I suck at drawing from imagination

>>2928555
It's not my fault you're retarded, anon.

Good visual memory is a talent in itself.

Doesn't mean you need it because muscle memory is a thing and if you're throwing fits about needing to work hard by drawing something many times then maybe you should take a break.

Come back when you're more open minded.

>>2928558
Instead of hitting me when i'm already down why don't you help me out. Saying i'm retarded doesn't help.

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>>2928561
>Saying i'm retarded doesn't help.

It's helps me.

>>2928563
How does it help you?
>>2928560
I do take breaks though. And my memory is still shit.

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>>2928555
>We're going to draw our waifus in any pose, scene, situation, and gesture someday.

>>2928565
I didn't say breaks would help your memory. I just meant it would help you out from realizing that you need to draw a lot because there's no other way.

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>>2928555
you are just retarded anon, just like me there's people with talent and better mental capabilities.
It's like being born in a 3rd shithole is not your fault.
But you have multiple options like doing drugs, killing yourself, or watching stuff you like on internet.
It just isn't worth to spend your time on something that somebody else will do miles better with way less effort.
Self pitying won't make you any better so the only thing you can do is give up on art.

>>2928568
Wait until you realize that you aren't all that imaginative and don't know what to draw your waifu doing.

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>>2928565
>How does it help you?

It gives me much needed schadenfreude

>>2928573
>you are just retarded anon just like me,
the comma goes here though

What's up with these threads today? Everyone's doubting themselves and art.

>>2928581
It's just conversation material. Don't you want to talk together about our struggles? What are some of your struggles?

You know what /ic/ FUCK YOU GUYS.

I'm gonna draw 6 hours a day until I can't fucking breathe and when i'm on my deathbed, even if i'm still shit I'll know that I gave it all.

Fuck you too evolution.

>>2928586
Have fun, anon. Remember to take your breaks or else you'll burn out.

>>2928581
Complaining is easier than changing

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If anyone was curious, here is my imagination stuff. It looks so bad compared to my studies

>>2928622
I like it, senpai.

>>2928555
use a reference as a starting point and keep practicing until you've built the visual library to do more completely from imagination. then repeat for what you're bad at.

it's what pros do; read keys to drawing. character design and composition skills also help.

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>>2928622
bait

>>2928622
>animu
I think I found the problem.

>>2928622
It's been like a month. You're still fighting with it? I don't know how to help you even if I wanted to.

>>2928633
How is it bait?

>>2928555
Why don't you show us some of your work? maybe that way we can help you.

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I'm in the same boat OP. Not sure if my visual memory is inferior or if I'm doing something wrong. I visualize and move around stuff in my head but still forget those objects pretty soon

>>2928637
>BOO HOO, I'M SOOOO SHIT. I'M NOT CUT OUT FOR ART, MAYBE I SHOULD GIVE UP FOREVER!!!!
>while your drawing's aren't shit tier

Either this is either you role playing as an artist you hate so that we het mad at him or you want some shitty pitty party to boost your ego.

I see through your bullshit.

>>2928644
I just feel like venting. I've been taking art seriously for 3 years. For someone who's been practicing that long my work is shit tier.

>>2928654
kill yourself

>>2928654
And what's your point? A ghost is better than you? So what? You can still draw better than your past self ever would have been able to. Ask how would your past self feel.

>>2928654
Do you know how many artists in the beg treads would give their fucking left nut to be where you're at? Some of those people grind day in and day out to draw anything even remotely passable

Fuck off faggot, you don't deserve to waste board space.

>>2928654
Vent more.

>>2928573
>It just isn't worth to spend your time on something that somebody else will do miles better with way less effort.
It is. To better yourself. Learning something new is in no way useless and you should put effort in everything you do.

Never compare yourself to others if you're going to be depressed about it, it's a recipe for disaster. I mean, I compare my art to people I aspire to, but I don't sulk about it. They worked hard to get where they're at. Never underestimate the effort someone else had to go through to get where they are. No one was born knowing how to do anything.

>>2928555
Draw and learn from your mistakes. Draw what you think might be and then compare.

>someone with good memory doesn't need to redraw the forearm muscles a million fucking times before they finally internalize.
It's not the same when you draw them million times in one day and when you draw it once every day in those million days.

Sleep helps memory. You can't say it doesn't do it for you, that's just how brain works.

How long have you been even doing this?

>>2928662
this is exactly the kind of back handed dick sucking he was baiting for. why do you let yourself get played like this?

>>2928669
I know, the best thing to do is always to no relpy. At least sage still works

>>2928662
But those guys are Beginners who have only been drawing for a few months maybe a year at best. They haven't invested the time that I did so it's not comparable. People like vetyr who have been draw much less than me are way better.

>>2928677
Vetyr can't draw anime though.

holy fuck he still wants more, this greedy emotionally stunted sack of shit

>>2928677
vetyr is an outlier and should not have been counted.

you can do it, but try waiting a decade before you give up.

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>>2928680
>Vetyr can't draw anime kek

>>2928677
I feel you, OP. I'm a really slow at progressing even when I'm putting in the hours, because my brain just doesn't absorb things well. On top of that, I have a problem fully understanding how to 'draw', as in, breaking things down and executing them.

Even my 'successful' pieces are done through intuition and not through understanding what I'm doing.

It's genuinely demotivating to the point I'm always on the brink of quitting. I'm truly scared of the idea that, barring death or injuries, there's going to be a day where it's the last time I pick up a pen.

>>2928555
I've been drawing for 12 years ( Actually for all my life) and still suck. But I still love to draw. Glad I kept it as a hobby ... ... and only a hobby.

>>2928644
but he's pretty shit, he's got that right

Why are you shilling vetyr everywhere, shes not even that good? I thought ic hated tumblrinas art

>>2928555
Not gonna make it.

>>2928800
Thank you for your contribution to a thread that already had something of a conversation in it

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>>2928817
>replying to bait

>>2928555
If you learned perspective draw everything in boxes and fill the boxes.

Fucking retards I swear.

>>2930778
/thread

BOXES LMAO is one of the few good memes to come out of /ic/.

>>2928622
doing anime is fine, if you want to do that. I recommend trying to apply what you have learned to your original figures/characters.

Try to apply anatomical rules and proportions to the drawings; rinse and repeat until it looks appealing overall.

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Man, I don't know if I'm cut out to be any kind of artist. I can only copy shit, and I never even attempt to finish anything I draw from imagination, it's like my fucking brain refuses because it doesn't like how it looks. My friend told me copying doesn't help, and I'm pissed I can't draw my favorite characters and shit without just copying straight from an image.

God damn this is so fucking frustrating, I don't want to give up but I feel like maybe it's just not right for me.

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There is an alternative to imagination: Projection.

Imagination is seeing the image in an empty space. Projection it's a process of EDITING external images. Probing and tinkering with the images to see if they work. Just consider how easy it is to see shapes on a perspective grid compared to a blank page.
https://youtu.be/EU6gSMLsCrg?t=5m52s

Many artists know that you need some sort of fuzzy imperfect shape on the paper, like staring at clouds, and then you stare at it until you can see how to modify it to make it looks like something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDPcSuLe73g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyfNYyb4Vo8

There are lines that you put down to "test" the shape, and lines that you put down to define the shape.

But most artists avoid this because they feel stupid and inferior IF they don't have the answer beforehand.

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>>2933183

And on the topic of feeling stupid, we need to talk about thinking through drawing. Putting things on paper is a psychical form of imagination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbmnx0hTPjA

If a carpenter needs to make a table, he makes drawings to figure out were to cut. Engineers, sculptors, psychics, mathematicians, architects, even damn surgeons have to draw.

Not because they are trying to make pretty images, but because those drawings are for understanding. What makes you exempt from doing those?

Sometimes you need to step out of "The" drawing and make little thinking drawings. Orthogonal views and thumbnails to help you invent stuff. A scratch pad to test your colors and shapes before you put them in "The" drawing.

None of these is pretty. They lack perspective, finesse and they don't reflect your skill, so artists bury them. Of course, if other people saw this testament of ignorance, the artist would feel ridiculed.
>"He isn't blessed by inspiration and insight? He has to figure things out? How can he call himself an artist?"
And because no one shares these, there is the belief that artists just somehow imagine all those wonderful things out of nothing.

>>2928730
She's originally from 4chan

>>2933187
Good post, I hope you read this OP.

>>2928555
>>2928622
Are you the OP in https://boards.fireden.net/ic/thread/2875693/ pretending to be another artist again? It's mentally unhealthy to hold an obsession with a mediocre artist who only draws weebshit to the point that you'd keep shitposting like this. If you are truly interested in improving then invest your time into more productive practice. Try out what's listed by >>2933183
>>2933187 and get a thicker skin faggot

>>2928633
how does that picture indicate bait, i don't think i'd be tempted to become a brown circle so a little girl could eat me. in fact i think i'd shy away from it.

>>2933187
whats the blog for these?

>>2934536
Well it looks like he baited a lot more idiots this time. As usual just sage and hide troll threads.

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>>2934536
>mediocre
better than 99% of /ic/ already

>>2935308
Jesus christ Akko settle down.