What is your favorite brand of mechanical pencil?

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Only classic

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Mitsubishi Kuru Toga

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This. The 925-25/35 are pretty good though, better than the meme Rotrings.

>>2980252
i have the black one, its alright.

might be using it wrong, because i always go back to normal pencils

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the cheapest are the best for me, to much weight and i lose some control and speed

>>2980392
Hell yeah my dude

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For sheer erasability, it's gotta be the Pentel Twist Erase.

>tfw poor as fuck
>can only afford cheap bic pencil
btw this board is shit nowadays, i miss the old times

bic erasers are trash now they smudge like crazy

>>2980392
>>2980429
These niggas know.
>>2980497
Fret not they are the best.

I used to go through entire packs of bic pencils, but there's something arousing about touching the metal of a Staedtler for the first time. I haven't used a bic in a while since.

>>2980506
buy yourself a kneadable eraser, the ones that smell and feel like blu tack

>>2980392

Love these but the eraser sucks balls

I get by anyways

>buy a $2 dollar 2mm lead holder off Amazon
>takes 3 months to ship to the US from China
>the tip wobbles when you draw

A-at least it came with 12 free leads. It came from China though, so they might actually contain lead for all I know...

>>2980971
>eraser sucks balls
Using an eraser
>ngmi

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Pencil

>>2981083
There are many things that need to be erased

>>2980197
Mechanical pencils are so cool, especially the one in OPs pic, I like the look of it. Too bad I prefer using the wooden pencils a lot more. I really want to like them but I don't.

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I've had this pencil for years. 2B lead is nice, but I might get one level harder than that for sketching

Who here Pentel P207 master race?

>>2981569
207 is too fat, imo.
I have a 0.3mm pencil that is a pain to use without constantly breaking the graphite

Im drawing with the P207 right now its a decent pencil, I like to use the 0.7mm though.
I might post my WIP later.

I'm considering buying a rotring 800, how are they as far as pencils go?

>>2981707
Too expensive and worse than the 600 and Rapid Pro in every way. The only reason to buy one is if you really need a retractable sleeve and can't stand not having a red ring in your pencils.

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I'm a whore

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>>2981717
What exactly makes these so popular?

>>2981715
Thanks anon, I'll look into those. I mainly wanted on because I've had several mechanical pencils get trashed because they fell on the sleeve and were fucked at that point.

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>>2980971
You should be using one of these, anyway.

>>2981552
F or HB are the best for general purpose sketching, you should have the entire range of leads, and learn to use them. It's like limiting yourself to one color of paint and one brush, for oil painting.

>>2981942
The Rapid Pro has a sliding sleeve mechanism that would help with that. It doesn't retract the entire tip like the 800, but I doubt it'll break from a normal fall if the sleeve is retracted. The internals are still plastic but it seems more solidly built than the 800. If the cushioning mechanism doesn't interest you the Graphgear 1000 is probably a better bet, at about half the price.

>>2981736
No need for a sharpener, really that's the only reason. Graphite is graphite, there are multiple ways to get it onto the page. I use a clutch pencil, because I can get a broad tip for shading, and woodless pencils. What you use is up to you - find what you like, what lets you draw comfortably for hours, and doesn't fight you. I have at least one of everything, there's nothing right or wrong with mechanical pencils, they're just one of many choices we have.

>>2981980
Nah. I've got enough control over the pencil to be able to do any shade of gray that I need. I've done fully shaded portraits with nothing but a mechanical pencil.

>>2982209
Whatever. Limit yourself, it's your career.

>>2980392
Same. i lose em too much to buynpricey ones. i have a couple lead holders though but for conte

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>>2980197

Hey, what do you anons think about coloured leads? I've been looking more and more into making the full switch over to mechanical, but this has been a trouble spot for me. For the time being, I picked up some Mitsubishi Uni 2mm red lead and a 0.7mm soft blue Pilot Color Eno to sketch with. Getting both ended up being cheaper than the last time I had to buy a pack of 2mm prisma NPB leads.
As far as other options off the top of my head, there's also the 0.5mm nano dia leads, but finding those outside of JetPens is annoying as fuck. The price for what you get from a Pentel 8 2mm multi-lead holder & refills isn't so great when compared with other artist brands. Most other 2mm+ coloured lead I've found are basically a bunch of shitty cheap bundles aimed at crafters who don't know any better.

None, I hate mechanical pencils. The lead always snaps.

>>2982747
how? I've been working with mechanical pencils for years and unless you use them like a barbarian, it shouldn't snap.

>>2982767

I guess I'm heavy handed. I can go maybe 30 seconds without the lead breaking.

>>2982769
What was the diameter of lead you've used?

>>2982770

.5 and .7

>>2982771
Perhaps you need to go thicker, my dude. I've seen graphite lead go up to 5.6mm, and there's always woodless/lacquered pencils too.
That being said, you could get breakage happening still if you bought some shitty cheap garbage from some no-name brand that aims for quantity over quality. Not like actual artist brands aren't guilty of poor quality control at times, but the past few years have been especially more competitive with art supplies. The adult colouring book fad is to thank for that, most likely.

>>2982780

I'm fine with 2mm lead, I just can't do the thinner stuff.

>>2982747
Stop pressing down too hard and stop buying cheap shit. I'm fairly heavy-handed and still manage to use 0.5mm 4B just fine.

>>2982785

Or I'll just not use mechanical pencils and just stick to sketching with regular pencils, ballpoint pens and light marker.

>>2982781
desu I kind of want to try out 0.3mm lead sometime just to get a feel of it.

>>2982789
I find that it's not worth it unless you need to do fine details with pencil. It's too delicate. What do you think would you need it for?

>>2982848
I've always leaned more towards supplies that can deliver broader strokes. It'd be more for exercise purposes, and to try to feel out any minute differences between that and even 0.5mm

>>2982789
>>2982883
Not a lot of practical use for sizes below 0.5 since you can't get the full range of grades. If you just want to go as thin as possible you might as well get a 0.2mm Orenz.

>>2982889
I'm looking into that right now, thank you anon. It looks like an interesting little detailer pencil to have fun with. Reading about the potential issue with lead getting stuck is far from enjoyable, though.

>>2982910
maybe try a silverpoint? not the same thing but you can achieve a fine stroke with it and some really nice gradations

>>2982220
Speaking of lead, is there a certain brand of lead that anyone has used that is so amazing and makes that pentel high-polymer Super seem like cheap shit? I've never seen or used any other brand now that I think about it

>>2982789
you can sharpen a 0.5 by gently rubbing it sideways on a strip of paper while turning the body between your fingers. I've seen some comics guy does it for detail and I've been doing it since

>>2980971
You never use the eraser on a pencil. Use a proper plastic eraser or a gum eraser

>>2984544
I order Pentel Ain-Stein in bulk, it's nice and smooth and it's really as tough as advertised.

>>2980252
They're shit for drawing, you need way too much pressure to trigger the mechanism and the cushion effect is unbearable. I gave mine away because I hated it so much.

>>2981736
You mean mechanical pencils in general or that brand/model.

If you're asking the latter it's because it has a proper cap that keeps the lead from falling out unlike the shitty Bic ones where the erasers have a high chance of falling out and making a fucking mess in your pencil box/bag

>>2984562
It just feels right, too. Slender, not too thick or thin. Good weight and balance. The tip is fine so you can clearly see where you're drawing. And each click brings out the right amount of lead.
I always do 3 clicks, and I'm set

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>>2984544
Pic related are fantastic, they're dark, really smooth and don't break easily. For harder grades Ain Stein makes more sense since they're they're inexpensive, readily available, reasonably smooth and pretty much unbreakable unless you're a troglodyte.

>>2980197
I prefer staedler lead holders. You could even get the lead in different colors

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>>2985649
>he didn't stock up on Eno leads while they were still cheap...

>>2984640
What about smudge issues? Too smooth and it comes off on my hand -- I can't have that anon.

>>2986020
They smudge less than the Hi-Uni in pencil form, but it's still 4B. If that's a problem maybe go for 2B or B instead.

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not technically a mechanical pencil but it's my baby

>>2986113
I have these, they're cheap (i lose them all the time), and I have one for each lead weight.

>>2984544
I buy whatever is on sale, honestly. I have a box of all kinds.

>>2986112
If teh graphite is coming off on your hand, you're drawing on too slick of a paper, or you need to use something to rest your hand on, like a plastic triangle or ruler or something, so you don't disturb the drawing. You can also spray a VERY light coating of fixative or hairspray over finished parts of the drawing - if it's light enough, you can draw over it, or erase it off.

>>2986113 >>2980197
I see you are a man of sophistication as well
.

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Tombow monograph is the best. Cool design with long guide pipe and a long eraser which actually works.

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>>2980197

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>>2986422
I mainly use this neon blue one. But there are other colors.

>>2980392
me too

>>2982747
problem is ham hand not weak pencil. but hey use what you like!

Only plebs use outdated pencils.

Real artists use tablets now.

The only people who use pencils are
>muh traditional art
hipsters

>>2989561
Glad you took the time to bump this two day old thread just to post this low quality bait. I'm sure mommy is very proud of you.

bumps

>>2989807
>disagrees with me
>must be bait

>>2989969
why even bother replying to this thread? its about pencils, not tablets

>>2989969
Saying pencils are somehow "outdated" and "hipster" because tablets exist isn't a disagreement. It's either low quality bait or someone without a functioning brain. Either way it doesn't merit a proper response.

>>2990048
How does it not?

Are pixar movies done in pencil or something now?

>>2981974
How am I supposed to use these? They always felt too soft and smudgey to me. Or am I too autistic and falling for a meme here.

>>2981552
Muh fuckin nigga. I do all my work with this pencil and I get decent ass comissions.

>>2990764
Use these to get decent linework. Do all of ypur construction super lightly then erase and form your body. Than if you want clothes you can erase your body with it and draw clothes over.

>>2990764
you... rub them on the graphite?

you can pinch them into shape to pick up thin highlights etc.

>>2990764
>They always felt too soft
That's why I like them, they're like stress relievers
>and smudgey to me
Are you applying too much pressure while drawing? that's not suppose to happen, even then you can just keep erasing with a different part of the eraser until the smudge goes away

>>2980392
Mein neger.
Only spent dimes on ink pens.

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Does anyone use these pentel orenz pencils? How are they?

>>2984640
I cant find those in my city(3b or 4b grade) , do you get them from internet ?

>>2980392
these, but in 0.5mm

I also like the Staedtler Rip Tides. Be sure to change out the eraser because they got hard in like a month.

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>>2986422
How many leads can you store in the barrel? I know that the graph gear apparently allows you to keep more in there. The Pentel twist erase limits you to one lead at a time, which can really upset your flow.

I like to use the derwent range of pencils.

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Since this is the closest to art supplies thread, I'll ask here. What tool was used for this drawing, the one beside it?

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>>2980197

I love these

>>2993930

Looks like brush work to me.

I don't like mechanical pencils as they lack a broad side to shade And if you're just doing lines, why not use a pen instead.

>>2994390
1. You can't erase
2. There's no lineweight
3. It doesn't draw like a pencil

>>2993930
That's just a hobby knife, m8. He probably just cut out the drawing and put a sheet of black paper beneath.

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anyone /0.3mm/ here?

as for brand, love pic related. the metal grip feels good and I don't lose pencils anymore so I don't mind paying $9. only complaint is the tip can get bent if you drop it weird

>>2994416
I kinda wanted to switch to 0.3 but I already have three 0.5s I'm happy with and 0.3 leads cost three times as much when you buy them in bulk.

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>>2980197
These bad boys

>>2994416
I use 0.3mm pencils a lot because they makes lines close to a 0.7mm ballpoint pen and give a similar feeling of carving into the page like a pen does. I usually use a Graphgear 1000 because of the retractable tip. I prefer Rotring 600s but I leave them on my drawing desk. I've thought about getting a Draftmatic, but the tip is on a spring and compresses when you press down on it, right? I don't think I could stand that.

>>2994390
Plenty of drafting pencils come in 0.3, 0.5, 0.7, and 0.9mm lead thicknesses and have a lead grade indicator. Even just a 0.3mm HB and 0.9mm 2B mechanical pencil can make just about any type of marks you'd want to make.

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Getting this bad banana... What should I expect?

>>2993200
This, please

I have a super cheap 0.5 mechanical pencil and I hate it for sketching because my artwork gets a lot more scratchier than usual.

I wonder if I should spend the money for a good pencil and give it another try? Maybe even go for something like 0.9 for rough sketching?

>>2994438
Unironically kill yourself.
Pentel Side Fx or Twist Erase are at least not shit.

>Mechanical pencil
Is it worth it?
be honest

>>2995225
Grab the Pentel P205 or a Graphgear (500 is lighter and better feeling but the 1000 has a retractable play). If you want to try a better mechanical pencil.
If your looking for shading instead of purely using these for sketchy line work maybe grab a lead holder. Steadtler Mars Technica is bretty good.

Personally I'm grabbing a Steadtler 925 25 05 because of its good build quality and that I don't need a retractable tip play.

>>2995553
I absolutely abhor sharpening pencils. I feel like I go through a pencil a day when I do that.

A mechanical pencil is pretty much just click and go. Don't need to find a hand sharpener or get out of my seat when sketching outside or doing notes in class.

Plus I do almost all of my sketching and studies with a Steadtler or Micron anyway. So a mechanical pencil is a good translation anyway.

>>2995553
If you do line drawing there's literally no reason to go with anything else.

0.5 leads are cheaper than cheap pencils in terms of the length you get
no sharpening

>>2995566
>>2995578
Thanks

>>2995553
>blue leads + mech pencil
Golden for any kind of comic drawing since it won't show up in a scan. It's also good to have a weight bearing down on the page sometimes, it can give you the sense that you're lifting objects instead of just drawing them.

What mechanical pencil would you recommend?

>>2995750
Well what do you usually draw? Architecture, layouts, landscapes, cartoons, or something?

>>2995553

No, they fucking suck.

>>2996333
Why?

>>2996363

Because they can only give you a dead line. A leadholder is so much more useful.

>>2996366
Depends. A regular pencil is best for drawing but a .7mm is still useful for transferring it to bristol.

>>2996414

Now you have me curious about your process. I scan my pencils and print them in cyan onto bristol.

>>2996366
Try .7 and .9 mechanical pencils.

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>>2986351

>>2996474

Why bother when I can quickly and easily get a 2mm lead that sharp?

>>2993672
As many as you want. You can remove the eraser parts entirely when you refill leads.

>>2980197
I like the Pentel graphgear 1000 mechanical pencils a lot

>>2996366
Just use a tablet like a normal person.

>>2993930
Cute. CUTE.

fuck pencils


digital art ftw

>>2993930
a brush or brush pen, the xacto knife is there because the artist is messing with you

>>2999934
?t le?st im not ? jew

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2mm+ Master Race checking in.

>>3000041
Just look at how the lines taper. That's definitely cut, a brush doesn't look that unnatural.

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>>3000057
I'm admiring that ....5.6mm ? I got a lot of hardmuth carbon awhile back and I'm missing it greatly... The carbon pencils aren't the same at all. I'd much rather sharpen bare carbon than carbon with wood on it.

>>2994874
They're heavy. I only use these when I want to draw in some dark lines with a bit more control than my lighter mechanical pencils. Don't expect a lot of fast sketch lines, though, but you might develop a good hand for it soon enough, I suppose. Have fun with them.

>>3000057
The only thing bad about these is the sharpening when you have to get a good point on them. Other than that, these lead holders are cool. I have a few mixed in with my mech pencils—HB, H and 4B weights.

>>2996418
Thanks for the tip!

who /#2/ here?
i dont think im good enough to justify anything more expensive. wish i could find a set with good erasers though.
>>2980392
this is also good but im too cheap and lazy to get lead for mine.

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>>3000752
forgot pic

>>2980260
the barrels are too slippery desu.

rotring knockoffs on ebay are superior.

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I just got the Papermate precision and I think it's pretty nice. Fairly light weight and has a nice grip. Not expensive like my kuru toga too.

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>>3000870
No, they're pretty comfy. You don't need a knurled grip if you don't have sweaty pig hands.
As for the Redcircles, they may be brass but they're still cheaply made with a crappy mechanism. If you want a Rotring just buy a fucking Rotring. They're not that expensive.

>>3000893
Is this just a rebranded Tikky? You can even see the mould for where the red ring would go.

>>3000893
that looks like very cheap plastic

>>3000915
I wish they made these in 2.0

best 5mm??

>>3002103
The Koh-i-Noor brass ones are nice and solid. Otherwise you can spend twice as much on a Kaweco or e+m.

>>3001518
It doesn't feel that cheap to me. I mean it's a cheap alternative to nice mech pencils so maybe?

>>3000915
And I think it is. I've never heard of Tikky personally but it seems like Papermate totally ripped them off. yikes.

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>>3002730
Or rather Rotring licensed them. I've seen these floating around with the Rotring branding + Papermate logo as well. They should be exactly the same pencil that Rotring sells, just at a lower cost for the plain version I imagine.

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the cheaper ones. preferably 0.7b,
always carry a proper eraser though, pic related is alright.
because if you know what you're doing you don't need to spend money on overpriced burando pencils which eventually get lost anyway,
just to have a feeling of value towards what you're doing for whatever lifestyle reasons.
pentel is fine tho

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I love its grip.

>>3002756
Makes sense

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Mine is just like this one.
It used to belong to my aunt, but she gave it to me after my beautiful Pentel broke.

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Can't decide between a pentel graphgear 500 or the steadtler 925 25

>>3002191
thanks

>>3003513
Got one of these. I like it well enough. I like it much better than my twist erase if that means anything.

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>>3000893
That rubber grip wears off. That's why i replaced mine with cheap tombow

>>3003057
I have this too. Pencils with a triangle barrel are really comfortable to use.