/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

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just trying to practice the uhhh


Circles.

>>2877701
I hope you're drawing with your shoulder. I believe it is Peter Han that said nobody can reliably draw a "good" circle in one go. There is no shame in going over the circle twice (or at the most three times but no more than that).

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>>2877719
Yes I'm using my shoulder. Wrist makes it too crowded.

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and now I turned into dootles

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>>2877752
>doing the bean wrong
You need some proko

>>2877761
damn those are sexy

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>>2877761
Sorry, I was copying the anatomy book.

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>>2877761
How is this bean

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>>2877778

>>2877701
>>2877728
>>2877752
>>2877778
>>2877790
Learn to resize

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How is this guys

>>2877797
Resize what? Drawings? Why do ya have to be so vague.

>>2877811
you didn't even read the OP did you

it's in caps for a reason so people like you wouldn't miss it but >who cares bro just get a bigger monitor XD

>>2877832
Quit being passive aggressive and let me focus.

>>2877843
i dont? understand whatsw happening

if you want to focus then stop replying to me and draw rofl

>>2877701
i like the ant, its a nice touch

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Is it OK to copy drawings for study or should I only copy real references?

>>2877907

Calling it "copying" is a quick way to get /ic/ to shit on you, it has connotations of mindlessness.

Studying drawings is fine, but try to emphasize studying masters (rather than just any drawings you like, it's easy to pick up bad habits from shit artists). Try to avoid heavily stylized works to start. One you've got your fundamentals down and you know what you're doing you can start studying for style.
Generally drawing from life/photo is preferable for understanding a subject, but studying from artists is useful for learning about composition, colour, etc.

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Day 1 of learning how to draw -- please tell me I suck and how to fix it :)

>>2877930
Forgot to add, this is just me trying to get used to holding the pencil correctly and drawing heads with Loomis's technique

>>2877930
I suck.

You need to draw bigger. Also need to draw cleaner. I know it's hard to draw a circle, but try not to go over your lines more than three times. Also make sure to read more of Loomis, so you actually understand how heads work. Also look at pictures of heads and maybe even your own mirror. Drawing isn't just about drawing, it's about understanding the world around you. You have to think, about what you see, not the three-dimensional symbol that you think you see. Also tell me, why do you draw?

>>2877933
>Also tell me, why do you draw?

Because art is free, and I am greedy. Thanks for the advice, today I didn't *really* dig into Loomis, I was trying to get a feel for my pencil and heads in general -- should I start with Fun With a Pencil or should I just jump into his book on heads and hands?

>>2877937
You should really just read both. No one really sticks to a book all the way through, usually you'll jump. I did, a lot, eventually you come back to Loomis anyways and realize just how great his stuff is. Fun With a Pencil teaches how to draw from imagination and as well perspective. I think there's other stuff too, but it's something that would benefit you. Heads and Hands is possibly advanced for a beginner who knows nothing and hasn't drawn a lot, like at least a month because it requires a great deal of accuracy and just overall knowing how to look at the world.

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Blackwings are pretty dope. But not as cool as tombow homographs

>>2877065
This is amazing btw. Nice job of catching the reflectiveness of the helmet. How long did this take you to draw?

>>2877940
I've heard a lot of great things about Loomis -- I'll definitely do some serious studying tomorrow. Which other authors do you think would be helpful for a beginner? I have Nicolaides and Holmes. Also, how long would you say it takes to get 'decent' at drawing for the average person? I'm not asking because I want to get good quick, I just want to know so I can make sure I'm using the book properly.

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first thing i've ever finished, excuse the eyes, they're horrendous

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i fucked up badly with the hair

>>2877951
Beginners tend to ask this question, it's no problem really. Usually if you are consistent, you'll be decent in a year. Most beginners give up or disappear after a month though, so data might a tad skewed. Truthful answer is that beginners are the only people who worry about time, it's not really something you worry about once you get into drawing. From then on, it's just self improvement and that can take any amount of time.

>>2877962
Thanks a lot anon, you've been a real help <3

>>2877961
You fucked up most everything but the stylistic details

>>2877511
>ah I don't what answer I was expecting. I know you're right but I just get so stuck, I have no idea how to push these more

It's more like just following through with your drawing. What is the scene you're trying to set up? It looks like a bath. Is it indoor or outdoor? How dark or bright is it? Where is the main light source? In front? Behind?

All of these will help you to figure out what more your drawing needs. Right now, I'm thinking it could use a bit more light, but it's not really clear where the light is coming from. It looks like she could be in a pond in a forest. If you want a dramatic scene you could set it so the light is coming from behind her through the trees. If you want it more serene it could be coming from above and in front of her. Then you'll be able to add more light and dark to her to make her look more real. Even if you don't complete the scene, you can still just add more tones to her face. Right now it's just very very grey. You already designed the character, but imo, you're skipping the fun part which is setting up the scene.

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abs -_-

>>2877973
at least something it's fine hah

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>>2877693
i'm starting to hate newsprint + charcoal

>>2878009

forehead is too large but that's not at all a bad study

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>>2877511
I got bored and added to your elf lady. Sorry if I screwed it. lol

>>2878024
I'm jealous, yes.

Now can you go?

>>2878024
cute :33

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>>2878009
Are you just using compressed charcoal?
I found vine charcoal to be nicer to work with, at least for preliminary sketches.

>tfw want to do a fully finished piece but your line work is too shit to color
JUST

>>2878034
yeah i used compressed + conte for that one. i've heard good stuff about vine, it's supposed to be softer right? i kinda a medium that i can manipulate even after i put it down on paper

>>2877764
What book is this, anon?

>>2877843
reported

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>>2878086
There's a DL link in the art book thread

>>2877961
The shading and lighting is good, but there's still room to improve with the rest of it. Not saying it's the worst Jojo thing I've seen by any means, in fact it's pretty decent, but there are a few things you can get better at with time.
Keep it up.

>>2877961
you've emulated the style really well. the rest is shit though.

does anyone from /ic/ ever go insane and start killing people?

>>2878114
There was an artbro around here a while back named Adolf that ended up killing a few people (allegedly).

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>>2877695
First week drawing, need a lot of practice!

>>2878133
nice, read the sticky!

>>2878133
first week shouldnt contain portraits
its nothing but fundies for the first month

>>2878135
>someone who doesn't even read the books is talking about fundies
Back to the fundies with you

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Another day, another figure.

The reference has her chest sticking out a bit. I wasn't really able to show that though.

Feedback is appreciated.

>>2878137
what

>>2878135
yeah I've been working through DoTRSotB and figured it'd be worth giving this portrait a shot to see if I've made any progress. Back to 'fundies' now!

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>>2878140
Here's the reference

>>2878140
arm proportions
legs a bit too

>>2878146
>>2878145
having seen the reference, her arms silhouette is at that place on the thigh because she has pushed her shoulders back and her body forward. which is difficult to draw which is why she hasnt on yours.

>>2878146
Yep, legs too short.

>>2878148
Not sure what you mean by the silhouette. Do you mean that the arms are kinda behind the thighs?

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>>2878018
took me aback wew, good stuff man. Also she ain't no elf. Snake ladies are best ladies

pls ignore the terrible scales am still learning orz

>>2878157
doesnt look 3d. work on the contours.

>>2877728
Holy shit I just did that for the first time and it came out so much better! I have been doing circles for a year now. Thank you anon!

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I know I suck but that do you guys think?

>>2878221
I think you want attention.

>>2878224
I'm trying to get better by just drawing a lot right now. I bought a book but I need to get some supplies before I dive into it.

>>2878224
>I bought a book
dont do that, you need a lot of books and unless you are rich you shouldnt buy them all.

do drawabox for now, also sticky

>>2878242
I did read the sticky which is why I bought Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. I'm not rich but I don't have many bills so I can afford to spend some money on this stuff.

>>2878253
thats dumb. pirate then donate to charity if you must.

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>>2878157
snake lady you say??

>>2878256
snakes dont have outward ears or breasts or hair and scales dont lend themselves to body form very well.

>>2878262
you got a point there

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It's the first time I plan to make a full illustration but I feel a bit lost, can I have help/critique please? Especially for the clothes and perspective ?

>>2878342
double check forearms
parting of trousers shouldnt be in frame i think
pretty good, above my level for critique i think.

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Should I keep on practicing with paintings as reference ? I really like drawing hands from Il Caravaggio paintings and I feel like this helps but would it bé better practicing with photo reference ?

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>>2878356

>>2878356
>2448x3264

>>2878363
Woah sry didn't know my camera could take pics with a rez that high (I'm on my cell phone right know so I'm affraid I can't do anything about it right box)

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It seems that no matter how much I practice perspective I still struggle immensely with depth.

Any kind of foreshortening always fucks me up I always see things much longer than they actually are.

>>2878369
>#1) screenshot the image and post that instead

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>>2878372
your construction seems to be flat rectangles rather than 3d shapes.

try doing that figure using this method and see if it helps.

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>>2878374
Thanks to you I learned how to screenshot on my phone.

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>>2878377

>>2878110
>>2878111
Thank you, will keep it up <3

>>2878092
thanks

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>>2878356
I think you should work on your line quality.
Can anyone help me out?

>>2878437
hip is bigger

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Something I drew during my break at work

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Proportions and shit look alright?
I'm not too keen on the arms, almost positive they should be shaped differently but I drew it without reference so I have no idea.

>>2878471
UNNNG

>>2878475
I'll take that as a good sign.
Now someone who isn't a chronic masturbator want to critque it? ;^)

>>2878471
>>2878501

Head seems a little fucked
Knees are to big
stop hiding hands

overall not too bad though

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Day 2 of being shit, started drawing bigger and only allowed myself 3 strokes per line/circle as per some anon's suggestion -- thoughts?

>>2878560
I love your handwriting

>>2878560
Haha, this is just how I used to start off too.

If you ever have any doubts please take it from me; it gets better.

>>2878560
don't forget to resize next time

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Is this pose really correct? I never know what it is to fuck something to draw something with a back view.

>>2878562
I love you <3

>>2878564
I'll keep that in mind! How long have you been at it, anon?

>>2878570
Will do

>why are you drawing ovals at 4 AM?
>because i've gained control of my life

>>2878581
I think it would look better if the head was in profile. She looks like she snapped her head.

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I have a really big problem with measuring proportions, distances, lines have wrong lenth/on wrong position

How to get rid of it?

I tried Stravinsky exercise a couple of times

Are there more exercises?

>>2878617
other things upside down

>> 2878616
>> 2878616
I know right? But I feel like I just lose a lot in cuteness and body language if I do something more normal, then I'd rather stick with the impossible pose just to look good.

>>2878617
Bargue drawings, but you wont do them because we are on /ic/ and you wont improve

>>2878624
This pretty much

>>2878620
Change the pose and angle then.

>>2878595

Keep at it friend, you've got this.

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Could I have help ? I feel like everything looks off, especially the clothing

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Old drawing picture.

I've drawn for 3 hours today, all animal anatomy but I still feel like I haven't done enough. How many hours a day should a beginner aim for?

>>2878686
26

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hey, would love some critic, pretty new at drawing

>>2878677
1. he looks like he's wearing that shirt backwards. where's the neck of it

2. he's reading the book either tilted downwards or eyelevel with the viewer, and both of those are really awkward ways to hold a book

3. what is going on with nose

4. perspective of arms is weird

What does the curriculum of an actual art school look like?

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Beginner here. Trying some Loomis. First exercise.

>>2878717
>tfw this exercise is really just to weed out those with potential in imagination and to tell them not to fall for the studies meme
Go out there and fly young one

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I want to know your opinion of this drawing and what can I improve on it

>>2878705

Check FZD and CGMA websites to find out, that is if you're after the design/illustrator type of syllabus instead of the classical, realist painter type of shmeal.

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Looking for tips on poses, especially when it comes to children and perspective.

>>2878728
Art Center has one too

>>2878425
I have literally no idea what's even happening in this scene.

>>2878717
Impressive

So anatomically, how should I draw my circles? Is that a wrist function?

>>2878717
How long have you been drawing?

>>2878765
Why do you ask?

>>2878772
I'm following drawabox and don't want to teach myself incorrectly. Lines = shoulder movement, I know at least.

>>2878776
And is a circle a type of line?

>>2878778
I mean yeah but the gist of the information provided is that the shoulder is more suited to straight motion, while the wrist is suited for smaller curvy motions, such as letters. I wasn't sure where circles fall. Does it depend on size?

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Am I doing the pose study thing right? I dont feel like I am

>>2878787
Yes.

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>>2878790
Dude draw rough with whole arm like Glen Keane

>>2878793
What

>>2878794
Use your arm to draw, not your wrist.

>>2878793
>ywn be this good

>>2878797
other than that though, is the general idea okay? do you the outer and then fill in details?

>>2878794
Like the Anon said, use your arm instead of your wrist. It'll feel better, and look better, and it's easier that wat. You just gotta get used to it.

>>2878805
you must do form and construction first

>>2878807
alright, thanks, guess I'll go read some hampton

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Hey anons, I have some difficulty in drawing folds. How do you draw tissue folds?
This was the last exercise I did, which parts did I fail?

sorry my english, Google Translate

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Anons, is it ok to use the pen in this stage?

>>2878717
>>2878721
>Go out there and fly young one
Followed your advice, pic from my last hour and half drawing. I don't feel very confortable "fying" yet, but I'm having fun. I'll try to fly more. thanks.

>>2878758
Thank you. I hope to be real impressive someday :)

>>2878771
Today is my 7th straight day. I'm trying Fun with a Pencil since yesterday

>>2878905
Looks good, when you gonna start anatomy?

Are there any video series worth watching as a beginner? Seems like watching a professional drawing stuff would be helpful compared to winging it on my own from books and potentially developing bad habits.

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This is your fault /ic/. You taught me how to mess with creation but you didn't teach me how to destroy a monster.

>tfw having bothered with perspective until now
>tfw trying to draw a circular shaped room and being a perspective noob
wahh

>>2878916
I think I'll finish Fun With a Pencil first. You think I can try both or is it OK to finish the book and them try anatomy?

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slowly getting through perspective made easy. I struggle with drawing straight lines. Is it alright to practice drawing lines over and over again like in draw a box, but digitally? I thought I heard somewhere that it should be done traditionally but I can't remember why.

>>2878933
You forgot to account for perspective along the 4th dimensional time axis.

>>2878941
my dumb ass actually looked that shit up orz

>>2878941
This guy knows what it's all about.

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>>2878471
>>2878475
>>2878513
Fixed?

>>2878925
Nah, keep going until you got everything there down. Don't try to rush yourself through everything in one sitting, unless you're bored and want to try something different.

>>2878973
Why isn't he holding an Austrialian flag?

>>2878973
It's uh, upside down.

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>>2878980
Sorry about that.

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>>2878981
Ah maan. There.

>>2878989
You actually added it?
gg m8 you're a toplad

>>2878990
See, now you ruined the joke.

>>2878990
Much better, now at least I can tell it looks like shit!

Since you weren't one of the 1 in a hundred million special snowflakes, you're going to have to do what we all did and that's work hard.

Now get back to the book and continue drawing.

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>>2878994
I don't get it.

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>>2877693
:(

>>2879046
Why is there so many beginners this week

>>2879046
>>2879034
How about you lads take a photo with a telescope?

>>2879050
I think they just decided to (finally) follow the stick

>>2878790
>>2879034
>>2879046
Beginners that don't even bother to post properly. No critiques for you.

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>>2879057
Critique?

>>2879057
Didn't realise there was a format for posting sorry. Just read the the OP post, will delete.

I feel like when ever I try to draw from imagination, I'm just drawing a pose I've memorized from study.

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>>2879053
>>2879057
sorry, in my pc i did rotate it, i dont know why it was posted horizontally

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>>2879067
wtffff

>>2879065
That's why you draw a newly created pose.

>>2879070
*sign* really really bad, stop symbol drawing learn loomis, so on so forth

Third day drawing. Went out and got a set of Faber Castell pens and a sketchpad instead of using a pilot v2 and some notebook paper. Gotta say, it's a huge difference in a really good way.

>>2879153
>tfw like my pilot v2 better than my micron
I run out of ink like every week though. I hope I make the switch to digital soon.

So, I recently began doing something like gesture drawings but for heads, forcing myself to draw different heads in 2 minutes each. I've already gone through the basics of the Loomis method and I thought it would be a good idea to get used to the proportions of the head by shitting out a lot of drawings where I mostly lay down the basic foundations and features.
Does this sound like a good idea or is it some retarded bullshit?

>>2879179
It's pretty retarded because Loomis only gives you a rough to follow and actually apply to life or photos. By doing this, you can fill your visual library unless you want to go imagination route then whatever. Do whatever. Special people who go down that route are able to achieve whatever they want anyways. They're not like us.

>>2879169
yeah i have a intuos pad as well, but everyone here said that to start with I should use ink. I can see why after playing with both. the ink skills work with the pad, but the pad skills don't really work with the ink. moreover, i don't know how well you can really learn the basics drills with the lack of tactile feedback and the issue of resolution with the pad (what your hand is doing may or may not be whats actually happening on the screen due to screen size vs. pad size)

in the end im much more interested in digital media, but i totally understand why it's beaten into beginners to use real pen and paper.

>>2879180
I'm obviously doing normal face studies to develop my skills, this is just something like a side excercise to gain mileage at knowing where to place the features on the face and stuff like that.

>>2879188
>obviously
There ain't nothing obvious with beginners.

>>2878717
Hey, also a beginner, just worse and on my second day -- do you mind if I ask how you're holding the pencil? I've been posting my ludicrously bad stuff in this thread for 2 days now and I've been attributing it to getting used to holding the pencil the "right" way, but it could be that I'm just a talentless hack!

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How do I improve on my backrounds?

No matter how ""ok"" my linework turns out it always turns out awful the moment I start adding in base colors and shading

>>2878717
Looks great. My Loomis heads look like complete shit. Think I'm just gonna have to grind and carry my lack of imagination with technical skill. I will not give up !

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1st time drawer, just wanted to share my, uh, attempt, at Picasso Stravinsky

>>2879281
It's okay. Not all of us were meant to make it.

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>>2879281
Nice Stravinsky m8

Here's mine

>>2879281
>>2879285
>one knows how to resize and correctly take a photo
>the other doesn't
I guess we know which one is going to make it.

>>2879287
Not drawing the whole head was a stylistic choice. Don't h8 m8, just r8

>>2879246
Your linework isn't okay. Try to actually apply perspective instead of arbitrarily slanting lines. Your coloring looks bad because its basically solid colors with randomly applied gradients for shadow. Although really the biggest problem you should focus on is the drawing, not the coloring.

>>2877930
Long video but it might help, even the first few minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRXsfHBHMZQ

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>>2877688
How do I draw primitives from imagination.

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first portrait attempt. the colors were just an afterthought because I was bored, I wasn't trying to do well. She is supposed to look Asian, but she really doesn't at all. Also, the hand. Kill me.

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>>2879342
ref

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I drew this the other week, and I can't help but feel something's off. Any advice?

>>2879342
There's a bit of symbol drawing in here, you might want to fix that. Plus, learning how to measure properly (Ch 3 in Keys to Drawing is a good ref) could also help. I'd reccomend working in black and white to get values down. Also, learning how to color properly with pencils can help bring out depth.

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first environmental painting from reference after months of figures. i feel like Eric bro

>>2879344
I really like it overall, but I think the weirdness you're sensing is the position of her head. I think it should be moved a bit to the left.

>>2879295

This was a lot of help anon, I really like the channel just after giving it a quick glance, I'll definitely check it out. Thanks! :)

>>2879344
forearms too big
proportion a bit off (see arms)
eyelashes make the face look unclean, consider stylistic rework
its a bit flat

good for /beg/ though.

>>2879378
you're already better than eric. work on colour theory and composition for now. and if you are worried about eric, make sure not to make the same mistakes he does.

also are you blocking in?

>>2878018
There's something bewitching about this drawing

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>>2878933
Took a break from the book problems to do something fun while applying what I've learned.

This took me almost 3 fucking hours orz. kept redoing lines over and over again because I'm too wobbly.

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Here's a male figure finally. How is it?

His head looks tacked on. Oh and I forgot to draw the nipples.

I think that I should finish the entire figure. My excuse is that I'm just practicing torsos for now, but I'm probably just being lazy.

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What's something easy and fun to draw? Just something to relax while I break from studies.

>>2879463
bellfrys, chapels, cathedrals, steeples, etc

say what you want about the judaic religions they did great things for architecture.

>>2877761
So pretty. Do you happen to know the artist who drew these?

>>2878034
that's amazing especially considering you did that with vine charcoal.

>>2878372
I have the opposite problem,
When I foreshorten a head I make it wider than it should be

>>2878437
Chest seems too wide and crooked.
Because of this, the shoulders don't look properly attached
Also there doesn't seem to be any definition as to where her waist starts and hips end

>>2878725
Head too big
Belly button too low
Hand holding drink looks lazy

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Not done yet...but does it look bad or ok so far?

>>2879593
torso shape of a man and pelvis is too high and narrow. remember that the iliac crest is always below the navel, not level with it. navel is always below the slimmest part of the waist, which is where the rib cage ends. looks like you squashed all these in the same area.

you need to study the difference in proportion between men and women's bodies. i'd recommend picking up anatomy for sculptors in the art book thread.

>>2879344
The neck is coming out of her back at a weird angle, messes up the whole head

>>2879459
I'm not qualified to give any critique but it looks solid to me.

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First day Loomis, thoughts?
Critique pls

>>2879755
Sorry, phone posted it rotated and too big:(

>>2879755
Another one? Who recommended you come to /ic/? There's no way an influx of beginners can just happen out of the blue.

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When would you guys consider someone to be above beginner level?

>>2879755

Looks good, now go draw your own heads.

>>2879763
When they can stand on their own without guidance

>>2879760
It was me, rejoice!

>>2879760
No one, I've been posting for about a month, but I could only copy manga/comics work. I need to learn everything else, so I started Loomis today
>>2879764
Ty, will try

>>2879799
Loomis is pretty much the copying manga/comics work of the time though. You should have just kept doing what you did.

>>2879803
Should I just keep copying every manga character I want until I can do my own character with all the copying I did?
I want to learn composition, perspective, and how everything works

>>2879819

Also you should be doing studies, as in actually sit down an analyze your favorite artists and try to figure out their thought process when it comes to pieces.

Also try drawing shit on your own. It's going to be dogshit at first but keep at it and you'll see gains.

>>2879819
Well, copying doesn't lead to creation, but it can help since you have some basis to create your ideas off of. For example if you wanted to draw a cute imouto, you would remember Kirino and whatever other imouto there are that you have copied and be able to create a design off of that. Composition is fairly difficult, it's almost a case to case basis judgement. Manga is mainly about composition and perspective though. See what they show and how such as when the character is about to do a really intensive punch, see how the artist frames it. Illustrators are good to look at too, like who, lets see. Pretty much anyone on the Pixiv daily ranking I guess. They're all good. Good for using colors too. Copying color styles is a great way to make your work look better quick. Perspective is easy if you don't draw intense buildings. Basically learn how to draw a box from every angle. What more would you need to know though?

>>2877806
Where do i know that middle dude from? Digimon? Yu gi oh??

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>>2879848
YGO

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>>2879448
I made the house way too short orz

>>2879886
Didn't realize you can draw people too

>>2879886
unnatural wrists

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Opinions? I might have overdone the fur.

>>2879886
It's actually pretty ok if you consider that there is only one floor

>>2879894
you arent allowed to have fun here

>>2879896
Metal doesn't really look like metal. It somewhat does, but it also doesn't. I think it's because you're bottom line between the white and black doesn't follow in parallel with the other side. Meat also doesn't really look like meat.

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>>2879234
> do you mind if I ask how you're holding the pencil?
This way. Take a look at this for more about grip: http://www.proko.com/how-to-hold-and-control-your-pencil/

Just feel confortable, draw using all the arm and don't put too much strenght holding (the first pic in porko's looks like he is killing the pencil) or against the paper.

I was trying Drawing with the Right Side of Brain last week, I think I'll come back to it or try Keys to Draw later.

Keep going, I'm just trying for a week (~30h)
Good luck

>>2879890
I mean I can try at least kek

>>2879892
ahh doing it with my own wrist I feel like a moron as that should of been obvious tyty

>>2879903
won't she have to crouch down quite a bit though?

>>2879265
Thaks
That's the way, anon!

>>2879910
It's okay. Her husband wasn't a good architect. She'll rethink her marriage every time she crouches down to enter the house.

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Getting heavy autism with this mid section.

>>2879760
A friend of mine said it's a good place to get critiques, and if I can't survive to 4chan I can give up, he said.

I'm this anon
>>2878905
>>2878717

>>2879920
How do I get as good as you

>>2879825
Thank you, I will start today. But I want to get good fundies before doing my own shit.
>>2879829
Thanks for the advices, will keep doing what I do and improve the copies. I dont have a goal at the moment, maybe get good enough to make a 1:1 copy of a manga frame and then do my own.

>>2879925
>How do I get good
practise

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please advise

>>2879920
get out of /beg/

>>2879953
Okay

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Any opnions?

>>2879967
Pelvises arnt flat across

>>2879967
Better blending. Also add more colors to the skin.

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>>2879908
>(You)

Shit, I wish I could study that long -- I usually only have an hour a day, but I think I'm going to start getting up earlier to get a few more hours in. Thanks for the answer, I tried drawing more "comfortably" today -- though this was my shortest session :(

feels weird not posting in the thread with my work in the OP

but i've only done shitty beginning value exercises in Keys ch4

need answer >>2879951

>>2880076
Keep up the good work.

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>>2879619
No reply? Been messing around with it all day trying to somehow make it look better. I tend to make the faces too long so i tried to shorten it a bit. Is this any better?

>>2880077
thank you for the encouragement
do you have any critique or advice for me?

>>2880080
Can you notice that some of the heads are good and others aren't?

>>2880078
How come you're in the beg thread anon? You seem like you're too decent to be here.

Also it looks better to me, did you use ref at all

>>2880088
Yeah, I've noticed that. I can't work out what factors are involved in that though. If I could then they would all be better. One of the reasons I post.

>>2880095
How long have you been practicing?

>>2880104
Been practicing loomis heads about a week. Overall about 7 months.

>>2880094
Nobody responds in the Draw thread. Used ref for the body position/pose but not for the head, hair, hands, face, and feet. Also made the booty bigger and attempted to add lingerie since the ref was nude.

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>>2879984
>>2879995
I just tried again from scratch, I like this one more than the old.
But I think I'll try to finish the old one later, to see which is better.

>>2880129
How are you so good already? You paint like Rin anon. You been drawing long? A year maybe?

>>2880130
Since I was a kid, anon, I'm not a begginer but everytime I post in the other thread everyone make fun of my work, so i just think i should stick with the begginers for six months or something like that.

>>2880110
Do more loomis heads. Try to add a little detail, see how it works out. Don't do values yet.

>>2880129
I think the drawing is good as it is

now for the painting side just try to use hard brushes to avoid making it look so muddy and then blend sensibly

>>2879978
What should I be focusing on right now?

How quickly does one go through an art book? I'm reading How To Draw and don't know how many days/hours I should spend drawing lines and boxes before moving to curves.

>>2880148
As long as it takes you, we go back and re-read quite often. You can never master them, so you'll always need to look again and practice to refine your fundamentals. You only need to spend a week on drawing lines and boxes and curves though. Get as fast to actually drawing as you can. That's what you're here for aren't you?

>>2879651
thank you

>>2880151
>That's what you're here for aren't you?

Yes. I'm just not used to the sort of learning that seems to take place in drawing; I'm used to "Learn X. Now X2, Now X3, until you're at Xn and have mastered a thing. Drawing seems a lot less modular.

>>2880158
It can be modular, but most artists find that tedious or boring so we switch quite often. If being modular is a thing you like though, I could probably write something up for you if you wanted. I know it may sound weird to say how art is all about being free and stuff since you'll think about modern art or those "people" on tumblr, but it really is. If you want to draw something, you have a go at it. It may take you a very long time but it's not like you're restricted on time.

>>2880169
What did he mean by this

>>2880167
Drawing for Robots seems very much my style. I'd appreciate it if you did.

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>>2880167
Not him, I would also really like to read something like that

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>>2877688
>>2874373

Posted in the old thread while the new thread was up.

I almost never render, but I really want to get started, so at some point you just have to jump in. How do you guys render? Anything I should keep in mind starting out?

need more advice >>2879951

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How do I make a better robot spider?

>>2880286
Learn the draw through method
I think that anon that specializes in it is here and could teach you

>>2880286

that is rhetorical

>>2880286
First you gotta attach those legs on the left to the thorax.

>>2880214
I colour picked the shit out of my first few to get used to the values.

>>2880300
This, it's so difficult to tell otherwise. Value contrast is way stronger than it looks to a beginner. Just a tiny difference in the greys are enough to seem dark grey or white.

>>2880300
>>2880308
Stop painting on white backgrounds

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>>2880214
It's also very useful to understand lighting and form, it will make rendering much easier because you can work off your understanding.

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Working on this for an hour now?
/ic/ please just shit on me, tell me what I'm doing or need to do to improve. I just want to get better.
Pls not just Loomis. Explain to me what I'm doing wrong.
Sorry for size. I have no laptop

>>2880088
>>2880095
>>2879951
anyone have any thoughts on this?

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>>2879643
makes sense to be, i need to use more photo reference instead of the models ive been using it seems, thanks here is the new one i did today