Stop drawing Anime.

Post your work

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>>2914013
but but but...I like doing it

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>mfw trying to draw anime after getting into it recently
>mfw it's hard as fuck despite practicing fundamentals for years

/ic/ was wrong again

i can't

>>2914049

>recently
>it's hard as fuck

You don't fucking say, anon.

You get good at shit you practice. If you apply your fundamentals that'll get you 70% of the way there, the stylization also needs practice.

If you've been practicing fundies for years you'll be well aware of their utility.

>>2914013
stop drawing abstract art

I wish I can desu :V

>>2914013
but i want to draw cute anime girls

that's the only reason i want to draw

>>2914013
No.

>>2914013
>only draw semi realistic or cartoon style shit before /ic/
>hadn't drawn anime since I was like 8 years old
>come to /ic/
>see all the dope anime art
>now all I draw is shitty anime and cutesy stuff
Fuck you guys, you tainted me with the anime curse. I always get looks when I draw anime in public now whereas no one gave a shit when I drew cartoony or realistic stuff

>>2914226
>not drawing semi-realistic weebshit like everybody on patreon does
Dis guy

>>2914226
>I always get looks when I draw anime in public now
draw futa+furri porn to get full atention

>>2914013
Dude, you have no idea.

I want to draw hentai porn but I've come to the conclusion that I absolutely suck at it because manga is so simple.

It's flat surfaces with thin lines 99% of the time. Legs and arms are literally tubes or long ellipses. The lineart is crap but the cartoon colors become deceiving.

I sketch relying too much on linework, cross hatching, weights, etc. basically everything that I find "easy" to do artistically goes against the manga style so in a way it's the universe telling me I should stop drawing anime and go draw caricatures or something more western.

But I won't.

Because I'm a weeb.

So fuck you.

>>2914378
You sound like someone who doesn't understand how to properly stylize. Arms and legs aren't just tubes and cylinders, all good manga artists very their shapes subtly to imply anatomy. And line work is also supremely important, the only time they use flat even lines is if they're gonna have to animate it later, they use plenty of line variation and hatching of its jus a singular illustration.

Post work so we can see where you're at.

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>>2914378
Anime is pretty clean looking, but it doesn't has to start clean looking. A lot of artists start with thicc markers and crosshatching. A clean illustration requires 3-4 lineart processes.

Look at this artist. He starts from color and big shapes and worries about the lineart at the end
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO0L0803wpQ

I'm the same. Digital painting is so fast that I usually start with big brushes, and do the clean lineart last.

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>>2914408
This guys uses thick pens and shades to find the form a does the clean line art later.

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>>2914390
This.
Anime is way more grounded in real anatomy than western cartoons are. But if you learned to draw in a western style first, you will find anime/manga harder. A lot manga artists say in interviews that they learned to draw by straight up copying from their favorite manga artists. That's why the style homogeneous and consistent. One artist said when he learned it was like 70% copying manga pages, 30% grinding fundamentals. Of course that's not true for everyone, but the ones that idid;nt take this sort of path don't draw in the typical style. Usually is much closer to simplified realism, and some of them d a lot of cross hatching and shading too.
You still have to have a strong grip on perspective to draw any sort of manga tho. Most of the comic artist who completely lack that are here in america writing shitty comedy comics or gay shit.

>>2914408
Why are Jap artist sketches always so messy?

When I was starting out, my teacher always stressed how important it was to sketch using clean lines

It's not that it's bad, just different.

>>2914408
oh god
my dick

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>>2914431
I guess it depends on how easy you can visualize.
Most sketch loose because they are not sure of what to put down. This guy right here goes for the clean lineart from the get go, but he is crazy.

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>>2914422
if i copy his work, will i steal inoue takehiko's powers?

>>2914422
>than western cartoons are
Pretty shallow view of cartoons there, anon. See: most cartoons pre-2005.

>>2914431
>>2914439
I kind of like how messy sketches look.

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>>2914422
>uses Vagabond as an example, something that's more realistic and less stylized than the well majority of manga
>compares manga, a comic form, to cherrypicked cartoons
>completely dismisses the western comic book industry, which more often than not is grounded into realism

What the fuck, do you even pay attention to the western scene or are you just a huge weeaboo?

>>2914469
Nobody reads comic books you fucking faggot.

>>2914470
You don't need to read comic books to know the industry exists, idiot.

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>>2914448
It hasn't been 2005 in over 12 years anon. 2D animation is basically dead in the west, Disney doesn't even do it anymore.
I wasn't even talking about animation tho, I was talking about comics/ manga. And I was specify referring to western webcomics. Japs pump out 20-30 pages a week, some webcomic artists can barely maintain doing 1. And the art is much more simple and lazy, sometimes it's glorified fucking stick figures.

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>>2914475
>mfw those are four different series

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>>2914475
>comparing manga to webcomics, which tends to be hobbyists who don't do it full-time and is a much smaller and insignificant thing
That's just as stupid, anon. Learn how to make equivalent comparisons.

>>2914469
I mentioned some artists DON'T just copy and study a lot of realism and use heavy hatching, obviously Inoue takehiko was an example of that point, which was mentioned in the post I replied to. And again, was referring to webcomics, not cartoons.
No one reads capeshit anymore since they have been infested with social cancer, but they seem to have taken the hint tho and seem to be changing back.

>>2914475
This picture gets thrown a lot, but it ignores that all those shows have really nice animation.

>>2914486
You are missing the point. You're making a retarded comparison and being too much of a fucking weeaboo to realize how dumb you are. The fact that you're moving goalposts proves it.

Why are you even comparing crappy, amateur webcomics to fucking Vagabond and a multi-billion dollar industry in general?

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>>2914408
kek

>>2914469
A lot of western comic art lacks appeal imo. Like the artist clearly has a decent handle on the fundamentals and they'll know what their doing but the end product ends up looking really generic and it doesn't really pop. Not saying manga is any better or worse, just an observation. I think it's partly cause there isn't that much room for unique artwork, at least in the big 2. The majority of artwork looks very similar and sometimes you can't even tell the artists apart cause everything looks so much alike. Maybe they do it to enforce a sense of cohesion in their universes? It all ends up looking real rigid to me. Although there are some artists who do awesome work like Greg capullo, Francis manapaul and jai lee but I feel like they are the exceptions.

>>2914491
No, you're missing the point. I was responding to to a thred that started with the "don't draw anime" meme. Which normally is accompanied by, anime is easy and anyone can do it, and you don't have to have a firm grasp of fundamentals , especially anatomy and perspective. This is completely untrue, and it's actually more true of some popular styles found in the west. That was the point.
But you and the other westaboos felt the need to defend the honor of cheap western flash animation.

>>2914517
Sou you are right because you posted your imbecilic comparison designed to portray both manga and western comics as something they are not in response to your own projected sentiment?

Stop posting.

>>2914517
You're still missing the point and avoiding the question, good going. Again, why are you comparing crappy, amateur webcomics to fucking Vagabond and a multi-billion dollar industry?

I'm not even a "westaboo", I consume a lot of Japanese media and even prefer it. I'm just not stupid to ever make such a retarded comparison to prove a basic point.

>>2914527
Because that's not what I was doing. Vagabond was an example of an artists who had a firm grasp on semi realism and used hatching techniques. That's why I posted the photo, it was an example, not a comparison.

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>>2914542
>why are you comparing crappy, amateur webcomics to a multi-billion dollar industry?
Quit dodging.
How are amateur webcomics an indicative of the western style, when even the generic comic book style is much more common and popular? In your tiny brain, how does this make sense?
>>2914514
That goes for art, music, etc in general. There's a lot of good technically-skilled people, but not everyone has a memorable style. Sometimes, people don't even want a unique style, they just want to be gud.

Pic completely unrelated, of course. I fucking love Kaneko, god damn.

>>2914542
Except literally no one thinks of vagabond when he says manga/anime style, you fucking moron.

Nobody ever thinks every single manga lacks fundamentals and presenting vagabond as an argument of how you totally need fundamentals to draw manga makes you look like a compensating insecure retard.

You know exactly what the OP was directed at when it said anime, and it sure as fuck wasn't fucking shamo/baki/sunabouzu or what have you, you fucking field nigger.

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Can any of you draw better than this?

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>>2914564
>>2914557
Whatever.
No matter how many times I explain it, you continue to misunderstand or misrepresent my point. Again, the comparion being made was nver to imply Vagabond vs all western art and comics. vagabond was never a comapison, it was an example of a differnt apporach to manga, where the artist did'nt learn the common style by coping tons of other artists, and instead had a grasp on realism. But I said even the ones who DON'T do that, and draw in the more typical style, still have a firm grasp on fundamentals. Good anime/ manga style is not easy, it's not something just anyone could do, you still have to study the fundamentals, as well as study the hell out of other artists to get a firm grasp on the style. The common memes often thrown at the anime / manga style, are usually only try of certain styles practiced in the west, like western cartoons and webcomics, which are inspired by western cartoons. That doesn't mean every style of fucking art in the west is this way. But shit fundamentals and "Muh style" are much more common in western produced works.

>>2914495
Pepe feet.

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>>2914878
Shut the fuck up weeb, I already understood what they were saying, but you are so fucking up your ass you keep on the same bullshit

>yea, I put a vagabond pic but I mean every anime except vagabond!!
>But anime is still the most skillful style to exist tho

Go back to shitpost about shit generic copy-pasted shows or idolcrap you weebnigger

Also fucking bait thread, stop bumping this shit

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but anon

I just drew a aminay

>>2914616
what One lacks, he makes up through storytelling and dialogue

>>2914958
Her head is way too small for her body

>>2914961

I know right

you know how like you get one proportion off and you can't just place it where, but it makes the rest of the picture go warpsville

crazy, man. like you wanna make the picture you wanna make but the picture wanna be what the picture wanna make

it's like a 6-year old suddenly got a 25 year old body from the neck-down and is confused at her own ass

why is there a van outside

>>2914906
Not sure what you're so mad about, the guy is completely right. Anime and manga in general tend to put much more emphasis on human figures that are grounded in reality than western cartoons and comics, who tend to be much more stylized.

In anime, if you take away the superficial facial features of the face and looked at just the silhouette, it would be pretty much the exact same as any mannequin / gesture you'd draw for a realistic figure. Meanwhile in many western cartoons, the silhouette is often not even recognizable as human because they focus so much on simple, geometric shapes. Not saying western cartoons who do that are inherently inferior to anime or anything, but it is kinda funny that dunning kruger sufferers always single out anime as not being realistic enough when in reality, it focuses far more on realism and believability than the western animation industry.

>>2914971
Chill anon, you can always redraw it.

>>2914475

>those repeating titles
>uh oh, I'll put "Ren & Stimpy" again, that'll show them!

Amazing.

>>2914408
Who's the artist from that webm?

>>2914976
He's mad nobody gives a flying fuck about capeshit.

>>2914985
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=524533

>>2914495
>do you want to know how I can tell the artist has flatfoot?

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>haven't seen anime in years
>somehow keep drawing in "anime" style
How is this possible?

>>2914878
That right lower limb is fucked up yo

>>2915329

Terminal weeaboo, probably ate 60% of your brain by now and it will only get worse in time. In 10 years you'll be drawing Sanic and microwaving old used pampers you put in the freezer.

>>2915529
this guy draws the worst miku. anorexicia is the worst

>>2914557
How to do you feel about his art being eradicated by the SJ remake?

>>2914960
also he really tries his hardest drawing shit that is clearly out of his league but pushes through

>>2914490
Smooth animation doesn't mean its nice animation.

>>2914431
Sketches are a way to generate ideas. They don't even have to look presentable. Don't listen to anyone who tells you otherwise.

>>2914431
they are messy because they are capturing form and movement
it feels alive, to me at least, unlike static lines

>>2915615
ONE is going to reach a Van Gogh level of drawing one day. I believe in him.

>Suck dick at loomis construction
>My anime drawings only need 2 layers before i can do a full scale with zero problems

Explain this

How the fuck do you even draw anime after drawing roman busts and still life for so long???

>>2915704
Read Kakukaku Shikajika.

>>2915691
>>2914905

Been drawing anime and loving this thread

>>2914958
>that horrible face

>>2914443
That's what I'm trying to do with another artist
Let's hope it works out

>>2915705
She was absolute horseshit at drawing from imagination, is that what you want to say?

>>2914013
ok