Decent alternatives to /ic/?

>>2926544
>/ic/ is getting worse and worse by the day
People have been saying this for like 10 years.

Anyways, the best alternative is to find a group of people around your level or better and who don't waste too much time on maymays, then make a discord group with them.

>>2926547
>People have been saying this for like 10 years.

And it's still true to this day

Crimson Daggers.

>>2926547
I'm too much of an autist to make friends online, all I need are some tips and answers from time to time. Yet /ic/ is failing even to do that, question threads especially are slower than ever and beginners are full force shitposting at this point

>>2926585

Go to atelier/drawing school where high-schoolers study to get into art school or qrchitecture, meet people, get critique, get answers, actually draw & paint, pay small monthly fee that is affordable even to warehouse worker.

>>2926544
Honestly I've had great luck with facebook groups, not talking about level up. Just don't be a cunt. Joinin hangouts is the best way to make art buds as long as you're not total autismo 4channer

>>2926597
>as long as you're not total autismo 4channer
there goes that plan

>>2926597
>>2926592
I actually go to an atelier once a week, too bad it's mainly focused on fine art and copying scultpures, while it's useful I need people who are leaning towards digital and drawing from fantasy.

>>2926544
Maybe we can make this place a better place :3 ...

>>2926640
there are no mods here

>>2926624
Honestly I don't even know why you need a community to help teach you things, when there is SOOOO much info online now. You can easily get some gumroads or online courses or books that aren't even that expensive and learn a shit load. You can also find lots of good free content (or torrent if you are okay with it), and hi res images of digital artists and master paintings to reverse engineer. There's no reason you can't teach yourself at home things up to a pro level. Like half the industry is self taught.

There's not even that much in digital that is really specific to it, like sure there's a couple small things like clipping masks which are handy, but if you are sticking with 2d the same ideas apply to it as in traditional painting, and you can get by without needing to know a lot of technical jargon.

>>2926640
>:3

>>2926658
jesus christ get in the car

>>2926640
hahahahahahahahaha

>>2926657
While you are surely right, there is so much free content online that you can find anything you need and more.
The real problem is choosing what to do, how much to do it, in which order etc.
Sometimes maybe some small advice is helpful

>but if you are sticking with 2d the same ideas apply to it as in traditional painting, and you can get by without needing to know a lot of technical jargon.
not knowing where to start I'm following Aguri's one year guide. And it's so much different from the stuff from the Atelier, in the latter all we do is copying scultpures until we get good enough to start drawing from life, the former on the other hand really insists on construction and perspective. I quite hate this technical stuff and I'd prefer to just draw but anyway, I don't have guidelines

>>2926657
I guess some people just want to create a circle of camaradery where they feel like there's a general desire for self improvement and mutual help (actual constructive criticism), something that is hard to accomplish when half of the threads are about people spreading memes and worsening the board. I should know...

>>2926700
Well yes construction and perspective though are not unique to digital.

As for what to learn and in what order, well it depends on what your goals are and your personality. I think too many people worry too much about doing things the wrong way, when the reality is there are many roads that can all lead to the same place. As long as you are focused on learning in a logical way and are consistently putting in work and thought, you will improve.

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>>2926544
You can try building your own community through Reddit r/artbuddy.
You make a post there by filling in the form. In the form you can state your goals, artwork and interestes.
The place seems dead but there are plenty of people lurking and looking for artbuddies.
I have 9 artbuddies who I share artwork, artbooks and videos with. We give eachother critique and valuable recourses.

>>2926624
> drawing from fantasy
drawing from what?

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>>2926713
Is there something like that but for furry or pony artwork, and I'm not talking about cringe tier either but something like pic and up related kind of tier.

>>2926544
>>2926568
/ic/ had a rough life :(

>>2926724
Aren't communities like furfinity what you mean? (I only heard from it but never been there)
You could still post in artbuddy maybe there are furries lurking.

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I really want to make a chan of my own but that won't help the shit here.

>>2926640
I tried but I give up, I'm depressed af and all the shit I get here for trying my best is making it worse.

>>2926736
I think that the -chan is the actual problem.
"le 4chan culture XD" really makes hard to actually discuss serious stuff, let's not talk about the fact that /pol/tards are in every board pushing their agenda.

Also anonimity doesn't really give benefits in this case, really you don't fucking know who is actually giving advice to you and majority of the time it's probably a worse shitter than you parroting the same Loomis meme

I come here to laugh but I feel kinda bad for the younger artists, conceptart.org was really inspirational back in the day, real drive and improvement, pro's were sharing new tech all the time.

This place is full of miserable autists obsessed with how much shitty porn artists are getting paid. Now that there is money to be made the more experienced artists have begun to lock knowledge behind paywalls. Someone needs to make a serious art community, until then I would recommend young artists just go to a decent art school.

>>2926753
>Now that there is money to be made the more experienced artists have begun to lock knowledge behind paywalls. Someone needs to make a serious art community, until then I would recommend young artists just go to a decent art school.
>now that the knowledge costs $15 on gumroad and is more in depth and educational than ever I recommend spending $100k on art school

>>2926579
Please don't give the name of a critique site that is near-flawless in etiquette, politeness and quality of direction-giving to /ic/; some of the people here could ruin it, probably including me.

>>2926749
What about an old style forum but with image and webm support??

>>2926759
You don't go to art school for sweet tutorial vids, you go to be surrounded by positive, like minded individuals and a decent guiding force in the form of a teacher. I used pro artists keeping secrets to themselves as a small symptom of there being no community mixed with a new monetary incentive and an increase in competition. In the conceptart.org days the pros were learning together.

What you need to go pro has been on the internet for almost 2 decades, this thread is about art communities, if you're the sort of person who needs support then this place will fail you and no worthwhile replacement currently exists.

I'm not a burger, we don't pay 100k for art school here.

Deviantart

>>2926544
Go on twitch and watch art streamers, many of them have discord groups, which have lots of artists of different skill levels so you wont have a problem to fit in even if you're a total beginner. i honestly feel like discord is the best platform for artists to communicate nowadays. one streamer that has a discord group is SamPetersonArt,

if you're already kinda good tho it might be hard to find a group with people at higher skill level, but im sure those exist as well

>>2926735
>>2926724
Seconding furaffinity. Sure there is cringe there, but also artists on the level of your pic.
It's actualy a pretty comfy place.

>>2926544

You only get what you're looking for on /ic/. If you're only seeing shitposts and /pol/, then it's because you were looking for shitposters and /pol/ in the first place.

It's easy to scapegoat a community for your shortcoming, but you have to take an incentive to reform yourself.

when's new openings for unmotivated losers

>>2926640
Best answer.
For every "not gonna make it" or "famous artist shaming" thread,let's make two good threads...
Let all the unmotivated losers & whiners behind! (they will end up following the movement themselves)

It's not some kind of black magic force that we're all complaining about, we're doing it to us OURSELVES...

>>2926888
Surprisingly I've never even considered that furaffinity could hold art improvent comunities like the ones I was seeking for I guess in my mind I just considered it a more specialized deviantart, will follow your advice then :)

>>2926657
You need a community to receive feedback on your work and point out anything that needs attention.

>>2927274
What if you can do that yourself?

>>2927750
How would you know if you can?

>>2926544
Teal's secret lair.

>>2926640
>>2927008
I'm willing to do this good thread for each bad thread idea if you guys are. I don't think one person could make a difference, but a few could.

I also try to answer one question for every question I ask and give one critique for one critique. It's just like a drop in the ocean of waste so far.