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What sacrifices did you make in order to draw more?
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>>2857170
Fail my last year of highschool
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>>2857175

Where are you now?
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Nothing. The world has nothing to offer me anyway.
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>>2857180
2 days away of taking a bunch of tests over a 2 week period to see if I can pass the year anyways.

Art wise, I don't really got anything impresive to show, started a year ago.
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>>2857170
Not much, I was naturally a loner. So this hobby was perfect for me.
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No social/love life
23 yr old khv
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>>2857184
This
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Thirty minutes to an hour of my day, more when I have time to spare.
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Gave up any idea of ever being good at a game. Less time playing games, and I'll play easy too so it's over quicker
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My hobbies playing videogames and cosplay

I don't miss them much
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The possibility of ever marrying or having kinds. Maybe I'll marry some gold digging whore from Eastern Europe as soon as I make money with my art.
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No social life, rarely go outside, I used to play video games a lot but not anymore. Also my health, I'm pretty frail and sickly for my age.

Also I'm sure years and years of this will eventually impact my mental health.
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>>2857193
So never, then
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>>2857201
You can't really make any connections with people if you don't do anything. You have to understand that as an artist, 50% of the work is making your art and the other is dedicated to networking, that means on and off the Internet.

Also, get outside, dude. Humans aren't meant to be in a stasis their whole lives. It WILL affect your mental health, there's no way around it.

Your worth more than sitting inside all day, dude. Get on out, be inspired.
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>>2857183
you are me 4 years ago

>you will finish with mediocre scores
>then neet for 1 year
>then find a job you hate
>while still getting better in your free time
>each year you will say this is the year I make it
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>>2857240
>>then neet for 1 year
Your clairvoyance is fucking uncanny, difference is i'll actually make it.
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>>2857212
I know you're right. It's just that I'm depressed and antisocial and I would be stoned out of my mind 24/7 if the desire to make art wasn't there. I suppose recently I've viewed the world and its people with such disdain that I don't want to interact with it.

The only people I really get are other artists, and there aren't many where I live. There is one figure drawing session that meets once a week, but my boyfriend won't let me go. That's a whole different can of worms.

Thanks for your words though anon. I really appreciate it.
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Reading and learning Japanese. Well, maybe I'll get back to jap when I get my routine going more smoothly. But reading is a luxury now, cos eyes get tired.
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>>2857424
You can always listen to Japanese audiobooks while rendering
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I drew every day when I was a teenager
I spend a gap year pretty much just drawing in my room
3 years of university bachelors of art.
2 years of working in the animation industry as a layout artist.
4 years of working in the computer game industry as an art director.
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>>2857455
or get the fuck out.
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>>2857458
Okay. But the only legal document I have is this from when I was at Cartoon Network in 2011... Or do you want me to post my graduation certificate as well?
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>>2857473
I like the wolf
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>>2857170
Nothing really. I lost my social life when my friends reached collage age and the whole group which I had known since I was a little kid became a pain to hang around with. Now they just talk about pornstars, do drugs, sex, smoke, etc. Call me a moralfag I never even started using bad words; I tolerated their shit in the beginning but now it's about all they do so I quit and just draw all day
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>>2857475
Thanks bruv. Your google fu is strong. heheh
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>>2857482
>I never even started using bad words
>shit
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>>2857488
T-that's as far as I go
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Three years of highschool (dropped out) , more than 1k worth of supplies, two years of mental therapy...
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>>2857496
This picture would be a lot better without all those images in the background.
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I lost my sanity and it hurt my grades a bit. Could've had an A, got C''s and B's instead. Whatever though.
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>>2857500
euphoric atheist detected
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>>2857500
No, I think it tells a comfy story
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money and stability. on the plus side girls actually like me now
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>>2857259
No one should live a life being told what you can and can't do, I'm sure the situation is much more complicated than that, but it is what it comes down to.

I'm going through depression too, and am antisocial, I work through it with a psychiatrist (I have one through my school). It's good to have someone to talk to who is basically a cushion. If this option is available (not necessarily through a school, but a psych around (if you have the money)) you should definitely check it out.

If art keeps you off drugs, then good. Channeling emotions and thoughts into your art often makes interesting outcomes. Not necessarily some silly looking abstract piece but a contorted figure or fading face, it makes for great art.

Best of luck to you, anon.
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quit my job, moved back with my mom, quit my friends.
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nothing, draw once a week
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my warband
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>>2857170
I sacrifice my semen five times a day to please the muses who guide my hand.
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>>2857170
A lot of the choices were financial. For instance, my house is made of dirt. That’s about ten thousand dollars worth of earth bags. It would’ve been more but I DIY’d most of it.

I grow my own food as well. Not all of it, but definitely enough. Just the easy stuff right now — carrots, spinach, lettuce, etc. I’ve been experimenting with edible flowers lately which has been really cool.

Other than that not much has changed. You could consider me “retired”, I guess? I mostly just work on dumb projects for fun and spend the rest of my time hanging out, reading, playing with my dogs, or making music.

I did "quit my job" I guess but that would've happened anyways. Sales is a scummy fucking job description.
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>>2857170
my STEM career.
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>>2857873
You'll regret that day, Griffith.
You'll pay with your own blood.
A mad dog is coming after you.
May the astral world have mercy on your demonic spirit.
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>>2858100
>expecting a vanilla 'good guy wins' ending
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>>2857983
Pics or this isn't true.
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>>2857500
no they make the picture infinitely better
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>>2857240
wtf are you me?
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>>2857170
Have not resumed college in more thank 6 months

I only produce/practice music when I have time

Have been reprimanded at work for drawing

Only sleep like 5 hours at most

Never had a social/sexual life, became a wizard and probably will stay a wizard

Technically I'm a hobbyist but even after I started I already knew this was more than a mere hobby and that I will either become a pro or die trying
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>>2860291
Are you close
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>>2860300
I'm much more closer than I was ...say 1 year ago (I've been drawing for almost 5 years), this last month I got for the first time 2 commissions that amount $1500. It's not about the money but I need to find a way to make a living out of it in order to pursuit full time.

Unfortunately I've to still make a compromise with work and college but mostly with the former
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>>2857240
D:
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I was destined to be a shut-in anyway
so nothing much was lost
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>>2857170
Things I've given up:
>Friends.
>Family hated me.
>My only and probably last relationship.
>Social media.
>Video games.
>A degree.
>Depression and wanting to die.
>Being a pussy about everything.

Things have been going on the up and up for me. Don't have to deal with anyone for long periods of time, don't feel bound to anyone, and make good enough money to live off of.
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>>2857170
Social life I guess. Could be out enjoying my youth, but instead I just sit at home most of the time and draw stupid shit that's not even worth the effort.
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>>2860405
You'll have regrets later in your life to be quite honest. It feels good now, but what until you're older, anon.
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>>2860439
How so? I have farmland and a house and I'm not wasting my time wagecucking doing something I don't like. I travel and go on long walks and don't have to deal with clingy gold diggers to drag me down either.
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>>2857183
>>2857240

Are you me and future me? Spooky.
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>>2857170
my dignity
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>>2860439

You people say this garbage.

But I didn't draw enough through my 20's and pushed it aside to have fun with people.

and now I'm 30, no friends, and I have no good memories of my time spent. I rather would have been a much better artist.

Stop with this "You'll regret life passing you by!" meme. It's repeated by people who didn't live a life to begin with, worked on art, and then imagined what a social life would have been like.

What they make up is all fantasy and has no reality to it. In their minds, they passed up all these positive things and don't even know the negatives are. No idea.

Just draw. Draw if you want to be good. Life is what you're living right now. What you think you missed out on? That's all bullshit.
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It was get a full time job or go to school so I picked art school to keep drawing.

No time to play video games anymore, I barely sleep due to constant deadlines, I would be a nervous wreck if I weren't so tired. I'm working constantly but half of it is pointless, and I'm lucky if I get one personal piece done a month.

Other than that I was already at rock bottom so there wasn't much to sacrifice. I kind of thought I might even get to meet a girl or make friends at college, but nobody really talks outside of their groups and I've gotten too shy. I feel lonelier now at school than I did at home by myself.

But hey, maybe after a few years of this I'll be a good artist and I'll be able to live on my own and draw things that I want to draw for a living, and spend my time however I choose to. Maybe.
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A decent sleep schedule
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>>2857170
Games, tv, friends/social skills.

Not to say I never ever do those things, I watch movies with family sometimes and maybe go out with friends once every month or less. Its just become really rare.

Never really missed games after I stopped playing them though. Which is ironic and depressing considering that's my job now.
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>>2860330
same. while it is lonely sometimes, at the end of the day I'm much more comfortable and happy being by myself anyways lol
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>>2861431
This is a result of being brainwashed by your own mind.
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>>2857473
we watched backwater gospel in my animation class at college
noice
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>>2857240
>tfw on step 3
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>>2857259
Dude.. Don't let your boyfriend keep you from going to a figure drawing class. Everyone there is there for the sake of art. And the benefits of drawing from life are incredibly helpful in growth.
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>>2861568
>tfw scared to take a figure drawing class because can't into gestures or proportions all that well
I understand a class is meant to get you better and all, but it sometimes feels like people who take it are already good.
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>>2861574
Nah there's always loads of shitlords and retards that go.

You'll fit right in.
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I sleep a lot less
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>>2861574
Anon, I just got out of NEETing for two years and now I'm taking a figure drawing course at a local community college (and I've done a few other sessions elsewhere), so I understand your apprehension. Trust me, there's a whole range of skill levels attending. There's this lady in her mid-50s attending who is just starting to learn. Then of course there's some people who've been practicing for decades and have the experience. But a large bulk is still students in the process of learning their fundies and basic skills.

You just need to focus on you, so you can get better. I hope you can overcome your current difficulties.
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>>2857259
>>2861568
This. I dropped my boyfriend because he felt like I was putting bettering myself first. And him, second. And I shamefully admit, I was.

If he’s so insecure that he won’t let you see another naked man or woman, you’re in for a talk. Though, I don’t know who your boyfriend is. He could be a religious man, What do I know? Generally, if your loved ones drag you down to their level and they themselves make no effort to improve themselves that’s a co-dependant relationship and needs to be purged immediately.

>>2861574
If you’re that embarrassed do some bargue studies on your own for a bit before going. That will teach you to learn to observe and will be harder to fuck up despite not knowing anatomy and basic proportion. You’re there to study what’s in front of you, not relay your Loomis meme construction.
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>>2857170
Friendships and particularly relationships. I have to find someone who is okay with me having less time to spend with them, and I thought girls were needy but guys are even worse. Girls are more receptive to whatever I throw at them, but guys though? Guys are fucking demanding and want all of me to themselves.

don't become gay
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>>2861619
That's a bit difficult anon
Having friends is basically being gay
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>family tells me have to go to college, no if and or buts.
>get a scholarship to a fantastic art institute
> "um .... we can't afford it, you're going to a teachers college" (thats a fucking lie, my great grandpa invented photo dev tubs, you have money coming out of your ears)
>go to teacher college, art program sucked ... so i had to change majors to be an art teacher instead. Also sucked.
>drop out
>lie to family because they would disown me
>mom just found out last week ... haven't heard from my family since ... other than my grandpa and uncle who regret not following their dreams

welp /ic/ .... i made it. after trying to pay the bills with porn commissions ... im finally setting up actual art occupation connections. It just cost me ... ever talking to my entire family again ...

also
> wah i have no social life cuz art
nigga is you retarded? How the hell you gonna make money from art if you don't know people to sell it to. majority of an art profession is getting your name out there. Might as well be preforming plays in your basement with that attitude.
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>>2861628
Large client base, patrons, followers =/=socializing with faggots.
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>>2861628
How did you get a scholarship? Just how good were you?
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>>2860508
what art school are you at that doesn't allow for personal pieces as part of the end portfolio?

>>2860476
cause i mean .... having both would just be silly right? The fuck.


Well this thread made me feel 10 times better about my situation. The fuck kind of meds you all on that you can draw AND have a job AND go out every once in awhile? Take vyvanse or some shit, damn. It's nice being able to focus on your art with a clear mind for 2 hours straight after work, then grab a drink with a friends and come back later with a new set of eyes to improve your work. Is everyone in this thread a highschool drop out?
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>>2861651
I was in highschool and after submitting some of my work i was approved for a summer program for kids my age. I went there and learned to paint with oils. I learned nothing from my life drawing class, but it was still fun. Afterwards they approached my mom and said they liked my stuff and how fast I was able to pump it out with little to no force from instructors to go to studio time. I think they were just impressed with what I could do for my age. And i live in the midwest ... so if I can draw something that isn't related to jesus or sunflowers they tend to like it.

>>2861643
I'm not talkin social media buddy, but nice shot. Socializing with "faggot filthy casuals" keeps me from being a depressed asshole. You should try it sometime.
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>>2861628
I love you and want to be your friend.
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>>2861676
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>>2861680
No I'm a skinny white guy.
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>>2861663
>Socializing with "faggot filthy casuals" keeps me from being a depressed asshole. You should try it sometime.
I'm not depressed and need to use other people to make myself feel better though.
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stopped playing vidya
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>>2860508
I'm kind of in the same boat anon, and I feel that whenever I have breaks from school I can get way more shit done. During winter break I got tons of work done and pretty much worked on personal stuff all day. Idk about you but the majority of kids at my school just party and shit which is cool but honestly they never get anything done.. and then people wonder why they can't get jobs after graduating. That being said, there really isn't anything wrong with going out every once in a while as long as you prioritize your work.
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>>2860508
Really, anon. I would kill to go to art school and here you are complaining about it. It's pretty much impossible for me to get in without massive money or rewriting the past and doing well in school.
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>>2860476
You harp on sounding like you're happy but from what you posted you just seem upset to be honest. This sounds like stuff someone would say if they were in denial.
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>>2861730
I'm an introvert and not depressed at all. But tons of butthurt people in here complain about being neet. If you want to be social ... go do it. But whether you are happy with being alone or not, you will become and asshole without human interaction offline. It is easy to assume the worst of society ... when you never interact with it. And referring to other humans you could talk to as faggots who just don't need and don't get you ... kinda makes you sound like an out of touch ass. But at least you're not depressed! c:
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>>2857240
I wish. I can't find a shitty job so I'm still stuck with fucking University. I have to constantly live in the fear of exams and shit, studying a shitty 600 pages book for every single exam.

Still it leaves me a lot of free time, it's just choosing between anxiety or free time in the end
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>>2861984
Same, although quite recently. Stopped playing 2 weeks ago because I need to have a huge portfolio done for next month.
I miss playing with my buds the most, but I can't spare 4+ hours a day to play right now.
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>>2857240
delet this
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>>2862540
I'm not neet, nor depressed. If I ever need a small vacation I do have loose acquaintances in other countries places where I can drop off and get shitfaced or whatever and shoot the shit about general things. The fags I'm referring to are the kind of, "I've been friends with this guy since college and need to see him at least twice a week to talk about nothing and everything," fags. Those people aren't good for creatives.
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>>2862800
Not that anon, but the way you talk about people is sad. If you keep seeing yourself as above others, especially for just enjoying socializing and being in each other's company, it'll only lead to sadness and constant disillusionment. I've been there.
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>>2857170
For starters I sold all my video games and my gaming pc. I bought an outlet notebook unable of running even GTA san andreas at max settings. Also, no Netflix shows or cartoons. I only allow myself to watch movies and read comic books (with a limit of reading 5 chapters per day).

I lost my friends before getting serious about art and my family is toxic so our relatioship is always confusing. But I refuse to cut the connection between me and my parents.They are all I have and I love them. Even if they want me to become a lawyer.

But I still procastinate online, especially on youtube. I'm thinking about get a 3G internet or something shitty like this so I can't waste my time on internet. Or cut internet connection and use it only on weekends.

Pic related, that's the schedule I'm trying to follow but I don't have enough discipline.
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>>2863882
I like how this post really demonstrates why this anon won't make it because of his own induced stupidity.
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>>2863888
Thanks anon. I needed to read that. I need and I will step up my game.
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>>2863882
You're making art a chore basically. You have a schedule set up, and so constraining you'll burn out, actually you've already burned out because you can't even follow it, cutting yourself off from everything as if it's rational. Why do people try to follow these stupid schedules like it's the key to success, if you don't enjoy drawing, stop doing it, just because you hate it now, doesn't mean you'll love it later (especially with these dumb fucking schedules).

You're like a Tiger Mom to yourself, and you're going to resent art later because you're not seeing progress from your "fool proof" life style.

Do what you fucking like, stop making something that is supposed to express yourself into these tiny time boxes.

Are you on welfare if you have this amount of free time?
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>>2861661
Dito. Depressing fucks everywhere. Are artists just more whiny or autistic?
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>>2861661
>The fuck kind of meds you all on that you can draw AND have a job AND go out every once in awhile?
It's called burn out.
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>>2864080
But anon the whole process of learning the fundamentals and cement the information is not fun. This whole process is not supposed to be fun. The fun comes from drawing things from your imagination later, with skill.

And while this schedule may not be a key to sucess, i got this from dave rapoza's site, from the time he way grinding on crimson daggers. He's now an artist whoworks in the industry, but i'm sure you know him.

But thanks for replying, i'll try to take some of what you said in consideration.
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>>2863799
In which part of my posts do I sound like I feel like I'm above others? When I refer to them as fags? Lurk more.
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>>2857170
lol nothing
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>>2864279
This
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>>2863882
this is cute. 99.8% of people need more downtime than you propose. I doubt you follow this schedule completely either. Unrealistic as fuck.
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>>2863882
>>2865460
**edit, you wrote
> but I don't have enough discipline.
discipline isn't the issue here. You're a human being. This will lead to burn out and failure unless you're some autist savant. Set realistic goals for yourself. Realistic goals don't have to be lazy, slow, or inefficient.
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>>2865460
>>2865469
If dave rapoza did it, why we can't? Like I said, I got this schedule from his site back when he was doing crimson daggers. I didn't it make up. You know what level dave rapoza is now?
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>>2865477
well that's one exceptional person as an example. Doesn't say a shred about what anyone else is capable of.
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>>2865480
He always says it himself, but he didn't start great. He's not exceptional he's just a dude who worked really hard. And I think we can do it too.
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>>2865492
wish we all could. We'd all be amazing artists lol. I hope you can stick to it though. Takes a specific type of person to hold that focus.
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>>2865494
>I hope you can stick to it though.
Thanks anon. Eventually I'll be able to stick to it 100%. If I just keep going doing the best I can I know I'll be able to do it.
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