your mannequin from different angles and heights

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Really...makes me think.

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>>2986888
i tried

>>2988270
A jagged shelly, moss covered slug thing.

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>>2988270
>>2988272

>>2988278
I want this thing fighting Proko's Kangasaurous

are there any /ic/ communities on places other than discord, preferrably irc?

>>2986702
I see someone drew PixyTeri.

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>>2987721
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door. Tumblr is 2 blocks down.

>>2987721
>>2987760
Christ, this fucking flat-ass sameface
Same person or is the tumblrite hivemind not a meme?

>>2988231
I made this for you, i never study boobs

>>2988314
>> i never study boobs
"NGMI" was never more appropriate of a response.

>>2987313
No

Where can I buy red lead pencils here in Manila? Any other stores to buy from other than National Bookstore or shoukd I just buy Faber and call it a day

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Any advice/fixes before I start lining and detailing?

>>2988361
Learn how to construct your shit first. Then rough it out, then add detail.
You've skipped that step, which means you gave her trex arms along with a head too big for her body.
Also is that that a photo of a fucking screen?

>>2988368
It's paper anon. What are you on about?

I do have a problem with the head. It always comes out way too big. The arms are usually golden

>>2988377
>those arms
>golden

>>2988361
a lot of bad proportions/unnecessary creases

Is tracing bad?

>>2988497
It depends.
Tracing to "create" another picture is bad and unproductive.
Tracing a picture you like—to learn the trick to, say, a facial expression—isn't. (Actually it is a very powerful method of learning how to do a good expression, if the picture is too complex for your brain to process how it's done.) Directly copypasting the trace to your picture IS.
Tracing a picture and comparing the trace to your study of it to see your mistakes isn't bad too. Tracing it to fix your mistakes... is most likely NG.

>>2988497
Short answer: yup

>>2988516
short answer: it depends.

Just drawn this piece of shit from /s/. i'll go read the sticky now.

>>2988497
Tracing helps you learn how to do something, not to do something: >>2987260
Learn the basics of how to do it and then start using references instead.

>>2988517
Don't you ever correct one of my posts ever again you little fucking worm.

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>>2988520

Fuck I though I had stopped the post.

>>2988520
>>2988528
Good idea. Read the op while you're at it.

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>>2988528

>>2988528
nightmare fuel

>>2987698
resize

>>2988016
stop drawing with your wrist

>>2988268
You are regressing. Sometimes you've just gotta quite while you're up.

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What can I improve in this picture? Didn't get any constructive replies in Alt Stylization.

>>2988572
>pillow shading
>fish lips

>>2986812
Head on the right looks like it doesnt have enough neck or perhaps should be ever so slightly larger to convey the protruding neck

>>2988572
Take a solid black brush and paint the whole thing over.

>>2988572
>there are actual people who cannot take a step back and observe their own work critically.

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>>2988527

How should I hold my pen while drawing? Same grip as when I'm writing?

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I used a reference for this, but it came out as this weird half-anime thing. What're you friends' thoughts on this?

>>2988732
depends on the line. sometimes you hold it like a brush, sometimes like a pen, sometimes you just hold the end of the pen

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>>2988736
Reference used.

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>>2986705
>>2986706

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sketching outdoors

>>2988736
You drew what you think is there, not what actually IS there.

how do i stop procrastinating

>>2988759
You can't.

>>2988759

If you have a mental illness (depression, adhd, whatever) get medicated or get treatment. Other than that, just sit down and fucking draw and don't let yourself get distracted

>>2988759
find something more important to do than drawing
then turn drawing into procrastination from that thing

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From imagination. How is it?

>>2988268
>>2988570

He's not regressing. He's plateauing.

It's shit. It'll continue to be shit. Unless, he get his head out of his ass and learn properly.

>>2988803
>muh fundies

>>2988791

For a beginner, not bad - but I'd strongly suggest looking up gesture on youtube and practice that daily. After that move on to anatomy proportions. I'm not an art teacher so I can't say for sure, but it looks like you are using forced perspective to compensate for not having an established foundation for proportion. If it's any consolation the two hardest and largest steps are anatomy proportion and learning gesture. Beyond that everything else is much easier.

Other than the skull, everything else are bad habits if you move too far in that direction.

Try and do gesture for 30 minutes a day for about 2 weeks then do 30 gesture 30 volumes from then on. There are probably thousands of inexpensive digital lessons that will guide you on this. Please don't reinforce something that you will have to unlearn later if you are serious about art.

board culture question, is it acceptable to post submissions for things in other threads, like that my style/your style stuff or tower girls, even if you're really shitty?

>>2988811
You one of those huh? keep going then...

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>>2988840
>you are using forced perspective to compensate for not having an established foundation for proportion.
When exactly does perspective become forced? I thought you're supposed to incorporate perspective.
As for proportions I doodled this out. How fucked was the first and did I fix it?
I'm pretty sure I fucked up the legs, and in hindsight I did omit them from my previous drawing.

>>2988853
Post your work and hope someone experienced will critique it.

>>2988872
not an expert here, but as someone who doesn't know proportions, oftentimes what I do is just start drawing, and then as I make mistakes in the proportion I adjust the perspective I'm thinking of the form in to match the lines that I drew instead of getting things right. That's what I'd guess he's talkign about

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>>2988881
>oftentimes what I do is just start drawing, and then as I make mistakes in the proportion I adjust the perspective I'm thinking of the form in to match the lines that I drew instead of getting things right
...why would you even do that? How the fuck does that even work?
post work

What can I do to get me to draw something?
The only stuff I think I'm decent at drawing are tanks and some vidya related stuff, but I'd really like to be more original.
I don't frequent /ic/ often, but does anyone have one of those pictures that makes you roll to try something new?

>>2988736

Forget construction and focus on training your observation skill. There's books in sticky that guides pure beginners in this.

>>2988888
check

>>2988911
How about you read the sticky and study the recommended books and videos.

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>>2988888
well, for instance, I was intending for the view of the head to be straight on, but then I fucked a lot of things up and readapted it into a 3/4 view...

>>2988759
Start putting off procrastinating by doing other things

I'm new in digital art, and I installed "Krita".
Been using few brushes, but can't get the effect I want. Is there a good tutorial or advice?

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I left for a few months and /beg/ is full of anime doodles...

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Help

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>>2988748
tried another one, a pic from the old thread >>2984445

i'm starting to pick up on the fact my values don;t have enough contrast so i tried to go a bit darker on the shadows. still suck with proportions though. advice welcome

>>2988872
youre not supposed to include the fucking neck in your headcount.

learning hands is so easy because you have perfect, instant, easy, varied and irl reference right in front of you at all times.

who else /making comfy and steady gains every day/ here?

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>>2988994

>go to Alternative Art/Stylization General with my shitty animu doodles
>get loomised and btfo to beg
>mfw this nigga

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still in concept mode, how can I make it seem more alive and less stiff?

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Did i do gud?

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finally figured out how to fucking work digital and holy shit is it annoying to figure out brushes. Also, fuck layers for now. All I had was 3 at the end and even then I was a fumbling.

Either way, it feels a bit more forgiving when it comes to mistakes and coloring. I'm not really able to work with colors since I'm worried about messing the entire work up.

>>2989116
Also, I know I'm doing chicken scratch on multiple places. I was messing with the top of the skull a bunch and starting getting frustrated

>>2988888
nice but check mine

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I'm trying to follow Proko's videos and I've run into trouble...I cannot seem to picture at all how the boxes are from the side, specifically.

Should I return to studying something more basic? What am I seeing wrong, here? I can tell it's off but when I redraw it over and over, I still can't really nail it.

>>2989202
let me guess, half an hour of practice a day

>>2989226
that's generous

one day im going to make a chan based on vichan that is basically /ic/ with incredibly authoritarian rulesets that permaban posters like this >>2989229 on site. a place of stoicism, discipline and elitist mindsets. a place where beginners can train without the petulant and putrescent influence of milquetoasts and unmotivated individuals. it will be our outer heaven. a safe space without degeneracy and infantilism for the driven and stalwart of proper work ethic and effort.

one day when i am good i'll make this chan. i'll make it for the people.

>>2987897
The elbow is wrong. Bring it to the left towards her body a bit. Her arm is just way too long but you have good shading and a decently interesting composition.

>>2989202
What are you even talking about. it's drawing boxes, not rocket science. You don't have to get this exact. You just need a basic idea of it and move on. Just keep drawing, anon. jesus.

>>2989231
i bet you wouldn't last a day in one of those places

>>2989278
>this fucking response

>>2989231
did you take your clonidine today

>>2988872
Sticky
Loomis
Basic. Learn it.

>>2989277
yeah, but I guess I just want the perspective right on the boxes. I don't want to build on top of shoddy construction. If I'm overthinking it then fair enough

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Am I doing this right? Self portrait.

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>>2989359
Reference

>>2989359
>>2989363
For starters, read op.

>>2989369
But then I'd have to send it to my pc and get on my email, download the file, open paint, open the file, resize it, get on 4chan on my computer,and post that. Is there some resizing app I can use for iPhones?

>>2989384
if only there was a way to do it on phones in the OP..

>>2989376
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>>2989202