why the japanese artists are better than the western artists?

Why would you even pick garbage artists like the japanese from the eastern region instead of chinese artists?

Pic unrelated?

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>>2944716
kill yourself, cancerous weeb.
"western" artists?
why are you so vague with one, and so specific with japanese?

>>2944716

why are kids allowed in here?

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>>2944716

Rogue by Steve McNiven

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>>2944735

McNiven

>>2944722
chinese artists are mostly boring rendering machines. Japanese artists are actually good at drawing.

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>>2944737

Leinil Yu

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>>2944739

>Weeb Rogue

>>2944716

inb4 Artgerm / Stan Lau

his anatomy and fundamental are classical, but the face and overall style is generic weeb shit

>>2944739
The japanese are only good for masturbation material. Their entire art market resolves around producing things to make the dick happy and keeping lonely losers from offing themselves by providing fictional bonds.

>>2944716
isn't the american one from the x-men cartoon? not really fair to compare that to concept art.

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The west is victim to an overwhelming amount of shit that has destroyed any respect for their history and traditions
Within these traditions lie the ability to create great art, art that requires respect for ones nation and themselves as a spiritual person.

Japan has avoided this through their many years of isolation and through it they developed a deep respect for themselves and their history
However it's not all sunshine and rainbows for Japan, in recent generations their countries traditions have also been butchered. You can see it in their art, it's all moe trash and it's well made for now but it will very quickly collapse and they will be worse than the west, overrun by fetishes and degeneracy.

The only way to produce great art is to understand what it means to be a member of your country and it's ancestry, understand that inner spiritualistic quality it gives and you will find inner peace. Only then can you make great art

This is all of course a load of bullshit I just made up but it's the truth goddammit

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>>2944746
Well, you're an idiot, but that's okay.

>>2944760
It's just a fact that the japanese art market operates that way. I'm happy that /ic/ is one the boards on 4chan that are not obsessed about japan so I can properly shut you faggots off without getting stoned.

It's funny that the more a board focuses on higher life goals and less on wasting your life away on retarded shit the less it's about japanese culture.

>>2944760
Jokes on you, this actually makes my dick hard.

>>2944716
you should have asked why is the artist on the right better than the one on the left, you can't judge entire nations based on two peoples artwork.

>>2944766
It's a fact in the same way that the western market is all about space marines and photoboashing. So, not a fact at all, just an ignorant, one-sided viewpoint held by morons such as yourself. The fact that someone like you then goes on about higher life goals is absolutely ridiculous in its irony. You are the personification of Dunning Kruger Syndrome.

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wtf is japan even trying?

>>2944773
Yeah, that's why the content of the biggest art sharing websites in japan is 95% about the stuff I'm talking about.

Why the biggest art festival is about selling and sharing porn.

Why their best selling literature, their comics and their anime are mostly about cute girls doing retarded shit.

Japan has some good shit and I will never blame anyone for liking the stuff they produce but you retards who glorify that place need to be put in place. You are fucking degenerates, all of you.

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yfw even the best of the best, god-tier jap mangaka are inspired by the great western names such as moebius and escher

>>2944777
Only non-artists are impressed by le epic realistic photo copy. also nice jackpot trips

>>2944782

tfw every other modern mangaka are then inspired by otomo

>>2944784
what a dumb thing to say. artists work very hard to achieve that level of understanding of anatomy and rendering in order to master something like that photocopy. it is impressive, it just can be a little overbearing or redundant to look at but that doesn't negate the skill. I was trying to make a point about the op anyway. fug u

>>2944789
there is nothing impressive about copying photos. It's one of those artists who only draw eyes and then try their best to add that stuff around them, slap a signature on it, call it a sketch and get mad likes on facebook.

You are trying to fit in.

>>2944782
good thing moebius is amongst other things inspired by traditional japanese painters like hiroshige ;-)

>>2944789
I think the point is, obviously that takes a lot of time and effort to do and you'd be an idiot to not recognize the value there is to that. However, I think most people around here are more impressed with things that incorporate multiple references and an ounce of creativity to make something that might not be as good on a technical level as a 1 to 1 recreation, but generally more appealing

>>2944803

>hiroshige
[citation needed]

Most of their animation still fucking suck compared to Western.

>>2944716
As a matter of fact, they are not, anon. You are just a tasteless faggot. No amount of study can fix this problem. NGMI.

>>2944716
>artists
you mean comic ""artists""

>western
you mean americans. they're 99% pure shit. france produces some of the best comic art in the world.

>>2944861
this. franco-belgian comics are goat

>>2944716
Is this bait?

Left is better

>>2944716
The best of them tend to put a massive amount of thought into aesthetically-appealing stylisation and work outwards from classical fundamentals, so you end up with a very attractive/appealing style married to solid fundies.

On the subject of the X-Men and Japan...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rSw4Xl5qfs

>>2944913
The music is so fucking gay. Original intro song was memorable. I wonder if the Japanese version ever had Apocalypse. His original voice actor was awesome. All the voice actors were.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfhIdDF8KHg

>>2944920
That Rogue booty.

>>2944756
Wasn't it the "west" who forced their borders open?

>>2944716
Why are you so good at making shit threads?

>>2944920

>All the voice actors were
Rogue sounds like a typical late 80's / early 90's bimbo typecast

>>2944920
>1:33
>battle starts
>jean literally just trips in the background and stays on the floor

>>2944716
THICC is always better

>>2944716
Sources pls

>>2946749
feels good knowing this slang term will die out this year.

>>2944716
I fapp to both before and will always. Roguefu

>>2944782
>moebius
>western
kys

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>>2944784
I completely agree with this, and I think that's why I respect cartoonists so much more.

>>2944777
What is the book on the left?

>>2946762
>France
>Not in the west

>>2944760
When the retard calls other retards.

>>2944789
>photocopy
>understanding of anatomy
ha

>>2944760
Japanese artists like this guy are so rare on pixiv.

>>2944773
West is mostly photobashing because it focuses on commercial stuff and usually realistic stuff.
It makes no sense not to use photobashing when you are have little time, which is almost always.

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>>2944716
most of them fall into concept art meme

>>2946906
and good artists aren't rare on the west?

>>2944777
>filename

>>2944756
Neh man, you are just a /pol/tard trying as always to shove your shitty agenda into everything

>>2944730
what is this magnificent piece called?

>>2947011
debunk me

>>2944716
Both outsourced to Korea so literally the same style. The Asians just like giving their stuff cute anime eyes. Westerners tell them to draw ugly eyes instead.

>>2944716
I love the weeb versions of the x-men and even I think the left one looks far better. Should have used some marvel 2 art for your example.

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>>2944716
Really makes you think.

>>2947269
But anon the background on the right is just a lazy photobashed turd.
(Not to mention the gross sticky saccharine atmosphere in it)

>>2947269
>quality wholesome entertainment vs. murky pedobait
As usual Americans do things bigger and better. God bless

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>>2947130
ugolino and his sons

>>2944803
>hiroshige
When did he say this?
all i've read was; he just drew, at around 12 he thought he was the best so he kept drawing to stay the best.
That's it. Oh, and he liked drawing crystals a lot as a kid.

If you're going to cherry pick your argument, at least pick the best cherries, you retard.

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How did the ancient greeks get such a good grasp of aestethics and stylization so easily? even their coins are perfect

>>2944716
Right one eyes are lopsided but it has more appeal

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>>2947011

He's wrong about them "retaining their tradition" because they've learned from outside sources like European artists since the 20th century. Not to mention that all races made "degenerate" art involving sexuality in the past, see pic related.

There's no need to make a lazy response.

>>2944756

research things and keep an open mind my homie. It's not really black-and-white out there.

>>2944784
If you can render something like that without reference, thats fucking impressive. Otherwise, its nothing to be showing off I dont think

>>2947188
The right is art for the marvel fighting games capcom made back in the day. Capcom had in house artist they didn't need to out source for art like do now.

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When europeans brought over their art to Japan, the japanese tried perspective but ultimately decided it was nothing but a fancy parlor trick and that
>EYYYAHH WHY WHEN I CAN ROOK OUTSIDE FOR PERSPECTIVE; WORLD ALREADY PERSPECTIVE BAKAGAIJIN

in my opinion, I think left is more sexier and better looking art. Right has a more interesting pose

>>2944777
>>2946963
>a fair and unbiased comparison of japanese and western art styles
>chinese book

>>2944716

But the one on the left in better in almost every way.

>>2949711
>Right has a more interesting pose

Except for the spaghetti noodle legs. And the overly thick jacket sleeve making her forward arm look too close to her tit.

And the man hands/mario gloves. Big feet too. Ugly hair. Neck, head, and arms manage to look more stiff than the other one despite the pose trying to be more dynamic. Big monkey ears wtf. Ugly pinching at inner eyebrows like Taylor Swift. Pinched and drawn down nose.

>>2950283
Post your art work.

>>2950283

I understand where you're getting at, but I didn't really comment on how the right one looked aside from her pose. I think left has a better sleek look

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>>2944716
Why don't you first post an example that proves your point?

>>2944716
They're not better, just different

>>2946906
Dude, they're the only ones I follow. There are even some who draw a lot of moe looking girls but their backgrounds and environments are so damn good.

>>2947280
That's not photobashed. Do you even know what a photobashed background looks like?

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>>2944716
It's a shame bengus is losing it

>>2947471
If that's all you know then why do doubt anything you hear about him? Must be pretty ass blasted at the notion I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯