just fuck my shit up senpai

>>2887808
Is this what you call shilling

>>2887808
>draw pandering anime shit
>still less than $500 in your patreon
lmao

What seems to be the problem here, officer?

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>>2887808
>Tfw you're making a shitton of on patreon while pretending to be a 17 year old girl drawing porn
>This dickhead might been doing the same

>>2887828
S-shitton of what, senpai?

>>2887808
>Patreon to help me pay for schooling, food and art equipment
>$153 per month

You can make that in 2 days at any minimum wage job.

>>2887835
Min wage jobs drain away your life unlike drawing for fun and just happening to also get paid for it. There's a difference.

>>2887838
Well she made the patreon to pay for her stuff, not for fun. You can just get a part time job if it's so draining and make 6x the amount from patreon

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I am going to sage this into fucking OBLIVION

S

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what's wrong with $150 a month for something you enjoy doing?

>>2887886
>I-it's not my suffering minimum wage job! Stop having fun! You have to be like everyone else! Reeee!

E

>>2887889
that's not what i said. i don't get why people here have some disgraced millionaire attitude when there's hardly any people here making a dime off their work.

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>confused and sexually repressed girl coming out of the closet
>expresses her sexuality by drawing a busty thick vampire animu grill
>gets attention from sexual deviants
>takes advantage from the attention and begins capitalizing
>/ic/ is assmad
>buttblasting ensues

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>>2888177
this fucking post lmao

>>2888177
>confused and sexually repressed girl coming out of the closet
Like all of us, right?

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>>2888275

Not me, I am a real man. I love lifting, drifting. fucking and bucking. Woaah!

>>2887808
Wait, THIS is what that autist in the other thread is being mad about? Someone who makes 153 bucks on patreon per month? Holy shit, man, whoever you are, get your shit together. It's one thing to be a jealous cunt towards someone like Kron or Sakimichan who make 6 figures a year with their art, but this is just pathetic.

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>>2888423
you sound like a real faggot

>>2888131
this desu

>>2887874
Obviously she'd say she needs the money to pay for shit, otherwise why would anyone give her money to begin with? She's 16 years old, she doesn't have to pay bills. You'd have to be an utter moron to waste your youth working at McDonalds instead of pursuing your hobby and making a bit of cash on the side while simultaneously investing in your potential future career as an artist by building an online presence early on.

That's exactly what Sakimichan did and look where she is now. I bet she could have made 6x more money working part time jobs than what she did doing commissions on DA back in ~2007.

>>2887808
>who

>>2887813
>Getting ANY money for that trash skill level

>>2888707
I sometimes wonder if I put myself up for commissions if I'll even get one...

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>>2888443

Hey Anon, I just wanted you to know that I wish you good luck in your goals. We are all men, we are all in this together, we gotta take care of each other.

Never give up, we are all gonna make it.

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Why does /ic/ get so salty and jealous? Maybe if you guys sat down, practiced enough to get decent and make a profile of yourselves, you'd be making it; but instead, you people insist on shitting on a random 16-year-old on the internet. Sad!

>>2888897

So true, friend. Why hate, when we could be improving? I am off to grind

>>2888897
I could have been this good and successful at 16! Me! But no, other people had to ruin it for me! No anon! Being an artist is sure to fail! There's no way you can do it! Then you go "yeah maybe you're right, what do I know after all?" Fast forward a few years, you're a slump who can't do shit and still undecided on what you want to do in life. You go and decide to browse some good art and go "wow wish I could do that but there was no way at such a young ag-" Then you see how young the artist is over and over and over again. The regret hits you harder than you can even feel that you feel it within the next week instead of in the moment. That could have been ME! But no, I had to listen to other people. What a mistake! Always listen to yourself! They'll tell you that it's a waste of time! But those very same people who were busy "wasting their time and having fun" are the ones that are good and successful. What a load of bullshit this world is. Don't even know why I keep living on.

>>2888909

I can guarantee you that those feelings are never going to go away if you don't get started and keep dwelling on them. You can go back in time, Anon. You can put in the work now so that 5 years from now, you'll have notice to regret about.

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>>2888440
I think i know someone who might fit that description

>>2889240
Wasn't expecting to see my patreon header while scrolling /ic/.
I'm not familiar with Groggy, but have no issue with them making whatever amount of money they make. Them or any other artist.
My patreon's sad state of affair is my own fault, I don't take it on others, nor would I.

>>2889247
>thdark is actually an active poster
Interesting

>>2889247
that's quite an instantaneous reply
you stalk this thread a lot dude?

>>2889240
>>2889247
>And I'm trying to make a carreer out of this whole art thing
First, change that bio. That doesn't sound passionnate at all. Sounds desperate even.

>>2889247
Why did you decide to launch your patreon at a time where your output of work is so low? I bet 90% of your followers don't even know of it. Hell, you didn't even post a link to it on your DA as far as I can see. I really hate seeing someone with your skill fail so miserably at monetizing it.

>>2889250
Active reader, perhaps, but I don't post very often. Usually only if I have some art to post.
>>2889258
Haven't opened this thread before, but saw my patreon while scrolling and kind of felt I had to reply.
>>2889260
Sure, will do.
>>2889263
It was at the urging of a friend, initially. Used the "something is better than nothing" logic which I couldn't argue against, but to be honest I've considered closing it. I struggle with self-advertisement and monetizing myself, which is why my patreon is in the state it is.

>>2889268
I think you better just close it, delete all traces of you ever posting it and try again much later in the future.

>>2888909
screen shot

just because you put so well, into word, my situation

my family made me a shy, skillless neet. the internet woke me up and thought me how to have goals and bravely work for them

>>2889268
You already have a decent following on both Tumblr and DA, in fact you have more watchers than the chick in the OP. So this has little to do with self-advertizement and all to do with the fact that you simply rarely upload new work. Obviously no one considers pledging money to an artist who they perceive to be inactive.

>>2888909
This sums up most if /ic/ in a nutshell, especially me. My family was absolute shit-tier in terms of supporting me to do things I wanted as a kid; they'd belittle everything I did because it wasn't college relevant, then depression fucked me out of college, too, and now they just shit on me half the day.

I used to like drawing, but now I can't even touch paper without wanting to kill myself out of regret. I'll never be gud.

>>2888897
Oh I guess I can't criticize shitty movies since I'm not a director either!

>>2888711
If you pander, you will, matter how good or bad you are

>>2889323
Movies are made for mass consumption so that's different.

>>2889547
Is this true? I don't want to waste my time pandering if it gets me little gain.

>>2888440
where at?

>>2889548
>implying fandom pandering isn't about mass consumption

>>2889818
some jelly cunt saw her patreon and simple art style and decided to witch hunt her here

>>2890693
that's sad.

spend more time on your art and maybe you would make it.

>>2889548
The fuck is this comment? Movies, like animation in general is ART. Are you for fuck sake real?

My fucking god the level of jealousy and bitterness in this thread is unbelievable

>>2887880

try it fagot

>>2889240
>puts up a patreon
>Absolutely no promoting or advertising for it what-so-ever
>Literally only posts to his patreon page
>twice a year

>>2887808
oh god muh diiiicccckkkk!!!!

>could live comfortably with a small patreon like OP's
>I'm too retarded to gather a fanbase
You already made it OP

>>2892771
How the fuck can you like off 150 a month? That'll cover your food if you cook yourself and don't eat out, and then you are still left with literally every other expense. Rent alone will cost way way more than that.

>>2892778
3rd world communist shithole

>>2892771
You wouldn't, after Patreon getting their cut and taxes, you would be lucky to get half of that money.

>>2892795
You also get to write off things for your business though. It evens out doesn't it?

hex maniac is my waifu

>>2892831
and here we fucking go.

>>2887835
Yeah, with two 8 hour shifts you could, but what a lot of people don't seem to realize is that yhe time investment of most patreon accpunts is 2-4 hours a month(depending one the rewards you set). Even relatively small patreons can pay a better hourly wage than the vast majority of other jobs that would be available to the artist.

Seriously, $153 for 3 hours of work is amazing, and enables the artist to do other work as well.

>>2894819
Anyone know how quick the rates go up for patreon?

>>2894821
Totally case by case, depending on how good of an artist you are and how well you self-promote. Also luck plays an unfortunately large role.

>>2894819
>Yeah, with two 8 hour shifts you could, but what a lot of people don't seem to realize is that yhe time investment of most patreon accpunts is 2-4 hours a month

lmao

groggy is 15 years old
>she won't draw porn

>>2889247
Sell your soul and pander to gamers and furries if you want to make some real money man.

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discount gashi gashi

>>2897558
THANK YOU
I knew i've seen stuff like her shit before.
Gashi Gashi is the shit, and actually does porn.

>>2897558
>No heart mouth
Already a superior version.

>>2888889
TY I am going to paint this sometime soon. sage because fuck this thread though.

>>2897795
Good luck.

>>2897585
he doesn't do porn you fucko

>>2887808
Why is this bitch suddenly so popular...?
I never heard of her until this week and recently got like 20,000 followers
And all of this only at just 16 fucking years old god damn i fucking hate this world

>>2899875
Paid shills
Even OP is one

>>2887813
>draws shit
>gets $0 per month
u jelly r'nt u

>>2899984
Damn >>2887813, you just got told.

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>>2899582
he does near porn.
more lewd than Groggy

>>2900048
>he does near porn.
>posts comedic nudity

Not judging, but do you fap to owlturd?

>a bunch of 20 year old men jealous of a young girl for making the equivalent of a day's work at any normal job off of her art over a month's time

This is beyond pathetic and embarrassing even for this board. Get a fucking job losers.

>>2887880
That's not how it works you fucking retard.

>>2900077
That's $15/hr. Hardly a normal job.

>>2887808
>check her deviantart account
>less than 3 months old account
>already has 10k pageviews and lots of followers
>my account is 4 years old
>can't even break the 2k pageviews and only 7 followers

Don't even get me started on the followers on tumblr. Just fuck my shit up. What's her secret, how did she became so popular?

>>2887828
Yeah I will probably do the same. I'll make an alt account where I draw porn while pretending I'm one of those "nerdy" gurls