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What are the types of drawings that attract girls? I'm not sure if I'm breaking any rules but since a majority of us here are lonely fucks, I guess this is needed.
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>>2836595
Realistic portraits
Feely felt shit about feminism
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The ones that she thinks impress her friends.
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I'm a girl and I just want dick with a side of cuddles.

Also girls like cute stuff, usually of fanart, like pic related.
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>>2836600
What do girls think of anime
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>>2836595
>types of drawings that attract girls
None. Just don't be fat or unreasonably awkward, also practice good hygiene.
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>>2836595
Draw cute boys
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>>2836607
How am I supposed to know what a cute boy is?
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>>2836603
They prefer the ones that sexualize the boys either as cute twinks or a shy, kind of anti-social boy in a romantic relationship with a quirky "rofl glomp" girl.

Or they totally hate all anime and go completely off the other end of the spectrum by loving the shit out of Disney.
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>>2836610
>>2836607
That's a cute boy
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>>2836610
They look something like this
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>>2836600
As >>2836596 said, do you girls like the idea that one day a guy will draw you?

>>2836607
>>2836612
As a guy, they would think I'm fucking gay.
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>>2836614
how the fuck am I supposed to get my hair to look like that
he looks like a slightly less twinky version of the P5 protagonist
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>>2836607
I should draw a self portrait then
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Oh wow, look at all these attractive people.

Time to end this gene pool.
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>>2836622
Not if you draw shy guy with glomp-y girl and go, "I like assertive girls... (blush) I'm shy so I like a girl who tells me what to do in bed." Then some girls will get allured by the challenge and the refreshing breath of not having a dominating guy pressure them into sex. Of course you risk into meeting the girl who speaks her mind, "WHY DON'T CHILDREN'S CARTOONS HAVE MORE QUEERS AND BLACKS REEEEE".

>>2836622
If the girl likes the guy's art right off the bat, yes. If the girl is indifferent to their art, then don't draw for them until they actually really like you (And not just as a friend) because they find it creepy. It's like buying a girl you just met a gift and now they feel like you're just befriending them to get in their pants. If your art sucks, even if they love you, they're gonna be awkward because they don't want to tell you it sucks like the kid who makes their parent macaroni gifts.
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>>2836629
gootby.......................
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>>2836630
I'm aware of that. I was asking for specific shit they find cute when a guy draws it
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drawings that demonstrate your SKILL and how clever/inventive you are. not much else to it

btw that goes for pretty much anything, not only drawing

chicks truly do dig skilled faggots
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draw chad
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>>2836595
water color sketches of animals, specifically puppers
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>>2836595
Draw whatever makes you rich and famous because chicks are gold digging whores that like status and want to move up the social ladder.
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OP here. Something that projects the idea that one day you'll draw them nude and lewd if they fucking work hard for it
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>>2836677
DRAW ME LIKE ONE OF YOUR FRENCH GIRLS
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>mfw a qt who likes me likes the fact that I draw furry porn too
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>>2836678
See? it worked! I can have a good night sleep now
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>>2836681
That's called a keeper, you fucking freak.
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>>2836675
>t. a man who slays pussy every night.
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>>2836687
Dont worry homie I'm locking that shit down.
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>>2836677
>tfw get really good at figure drawing
>girls all squeal over it and want you to do it for them for free
It's just fantasy right?
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>>2836678

You jest but it isn't uncommon among women to desire to be drawn nude. It's an ego thing.

Every so often I get a gal that is shocked by men drawing naked women in front of them, probably internalized feminism and all. These gals make the best lays.
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>>2836703
No don't let them tool you. they have to behave to daddy first
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>>2836705
We talking drawing fat women or we talking models. There's a difference.
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>>2836612
>>2836607

>no homo

>>2836596

>feely felt shit about feminism

Do you want to attract girls or landwhales?

>>2836595

Girls have a strong image of themselves. Draw them. Bonus points for a "Disney style" portrait (Sleeping beauty Disney, not calarts Disney).

Girls also like passionate guys, show some passion and enjoyment for drawing, say profound shit like: "Doctors and engineers save lives and make living easier, but what is the point in living in a world without art?" keep it wise and deep. Don't fall for the corny shit. Also have some level, but drawing decent didnee is enough for most grills.

Approach them and tell them how pretty they are and if they let you draw them.

This works because if you present yourself as an artist, they wouldn't see you as a creep who wants their tits. They will see that you have a genuine interest in them and you have a sincere reason to call them "pretty". She's not pretty for you because you want to bang her, she's pretty for you because you find her an attractive and interesting drawing subject, you find her pleasing to look at, etc., etc...

If she asks you to draw her nude, congratulations, she wants to fuck.

Source is me lol.

Also if you want to attract girls, don't ever fucking draw anime. Anime is a 1000% sign that you are a virgin fag. Girls don't want virgin fags. They want a proper and extensive fuck.
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>>2836595
That left nostril is triggering the fuck out of me.
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>>2836705
>Every so often I get a gal that is shocked by men drawing naked women in front of them, probably internalized feminism and all
Pretty damn positive they just think you're autistic for drawing nudity in public.
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>>2836625
have long hair on top or your head, short hair at the bottom, a gradient in length in between and the rest is how you make it sit
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>>2836607
I have the hair, the eyebrows, the eyes, the brow, the mouth, the jawline, the cheekbones, the lips, AND the beard.

Have a fuck hueg nose and small chin. And a thin overall body-type causing my neck, shoulders, and upper torso to be thin. And I'm too poor to get braces atm, so I have slightly crooked teeth.

So close mangs. I guess that's why we breed; to admire the gods who walk among us. Damn it the rng gods were so close.
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>>2836845
I know that feel, and the worst part of it, is the poor part because you know it's something you could fix but don't have the money

I wonder if by the time I'll be 24 it will be too late
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>>2836610
They usually look feminine but with slight masculine features like a strong jaw line, well defined cheek bones, muscular but lean build, bright striking eyes (go for blue or hazel) Remember to keep their features soft don't over define anything. Remeber, LINE ECONOMY

Form fitting clothing preferably revealing a bit of the chest. Smooth skin, glossy hair, tall, and well defined lips as well.

They can be any colour. Facial hair is an option but keep it restrained and styled.

Also take gay men's personal tastes with a grain of salt as many are more attracted to more rugged, bara type men.
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>>2836675
hi Noah :)
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honestly OP art doesnt matter much to people. its just a plus to being a really cool guy

>>2836596
>Feely felt shit about feminism
he said girls, not mongs

>>2836600
pretty much this
cute stuff, fanart, hot stuff, any good stuff
isnt it the same for guys?

>>2836603
if its good its good. thats about it
but yes having cute boys being gay does help. not enough to make shit not be shit though.
honestly amazes me how /a/ can sit through an entire shit show just for a best girl
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>>2836595
You're not going to attract girls with your drawings you fucking autist, try improving your looks and attitude first
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>>2836595
i hate people who do arts just to impress girls they are annoying posers and most of the time their art is shit
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>>2836951
>>2836985
those.
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>>2836951
>>2836985
>>2837004
I can't make connections if I suck at socializing. using my own creativity to connect with people(especially girls) is good for my self improvement.

it's hitting two birds with one stone
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>>2837054
no it is not. i know someone who does art in a manner that only impresses normies and he has told me that he does art because of that, he has not improved in years and always asks me what to do and how to improve his lack of imagination.
there are some people who can't into art no matter how they want it i dunno maybe they are not autistic enough but some people can't so they try to take shortcuts and maje themselves "interesting" as quicker and easier as possible, after sometime everybody sees through the bullshit. i ve just seen it with my eyes, maybe you have another experiences or view the subject differently
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>>2837108
You're right but you're friends case is different

I never had a problem with my imaginations I just feel like cheating sometimes
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>>2836595
What are the types of drawings that attract boys? Apparently they seem to like gynoids and musclegirls, but those who like that go on 4chan, hence not representative
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>>2837141
I personally like OCs or anything slightly similar to the stuff I draw

fan arts and portraits mean absolutely nothing to me
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>>2836617
Wow, a cute white boy.
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>>2837141

>What are the types of drawings that attract boys?
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>>2837188
>>2837141
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I'm a girl, I don't really date other artist (or guys), lean towards STEMfags because they can have a good eye for critique. Plus mediocre dick and extra coins if I need them.

I like soft art, watercolors and shit, but with a good understanding of how forms and shapes work. I think it's not always a matter of how it looks stylistically, but how it shows your understanding and how you've developed your skill. The art that makes me find anyone attractive is art where it's apparent this person has put effort into developing a skill set and executes it well. Basically, hard work and passion, y'know, confidence.
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>>2837197

>STEMfags
>medicore dick, good for monies

You break my heart, brb going gay ;___;
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>>2836600
I love seeing something original and expressive rather than just fanart
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>>2836595
Draw yaoi
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my tips:
go to r9k
stop being retarded
leave every other board alone =
success! now fuck off you pathetic little cuck worm.
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>>2836803

>don't ever fucking draw anime. Anime is a 1000% sign that you are a virgin fag.

Oh yeah. Anime is most oriented to men, that's why girls find it really cringey.
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>>2837209
thats because you are not a real girl
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>>2836595
I'm a girl, so I'll just answer a few questions, also every girl is different so don't take me as a 100% example.

>>2836596
Current time feminism is weird, just don't be an idiot and expect the girl to clean after your ass and cook every meal you want. Unless she wants to, that's fine then. Just be equal. If the girl is an evil feminist, stay away from her.

>>2836599
ehh no, unless the girl is a pleb and has pleb friends? Most of my friends are artists.

>>2836603
>>2836612
>>2836939
I like to watch anime sometimes, not a huuuge fan though, I try to paint realism and my SO paints realistic-ish too. I like cute art though, and most girls do.

>>2836607
no, please don't draw guys like this and expect a girl to like you for that. Draw whatever you want, as long as you are good you can show off your skill. To me that guy looks gay.

>>2836622
I like being drawn by my SO, it makes me happy, would also pose nude for him. I think this is the case with most girls that like the way you draw.

I've never been in a relationship with somebody who is not an artist, so I might be a little bit biased, but to me it's important that the guy does art, and practices it and not be a little shit who only pretends to and sucks. Also I hate it when men only draw to get bitches, you can see their art is not what they want to do. Draw what you want! For you! Get good. Also all the one direction-ish men don't look like men. Take care of your hygiene, go to the gym, you don't need to be muscular just don't be fat, if you take care of yourself girls will like you more. Same counts for girls, take care of your body and looks and more men will like you.

I hope this was a little bit helpful : )
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Man there are a lot of women here.

Ladies, if I draw some really nice stuff near women, will they approach me and start conversation? I have no problems talking, but I'm just too autistic to approach a grill first and initiate (probably because I'm scared of how they'll react)
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>>2837207
>going gay
The only intelligent option if you want someone who loves you for who you are and not for what they can get out of you.
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>>2837141
Nice mechanical designs or cute grills.
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>>2837324
depends on the lady. if you don't initiate, some girls might label you as the antisocial artist type. If you're skilled enough, and they are close enough to see, they'll probably initiate.
>>2836667
for normies maybe
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What kind of drawings attract gay girls
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>>2837329

>trying to convert people into dick sucking

Not getting too many grindr matches this week I presume?
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>>2836610
>How am I supposed to know what a cute boy is?
Draw a trap wearing male clothes
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>>2837361
kek
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>>2837347
Steven Universe fan art, pin-ups of fat burlesque mermaids and stenciled graffiti of people using weapons to fire subversions of bullets, such as glitter or candy.
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>>2837188
>>2837190

Ferri draws nice feet
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>>2837299
I have been told that many times
>>2837324
most likely they will if they are interested in what you are drawing or if they are artists themselves
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>>2837197
>not wanting a STEMfag bf to corrupt
You know, the ones that lower their voices when they talk about sex with their friends in public.
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What if the girl is an artist, too?
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>>2837432
>bf to corrupt
stop making me want things i was fine without before
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>>2836595
>What are the types of drawings that attract girls?

Want a real answer from a girl? It doesn't matter. What you draw is only an icing compared to your social skills, appearance, and responsibility but you're better off drawing objectively well and from your own self instead of pandering to others.

If you draw the youtube-tier fanart and portrait of celebrities, pander to feminism, shit like that... that's the kind of level of girls you're gonna get. The awkward fat weeaboo type who rant on tumblr to other SJWs.

If you want normal girls who take care of themselves, go for concept art, sculpture, and anything else that takes actual skill.

>>2836658
this is really the only answer you need
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>>2836803
oi
and when to fuck here if she wants a nude drawing
before or after
or dont even draw her, just fuck?
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>>2837329
Every gay guy I know is out here for the cash money too.
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>>2837370

Yes, I'm attracted to how he draws...feet. Yes, feet.
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>>2836595
>and also get a lot of pussy
Precisely how much pussy are we talking here?
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>>2837798

20lbs
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>>2837502

You obviously draw her because you're supposed to love it, nigger.

If you simply concentrate on fucking drawing instead of acting like a weeb seeing anime tits...

It's part of being alpha. You have had so much pussy that you don't desperately search for it. She needs to fight for your cock. She sees that you're a passionate guy and the least virgin ever and she wants to be fucked too... But hey, you have some non-sexual interest in her, she can approach your super alpha masculine dick and give it oral pleasure at any time.

If you're actually skilled, passionate and don't get hard while drawing nudes, you can fuck any qt girl.

If she refuses you, oh well, at least you are gitting gud.

again source is me lol
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>>2836595
>Feely felt shit about feminism
Am female but what the fuck does feminist art look like?
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>>2837801
holy fuck. Wait. How much does the average pussy weigh again?
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Women don't care if you draw you fucking retards. They care about your looks and your bank account. That's it.
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>>2838178

trans captain america and indian convenient store owner tony stark obvs
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>>2836596
>Feely felt shit about feminism
as a girl, this sounds like an instant turnoff
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>>2838178
Diverse characters, that's it
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>>2838179
Tumblr pussy or the regular one?
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>>2838178
I guess any art with an obvious agenda behind it.
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they like somewhat realistic portraits
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>>2836596
>Feely felt shit about feminism
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>>2838238
Nazi propaganda is feminist art? Wow!
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>>2836595
isn't this that trans girl who I used to see all the time? Who is that?
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>>2838305
woah woah woah. put a blind fold on that thing.
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>>2836595
we like it when you don't suck dick at it, especially if we're better at it then you.
the best thing you can do is to be better.
It is fucking embarrassing when some guy shows me his drawings, trying to impress me and I'm just sitting there giving him pity compliments cringing internally because I am leagues ahead of him.
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>>2838361
post your work, doll.
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>>2838305
its someone r9k faggots constantly masturbate to.
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>>2838390
edgy
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>>2838390
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>>2838390
hour studies i think
do better than this.
shouldn't be hard.
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>>2838399
...

>>2838405
You look like you might have some talent, kid. But it's hard to get a handle on a gal from just looking at some photo studies. Doesn't say much about a dame's interests or power level.

>>2837304
What do you got goin' on? Show us what you got, darling.
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>>2838420
nigga u think im dum?
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>>2838399
oh this is a thing now
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from (one) girl, it doesn't matter whether you draw or not, because personality is king.

but if you're an artist genuinely trying to "make it", then just be at a level I can respect (aka git gud).

>>2838361
yup.
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>>2838420
you might act like you are a 50ies era alpha male, but we all know you are a skinnyfat, spineless loser with a ~dont tread on snek~ flag in your room who browses r9k famalam
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Why can't we just all get along?
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>>2838399
this needs to be added to merc wip
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>>2838497
Well aren't you just a pocket full of firecrackers.
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>>2838537
Alphas don't larp, much less without knowing the source material to heart.
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>>2836595
just draw urself :)
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>>2836617
Is this mannequin?
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>>2836600
Basic bitch detected.
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>>2838829
Underage spouting shit they heard their older brother say but don't understand what it means detected.
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how to attract white bois that's not a bisexual? I'm an asian grill.. do they like robot drawings?
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>>2838871
as a viking boi 2 metters manly guy I like lewd drawings of sexi grills,
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>>2836658
>>2837479
These two.

I've literally drawn shit like anime and western comics (because I actually like it) and it still caught the attention of a lot of girls back in my day. By "girls" I mean like the ones that would usually hang out with Chads and not just landwhales and the like.

The funny part was that I was sociable enough to actually carry conversations with them but autistic enough not to realize they probably wanted some action so I never actually hit it off with anyone (I was too idealistic and innocent back then).

Also helps that, while I wasn't a jock, I could actually do sports enough to compete with one, so being fit and hygienic also helps.
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>>2837432
G-goddamn roastie, stay away from me. t. STEMfag who draws a hobby
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>>2837197
>tfw STEMfag and porn artist

I hate actual women so fucking much.

I stay in shape and have my shit together only to reject you retards.

I wish I was gay.
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>>2838520
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>>2840197
kek
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>>2838933
i know this feel exactly, girls are shit
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>>2838933
>>2840202
you two can kiss now faggots
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>>2840205
i would but that's gay
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>>2836607
>draw cute boys
>become a gay
thanks /ic/
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>>2837197
>>2836658

>Basically, hard work and passion, y'know, confidence.

/thread
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>>2837141
if they're better than me it's attractive but also feels bad
tfw no similar level art gf so we can inspire each other to work harder and try be top dog
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>>2840837
>tfw no similar level art gf so we can inspire each other to work harder and try be top dog

I know those feels, bro.
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Also, it's pretty hot when grills draw more serious stuff. Not cute/cartoony/exaggerated stuff as usual. There is this one grill that draws more down to earth fantasy stuff a lot. Kind of generic I guess, but done well and I like her mark marking. She's probably a lezbo.
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>>2836595
Just an opinion from one girl, but if you are good at it I don't care what you're drawing, you instantly go up a solid 2-3 points in my book. Exceptions being cringe stuff like furry porn or MLP.

I literally know nobody in real life who has any serious interest in art or drawing. I think if I actually met a guy who was a decent artist I'd instantly develop an attraction as long as they weren't a fucking swamp creature or something (and still maybe even then...)
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>>2840880
>I think if I actually met a guy who was a decent artist I'd instantly develop an attraction as long as they weren't a fucking swamp creature or something (and still maybe even then...)
yeah, i know how that feels. except for chicks. hell, i could extend it to: if i ever met a girl with any sort of genuine interest in anything i'd probably marry 'em.
it's a very meaningful thing to me when someone dedicates themselves to something like art
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>>2840947
>it's a very meaningful thing to me when someone dedicates themselves to something like art

Exactly, I feel the same. I can probably count the number of people I've met who on one hand who have had genuine interest and willingness to work at something. They seem to be everywhere on the internet, yet very few people I know in real life have hobbies.

My friends like to tease me because I get a little obsessive with hobbies, whether it's setting up fish tanks, drawing, sculpting, or trying to build my own furniture. I'd be completely ecstatic if I found someone who would do any of those things with me to be honest.
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>>2836595
Girl here. I'm less attracted to specific subject matter and more attracted to general skill level. Doesn't matter what a guy draws, just as long as he's damn good at it. Well, and as long as it isn't some weird shit like furry porn.

He would have to be somewhere around my own skill level, too. If he's much worse than I am then I'll pity him, and if he's much better then I'll feel jealous because I'm a competitive person. I basically avoid dating other artists because of that.

And if you want to attract non-artists, it honestly doesn't matter what you draw. The vast majority of them are easily impressed by anyone with an ounce of skill.
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>>2836845
Plastic surgery can take care of the nose and chin, and the gym can take care of the body. Get rich and attain godhood, anon.
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>>2836600
Dentist-kun is that you?
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>>2836632
I to get that same stare. It seems like depersonalization due to trauma. PTSD. I have it to. She looks so sad :( hope she's ok..
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>>2841007
probably just how her eyes look, they're kind of unique
i feel you on depersonalization though, shit's awful
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>>2841007
pigeon girl has some pretty weird eyes yeah, and looks spaced out a lot
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kikkujo and kuvshinov-ilya style drawings are the shit rn for alt girls
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>>2840976
post your work
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>>2838882
>search up artist
>really good but barely any works
What?
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>>2840846
Why would you think she is a lesbo? It is not the only thing I draw but I enjoy painting realistic girls that look pretty in my paintings, and I am not a lesbo. Don't loose your hopes yet, she might like you too.
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>>2838178

Like the death of western civilization.
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>>2841241
>Like the death of western civilization.
Great explanation!
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>>2836607
ugh what a manspreading shitlord
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>>2836845
Same minus the ugly chin and crooked teeth.
I could be quite good loking if it wasn't for the shitty slim body. The nose also looks bigger because of the thin face.
But I stopped giving a shit about it and the gym is't worth it
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What kind of art would seduce Ven?
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>>2840976

>>2841230
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>>2841230
kek nice
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>>2837141
Robots and mechas are always cool

Honestly though, just being decently good is enough to get me interested, doesn't really matter what the subject is.

That being said, I'm probably not the sort of dude you'd want to be attracting, so take that as you will.
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>>2840956
Are you me?

I've found like 2 girls ever who get invested in their hobbies like I do, but I got rejected by both of them.
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>>2836607
looks portuguese
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>>2841241

>le SJW is le greatest threat to le white race
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>>2836803
>say profound shit like: "Doctors and engineers save lives and make living easier, but what is the point in living in a world without art?"
>keep it wise and deep. Don't fall for the corny shit.
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>>2837141
Well, sincerely I'd be attracted by someone who shares a real passion for art with me. Something almost spiritual.
If you just draw cutesy *-* shit, weeb stuff and famous portraits you can be as good as you want but in the end you are just an amateur hobbyst
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>>2836595
Here's your answer OP. >>2838196 Tumblr eats that shit up.
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>>2838871
they like porn
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>>2842033
Yep, this part was one of corniest things I have read this year.
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>>2841946
> le meme
He did not mention sjws, not even once. Secondly he does not implied any threat from feminist art, but shared observation about overal feel of such art.

>le kkk nazis everywhere
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>>2838871
Literally just draw anime.
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>>2836595
>What are the types of drawings that attract girls?
Paintings.
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>>2836632
>S-S-S-S-SYMBOLS
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>>2842302
No, anime is a shit. Real answer: Asian grill wouldn't have to do anything to attract white boy. Just grab a white boy by the dick.
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>>2836600
are you > 300lbs
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>>2843480
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>>2843480
I almost forgot they like vampires.
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>>2843480
Guess I should spank her
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>>2843480
also her favorite artist is sakimichan
(and yes my GF also draws)
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>>2843485
>favorite artist is sakimichan
Might as well have told me not gonna make it.
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>>2836595
Can't speak for other girls, but I dig stuff like this.
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>>2843486
well, I made it, as far as meeting her online, after she added me in fb since she likes my drawings... so there's that. And I draw qt grills in skimpy clothings.
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>>2843491
F-feng?
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>>2843485
Sakimichan's works have great sex apeal.
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>>2843492
no.
dont wana share my stuff as I know 4chan. Next thing I know will be ppl harassing me or my gf
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>>2843495
So does she just use you for your money
I can't imagine some girl just liking your drawings and your relationship going smooth
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>>2843497
eh? we met through that, we started chatting and next thing you know we got together. we both draw, we both basically enjoy very similar stuff.and etc. We even went through the being just friends phase for like a year.
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>>2843490
Monster guys are great, anon. I wish there was more lewds of em.
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>>2843490
>>2843499
girls dont like this, dont listen to this furfag who wants more artists to start drawing this cancer

Pic related like the only furry thing I ever liked
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>>2843499
where's his pee pee
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>>2836595
If you're motivation for drawing is to get babes, then you're never going to make it.

Getting babes has nothing to do with drawing. People get babes without drawing all the time. And there's plenty of people who draw and don't get babes. The skills are completely unrelated.

IF you want to draw, then practice drawing. If you want to get babes then practice getting babes. But don't learn to draw to get babes, and don't learn to get babes, to draw. IT doesn't work like that.
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Just draw in public. A surprising amount of people come up to me and try to start conversation.

It works specially well with little girls :')
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>>2843499
be my friend
wish i had more monster to post but I wiped my comp
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>>2843505
>draw in public
>not a single person comes up to me and try to start a conversation
Yeah, I don't think it works.
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>>2843505
I was sketching wolves and deer in the game reserve and 2 kids came up and chatted about wolves and hunting, and whatnot.
I spilled sphagetti everywhere
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>>2843510
Maybe it's where you live?
I'm not american.
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>>2843512
Is there a difference? Do people just bug you more in other countries?
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>>2843513
Even in my own country. People tend to talk more if it is in a white upper class area, with cultural attractions like museums or zoos.
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>>2843518
Right, white people. Now I realize why no one comes to talk to me.
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>>2843520
Don't worry anon, I'd come talk to a nigga with a sketchbook
Only if your drawing was good though
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>>2838305
t-t-trans?
or are you memeing me friend
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>>2843505
>Just draw in public
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>>2838178
https://youtu.be/WvVlvLvQaU4

Like this
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>>2843490
>>2843499
>>2843506
monster guys are great. I like em.
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>>2844173
>This pic.

Is this what I think it is?
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>>2843490
>>2843499
>>2844173
Confirming as well, monster guys rock.

>>2843501
Considering he's a snake, probably sheathed.
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>>2841230
Why?
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Hi anon
I love creating art, and also love artists. Im thoroughly impressed when I see artists with a strongly developed, personal style. It literally does not matter what it is, what the colors are, or how its been done fundamentally. I want to see your soul in your art. I want to see your expression. Express your emotions, tell your stories, show me what youre really made of.
Good luck pony
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>>2837336
Don't headlights normally turn with the front wheel?
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>>2844682
>monster guys
>posts something that still looks practically human
Get out of here with your pleb shit.
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>>2836622
>do you girls like the idea that one day a guy will draw you
me personaly, nah, please no
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>>2845828
>insect like features
GOD yes please
btw do we have a thread on /y/ going on? we should
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>>2845828
>>2846034
You people scare me
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>>2838305
FUCK YOU SHE ISN'T TRANS YOU FUCKING NIGGER
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gonna red pill all you dweebs on this shit

girls don't care what you do, as long as you're attractive,masculine, confident, and successful

see andrew domachowski to get an idea of a guy who gets laid regularly and does art

even if he drew MLP fanart he's still be getting laid and girls would find it "cute "

if he was a scrawny unconfident guy who lived in his mom's basement and made zero money and had zits everywhere then he'd suddenly be a creep
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Know what to paint?

Girls like girls. painted like girls.
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>>2846633
>>2836595
if they are younger than 25 they usually like 'angel wings' drawings, portrait sketches, tattoo related stuff like pic

i remember not so long ago a girl in college that saw me drawing came to me out of nowhere and just started showing me some of the drawings his bf had made for her.
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All I've seen from this thread is "Girls like everything/anything".
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/ic/ bros I need help. I posted this as its own thread but it got deleted, rightfully so, should've just posted it here:

I need some help in getting a girl to like me. There's this absolutely beautiful person I know, we have never talked (have a few mutual friends). I need to form an intimate emotional connection with her. I've formulated a plan to get to know her:

Basically, I'll come up to her, say "hey, how's it going, etc etc, you're really pretty, can I draw a portrait of you?" (or something like that) then I'll show her my best graphite portraits in my sketchbook. Then if she agrees, I'll have her sit in front of me for 3-4 hours and make an amazing drawing of her, better than anything I've ever drawn before. While I'm drawing, I'll also converse with her, ask her about her interests, hobbies, and so on (I already have some idea of her personality, what music she likes, etc). This way we'll get to know each other better and I'll give her an excellent portrait at the end that she will hopefully like.

Is this a good plan? Do you think a girl would readily agree to being drawn by a semi-random person (not ugly, but a little autistic when getting to know people at first), if he's good enough? Who should I study to enhance my portrait skills? Is drawing a portrait of a girl a good way to get her interested in you (romantically or not) and want to talk to you more? I really need some help here, this is important for me. Thanks in advance
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>>2848246
nice plan, what could go wrong?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eRCNeBjrFuc
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>>2836596

But I'm a girl and hate those

>>2836600
is right about cute stuff, all girls like cute stuff without fail
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>>2847754
They dont particulary care about industrial concept art in general
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>>2848266
My eyes.
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>>2848246
She's gonna feel so awkward believe me
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>>2848246
post werk
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>>2848338
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>>2836595
Strange. I was under the impression we where mostly gay dudes.
Learn something new every day I guess.
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>>2848246
Lmao I'm a girl and this is is so lame sorry

My bf snatched me by being an overconfident badass who has a dgaf attitude and beautiful muscles that i love to draw and caress

Art isn't going to get you laid lmao
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>>2848421
post hands faggot, with timestamp
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>>2848266
Even though everything is so autistic, the dance was pretty good. i'm shit at dancing tho.
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>>2838219
how do you feel about paintings of strong veiny cocks?
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>>2848246
I asked a random girl once at a flea market.
Turns out she was some fotomodel already and i didnt contact her after that..
A-at least i have a good eye for spotting qts
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>>2836595
I'm a girl and i'm only attracted by the likes of this.
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>>2848266
I am nowhere near autistic as that kid though. And she will probably like my work.

>>2848338
I-I'm too shy to post work... but it's stuff that normies like, realistic portraits/still lifes/figure drawings etc. It's not "good" (because it's unimaginative and uncreative), but I've gotten plenty of compliments.

>>2848334
What if I just engage her normally, and ask her about the portrait after spending a few weeks as her acquaintance?
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>>2848246
>I'll have her sit in front of me for 3-4 hours and make an amazing drawing of her
It may work, but that's if she liked you anyway. If there's no chemistry, but she ends up liking your drawing, then she'll take it and leave with it. She certainly won't fuck you. And then there's a chance that those will just be awkward few hours, which is not that unlikely seeing as you're autistic and will try to make small talk with her.

It's too much effort for little gain.

This is how "nice guys" are born. You do nice things for a certain girl, but she doesn't give you a blowjob back because there's just no chemistry between you and then you go on to complain on the internet how girls don't like nice guys.
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>>2848246
>There's this absolutely beautiful person
You do not know her.
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>>2849279
>Turns out she was some fotomodel already
This day and age every 7 and above is some kind of fotomodel. So you have meh eye for spotting qts.
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>>2849692
I don't want a relationship immediately. I just want her to like me, and be interested in me. The love stuff can come way later, I just need her friendship at the moment. Also no worries desu, I'm not so autistic that I'll fail at small talk. I know we have shared interests, so we'd have plenty to talk about.

Maybe I'll get a bit familiar with her the normal way first - it would be harder for me however - and then try my master plan. How do you know when a chick actually likes you though? Not necessarily as a potential romantic partner, but as a male friend that she'd like to be around. pls give wisdom

>>2849738
True senpai, but I mean in terms of looks. I have to talk to her to know what she's like, though I do have a vague idea already.
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>>2848246
>>2849645
>>2849778
>I've formulated a plan

If you need a "plan" to get a girl, you ain't gonna make it.
You're definitely overthinking this senpai.
Just talk to her naturally and get to know her without forcing it (I've never done this but the word on the street is to "just be yourself")
Keep your portrait idea in the back of your mind though. Might be a good idea when you already know each other somewhat.
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>>2849778
>I mean in terms of looks
I see. But next time, to clarify that you talking only about looks you can say beautiful girl/woman/guy/giraffe instead of person. Cause it usually implies personality.

Wish you luck, yet I do not belive you have a shread of chance with such "nice guy" shy romantical attitude. But what do I know, right?
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>>2849778
Just let her know that you're interested right away, there's hardly such a thing as romance "way later"- trying to be friends with a girl and not making it obvious that you like her is a bad recipe, also a little awkward to ask a friend to pose for you for hours IMO. Be direct with your intentions. You don't have to say "wansumfuck?" but be clear that you think she's beautiful and want to get to know her better.

You know a girl likes you when they let their guard down and laugh a lot, it's a chemistry thing. Leonardo was asked by the Kate to draw her like one of his French girls after they had really heavy sexual tension and shit, remember? Try to let it happen naturally. That's my shitty advice to you senpai good luck
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>>2848246
Real life people are pretty good at sensing secondary intentions, so before you convince her, you have to convince yourself that you're not plotting some titanic-like drawing bullshit on her. Only when your intentions are genuine will your actions feel natural.

Talk to her casually and maybe bring up that she has really unusual cheekbones or chiseled facial structure and that you draw a little.
If she senses that she's doing exactly what you want her to do instead of following her own free will, you'll fail. Also, 3-4 hours maybe if you've been dating for a year. If you barely know her, 1 hour is probably all she'll be willing to offer.
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>>2848246
I can tell you what I told in the other thread, from a female perspective.
If you want to impress her with your art, bring it up in a casual conversation. Like a coffee date or something. DO NOT ask her to pose for you for hours holy shit it is one of the worst date ideas I could imagine being on, not only is it creepy but uncomfortable.
Do not put her on a piedestal. She is just as human as you are (maybe a lot less autistic).
Obsession is very unattractive, and puts a woman in a position where she controlls everything, there's no mistery, she already won.
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>>2849883
How does one exert dominance over the woman
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>>2849883
*uncomfortable
I mean sitting for 4 hours, she has no means of ending the date (aw shit I have to wait until he finishes), it is physicaly uncomfortable, sitting for that long. The talkign would not go smoothly as she would get nervous not to fuck up your drawing by moving.
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>>2849885
I'm not talking about dominance, I'm talking more about a mistery, a certain distance.
Women dig guys with a backstory. If your defining trait is your obsession with her she has this big red button she can destroy you with.
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>>2849811
>>2849791
>>2849829
>>2849848
>>2849891
Thanks bros, gonna try my best. I will revise my master plan and make it less cringeworthy. Even if I fuck up, what's the worst that would happen?
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>>2841233
probably works on other things with a group.
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>>2850098
ridicule from family and friends, if not ostracized by mutual friend?
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>>2849883
>she already won.
> won.
Do you think relationships is a motherfucking game?

Dumb cunts. Use and abuse. This is the language they speak. Two can play this game.
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>>2850115
Nice way to be a dick. Congratulations!
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>>2850123
>autism
>can't read context

Read it again.
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>>2850129
I mean, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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>>2836595
girls like self confidence has nothing to do with anything else.
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>>2850123
Courtship is a kind of game.
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>>2850153
Do not get philosophical with me.
Everything is some kind of a game.
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>>2836595
In my experience malldrawing over the course of a year, you should focus on subjects with eastern interest because Asians will approach you far more often than westerners. That goes for all ages. It doesn't hurt to know something about manga.

Cultivate reference photos that aren't too offensive, if possible. Find full length figures in action. Women enjoy seeing street fashion-oriented drawings as well.
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>>2850256
And I believe we are playing it right now ;^)
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If you want girls then I suggest getting rich, famous and good looking

97% of girls don't give a shit about art
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>>2850558
>97% of girls don't give a shit about art
Which is the point, only like 1% of guys will make it in art.
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>>2850555
Oh, you little pesky brat!
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Where are all you art guys hiding?
I want a qt art bf, but I only ever see girls drawing
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>>2850789
Cause girls desperately need other people and attention in everything they do. Man are more comfortable focusing on activity itself and if needed, solitude. There are many exceptions to this Rule
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>>2850793
how about you shove a metal pole up your asshole you autistic little cuckboy
honestly humanity would be better off if you pathetic, whiny little faggots would die out.
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>>2850799
Sounds like it is you the one with pole up you ass, judging by amount of your anal pain
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>>2850793
>implying that artfags dont desperately need attention in everything they do
>which is why most of /ic/ is here in the first place
>getting female approval and pussy is literally the whole point of this thread
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>>2850115
I can handle it desu. Gotta take risks in life, right?
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>>2850789
I found my hot art bf at artschool.
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>>2851149
You can do it, i'm sure. Just keep calm and fluid, and be sure to actually go through with it, before the anxiety of not asking kills you, but I'm sure you already know that.
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>>2851162
>implying there are any hot guys at art school
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>>2849290
in those dreamy eyes you can see the reflections of a thousand well painted dragons
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>>2850789
We're inside except from Brian, you can find him in the coffee shop he got banned from
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>>2853350
I know you go out Nosey, no need to be shy.
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>>2853350
>you can find him in the coffee shop he got banned from
What's story behind this
>>
Being this blind to the development of the industry.
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>>2853356
Explain
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>>2836595
Its one of the best drawing i ever seen
Maybe because alterhacker is best looking women i ever saw in my life...
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>>2853394
Who's second best looking?
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>>2853396
I know some girls irl that are amazing, but i dont want to post their pictures here, from "internet" Sasha blonde
For me face is most important thing in women for first look, i dont really care about boobs or ass like most people, eyes are important too
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>>2853413
I've been looking for people with good faces so I can do better portraits.
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>>2853416
Felicity Jones?
You can go to Poppy on YouTube, she have pretty race for me too
There is one question, do you want to draw face with makeup, or better without?
Well everybody have other preferences about faces, you can go to 4chan /s/, /hr/, you may find perfect things there

There is also porn category: face that is (ofc) focusing about face, not nudity, but problem is theres a lot of photoshoped or hard makeuped girls, if you are lucky you can hit jackpot and find good material to improve your art
In internet there is a shitton of material that can help you, like Instagram, but theres a lot of attention whores, so research can take some time
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>>2853444
If theres any mistakes in word, sorry, autocorekt is my biggest enemy and my biggest friend
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>>2836614
idk if it's /ic/ getting to me but all I see are womanly features on this "man". Would make an excellent trap or crossdresser.

no homo but I want to fuck his hole.
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>>2838537
>Well aren't you just a pocket full of firecrackers.
this is the next phase of irony
>>
Girls are attracted to realism as fp said. It's because they want a man who will paint beautiful portraits of her and see her beautiful qualities brought out by someone who loves her and sees only the beautiful about her. She wants someone strong and in touch with himself and willing to show her who he sees when she filters her through his own heart and his own talents.
She wants to know that you're strong and amazing and that it's all for her.
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>almost valentines
>still no qt3.14 animator kinuko gf
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>>2853992
What? The lead animator at Skull Girls is a girl?!
What?! But for reals, I thought this thread said to never date an artist.
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>>2853994
A good rule of thumb is if you're an artist, don't date another artist. Or at least someone who does similar stuff as you. Exception is if you can collab with that person and work well together as a team.
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>>2853951
or maybe instead of drawing an hour a day you could fucking lift you retard.
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>>2854014
drawing is my lifting you faggot
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>>2854017
well fuck off then you're not making yourself any richer or prettier. Just settle down for a fat chick and stop feeding her like the rest of the losers
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>>2854027
You know how women get when they're hungry. That ain't no easy thing.
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>>2854014
lmao

you lift, nosebro?
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>>2854030
Gotta do something while not improving
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>>2854034
holy shit how will i ever recover lmao nice one
>>2854030
My father gave me some weights like 2 years back and told me he'd disown me if i wasn't stronk in 6 months. To answer your question, I'm "skinny fit" at best. My moozclez look okay in 3/4 view and have the adonis belt. To answer your literal question, barely 15m/day average.
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>>2854042
What a weird family
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>>2854042
>My father gave me some weights like 2 years back and told me he'd disown me if i wasn't stronk in 6 months

Good for your father. If my son wasn't swole and resorted to being a keyboard jockey I'd disown him too.

btw take pic of said adonis belt. I need it for reference of course.
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>>2836603
I'm an 18 year girl and I love anime.
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>>2854054
So how do I make a move now
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>>2854046
lol kys fag you can see it while sucking my dick. Plenty of skinny fags have ado belts anyway
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>>2854054
*18 year old

>>2854055
I'm sorry, but I'm black and I don't think I'm in your taste.
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>>2854057
>I-I was just kidding! P-please don't ask again.
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>>2854063
Nobody cares about skin color faggot. It's all about how the features look and are placed.
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>>2854063
Makes me think really. Are there South African Artists on /ic/?
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>>2854057
>finally, sexually harassing nosebro over the internet has paid off!

aight lets do it
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>>2854087
>finally getting sexually harassed
>by men
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>>2854081
>Faggot
How did you know that I was bisexual?

>>2854082
I wouldn't know. I was born in America.
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>>2854094
Na bro I call girls faggot because im a feminist
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The posts here kind of scare me. As a girl, do I have any chances of making it in the industry? I like drawing mostly ''dude'' stuff (robots, vehicles, fight scenes, etc) but I sometimes feel like my gender is a hindrance biologically and that no one will take me seriously. Maybe I should hide my gender when I start posting on social media?
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>>2854117
Girls have the highest chance of making it in the industry. There's so few of them that everyone wants one. At the end of the day, if you're good, you're good, but if you're a girl, they'll probably take you over the guy.
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>>2854117
girls are more likely to draw but less likely to put in hermit levels of effort. If anything being a girl will help you kind of like being a girl programmer is a free scholarship because of quotas
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>>2854118
The fact that being a girl raises my chances is comforting but at the same time makes me angry. I just want people to hire me because I'm good, not because of my gender. It just feels wrong and unfair.
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>>2854119
>girls are more likely to draw but less likely to put in hermit levels of effort.
This bothered the hell out of me when I finally took a drawing class. It made so much sense that girls would be good because they can do artsy shit with no problem.
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>>2854122
if it makes you feel any better I think your ugly and your art is bad
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>>2854128
I agree.
Btw, do you guys think people knowing your gender in social media (as an artist) makes a difference? Or do people just not give a fuck?
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>>2854130
It makes a difference depending on what you draw. I have never seen a female artist draw what guys do for example and vice versa. There's other factors too, but really if do amazing work, it wouldn't matter much.
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>>2854117
>The posts here kind of scare me. As a girl, do I have any chances of making it in the industry?

Up to you. You're the one with the power over your destiny.

>sometimes feel like my gender is a hindrance biologically

What do you mean? Period pains? If you have debilitating menstrual pain where you have to take several days off work, that's not normal. Go see a doctor. When it comes to having children, that's another story... most famous people in history were childless, celibates, or gay for a reason. Even men get bogged down with responsibilities and have to stop following their dreams if they have mouths to feed. This is likely the biggest reason why there are less women written into history than men, not because of deliberate oppression.

>no one will take me seriously.

Respect is something you command. If you don't take yourself seriously, then no one else will. In my experience as a woman, a lot of people won't assume that I have a special skill until I show them, but they don't question me or try to pull me down unless they're insecure failures themselves (crab bucket mentality from both males and females). The crab bucket people... eliminate them asap. Chances are they do that to others as well and it's easy to gang up on them.

Getting challenged is just life, not a uniquely female experience. I've seen males get questioned by others, especially by other men. A gift of being a woman is that the vast majority of men won't try to one-up on you, and in my experience, most men cooperate instead of nitpicking at everything I do like how they do to other guys.

>Maybe I should hide my gender when I start posting on social media?

Doesn't matter. Stay on topic (art), don't whine, avoid politics, and you'll be fine. Just don't act like cyarin.

Another thing: I don't challenge men or try to one up them (I don't do that with women either). I also am not "one of the boys" type nor try to be. Why should I?
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>>2854144
By biologically, besides what you said, I meant that I have this deep down fear that women are doomed to never be as good as men. Kind of like an inferiority complex.I know it's stupid and that my art skills don't have anything to do with me being a woman, but it's just that I see most succesful female artists always drawing shit that I find boring (Cute girls in outfits, cute animals, you get the drill). Every artist whose work I love is always male.
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>>2854144
>>2854157
And I forgot to say, thank you very much for the advice.
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>>2854157
what's holding girls back is the MENtality not the MENstruations
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>>2854182
That was a good one, nosey, where did you steal it from?
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>>2854183
Its an original, but it was partially ( or perhaps retroactively can be said to have been) inspired by a feminist post saying everything bad started with men though I can't remember the other examples or the counter joke some guy made.

I just wanted to really convey that being a girl doesn't make you lesser.
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>>2854157

Surround yourself with other female artists who share similar subject matters as you, and look at a lot of other women who draw what you like. Don't be afraid to reach out to people.

>succesful female artists

Consider the age group that these "successful female artists" are in. For example, the female artists online that /ic/ likes to troll are in their teens/20's who also act stupid (since they're young), while the male artists that /ic/ praises are top professionals in their 30's to 50's who have been working for decades. It's not even a comparison. And let's be honest, the type of shit young male artists draw aren't good either lol. Sorry guys, but the Sturgeon's law is real.

If you look at female artists in their 30's and 40's, they're not drawing cutesy shit. Also a lot of female concept artists are automatically assumed to be male and fly under your radar, making them seem even rarer than they are.

>I know it's stupid and that my art skills don't have anything to do with me being a woman

If you have an inferiority complex, don't brush it off as being stupid. You got it somehow, somewhere, for a reason. Instead of ignoring it, reflect on it. Where did you get it from? Why? A lot of times views about gender comes from our upbringing. I had incredibly shitty parents myself, but I was fortunate enough to have a lot of good female teachers (and male too) who were very smart and capable.

Your thoughts about gender doesn't just affect how you see yourself as an artist, but how you see yourself as a whole. So surround yourself with other mature, capable, and intelligent women even though they're not artists. It helps.

>Every artist whose work I love is always male.

and you know what? That's totally fine. When a black composer who loves classical music realizes that all his favorite classical composers are dead white men, what does he do? He just keeps composing music.
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>>2854192
I cant find the one i had enjoyed, all the ones i see online are lame and unfunny. One of the other examples was menopause.
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>>2854182
oh nosebro your sense of your humor makes me want to harass you even more

so when are you gonna post your ado belt
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>>2854195
Honestly, it's weird. I grew up with a hardworking mother who is an incredibly talented teacher who kept working until the last day of pregnancy, while my dad got unemployed and started spending all day in bed while my mom made the housework. I probably have a certain disdain towards females because my sister, while being a good person, has been given everything in a silver plate because of her beauty. And the general lack of camaraderie and bitchiness between my female friends didnt help either.

Just realizing that not everything is as black and white as I imagined though, so you're right. I'll keep working hard.
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>>2854199
It's a weird request but sure i guess... This is the belt i used throughout highschool
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>>2854209

A lot of people have siblings who seem to be treated better and have had immature bickering friends... but:

>kept working until the last day of pregnancy, while my dad got unemployed and started spending all day in bed while my mom made the housework

This is not surprising. Being a strong woman doesn't mean picking up the slack of others or bearing the brunt of everything because her man isn't doing his part as husband and father. What you saw wasn't an independent capable woman who can do it all, but a woman being stepped all over. A woman who was allowing cruelty (yes neglecting is a type of mistreatment) from the man who vowed to love and protect and cherish her.

We women teach men how to treat us, and we accept the love we think we deserve. Not to play therapist since I don't know your life story, but I know that no child should see their pregnant mother accept that type of bullshit, and your father was pretty much nonexistent as either husband nor father.

I don't know if anyone brought to your attention anything like this, and I am just another anon on 4chan, but I've seen some stuff in my life.
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>>2854250
what stuff have you seen?
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>>2854254
>what stuff have you seen?

something like this >>2854216
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>>2853346
if trips i will be bettrr than ruan in 4 years
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>>2854117
are you kidding me?
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
how as a girl do you have less chances?
if something you have more you fucking girl you
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>>2854300
8 years it is then
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>>2854117
you don't need to make being a girl a big thing if you're not going the attention seeking sakimi chan / loish type route

there's plenty of good ic artists who are secretly girls, and pros like jungah lee too who kept it quiet
http://jungahlee.deviantart.com/gallery/

git gud and make what you want to make, gender really isn't an issue for art jobs
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>>2854250
You do make a good point. I never understood why my mother was the one doing everything, and when I was always given the same answer "Things were different back then, honey." Anyways, thanks for listening to me, anon, I really appreciate it. And I would be interested in hearing what stuff you've seen. You seem like a really cool person.

>>2854578
>you don't need to make being a girl a big thing if you're not going the attention seeking sakimi chan / loish type route

I don't like attention and would rather hide behind an alias/nickname/whatever, so that won't be a problem.

By the way, I've checked Jungah Lee's work and it's fucking awesome, so thanks for that, anon! She might be the first female artist whose style I like.
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>>2854254
>>2854944
>what stuff you've seen

What I've seen is the amount of bullshit people put up with just to not be alone, to follow some formula that they could care less about, or to hold onto pipe dreams instead of looking at the person in front of them for what he (or she) really is. So many people who seem to have their shit together on the surface actually go home to really bad situations. I've seen people marry someone they don't even like. I've seen people get beaten, cheat on eachother, and still stick around with their cheating spouses because they think they can't do any better or because they don't want to lose their image. I've seen people pop out unwanted kids just for the sake of getting another milestone checked off the to-do list and then drop them off with nannies and never bother to spend time with them.

So yeah when I read your post it had that familiar stench to it even though I don't know your life story.

The biggest losers of it all are the children. We get the shit end of the stick. And then the kids repeat the cycle unless we realize we deserve better.
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>>2855135
I'll adopt you if you're still a kid bud <3
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