RIP Shadman for like the 7th time this month. This time it looks

What is going on? He's also lost his Patreon. Why is all his stuff getting shutdown?

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finally

Whelp. Yup, OP ain't lying Shadbase is dead.

>>2953420
Did he get raided?

Woah, what happened this time.

he should move to Japan
drawing lolis is big crime here

>>2953420
not a fan of shadman. But damn so I can't draw whatever I want to and make money because people want to buy it??

>>2953440
Use Japanese host. Or any loli-friendly country host.

Can someone exaplin what's happening.

>>2953440
It's probably cause the retard was drawing real life children that actually exist. There's plenty of western porn artists who do loli shit and nothing's ever happened to them.

>>2953447
This is pretty much the biggest stipulation with western art like that is that as long as it's not based on anyone real most people will turn a blind eye to it. They'll judge you but as long as no one is actually getting hurt it can slide.

What an idiot.

Can anyone confirm if he got arrested or not?

>>2953447
>>2953451
But lolis are not allowed on Patreon. People just not report unless it's buttmad personal vendetta raid

Didn't Shadman lose his Patreon?

>shitty artist
>pedo
whats all the fuss aboot?

>>2953460
yep. he create new one

>>2953465
How did he lose his old one? Why did he make a new one; won't it get shutdown again?

>>2953470
They asking him to delete lolis.

>>2953438
but its not

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>>2953426
You know why anon

What's his new Patreon? Should I even bothering donating or will it get shutdown?

FUCKING KEK

damn this is actually a bit scary. i don't draw loli but i do draw tons of weird shit, is that a danger??

>>2953486
>even considering donating to shad
Die
>>2953620
No. Lolis aren't even that bad. Shad literally drew porn of real kids.

>>2953420
What has he done now? I starting to feel sorry for the poor fucker.
No wonder hes slowly quitting.

I feel bad for him now.

>>2953620

No, just don't draw porn of real people especially kids and you won't get in trouble like his dumb ass. Pretty simple IMO. inb4 someone says something stupid about freedom or not hurting someone. Doesn't matter. If you draw porn of someone with the intention of it being a likeness of the person rest assured you can get in trouble for it. People get cease and desist for depicting fictional characters in pornographic situations, you think you're fine?

>>2953646
Really? I don't.

>>2953646
dont. his illustrations were awful

>>2953626
You mean retiring.

>>2953420
HAH! Good, I hope the pedo gets jail.

>>2953682
Why are people so anti against a man who did nothing wrong

>>2953673
Either way hes not doing well he lost his patrion.
Well he was drawing real live loli's you know that saying play stupid games win stupid prizes?

>>2953658
>>2953622

oh alright, i guess that makes sense. makes me kind of wonder why shad would step that low though. is he retarded? i mean didn't he already get into trouble with the law for drawing loli?

anyway... maybe he's just into controversy for marketing purposes.

>>2953684
Even if hes an artist just like us and isn't as bad as other artists hell there's worse.
/ic/ is full of hate, crabs in a bucket mentality

>>2953684
because his art breeds pedophiles. if you're a pedo, that's your issue to deal with. if you encourage thousands of others into thinking that being a pedophile is in any way normal, that's a harmful problem. i honestly hope you sickos can see that.

>>2953699
people WILL make whatever they want no matter how bad the consequences, not everyone will change.
Shad and anyone else that does condone to the whole "Draw whatever the fuck you want Total Freedom"
I suggest posting your degeneracy in a less anal place like pixiv or further underground.

>>2953699
Why is being black, homosexual, a tranny okay? But not anything else?

>>2953708
i wasn't saying anything's gonna change. of course you can't stop people from drawing what they want. i was just trying to explain WHY it's fucking illegal to someone who apparently doesn't see anything wrong with normalizing pedophilia.

>>2953699
But his art wasn't hurting anybody??

>>2953716
Normalization is just a society thing though

>>2953714
lol yeah cultural Marxists .

>>2953714
>>2953718
pedophiles are people who have sexual urges when they see children. child molesters are the ones who act on these urges. no, it's not illegal to be a pedophile, but being one means you are only one step away from seriously hurting a child. if you think you might be a pedophile, please seek help.

>>2953738
>please seek help
Read: kill yourself

>>2953738
>seek help
for what purpose, retard?

pedophilia doesn't require ANY psychological treatment whatsoever.

also, pedophilia diagnosis doesn't include any psychotic traits. a pedo is as likely to be a rapist as a non pedo.

>>2953754

>a pedophile is as likely to be a rapist as a non pedo

Wouldn't they be moreso though? A non-pedo can play out their sexual urges in any amount of situations, same for a homosexual, tranny, etc, because it's legal and within the law. However no matter how a pedophile acts upon their urges, past masturbating to fictional material, they're participating in a heavily illegal activity and if it's actually physical it's outright rape. They logically have more chances to be a rapist than a non-pedo because a non-pedo doesn't have to put away their urges.

>>2953738
>seek help
You do know drawings arent real retard?
The reason 3d loli is banned today is because the cause damage to the child in question.
A drawing of a loli isnt real its fictional so nobodys getting hurt.

>>2953738
Kim Jung Gi draw guro, rape and killing
That means he's murderer and rapist

>>2953754
>pedophilia doesn't require ANY psychological treatment whatsoever
It does. Pedophilia isn't attraction to children, that is a misconception. Not everyone that molests children is a pedo.
Pedophilia is a crippling preocupation with sexual urges towards children, and is a mental illness.
Generally, child abusers get sent to a mental institution when diagnosed with pedophilia, not jail.

>>2953787
No, but that implies he's a sadist.
Drawing pedo makes you a pedo, but it doesn't make you a child molester.

>>2953788
you're mixing pedophilia with a pedophilic disorder, retard

is like saying everyone that enjoys eating have an eating disorder.

>>2953788
You do know theres no ''cure'' for pedophiles right?
Its like being gay your born with it.
So if one uses 2d to satisfy his diseres so he does not actually starts grooming kids whats wrong with it?

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>People here are actually defending pedophiles

What the hell

>>2953792
>Pedophilia is termed pedophilic disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), and the manual defines it as a paraphilia involving intense and recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about prepubescent children that have either been acted upon or which cause the person with the attraction distress or interpersonal difficulty.[1]
It's the same thing, breh

>>2953767
Actually, I remember reading that most child molesters weren't actually diagnosed as pedophiles.

They were just psychopaths, who found children to be the easiest pray.

>>2953801
Only pedophiles defend pedophiles.

Though I'd argue that loli is not necessarily child porn as the way lolis are most commonly depicted are more like a non-existing age of a human.

>>2953801
My thoughts exactly holy shit

>>2953801
drawings dont equal reality moron its completely fictional so no one is being harmed.

Its the same with guro or vore >>2953809
>>2953805

>>2953810
shut the fuck up

>>2953802
What a retard. Learn to read.

Pedophilia is a paraphilia, aka fetish. They're NOT classified as mentall dissorders.

A disorder is an entire different thing. Everything can become a disorder when it starts disrupting your normal life.

>>2953801
If you can't see both of the sides, you don't deserve to judge.

>>2953811
Too salty to reply with an actual counter argument?

>>2953817
Re-read your own post. You sound so stupid, there's no hope for you.

>>2953810
If I constantly drew pictures of modern day people throwing jews into ovens and society being the better for it, I'm fairly confident I'd get into trouble regardless of hurr durr not real

>>2953805
>Only drug addicts deffend drugs

>>2953822
It's true.

>>2953812
http://www.msdmanuals.com/en-nz/professional/psychiatric-disorders/sexuality,-gender-dysphoria,-and-paraphilias/pedophilic-disorder
>Pedophilic Disorder
(Pedophilia)
>Pedophilia is form of paraphilia that causes harm to others and is thus considered a a paraphilic disorder.

>>2953820
Again its fictional NO body is being hurt why do you care so much what kind of drawings people jerk of to? In the especially in the privacy of their own homes.

>>2953812
http://dsm.psychiatryonline.org/doi/book/10.1176/appi.books.9780890425596#/doi/full/10.1176/appi.books.9780890425596.dsm19
>paraphilic disorders
The literal book on mental disorders disagrees

>>2953813
I'm on the side where the pedophiles should be rid of.

>>2953828
>DSM-5 redefines the term paraphilia so that it now refers to a sexual arousal pattern, independent of whether it causes any distress or impairment, which, by itself, would not be considered disordered.

anyway, when discussion goes to the field of the dictionary, is a clear sign of useless shitposting

I love e-celebs :)

>>2953834
Here we go the fap police .
Muh drawings equal reality argument does guro cause people to commit cannibalism or does fury cause people to commit zoophilia?

>>2953838
>get rekt
>s-s-shitposting
Pssht
Nothin personnel

There's literally nothing wrong with being a pedophile.

Jesus Christ this happens in every shad tread it all just devolves into meaningless shitposting.>>2953845

>>2953787
Really? When?

/ic/ sure does love to talk about shadman!
>b-buh we're only talking about him because we h-h..hate him!!!

okie

>>2953828
>>2953833

>DSM-5 introduces the distinction between ascertaining a paraphilia and diagnosing a paraphilic disorder

please learn to read before keep shitposting, you retard.
i can't be more clear than that.

>>2953801
>irrational emotional person: I dont like this group of people so let's censor them and limit their freedom of expression
>rational, objective, principled: hey let's not do that. they haven't hurt anyone, it's none of your business, and if you dont like it dont look at it
>irrational person: omg how very dare you defend them!!!!!! ;___; muh feels.

So what are we talking about here. Like did he draw young teens or toddlers? I will assume it was hardcore porn.

>>2953689
We're talking aboout the same guy who did porn of his mom, here.

>>2953738
heterosexuals are people who have sexual urges when they see the opposite sex. rapists are the ones who act on these urges. no, it's not illegal to be heterosexual, but being one means you are one step away from seriously hurting someone of the opposite sex. if you think you might be heterosexual, please seek help.

>>2953947
Heterosexuality is not a pathologic sexual condition.

>>2953927
A bit of both.

All we know is that whatever he drew, he did it badly

>>2953948
And being a pedophile doesn't make you psychotic. Going down the slippery slope that because you have fantasies of having sex with kids means you're going to be a child abuser can said the same for rapists.

>>2953420
AHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHHHHAhAHAHAAHAHhahahaahhaHAHHAHAHAhaahahahhaaHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
*Takes in deep breath*
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHHHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!! Pedophiles on suicide watch! AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA etc etc

>>2953464
>aboot
Hi Canada

>>2953942
Have you seen his mom? God damn.

I'd do porn of her too.

>>2953947
Nah, doesn't hold water. The problem people have with trusting pedophiles with kids is that they see sexual stuff in things kids do. It's like trusting a normal young guy to not touch a sexy babe who is hitting on him heavily.

ITT: Normalfags discover 4chan for the first time.

>>2953993
That's right, keep running on that wheel hamster.

>>2953995
x D

>>2953997
*squeak-squeak*
*run run run run run*
Keep on rollin', hamster-boi.

>>2953947
that's true, though.

All men are potential rapists by their own nature, if given the opportunity.

>>2953842
>does fury cause people to commit zoophilia?
this is a big yes, those people are disgusting.

>>2954003
What do you mean men. Women too. They just get a lot less opportunity. Sluts can get pretty aggressive or hostile if you don't want to fuck.

>>2954003
speak for urself rapist

>>2954040
not at all. by their nature women want to choose a male provider and stay with him for around 3 years, while their offspring grows up.

men just want to fuck as much females as they can.

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>>2953801
>artists here are actually attacking their own rights

What the hell

>>2954067
Are you an idiot?

>>2954067
The ideal human female mating scenario is fucking many males that do not get attached, actually.

The ideal male scenario is fucking many females that stay loyal and do not fuck other males.

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>>2953420

>>2953801
just so you know my cultural Marxist comment was satire.

>>2953947
the difference is, a 7yo can't consent, but two heterosexual adults can.

>>2954155
99.99% pedos are into 10+ years old, not toddlers, as retarded msm thinks.

also, people under 20 having sex should be illegal. they're too stupid, and the risk of unwanted pregnacy is too high.

>>2954171
statistics to back that up? and being into 10-13yo is still pretty fucked up imo, seeing that they aren't even teens yet.
>people under 20 having sex should be illegal. they're too stupid
true

>>2954145
>implying

The worst part wasn't even the fact that he drew porn of real kids.

He drew porn of that girl from Stranger Things, so Hollywood is preparing their special 10" litigation cock ready to spear him up the ass.

>>2954216
Why does Hollywood follow Shadman though?

>>2954219
Shadman is fairly well known for an internet smut manufacturer.

>>2954219
they don't. he was reported

the day of the rope is upon us friends.

>>2953485
the jews?

maybe his time with bubba in club fed will make him more knowledgable about anatomy.

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Well Shadbase is back again. And I hope you all feel like idiots.

Hate him as much as you want; he's starting to get really, really, really good at art.

>>2954398
Based Shad did wendy's too?

>>2953485
>>2954141
<.<

Why do I feel like this has something to do with me?

>>2954398
Big bbbutt uuugh i c c um uh so good soooii good at art so goood butttt

>>2953819
Re-read your own post. You sound so stupid, there's no hope for you.

>>2954398

He's determined to give me a buck tooth fetish but it ain't gonna happen

Good thing kjg can draw all this nasty shit, still get away with it and be super popular in mainstream

>>2954412
now you're getting it

>>2954455
kek

>>2954453
I didn't know kjg was a pedophile

>>2954398
Is this Shad? Damn he's to fucking good now.

>>2954398
>that picture
>really good at art

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Seems like his server provider thought he was in the UK. Jesus Christ the UK has some fucked up stupid laws for porn.

>>2954505
You wouldn't want to give women the wrong ideas about sex, would you, kafir?
Inshallah, your USA will soon be under- I mean see the wisdom of such legislation.

Also, peeing is allowed as long anotjer person does not come into contact with the pee.

>>2954488
I didn't know shadman was a pedophile

>>2954453
>popular
>mainstream
More people can recognize shadman's shit than there are people who even knew kjg exists at any point in their lives

>>2954521
>Shit 4chan says

I dislike Shadman, but shouldn't you be able to create whatever you want as long as you don't infringe copyright? Like, thoughts should be free and art should be able to display thoughts and ideas without censorship. I think it's really not about the content itself, but to state an example how the government is limiting creative freedom.

>>2954453
Fuck y'all talking about? When did KJG get into hentai?

>>2954525
>hurr durr
It's true, though. KJG isn't even ubiquitous among artists outside /ic/.

>>2954525
I bet you think Ruan Jia is popular and mainstream, too.

>>2954529
lol young people today, 'censoring child pron is wrong, but we must uphold corporations' intellectual property rights'

>>2954547
>corporations' intellectual property rights
You know you're a shit-tier worthless artist when you hear "copyright" and think "corporations' intellectual property" instead of "my intellectual property".

You just keep drawing that nintendo porn, anon, I'm sure you'll get far.

>>2954547
Intellectual property rights are an important part of our free market. Freedom of speech is an important part of our idea of liberty. I don't see how these ideas clash.

>>2954552
child porn, great!

picture of spiderman! you monster!

come on

>>2954559
It's more like

child porn, great!

spiderman child porn, you monster, you're getting sued!

>>2954559
>emotional argument
You're free to have your own ethical and political opinions, but this isn't worth my time.

>>2954563
it's not an emotional argument,

you are willing to accept a limitation on the freedom of speech because of private interest, in the form of copy right

you are not willing to accept a limitation on the freedom of speech due to public interest, in the form of laws designed to protect children

that makes you a corporate shill

it's either/or, if you're willing to accept the degradation of free speech for whatever reason then public interest is as good as private. copy right is as bad as any other kind of censorship. you're so busy protecting your pussy from government that you didn't notice business sliding it's dick up your ass.

>>2954569
>that makes you a corporate shill
Counter argument:

He partakes of cartoon cp and so does not care much for its outlawing since it does not harm him personally, nor does its outlawing benefit him.
He wants to be an artist, and such is invested in making society protect his works through copyright, about which he would not care were there no personal benefit to him (ie if he wasn't an artist and so benefited more from an ability to infringe on copyright).

Conclusion:
He is just a faggot on the internet looking out #1 with not enough empathy (presumably from his youth spent as an autist that masturbates almost exclusively to cartoon porn) to care about ramification of popularization and normalization of the idea of pedophilic relations.

>>2954569
Corporations don't take legal actions against fanart. I agree that it should be legal to create or recreate other properties, I just think you shouldn't be allowed to profit financially from it. The problem is that the line is pretty blurry and while corporations can sue individual artists who use their intellectual property they only seem to do so if it's really hurting their image, which is understandable. I'd handle things myself like that in this regard. I can't understand how you, who is probably also an artist, is against copyright laws. This has nothing to do with being a 'corporate shill' but merely acting in my own best interest.

> protect children
How exactly do these laws 'protect children'? It's not like shad promotes child rape or uses life models for his art. I don't like content pandering to pedophiles either, but should it be illegal? Hell, no!

>>2954575
>It's not like shad [...] uses life models for his art
But he does, that's what the last "omg shadman is done for real this time" thing was about, when whatshername's lawyers smelled blood.

>>2954577
inb4 "but she wasn't really having sex, so it's ok"
>we must protect copyright
>but a little girl has no rights to her own image and can be depicted as you please in porn

>>2954577
Let me rephrase it: It's not like he has nude children in his appartment. He is just taking inspiration from real life celeb kids. I think the chances that shad's porn will harm them in any way are really low. More likely their status and drug abuse fucks them up.

If you argue against the portrayal of pedophilia, you should probably also be concerned about the glorification of drug abuse or violence. Or necrophilia, bestiality, torture, the wrong use of pronouns etc. etc.
Banning a certain subject will result in more and more regulations.

>>2954583
>being this predictable

>>2954583
>He is just taking inspiration from real life celeb kids.
Are you a literal retard?

>depict real child getting gang raped with the photo of a child posted with the drawing and stating it is her (the actual situation here)
>it's just taking inspiration, bro

>redraw the killing joke
>REEEE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR FREE MARKET AND MUST BE PROTECTED

>>2954585
>running out of arguments

>>2954580
You can copyright your face if that's what you want to do. Else it's on you. Likeness is not a copyright infringement, else Warhol would've been sued and there would be no references in any media.

You sound like a pretentious left winger numale. These arguments are literally vegan tier.

>>2954531
Since the beginning? Duuh? Things like cannibalism mixed with rape, jesus don't ask me to google that for you.
>>2954540
>>2954547
You must be 18 to post on this site.

>>2954588
>he doesn't know how to draw from imagination
>he think drawing from an ''inspiration'' is the same as human printer copping a pic
>if you draw child porn that means you must have some kids in your basement for ''inspiration''

normal fag get out, and return when you can do 1% of what kjg does

>>2954594
Literally what are you even talking about, you illiterate imbecile?

>>2954599
I suppose I shouldn't expect you to understand if you didn't on your own

>150+ replies
>60+ posters

I'll never fucking get this. Why do those threads gets so much attention? Why do you care so much? Just go draw and stop wasting time on this worthless internet drama. Is arguing about some nobody that fun? I wouldn't even know about this guy if it wasn't for the threads here.

>>2954603
it's not about the drama around a single case, but the general opinions on the subject of this case

if OP artist would have lost his account for a reason everybody agreed on, nobody would care that particular artist lost his account, it's the reason for which he did that is discussed

>>2953420
>be pedophile
>Draw pedophile stuff with nazi shit
>get suspended
kek he deserves it

>>2954612
>do no crime
>have different tastes and ideas than the mainstream
>kek he deserves getting suspended

>>2954617
Being a subhuman artist with shitty skills that draws pedo stuff is already crime for me.

>>2954617
>picks sensitive topic to provoke
>acts unapologetic when confronted
>wonders why he got banned

>>2954505
>female ejaculation
>not nice sex
Wew

>>2954592
Please google that for me. "Kim Jung Gi hentai" gets nothing

>>2954505
>>2954667
Yeah, the UK doesn't allow porn that depicts female ejaculation because they consider female ejaculation the same as piss (they did some studies on the contents of female ejaculation and determined it to be similar to piss) and porn depicting female pissing is considered grotesque in the UK.

Source: search "female ejaculation UK ban"

if you ask me, by the end of the day

consuming media meant to sexually turn you on, involving fictive underage characters, is not a crime itself, (not more than consuming violent media meant to make you image doing violent actions, which would otherwise be real crimes). But that doesn't mean it should not be used as prof of the tendencies of the rapist in case of a real sexual crime involving a real kid (in the same way the violent character of a, let's say, school shooter, is bought to attention after the incident)

And so, it's a matter of where do you draw the line. Showing media with violence to kids is ok, even if nobody is expected to do such acts, showing media with sex to kids is ok, even if just married adults are expected to do so, showing media with sexual acts between adults and kids TO ADULTS should be ok, even if nobody expects from somebody to do so. Showing sexual acts between adults and kids TO KIDS is where I draw the line.

If they learn about sex and why, for them, is a crime since they are not ready for it, then it's all good. Getting their eyes on media which shows otherwise, is not ok, because of conflicting ideas with the education given previously. An adult should be able to know better, so for him, as long as he's not actually doing the crime, consuming such media should not be a problem

For obvious reason, media made using real kids should still be a crime.

>>2954505
>>2954667
>spanking
>not nice sex
the list, literally, goes on

>>2954677
>asking for spoonfeeding

>>2954681
if female ejaculation is the same as pissing, then how does the church handle the fact that all women masturbates daily, a few times a day, since the day they are born

>>2954685
>all women masturbate daily, a few times a day, since the day they are born
what?

>>2954688
>if female ejaculation is the same as pissing
reading comprehension my nice dubs friend

>>2954690
A short mental exercise for you: If all X are Z, does that mean every Z is also an X? Think before you post, retard.

>>2954700
I stand corrected, my nice dubs friend

you are never wrong, but this time you could also convince me with logic you are right

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>>2954685
>yes

Spoonfeed me.

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>>2954714
only because you gave me a reason to scroll thru my kjg folder

he doesn't have an hentai per se, but he does lot's of drawings depicting sex, and not few times animals or anthros are involved

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>>2954720
after commenting that I remember he has a book only on this subject, but I did not see

so you can definality say he has quite the work around that subject

>>2954398
>>I hope you all feel like idiots
I don't know, Anon. I'm not the one getting my accounts deleted multiple times a months for being a degenerate. I have no idea who these people are that keep mass-reporting him across every websites/platforms, but whoever they are they're literally Gods Among Men. Really, don't stop.

This isn't going to end anytime Anon, you already know that.

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>>2954720
>>2954723
WTF I love KJG now! Thanks bro

>>2954723
>sex
subtle

>>2954738
It's not like the rest of the image is any less subtle lol

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this is a kjg thread now

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>>2954754
if not for that hand on the back of the kneed that pic would had a different meaning

>>2953803
No they where pedophiles anon, there are many instances of child molestation going unnoticed. This happens a lot in families and they keep it quiet as uncle Harry hops from kid to kid when they get too old.

F

U

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>>2954398
>good at art
i really hope those are baits.

also
>"i dont need the money Lmao XDDD le funny meme"
>start a new patreon*

>>2954776
>also
>>"i dont need the money Lmao XDDD le funny meme"
>>start a new patreon*
Shad is a massive attention-whore who needs all eyes on him at all times. "I don't care for _____, but I will NOT stand for _____! I don't need cash, but I want cash! Donate to me, puppets!". Hell, he was in /co/ yesterday drawing the FOTM because hes an original hack, he was caught replying to himself like a cunt too.

>Everything about that image
What the fuck? Why is her neck so goddamn long, also what the hell is going on with that face?

>>2954776
lmao dont redline again

>>2954776
I respect you for trying to correct it but you are not at a level where that is a clever idea. there are more things off about your redline than his original drawing

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Come on boys. Let's see your shot at it! Even if it is off, you will still have the relief of knowing that you have not been drawing for 6 years with little to no improvement :)

>>2954784
Attention whoring is the reason why shadman has a lot of people paying him.

>>2954813
People paying Shadman are predophile sympathizers.

>>2954814
No wonder he hit a jackpot.

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>>2954827
>3k-5k a month
>jackpot
But nah, all jokes aside -- what's with all these pedos suddenly coming out of the woodworks now? I mean, they were obviously always here, but around the end of 2016 I'm noticing them become waaay more vocal, whether they're popular or not. What the hell is going on? I have no problem with lgbt, but these "people"? Please don't give these sub-humans rights, for the love of God.

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>>2954811
Shadman's better than me but I like the "your style" meme.

>>2954848
If you're being sincere - I don't have one and won't make one in near future. Still grinding fundamentals traditionally, not blog worthy.

/ic/ has a higher female ratio so all this shitposting most likely comes from them and false flagging shad "fans" that want to get easy (You)s.

I don't like shad at all but I do like drawing loli and it's always funny seeing people complain about it on fucking 4chan of all places.

>>2954857
>/ic/ has a higher female ratio so all this shitposting most likely comes from them and false flagging shad "fans" that want to get easy (You)s
Wrong. Shad fans are this annoying, even before the whole drama bullshit. /ic/ or not, they spam his art everywhere and use those stupid ass smug anime girl pictures whenever people call them out on their bullshit. They're as bad as FF fans, sometimes even worse. It's no wonder whoever has that personal-vendetta against Shad keeps fucking with him, it's the only way to make them shut the fuck up(for awhile, of course).

>>2954857
>/ic/ has a higher female ratio so all this shitposting most likely comes from them
>>>/r9k/

>>2954857
Of course because you know nothing about likeness rights.

>>2954884
>all persons fictitious disclaimer
What Southpark has been doing for years

>>2954881
You might be a grill and be indifferent about loliposting but it doesn't change the fact that the other women browsing 4chan go insane about it.

>>2954910
Why do you think that it's women?
I never minded it, and met a few over the years who get off on it.

Loli has nothing to do with Shadman being scum.

>>2954913
I'm talking about the pedophilia argument that always erupts in these threads and I do agree shadman is scum.

I think it's women because in other boards whenever the 2D girl is superior than 3D meme wars start people complaining about 2D always resort to the pedophilia argument too. I also think it's dumb comparing drawn porn to real life.

>>2954881
But it's true

>>2953801
It's the same kind of disability people are born with as homo/trans-sexuality, a simple deviation from what's normal.

Pedophiles exist and will continue to exist. Isn't it better to let them fap to fictional cartoons in the privacy of their room than to make them suppress their urges until they can no longer hold it and actually hurt someone?

I'm neither a pedophile or apologist, I'm just trying to come up with a rational solution to a problem.

>>2954853
I really like the bold, rough look. It makes it look like you're really, really good and only choose to make rough drawings, whether it's true or not.
Start a blog once you start producing somewhat consistent work and don't lose that simplistic aesthetic. I believe in you anon.

>>2953738
>please seek help.
I did this, today, since this argument pops over and over. Was my monthly checkup. Literally just got home from my psychiatrist. I explained loli to him, he found it a bit strange at first, didn't know this kind of drawings even existed. I faked being really concerned about this and said I "hid" it from him for fear of possible repercussions.

He asked me a bunch of followup questions, but the gist of it was: "do you want to act on it? do you think you might act on it?", and the answer was no.

He didn't change my therapy. He told me he comes across very worse things, and not to worry about it. He suggested I stop because there might be legal repercussions. Even though I told him it's technically legal here, he made a good point: if an ignorant law enforcement department accuses me of something like this, it may be life over whether or not I get cleared or not; better not to risk it.

And that was it.

>>2954948
Makes you think about what's worse.

>>2954951
he mentioned animals and corpses

>>2954952
>inb4 electrocute furries

>>2954398
drawing popular things, meh

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Good riddance.

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Shadman's face when this is shadman

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>>2954999
/ic/'s jealousy knows no bounds.

Remember: those who can't make it try to put those who can down.

>>2955003
He said face, not body you degenerate slob.

>>2954720
>>2954723
The difference is KJG is actually good Shadman was shit AND used underaged characters

Site and patreon look up to me...?

>>2954948
I have watched enough javs to know this will end in you being blackmailed to suck his cock until you finally beg him to fuck your boipussy and proclaiming you love his dick more than your son as he fucks you in front of him.

Just remember: whatever you do, don't let him take you out for a walk

>>2955129
i'd love to fuck him, but he's 9/10 and i'm 2/10 at best when I'm fit, but right now I'm obese kek

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>>2953420
I'd say is kinda sad that some people become so obsessed and angry at that shadman guy that they keep making those false accusations over and over again.

But it itsn't sad: these people are sociopaths and only deserve to be punished.

They're causing real economic harm to that particular artist, shitting on the art community in general, and making the sjw movement look sillier to the public opinion, if such thing is even possible

>>2955144
>these people are sociopaths and only deserve to be punished
The same thing needs to be said about you and pedophiles. Stop spamming your bullshit everywhere, bitch.

i draw lolis/toddlers

This kind of shit really bugs me, shad is a a shitty artist and a real cunt of a person, but I feel bad for him.

His drawings are just drawings, nobody deserves to have this much shit tossed at them over some bullshit they drew.

If you people knew anything about anatomy etc, you'd know that these drawings of his are very VERY far from realistic, and his lolis dont look childish at all. Often his loli's have adult bodies, (wide hips, breasts, adult abdominal muscles)

If people are saying shad is such a pedophile, wouldnt you think his drawings would look more like actual children?

>>2953426
Probably because he drew lolis getting throat raped

>>2954730
Awesome! Does that mean you're coming back to life, David Foster Wallace?

>>2955204
for the gorillionth time

He's not being harassed for drawing lolis, he's being harassed because he drew real human little grills. I like drawing loli too but you have to be on another level of stupidity to think that drawing shit like that won't get you in trouble but apparently shad is on that level.

>>2955235
>"Time to draw stupid shit!"
>gets minor backlash
>"Don't worry, no more stupid shit. I'm serious!"
>draws more stupid shit because "HAHA, Umad?! xDDDDD"
>gets large backlash
>"Oh no! This is bad, but I know what to do at this exact moment!"
>draws more stupid shit
>"Oops, I did it again!"
>draws more stupid shit
>"Oops, I did it again!"
>draws more stupid shit
>"Oops, I did it again!"
>draws more stupid shit
>"Oops, I did it again!"
>draws more stupid shit
>"Oops, I did it again!"
>draws more stupid shit
>gets multiple accounts and Patreon taken down
>"Leave me alone you big bullies :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((("
>draws more stupid shit
Shad unironically loves the hate, why else is he doing this?

>>2955235
I personally think he should stay away from drawing celebs and shit.
>I like drawing loli too
Oh, I'm glad to know there are other loli artists on /ic/!

>>2955241
^this kind of retardation of his is never good, especially when you have such a huge normalfag fanbase who seems to think what you draw is "edgy" (when in fact, its not)

I feel bad for him getting all this negative feedback, but i think its a combination of his vanity, retardation, and his horrid fanbase.
If he as more modest, less of an attention whore, he would not have such a large amount of normalfags who flip out every time he draws some retarded looking " " loli " "

Lots of other artists draw Dafne Keen, lots of other artists draw cartoon depictions of real world people, the only reason hes getting shit is because he himself is a normalfag, who makes his money triggering other normalfags who have absolutely no taste when it comes to lolicon.

>>2955241
>"Oops, I did it again!"
>"Leave me alone you big bullies :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((("

He has literally never apologized or felt sorry for any of it.

>>2955261
He did, or at least acted like he did the first time. Watch the livestream with Colusizim or whatever his fucking name is.
>"No more guys, I'm removing it!"
>draws more stupid shit

>>2955003
>holding someone's dick in a dick measuring contest

even if you hate him you shouldn't be happy about censorship

>>2953699
>because his art breeds pedophiles i honestly hope you sickos can see that

violent video games breed murderers I hope you can see that you sicko

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>>2955406
Why should I care about shittily drawn loli porn getting censored?

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La parte contratante de la primera parte.

Censorship only affects 3rd world artists, actors, and writers. For other parts of the world it only affects degenerates and law breakers. That shit has no power against NORMAL people. Only shady-cunts are afraid of fucking censorship.

shit
>>2955549
^
>>2955406

>>2953420
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Play with fire...

>>2953801

This is my opinion: It should be more acceptable for non-active pedophiles (As in ones who have not harmed or contributed to the harm of a real child) to seek therapy (a la a therapy group usually) for resisting the urge to hurt a child, even if the only reason for them is that jail for pedos is even shittier than jail for anyone else (because other inmates also hate pedos).

In some countries these support groups exist and they encourage pedos DON'T look at ANY form of CP, even lolis or drawings, so they can lessen the urges to harm a child and act on it.

The problem with america is that in the US and many other major countries, even trying to seek help for this from a therapist, even if you have never harmed a real child, can get you mentioned to the police, put on a list, or even forced to register as a sex offender even if you're innocent.

I think it's bad to demonize every single person who happens to be born with these urges. However, acting on the urges, just by viewing studies done on people who were harmed as kids, shows it's damaging to their psyches and sometimes their future actions as adults. So I think the best course of action is trying to habilitate and provide a safe environment for them to talk about this, how they avoid being exposed to what triggers the urges, etc rather than damning every single one.

I know of a handfull of pedos who admit they are pedos and don't WANT to be, and that's kinda sucky.

I mean you ever have a fleeting fantasy then snapped out of it and went "Why the fuck did I find THAT sexy?" It's like that, only the subject is illegal.


Anyone who's already harmed a child (Either directly or indirectly through CP, and i'd include shadman's art in that) is human garbage though.

>>2953812
Which is why I argue that no one has any excuse to directly or indirectly harm a child because it's a fetish.

My fetish is BDSM and while it's legal, it's a pain in the ass to set up and by then i'm not into it anymore so I just enjoy the fantasy of it. Why can't pedos do the same and keep it in their head?

I guess you can argue drawn depictions not based on real people are acceptable considering shit like inflation or macro/micro exists and the only way to explore that for some people, especially men who are more visual sexually, is to look for artwork of it.
The problem is that these depictions can also normalize this shit and make a victim not realize they're a victim of abuse. The realization of something like that can be devastating as well.

I'm on the fence. I just don't want real kids harmed.

>>2953829
The real problem is that Shadman's basing his on REAL people so that's what's specific about it in regards to this thread

>>2955690
pedos don't feel the URGE of going on a raping spree, just like most heterosexuals don't

there's NOTHING wrong with cp, just like there's nothing inherently wrong with adult porn.

you are just making retarded overgeneralizations and implying bullshit about something you don't know anything about.

pedohysteria is basically a convenient scapegoat, just as witch-hunting, mcCarthysm, the-war-on-drugs, and the war-on-terrorism

You anime burnouts have been online for too long. I guarantee it. You need a little "normie" wake up call.

First of all - any mainstream private organization would ban this stuff. If you cant handle western values, get out and good riddance. Do I even need to mention the distinction between free speech and speech tolerated by a private web host? Again the economy has ruled in favor with the public. No one wants to give this garbage a platform.

Second of all - if the artist in question is good enough he will make a career without exploiting taboos other people wont touch. How about this artist distinguish himself with skill rather than edgy subject matter? Unless of course he cant help but draw this kind of filth. In that case he is a lost cause to begin with.

I am disappointed in you lot. You all need to learn what is in good taste. Simply to navigate this life and be at peace with your self. I guarantee, no matter was sick pleasure you derive in the moment, the grime will scum up and accrue in your soul. You will suffer for your degenerate indulgence. It is a matter of time. Nothing happens in this universe without repercussion.

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>>2954811
Like drawing is suppose to be hard.

I think if I got any style then it is probably fuck layers and presketching. Everything gets done in one go.

I like the messy feel it creates but i think it would be bad for doing commissions since people seem to prefer clean lines.

>>2955742
Best post on /ic/ right here.

>>2955751
>Like drawing is suppose to be hard.
by the looks of it, its hard for you.
>I think if I got any style then it is probably fuck layers and presketching. Everything gets done in one go.
ok

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>>2954811
I don't have any problem with Shad, I just wanted to practice drawing NSFW stuff, and this seemed fun.

>>2955769
You sound butthurt

>>2955770
>butt freckles
could u not?

>>2955773
i dont like arrogant fagboys who think they know what theyre talking about

>>2955776
I think all your anger may come from projecting then.

>>2955775
Seemed like it was one of the focus points of Shad's piece, thought I might as well do it too.

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>>2954811
Something quick

>>2953738
>it's not illegal to be a pedophile, but being one means you are only one step away from seriously hurting a child
>it's not illegal to be a gay, but being one means you are only one step away from seriously hurting a man
>it's not illegal to be a straight male, but being one means you are only one step away from seriously hurting a women
>it's not illegal to be a fucking retard, but being one means you are only one step away from seriously hurting a not fucking retard

>>2955770
blog

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>>2954776
>anon thinks he's better at art than shadman

>>2955770
10/10, loving it!
>>2955775
>>2955793
I appreciate those butt freckles.

I also need to know your blog.

>>2955003
worst shop ever

>>2956061
shad is so fucking untalented it baffles me, actually. the original is just so unappealing and gross. yikes.

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>>2955770
>frilly dress
>shading on butt is solid line

It's a good piece overall, though. A frilled line would look stupid for the record, perhaps just a gradation of value would be more appropriate, gnomesaiyan?

>>2956074
Yeah, he's shit. However, he thrives on controversy, and will jump on more or less any news story that will get him exposure.

>>2955823
>>2955923
Sorry, I don't do NSFW enough to justify a blog. Maybe in the future.
>>2956081
Ha, damn, that's an oversight on my part, my bad. I see what you're saying, thanks.

>>2955742

You are a pretentious fag all you values and taste are subjective

I'm glad all you hypocritical western values are falling

>>2955736
>pedohysteria is basically a convenient scapegoat, just as witch-hunting, mcCarthysm, the-war-on-drugs, and the war-on-terrorism

Mostly this.

The one thing that unnerves me is that pedo-calling became the go-to excuse for critizicing artists and trying to censor art. And people seem to be buying it without even thinking.

>>2955736
>there's NOTHING wrong with cp
kill yourself, unless you're talking about cartoon, those are sick but they're not real, so there is nothing wrong with it since there is no victim.

>>2955770
hnnnnnnnng fuck yes

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>>2956280
McCarthy was right, though.

>>2956302
MSM gives you the crazy idea that cp is toddler snuff homo torture, or something like that.

Actually, 99.9% cp is just cute, harmless gravure solo softcore of 10+ girls. There's absolutely nothing morally questionable about that.

>>2956340
Easy for you to say when you aren't the child being raped, and it doesn't need to be hardcore to be rape.

>>2953801
Pedophiles feel safe when surrounded by other pedophiles. It's similar to catholic priests when they rape little boys, they need to surround themselves in the same company to feel secure.

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>>2954811
just wanted to sketch, not gonna finish it, if you want to criticize so i can watch out for mistakes in the future go ahead.

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>>2956340
>Actually, 99.9% cp is just cute, harmless gravure solo softcore of 10+ girls

>>2956378
much better than shads.

>>2956381
Thanks

>>2956378
Your mistake was drawing a boy

>>2956405
the dick only makes it better, anon, but i didn't notice it looked like a dude, hips? face?

>>2956417
diff anon, but to me its totes the hip-torso ratio

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>>2953442
>japanese host

But wouldn't that mean to be "forced" to censor genitals in his pics?

>>2956423
I see, i'll keep that in mind when drawing women, thanks.

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Did that girl from Logan actually sue him? I thought they just wanted the pictures removed.

>>2956280
is because just by shouting PEDO you don't need to construct any argument whatsoever to support your bullshit agenda.

"Witch" "communist", "drug addict", and "terrorist" had been used to the same effect, but they lack the SEX IS DIRTY and THINK OF THE CHILDREN appeal to emotion components

>>2956478
They're shouting pedo because that is what he is. Why else is he drawing smut based around real children, dumbass? Get the fuck out of here.

>>2956554
>supply and demnd

>>2956569
Is anyone else bothered by supply and demand? It's destroying us.

>>2956569
I don't care if this is bait, you're retarded.

>>2956478
Half this thread is basically "Hurr durr, pedo bad"

These people can't even conceive not everything is either (0,0,0) black or (255,255,255) white.

>People giving Shad shit for being an "attention whore"

Aren't basically 99% of artist attention whores? How many artist draw and then just keep their images to themselves? Attention is the basic currency among them. Which is whatever, but it seems weird to go after specific people for it.

It's like calling one actor an attention whore.

>>2956664
He's an attention whore because he often draws very controversial things for drama and attention (good and bad) intentionally. He strives off of being edgy.

You aren't an attention whore just because you happen to post your shit online, don't be stupid.

>>2956664
calm down, anon. Yes, all artists are attention whores. Also hating on Shad is a meme, everyone knows that.

>>2956669
I'm not excited, just was asking. I'm not a /ic/ usual.

>>2956668
Shad draws what he wants and a lot of people like it. He's a fetish artist afterall. Now kys.

>>2956668
Is any artist who does non-vanilla porn edgy to you? Just curious.

>>2956668
Exactly. If he was good enough, he wouldn't have to rely on controversial topics to make a quick buck like a degenerate.

>>2956668
>everything I don't like is edgy
oh, anons of /ic/, never change.

>>2956679
Then how do you explain the artist that was really good but draw extreme fetishes or "edgy" stuff?

>>2956679
Shad haters are probably the least creative memelords out here. It's just sad watching you sperging out.

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die die die shadman !!!

>>2956436
Thats who he drew? What the hell.

>>2956684
Wrong. I'm not the one white knighting some old as loser than humble brags about his goddamn abs and art on Twitter all day. Do you think Shad is going to think you're some kind of hero, a friend for not letting him fight his own battles? You don't(do not) even know him personally, probably never even talked to him once. It's been pointed out multiple times that he LOVES this shit, are you stupid? His fans aren't worth a damn and neither are you. Why are you here -- you don't even draw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVXJmfd3cmg

>>2956572
supply and demand keeps the world turning, its fine; i guess?

>>2956573
>cant provide a counter argument
ah

>>2956696
I'm a mere artist that dislikes "shad is bad" meme. And you are a faggot, anon. A pathetic loser, outdone by Shad by his skill, body and fame. Gosh you're pathetic, venting out on an imageboard and wasting your life away. Kys.

>>2956696
It being about shad is irrelevant, but you guys are basically spam at this point and it's annoying.

It's not like dobson or buckley hate because they make jokes and it's actually funny, you guys just go
>uh he can't draw well
>shadbase
>pedophile

Over and over, year after year.

>>2956701
I'm not going anywhere, cry me a fucking river. And stop calling everything a meme just to roll with the punches. Fucking embarrassing.

>>2956664
nah, your're mixing artists with wannabe internet celebrities.

you don't even require any kind of online presence in order to make it as a professional.

>Make fun of shad for not being able to make money
>Also make fun of him for going with trends and being a sell out

Which is it

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/ic/ is seriously fucking spooked.

>>2956703
>And stop calling everything a meme
Hating on Shad is a meme, anon. Pure meme content. There's nothing you can change about it but your attitude. Loser.

>>2956702
>Over and over, year after year
The pedophile shit didn't blow up until around Nov or December of last year. I mean, yeah, people still brought it up, just not as much now.

>>2956706
/ic/ is like those hippies who protest, but get nothing done because they don't know shit.

>decides he'll feud by drawing lewds of people's relatives
He's a fucking moron.

>>2953801
I'm actually anti-shad, and pro-pedo

Besides cute lolis, the guy makes some disgusting degenerate stuff, so i don't really care if that shit gets censored.

>>2956709
>There's nothing you can change about it
And there's nothing you can change about the rabid-ass people that go out of their way to destroy his livelihood. You're going have to deal with it, or just sit here and complain all day. The choice is yours.

>>2956717
Don't let the fans know that.

>>2956718
Incredibly childish mindset.

>>2956720
>And there's ...
what? what the fuck are talking about?

>>2956717

kek. that actually sounds pretty based.

>>2956717
>I have to go start shit with Shad now so he'll draw porn of my cousin

>>2956695
Yeah. Dafne Keen.

>>2956405
>mistake

look at this faggot

>>2955770

thdark?

>>2955770
That you bbc-chan?

>>2955770
o-oh GOD!

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>>2954811
>>2956378
>>2956757
decided to go with it, i'm not good at drawing hands or feet at all...

>>2956786
Yep
>>2956792
I wish I was as good at this stuff as bbc-chan.

>>2953420
Good riddance.

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>>2956340
uhhh

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>>2956340
What the FUCK are you talking about?

Seriously, what the fuck is going on?

What is my life? What do I have to do with this stuff?

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

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>>2956340

>>2956084
so like this thread is doing?

I feel like there's more pedos here than on /tv/. How the fuck does that happen?

>>2958755
Uh no there aren't, this board is 50% women, women can't be pedophiles

>>2958768
Bullshit. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I've seen way too many for that to be true.

>>2955260
If he as more modest, less of an attention whore, and giving out personal info of himself, everyone (e.i normalfags) will usually freak out on his work.

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>>2955260
>Oh, I'm glad to know there are other loli artists on /ic/!

>>2953789
>it's okay for him to do it but not you
Fuck you

>>2953801
Usually normalfags who enjoy his work defend him.

>>2954032
>fury is pedophilia
Kill yourself reddit

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>>2954000
Gonna cry to your mommy?

>>2955152
>Oh look different opinions you're wrong than hitler!
Hate away, people, hate away

>>2955491
Go back to tumblr

>>2955770
YAAAAAAAS REAL ART OMG HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY

>>2955777
>projecting
Cute

>>2956696
Benthelooney is a great example of being a creep when it comes to his cp