Progress Thread

>xdd i maek ic shit on dis person so fanny lel xddd
sage, kill yourself.

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>>2834926
nah I'm serious, It's my own drawing :D

I think It'd be a decent topic, I'd be glad to see other "anons" share their progress in such a way.

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>>2834911
Line work + some values, same character

>>2835076
do you have a blog? loving your style!

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The first one makes me cringe o lord

>>2835079 #
Thank you anon, I post most of my stuff here:

Firez-tbr.tumblr.com

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>>2835147
this one of yours makes my dick diamonds

>>2835153
what reference did you use for this?

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>>2835108
This is a progress thread

>>2835153
that leg and foot

girlslaughing.jpg

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>Draw 1 hour a day everyday, but never apply anything outside of studying
>Really just want to draw cartoons, but don't know where to begin
>Don't know what I want to draw, but studying how to draw people in the hope it will make me good at drawing comic books/cute girl cartoons.

>>2835226
Go to a place which likes most if not all art and will give attention, deviantart for example. Even though it's a hug box, you don't want to get shot down while still a beginner. Just remember to not stop drawing, and once you feel like your good enough post your art in more places.

>>2835226
>Really just want to draw cartoons
then draw cartoons
in addition to the studies you are already doing
wht you want to draw should always be your main focus, and studies are meant to aid in achieving that

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Something I made for my Amazonian Goddess

>>2835399
Hope u don't try to pass this off as your OC. It's Witchblade with blonde hair.

>>2835962
this is an amazing progress my dude but we need to know the date of the drawings? like when are the first drawings from?

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>>2835962
>joseph

>>2836301
oops
first layer there is 2013 then 2014, 2015, and 2016

>>2835962
There is an improvement, but as it seems with many artists I've seen in these threads. Your poses go from dynamic to stiff, from action poses to standing at the viewer staring.

I'm not sure if it's just using tutorials that make you draw a straight af figure with 8 heads as the length blah blah blah, or something else. It sure seems like you/they are having the organic feel sucked out as you progress down a path of books and rulers. REMEMBER, it's important to use the fundamentals as a tool to create what's in your minds eye, not just to copy, copy, copy! I mean unless that's what you want to do...

>>2836384
>>2836394
Sorry I didn't see the rest. Great improvement!!!

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first year

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Haven't looked back on my old work in a while, this is really weird for me
(no cherrypicking, all of it looked like that left pic)

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Everybody hated this for some reason.

>>2836837
The light mood you had on the left was better. The new one is all bold and dark and the shadows you added feel weird to look at because it's like you want detail but at the same time are trying to simplify it while the left one is just straight up simplified, so it's no problem.

>>2836839
Yeah I have to work hard on my coloring, I'm thinking on using different programs with lineart and coloring, so I can have more brushes and tools in order to add a coloring that fits well with my lineart (I'm currently using Sai), anyway, Thanks for your honest opinion m8.

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Left was ~8 months ago and the right was a couple days ago still got a ways to go

>>2836642
hi vetyr~

>>2836837
>>2836588
>>2835967
>>2835108
>>2835076
>>2836911

nice progress! so great to see everyone's improved noticeably

>>2836911
A LOOOOOOOONG way to go

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2010-2017

>>2837339
niiiiiice

>>2837339
Brad Rigney?

>>2837339
>>2837467
no
https://www.artstation.com/artist/wagadumbum

>>2837339
this is fuckin nice anon

>>2837555
Thanks anon

>>2837339
Does it really take seven years for that much progress? Cause the 1st drawing is kinda OK... that really took 6 years?

I should just kill myself right now cause I can't even do the 1st drawing. So if that's the norm then I'm lookin at close to 8+ yrs for that kinda progress

>>2837763
Of course not. first one from high school prolly math class as a hobby and to pass the time.
Its been 2 years i decided to take things seriously and in that 2 years i did not do my best. so if you are a hard working, disciplined person why not anon

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>>2837777
holy quads of truth(maybe)

is that 2010-2017 your work? how many hrs you put in daily and how many do you want to put in?

>>2837782
I try to paint every day. Lately, i do not have much time. But i remember painting 12-15 hours last year for like six months i slowed down a little bit after that

>>2838257
Bruh keep at it you've basically made it. Rendering is solid and color choices are decent(could be stronger IMO) but for 7 years you made it a lot farther than coffee cup guy

I don't see any progress on most of the pics ITT. Skill grows, while art quality stays the same. Talented people remain talented >>2835966, plain ones remain plain >>2837339.

Why is it always the same dozen people posting their pictures and shit flinging at each other

>>2838786
You mean taste?

>>2834911
its okay but 6 years for this is very slow.

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>>2839377

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Behold slow progress.

>>2838786
One of them have more dynamic pose in perspective. That's it.

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aight. the oldest ive got on hd (walker, early 2016 or dec 2015) and the newest, about 3 weeks ago.

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Looking at this guy's progress always motivates and inspires me.

>>2840275
delet this.jpg

>>2840275
>tfw has his own style and everything
>doesn't do full time with his art
I sometimes wonder what it takes to make it

>>2840275
i don't know man, one would've thought he'd learn to draw faces after 9 years

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>>2834911
updated mine

>>2840329
you should do your "own stuff" as well as studies
otherwise art will turn into a chore and before long you have conditioned your brain to only think in the "normal" way and you are no longer creative

that's why there are so many artists but so few art around, don't train your brain to mediocrity please

>>2840342
i do, i did not put them here because they are not this linear in time, some of them are longer projects and/or collaborations, also i have tons of unfinished stuff which i just abandoned because i realized i did not have the skillset yet to pull them off, and stuff that i come back to from time to time and change/improve according to my new knowledges

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2yrs progress this chick got gud

>>2840299
I do work as an artist full time though

>>2839380
I don't understand.

>>2840365
Are you the guy who draws the giant lolis crushing cities? Your art is good, I've fapped to it multiple times.

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At the time, 2015, I really struggled to rendering my symbols.

>>2840565
Yeah. Also thank you, I've been feeling in a super slump lately though.

>>2840365
Really? How did you get into such a position?

>>2841112
Same way anyone else did I guess, I worked my ass off to git gud for the 3 month probation though.

I am afraid to make a new one and post since I've posted mine in every one of these threads so far D :, feels like shillling

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instead of drawing I added an info graphic... trying to kick myself into starting again. As it turns out I really do hate programming in my spare time - I'd much rather draw something.

>>2841385
wrow that's some amazing improvement! how did you get so good at mechs, any tips?

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Still cringe worthy

>>2842301
Girl proportions on the left are better, anon

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First time posting on /ic/ here, long time lurker
honestly I dont know where the fuck I'm going
I feel pretty mediocre myself, I went digital when I got a tablet and fooled around in photoshop since as a hobby

>>2840275
look at that man
He remained faithful to his fetish no matter what
I'm proud

>>2842301
you got worse at gesture

>>2842344
you stopped progressing four years ago

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>>2834911
>>Samefacing this much.
Anon, you can draw exactly 2 faces. Get off this board

>>2834935
Idk if you're still here
But work on your hard edges. Remember cast shadows are hard, form shadows are soft.
70% soft 30%sharp too is a good goal because it gives you a focal point.

>>2843540
What I see here is 8 completely different and interesting characters with relatively different styles. Only issue here is you're not consistent anon.. Great job otherwise!
What time period are these taken from? They seem very different.

>>2841394
>mechs
It probably helps that I'm obsessed with robotics and all things related to robots. It means that I take extra care when drawing them. On the contrary, I hate people, and I never look anybody in the eye so I'm terrible at faces and figures.

General Mech tips
>build lots of Gundams models to familiarize yourself with joint anatomy and panel details
>70% panels 30% exposed mechanics
>practice gesture and figure drawing to get a sense of weight and keep your mechs from looking stiff

>>2843552
I think the problem is the opposite. He relies a bit too much on two different head angles and a neutral expression. That's easy to remedy though.

>>2843648
Didn't you say you were gonna stop drawing a while back?

>>2843653
Yea, I essentially stopped. I've drawn like 4 times since inktober.

I used to draw to fill the void, but work has become more interesting so I haven't been itching to draw as much. I'm getting jealous watching anon's progress so I'll probably start up again.

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Got a ways to go but I'm happy to be out of kawaii-eyes land.

>>2843674
Please tell me you had a long break between those two images. Becuase otherwise...well. I pray for you.

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I'm planning on making a new full image later as a test.
But's here's a taste of a mini render of a part of this guy's face while I was doodling.

Shamefully, haven read any sticky-ickys yet besides clicking through a few so I'm definitely moving slow for 2 years, talent and sheer hours are carrying me.

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>>2843540
You literally took all my digital stuff to do that?
These are made in the range of 3-4 years, and don't include any sketches and studies I've made meanwhile. Also are character concepts. You don't go wild with such as its not required..
>>2843543
Aye will look into that. I need to spend more time rendering. Drawing in the first post took me 4 hours total, and that includes 2 hours of dunno wtf I'm doing and messing around with ideas


Also muh ligameme. How is that supposed to help me? Is it just meme? I've got 3 tendons in both wrists.

>>2841385
Godspeed tableguy. I still check your tumblr every few days.

>>2842344
i'm sorry to say this, but seriously, it's time to stop. You're not progressing, you're getting worse.

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I don't know if it's on-topic or not but I really need this.

Does anyone know where to get the proko anatomy, portrait and figure drawing courses (torrents etc) without paying for them?
My job pays less a month than what he's asking for.

>>2842344
Try challenging yourself more so increase your progress

>>2835226
Draw what you want first, even if you suck at it.
Then study the things that were wrong with your drawing afterwards.

>>2843844
His free lessons cover all the major things, the extra you pay for is merely smaller details, you gives you a little extra, but it is not something you need.

>>2843844
what can proko teach you, he cant even draw from imagination
>>HAHAHAHHAHAHAH

>>2843833
Git gud with what god's given ya, You can make in anonkun!
Start a youtube channel, or a decent blog page. Leave DA and never return to that shithole

>>2843903
Yes, laugh at someone who has the desire to learn.
That's like fatshaming someone who goes to the gym to lose fat.
Very impressive.

>>2840342
I did this to myself after getting depressed - it's extremely hard to snap out of...

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Well, at least I learned how to do colors that aren't eyeburning.

>>2844035
It looks like you regressed or just made an alternative style decision cus I like the 2014 version a lot more personally

>>2834911
>6 years

wew lad

>>2844035
...I don't get it. Your first one is much more polished and has very good techniques while the second one has better use of colors. It's like you went in two directions at the same time.

>>2844035

2014 is better anon. Even the color could be fixed easily, it's not enough of a change to make a fuss over. The gesture, flow composition and stuff really fell off, and it looks like you took up a tumblr-esque cartoony style. Neither are terrible, just a really weird change.

What I notice about this progress thread is you can really tell the artist inspiration or what they probably like from other artist. Like their weaknesses show off that they're not following off of other artist that have strong composition, flow, style, or perspective, but instead just nice renders (or maybe just not taking that into consideration). So many of these could be incredible if they really worked with the perspective/flow, to get some neat dynamic images. I love these types of threads though, keep working hard.

>>2840275 is probably my favorite as far as all around skill and quality goes, everything in the images comes together and generally gives something, even though I'm not super fond of the faces/expressions

>>2844035
this is great. keep going anon

>>2844111
>technique
blending everything to shit and then using a shitty overlay filter does not make

>>2834935
the moment you started adding values is when it went to shit

>>2836837
i mean, it's still shit

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>>2840632
jesus christ

>>2843674
Seven years?

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>oldest pictures I have saved are from half a year ago

fugg

but I did make a tiny bit of progress by cutting off coloring and focusing more on drawing better; faces look less dumb (it's more noticeable in my studies of realistic faces but I have a bad habit of deleting them).
I'm also getting out of my comfort zone by drawing random shit like cars etc.

I'm glad I don't have a job in art or else I'd be fucked.

>>2840632
Jorge?

>>2838257
You mean to tell me you do this in your freetime?

>>2844111
Very good techniques? Are you kidding me man? You gotta be pretty amateur to think that. Those shitty-ass lines, that wonky anatomy, that formless random blending, those dumpy proportions, that random shading on the metal bits, that lazy overlay filter like the other anon said...That is not good technique. Just look at Sonic's eyes in the old one. The new one is a lot tighter, has better colors, and more energy. The characters look a lot more appealing. I seriously can't believe anybody is saying the old one is better.

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Welp, its been a year

>>2841385
You also program? I find that interesting I never see artists or programmers that can actually do both.

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Working on art for the newest iteration of the Tower Girls thread. I just realized these are the only pictures I save over the course of any given year. I suppose I should do more completed drawings, as disappointing as they usually end up being.

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4 years later and color is still a fucking mistery for me.

>>2834911
The people that run this board are only 8 nursed either in your robotic opting of there poor sketches or the ruination of anything that might be what you
A tuallt think or feel


Or a truth through art


They're not worthy of a single ink drop


Stay away from them

>>2844762
you've gotten worse judging by this

>>2834911
>6 Years for that
>>2835076
Decent, keep on going
>>2835108
You make me weep with your lack of progress
>>2835962
>>2835966
>>2835967
Not sure about the time peroid but there is definetely progress. Keep it on man.
>>2836588
Nice
>>2836642
Good but whats up with those horrible effects on the drawing ruining everything?
>>2836837
Because some things got better and some things got worse. So you went nowhere
>>2836911
Absolutely nothing happened in those 8 months?
>>2837339
Good progress, still a lot to learn. Keep It will be nice seeing where you are in another 7 years
>>2839377
From garbage to garbage
>>2840329
Progress but not what I would expect from such a long time, especially since your work is very samey
>>2840632
Good man, work on your body anatomy and perspective next.
>>2841385
Nice to see you back tableguy
>>2842344
Have you ever done a study? Or asked for critique? Nothing improved in all those years.
>>2843674
This should be progress of months not years.
>>2843831
>Those drawings
>Talent
Kek.
>>2844035
At least you aren't delusional
>>2844762
Did you draw once a month?
>>2844795
Am I seeing twice?
>>2844907
Seems like nothing happened last year
>>2844998
>Color is a mystery for me
And everything else as well.

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at one point i almost had the audacity to print this and sell it to people

>>2845939
Cute! Love your style anon!

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>>2838786
I think you confused the posts.
Everything in design is thought.

A good design is a well planned one.

>>2844283
I disagree. The shading is a lot better in the 2014 picture, where the gradient emphasized the roundness of the head and body, and the shading on the metal makes it feel more like textured chrome. I like the robotic eye, too. 2014 pic looks like they put some real time in it. 2016 is like a 15 minute redraw.

>>2845989
it doesnt matter how long it took, our point is that the new one is better. the artist has improved, noticeably

>>2844762
2016: u-um, excuse me. pardon me. sorry..
2017: EYYYY IM WAWKIN HEAH

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>>2845655
It only looks that way.
I used to do stuff like this without any fundamental knowledge.

It looks way better than how I'm currently drawing, but I'm certain I'm at an intermediate stage before I return to how I used to create. I need to master the fundamentals. I was very intimidated by creating a figure out of nothing, and I believe it's showing. The pelvis was originally intended to twist in the progress picture. You can see it if you look carefully.

TL;DR
I was "good" at drawing before I picked up the fundamentals, but I was severely constrained as to what I could create, and I was merely good at concealing that constriction.

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5 glorious years of improvement

>>2846024
Bad-ass.

>>2845655
he got a better sense of space at the least, hard to judge by one image alone

>>2846024
neat

>>2844109
>>2844111
>>2844144
Can't say I agree, but you know how it is. I definitely did make some alternative style decisions in that time and I think my art was better for it. I dropped a lot of bad stylistic habits. It's weird that you think the new one is more tumblr because my style was a lot more influenced by tumblristic tendencies in 2014, while I moved further away from that in 2016.

>>2844144
You nailed it, in the 2014 one I pretty much blurred stuff randomly and used a lot of overlay layers.

>>2845989
The new one took me an hour or two. The 2014 one took me something like 6+.

>>2837535
you used to be active in the art posse aggess ago right? when it first started? i god damn remember you man

>>2845790
>Absolutely nothing happened in those 8 months?
I learned a lot about fundamentals and refining my illustration process. Though yeah, you could argue that I didn't learn a whole lot but for my first year of getting serious about art, I feel that I've improved and learned a lot and I've still got way more to learn

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>2007

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>>2846323
>2011

>>2839377
It looks like you were using Microsoft paint before but than discovered gimp.

>>2846157
Well you have a good attitude, try to post your art more often and get that critique on how to do things.

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>>2846324
>current piece

>>2846398
Is that some manga?
Are you a mangaka?

>>2846412
Ha no. But it is done with a Maru pen.

>>2843838
I'm touched, one day I'll surprise you with an update

>>2844787
>that can actually do both
I'd use the verb "do" loosely here. At work amongst my programming kin, people think I'm great at drawing. Outside of work, I'm just a filthy hobbyist at the bottom of the art world.

I'm no rockstar coder either, plenty of coworkers are much more savvy. My seniority helps my career than my technical expertise.

Basically duke of all trades master of none.

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>>2845790
>>2838971
>>2844110
6 years of drawing once every 3-4 months as hobby. Just recently I decided to start studying and really focusing on becoming good. Hence why i decided to post as all i get usually is "its great, awesome, amazing" At least I have eye to see why its shit. I need to work a lot more on anatomy specially, and the hands are utter trash. The rest is obviously shitty half assed rendering. The whole thing took me about 3 hours focused work.. At least I've got two contracts at the moment, which is why I can give a fuck on actually improving...

>>2846454
What the fuck where do I sell me some contracts??

>>2845790
Talent because I can draw like this without reading any books nor do I draw very often.

I grow just looking at images that are better than mine.

Not a gloat but if my city commissions and I've got a few contract jobs from a comic company and small mmo at ages as low as 15, It's a simply reality that I was talented when I see people train and study for years to still not be able to draw what I can; I didn't say I was a AAA studio art god as the only reason I'm on this board now is that I realize I can be better and wish to gain that status.

>>2846749
the bait is strong with this one

>>2846754
>Triggered by the world talent

Ignore that are progress images spanning 4+ years of 20+yr old anons busting their ass to get better and some 15 years olds on instagram that's never opened an anatomy book are f same skill or shitting on them.

Talent exist what are they suppose to call it, training can just get you anywhere if you invest enough into it.

>>2845790
Dumbass those "drawings" are not even 1min doodles and are smaller than my thumb so I'd know how I wanted the character to look now, the progress is the facial render.

>>2846791
>and some 15 years olds on instagram that's never opened an anatomy book are f same skill or shitting on them.

Where do you get that weird idea from? If you have good anatomy, chances are, you have opened an anatomy book or studied anatomy one way or another in the past. Talent means you learn things faster, it doesn't mean the universe is pouring knowledge into your brain while you sleep, you dumb fuck.

>>2846829
Not same anon, but untrue I had pretty good anatomy before I ever opened an anatomy book, i had decent proportions because I drew an awful lot, when I started using anatomy books it mostly help me with things beneath the skin like muscle.

>>2846791
I mostly agree but a lot of the kids who peak early got there by copying their favorite manga or western comic books. it doesn't come totally out of nowhere

>>2846813
What progress?

>>2846791
Nigger, those 15 years most likely have been drawing for 12 years.

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>>2846919
>That inadequacy detection
Cmon anon, you're better than that.

>>2846849
> I had pretty good anatomy before I ever opened an anatomy book,

That's called Dunning Kruger Syndrome. I mean, I'm not saying you have to study from anatomy books, but you have to have learnt proportions and anatomy from something if you ever were good at it. Whether that's studying from life, being observant, studying other artists or whatever, you don't magically get good at something out of thin air, that's just not how talent works.

It's very easy to prove this as well. Go ahead and draw a random animal that you've never drawn before from imagination without looking at reference. Take a careful look at that end result. This is what you call your "talent".

>>2846927
>good at something out of thin air, that's just not how talent works
No anon, that is how talent works.
Talented people typically can't tell you why they can do what they do, so it's assumed it just comes naturally to them through a similar experience or genetics.

A child with a photographic memory won't be able to tell you why he never takes notes but always does better than most the class on a test or why they draw much better than the rest of the children like that 6 year old boy that paints landscapes, that's talent.

Seems IC just get's upset with the word, it's a legitimate way for one to explain why they can do something they haven't worked at others fail to. It doesn't mean they think they're better than you so throw your syndrome memes out, they aren't indigo children blessed by god they just have a higher base aptitude towards the subject.

>>2846954
>they aren't indigo children blessed by god they just have a higher base aptitude towards the subject.

That's exactly what I'm saying you retard. Higher base aptitude means you can learn faster and understand certain concepts more easily. You still have to learn them though. My challenge still stands. If you want to prove me wrong, oh talented on, go and draw a moderately challenging animal that you've never drawn or studied from imagination without looking at references.

>>2846954
>gonefullretard.jpg

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>that symbol drawing diagrams in upper left corner
Thanks /ic/, if it wasn't for you, I'd probably still be watching Jazza now.

>>2845790
Anon, please use the general rule of thumb and don't reply to more than 3 people in a single post. It makes the thread chaotic and prevents people from tracing a reply to its original post.

I wouldn't be a dick about it if you posted constructive criticism or opinions that add value to the discussion, but this is just a waste of everyone's time.

>>2840275
what happened between 2007 and 2008 holy moly

>>2847074
Your drawing looks like you still watch Jazza.

>>2847189
Wow you're righ, thanks, I'll look out for that.

>>2847078
Loomis

>>2834911
>From WoW to Black Desert

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Don't remember what year I did the first one, but I'm pretty sure it was in high school. Found the picture in my folders and did a quick 15 minute redraw

What I hate is that they don't make the markers I used on the first one anymore. I liked the colors from those a lot better than my Prismacolors

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>>2846454
That thumb
Pic related

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Mine is two parts. How fucked am I? I feel like I haven't really progressed all that much, and lately am backsliding.

If I am honest though I have likely only produced like 100~ ish totally finished drawings/painting. Maybe 300 things total.

Given that Maybe I don't have a right to complain I don't know?

(Part two inc)

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>>2847525


>Enjoy the learning/creative process, not the result.


This is the part I struggle most with. I have a standard for myself that is too high (Given the amount of work I put in), and I know that. People keep telling me that if I just work at it then after a ~2-3 month period of being shit and hating you will get to a point where you are ok with things.

I have been drawing/painting **Off and on** for years now I still feel bad. I WANT to like the process, I WANT to be an artist, but so far everything I have made makes me feel really bad about myself.

I recently got out of digital and back into pure traditional (water color) and there are new challenges associated with that, but I am willing to try.

Just feels like things are way more of an uphill battle than they should be. If I could get myself to enjoy things more then I feel like I would want to make art more regularly. Currently I am holding myself to an "At least one finished Painting a week" But maybe that isn't enough?

>>2847525
>tfw haven't even done 100
>probably not even 30
>this anon is at 300

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>>2834911
Ain't got anything recent except 2 different panels from 2 different short comics I did.

>>2847529
Just do more. :) When you look at the people who progress the fastest their *Shit* stuff still looks good and that is likely what drives them on, but the other common factor is they do a TON of work in a short amount of time.

Like in a year they might do 200 finished pieces.

The anon above did 300 total. That is the difference core difference + other things.

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I think i improve but like the slowest pace ever. I stop drawing months at a time and only draw a couple hours maybe 4 max when I do draw. But I think i'm improving some... But I now want to actually buckle down and improve. I'm starting with fundies like boxes and lines. What else should I do. what books and what order. maybe not the whole road to git gud but maybe the first couple steps atleast a month or 2 of work.

>>2847525
>>2847528
Completely fucked.

You seem to try to study things but end up just shittily trying to copy things.

Go through keys to drawing, ask for more critique. Draw and paint more.

>>2847631
You should do studies. Color studies, master studies, etc. They'll get you good really quick.

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2014ish to today

>>2847667
You seem to really like fish, anon.

>>2847671
oh yes, daddy
but actually I just like the staging

>>2840275
>Fetishes went from Giantess, to muscle girl, to muscle girl giantess.

What a guy

>>2847663
>studies
Any vids or books or resource I can get on this subject. Do I just go about setting a grid and getting it accurate as can be? or just free hand it all the way? But thank you for the advice on the meanwhile I'll see what I can dig up.

>>2847698
Noah Bradley's Art camp first video is good. You can do it either way, but I prefer free handing it.

>>2847716
This is like a month in between right?

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>>2847717

>>2847726
That didn't answer his question though

>>2847726
Well, they aren't wrong. It really goes to show much they've improved over the years.

>>2847729
8 years.

>>2844907
First one looks like it belongs in that god awful bill burr cartoon, second one looks like it belong in an adult swim one air pilot episode and the third one is strait up fairly odd parents.

>>2847641
The studying turns copy is actually somewhat accurate now that you say it is makes sense.

Besides just *Draw more* (which I would likely end up with the same problem.)

What are some tips to keep my studies "Studies" and not fall into copying?

>>2847641
>You seem to try to study things but end up just shittily trying to copy things.
Oh shit is this a thing? Oh fuck I think I'm doing that. I thought copying was studying.

>>2847641
>>2847827
I'm the person they are talking about (I made the
>Completely Fucked
Artwork. I understand the idea of studies turning into copies, but not how to avoid it.

Correct use of studies is you walk away from things understanding something about the subject you didn't before. To the degree that you can either do it better next time, or that you understand it well enough to render it from imagination. (Or learning something new about light, color, edges, anatomy etc.)

So when you start painting something with a Goal of improving X, but in the end just paint something mechanically that ends up looking like the thing.

What I want to know is how not to get lost along the way. haha :P

>>2847778
f is for family rocks
so does Billy

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These are about a month apart. I've been focusing on imaginative drawing, for the most part.

>>2848177
Imaginative drawing is good, but it's just fun that makes you less likely to burn-out, it doesn't help you draw better. Do it in the spare time.
Before you sit down to draw an elf, read a book or watch a lecture.

>>2843833
literally 86% of the population has the ligameme, if thats the only thing you can be proud of its kinda sad.

>>2848214
wouldn't you rather be able to draw whatever you wanted from your head rather than going through the hassle of finding references for everything?

Besides, when I draw from imagination it feels more free. I know the information already, I'm not tied down to a reference so it comes out more loose and gestural, which I think is a good thing.

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Something recent.

I remember getting a critique on the 2014 one my friend said: Why does it look like he's holding 2 dicks in his hands.

Needless to say the more time you spend on something the more well rendered it becomes, I'd say 2014 was roughly 120 minutes and right is double that.

>>2848262
Nice improvement.

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>>2834911
>2001

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>>2848457
>20 minutes ago

>>2848177
Your art's going through puberty.
That's pretty impressive.

>>2848457
>>2848458
>16 years and still doesn't know how to resize a picture

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tried a lot of different things. something to remember: the pace at which i completed paintings is the most drastic thing that has changed. that painting i did in 2013 is one of maybe 10 paintings i did that whole year, and the 2017 painting is one of about 13 I've completed between January and now

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>>2848466
couldn't be bothered m8

>>2848228
I didn't say anything about references. A book or a lecture will tell you more about the principles of perspective or laws of light, which, after observing them on references and practicing for a while, can be applied to your elf drawings.
That's how people improve, through studying.

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>>2847778
I had to look up the "Bill Burr" show you were talking about. You're pretty spot on man, lol. I disagree on the FOP though, for the most part at least. While he is the same yoked character archetype as Von Strangle and the silhouette isn't too far off, that Hartman style is all about ditching form in favor of a flat, graphic shape.

Rather than FOP I may have inadvertently channeled Hoss Delgado from Billy and Mandy, or perhaps one of my many other supposed influences I won't come close to emulating in my lifetime. Looks a lot like that John k. Ripping Friends sketch from this chart I made over a year ago, in fact. I never would have noticed until you pointed it out.

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>>2835108

>>2848553
this guy hasn't even held a pencil, both pictures are made from the basic shapes and bucket tool in paint

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>>2848553

>>2848499
I think you misunderstood me. When I said I was focusing on imaginative drawing, I didn't mean I was just drawing purely from imagination. I was doing pages and pages of studies and then trying to apply those studies to work from my head.

>>2848463
thanks. Maybe If I keep going it'll grow the hell up

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a redraw of some kind of 'robot' as my old file was named. i'm not sure what part of it was a robot at all but i tried again anyways.

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My vaporwave videogame screenshot themed project progression.

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>>2848935

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>>2848937

>>2848450

ty mate

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>>2848939

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>>2848942
final one I made today

>>2847820
>>2847898
>>2847827
Try dissecting the images, turn them greyscale and then copy. Try to draw the image just by using pure black and white, trace the image to find the perspective, figure out the composition,etc.. Focus on something instead of copying the whole. The whole thing helps but you need to focus as well. You are basically trying to build a car but never looked under the hood

>>2848477
3 years of stagnation
>>2848262
Still lots of problems but overall nice speed m8
>>2848717
Horrible

>>2848943
i mean whats the progress? just recoloring and pasting some images from other stuff

>>2840632
Rat, is that you?

>>2849199
The change in your process, as shown in the last pic looks great, I'd recommend blocking in flats and using a bigger brush with more confident lines

>>2849205
Thank you for the tips :)

>>2846016
Yes, I feel ya hiney.

I too am in that boat, but I still draw in "muh style" so I don't lose it#

>>2846024
Wow, real improvement. Papa bless!

>>2846329
Lol, gimp ain't that bad. You probably just a PS pleb. Not like it's a bad thing. PS is Def better, but gimp can be a good tool as well, you just need to know how to work with ur mediums!

>>2847737
I thought you were joking but holy shit.

http://emoon18.deviantart.com/art/Fanart-Luca-Trulyworth-2017-Revision-661246822

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>>how to ruin a drawing when you such at values 101
any tips what I can study to be able to finish this crap up?

>>2849269
meant to say "suck at values"

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>>2849269
You're literally me, I hope you get a good answer cus it'll help me a lot too.

>>2849269
>How to ruin a drawing

There wasn't much to ruin in the first place.
Master your perspective and your boxes first, friend. If you can't apply perspective to the human figure, you're not ready to render.

>>2849269
All you have to do is clean up your shit more.

>>2849426
You need more thicc lines. They were very appealing. Also just noticed this is only two months apart. You need to catch your appeal from left even though right is cleaner.

>>2849428
Hmm, you've given me something to think about, Ill definitely try with thicker lines next time

>>2849426
Friends don't let friends skip arm day.

>>2849269
>>2849281
Push your values go darker and lighter, don't just randomly stroke shit, follow the form. remeber the direction the light is coming from and put shadows where the light has no access to and light where the light would hit in the drawing. Values = light and shadow my mans.

>>2849199
if only you didn't copy kr0npr1nz and other anime artists and instead looked at a real person for once

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>>2849436
Its not thicker lines, its about lineweight.

>>2835147
>Firez-tbr.tumblr.com
I remember you. Nice to see you made gains.

>>2847401
do you have a blog or some method of contact?

>>2849167
Well, a painter has other skills besides painting, composition, how the eye flows looking at the picture, how the colors work together.
From the people I've asked, such improvements are happening as I make more of these.

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>>2848223
>>mfw I only said I've got it, and asked how's it supposed to help me. Are you autistic or what?

>>2849667
my point is that even if it does help somewhat, fucking everybody has it so you dont have a advantage over anybody. ur not special ;)

>>2847401
where'd his fucken sword go bruh

>>2849470
Thanks I'll work on understanding line weight

>>2846923
But it's true...

>>2846749
You didn't improve in that time at all. You've drawn a lot so you're that skill, now completely plateaued.

>>2849684
He sold it because he couldn't afford the gas bills to keep his family warm in the cold winter.

>>2848955
Thanks muchly! I will try and do this!

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Almost exactly two years, the newer isn't finished yet tho

>>2850415
hair looks really nice anon, do you have a da/tumblr etc?

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>>2848262

>>2848262
>>2850721

Looks great! What sort of technique d'you use in your brush strokes? I've seen it often but haven't figured out the proper way to execute them.

>>2850466
I don't, sorry

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It was first after 2012 in my second year of highschool that I started to consider making a career with art. Not going to do it the traditional way though but I know for a fact that I will make it cause I believe in myself and that is all that matters! Nobody can ever stop me from doing what I love.

Don't have an artblogg but I have an instagram.

Instagram: Emilnowicki

>>2851159
Oj emil, emil...

>>2851184
haha polish or what, I can't comprehend what you are trying mean with that comment :/

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I think I plateaued pretty hard around 3 years ago and have hardly improved since then.

>>2851233
still a progress tho, nice work

>>2850820

I just try to paint whats on the screen, I don't think about technique as consciously as many people might but this is also my greatest weakness. I'd say just learn to use different brushes to achieve certain results; like hair rendering, skin rendering etc.

>>2851233
Everybody plateaus at some point, especially when you start getting into the higher skill levels. Just keep going anon, you'll keep improving.

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>>2850415
Now properly.

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Slow but steady...

>>2851738
...regress

>>2849544
No I don't have anything but an old dA that I stopped updating because why the fuck would I

I still get commissions every now and then and I'm working on a comic that I'll probably publish eventually though

>>2851738
Fix the face, lower the bellybutton, work on background, go darker on dark areas, and keep on drawing, you're doing a good job.

>>2851730
doesnt seem like progress, more like different style

>>2840348
Tis what real progress looks like

>>2852197
>doesnt seem like progress, more like different style
seriously?
i know the first one is stylized but the second one is a lot better

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>>2852299
Started taking drawing seriously in October of last year, still studying body, hands
When I get good enough will try to start using brushes
Critique please

>>2852302
don't trace photos

>>2852601
>trace meme
It's called being good, anon.

>>2852607
ehh modern times

>>2851738
See you in the cringe thread

>>2852302
I have no idea how you manage to be decent and abolute shitty garbage at the same time.

>>2843844
check cgpeers, i've found the portrait and figure course on there

>>2852727
Honestly it looks like traced shit. Hope it's not the case, though.

>>2852601
>>2852727
I dont trace the photos, I obviously use them as reference but I draw them and when I finish the sketch I superimpose the photo and see what I did wrong, then I remove the photo and do it again until I think it looks similar to the picture

And dont understand the decent and shitty garbage at the same time

>>2852781
Bollocks. I hope you're trolling.

And what's with the hand covering the eye one?

>>2852879
Why? Is it bad to do that?
That one was quite easy, I did it on Inkscape

>>2848262
Cool.

>>2852883
>That one was quite easy
No way, I bet you've spent hours on it. It's perfect.

>>2852897
I feel stupid asking, but you are being ironic right? ;_;

>>2852902
You're actually autistic, sad!

>>2852902
Yes, aren't you?

There is no way that someone who could draw something like those trace drawings would also draw that hand covering the eye.>>2852607

>>2852906
Yes it's possible because I did ...
I dont understand why you think it's trace, I can draw the others just the way I made the eye

>>2852914
I mean the eye the way I made the others

>>2852914
>I dont understand why you think it's trace
Because you clearly don't know how eyes or hands look. I still don't think you're serious.

>>2852919
The hand and eye was me trying something more simple, I see why you say I dont know eyes or hands, because I dont really know

In the others I was looking to the picture so even if I dont know hands really good they dont look that awful

>>2852937
You either traced the drawings or you're joking with the eye one.
It's not simplified, it's wrong. Just tell me you're joking and we can both move on with our lives.

>>2852945
Ok, the drawing is worse than I thought It' s a joke

>>2852781
>I superimpose the photo and see what I did wrong, then I remove the photo and do it again until I think it looks similar to the picture

Quickscope tracing is now a thing?

>>2852157
you have some of the most potential on this board. if you wanna talk about art shit id be down

>>2839392
The desert piece looks amazing.

>>2851233
Holy shit there are actually good artists on this board? Maybe I should come here more often...

>>2853311
No, you should develop some taste.

>>2853359

>>2841385
Who's tableguy? This is sweet improvement-not fast but good.

is tableguy a regular here?

>>2853391
I think he's a dude in the discord.

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>>2853427
Should I.... should I join the /ic/ discord? How do I know if that's a good idea or a really bad one?

>>2840329
some feedback would be appreciated.

>>2853974
ah the thread is not even bumping anymore.
maybe next time

>>2853391
I'm tableguy, I'm semi regular.

>>2853427
I'm an old fart and I don't know what discord is

>>2854108
Bro you should post work more often your shit is tops

Slow progress, but damn good progress. How old btw? Or how many yrs have you been drawing (seriously) ?

>>2854328
I used to post on /ic/ almost everyday. Got into drawing in 2013, I'm 30 now...

Thanks for the accolades - I started drawing again after a 3-4m hiatus, I'm hoping for a comeback, but don't want to jinx it.

>>2854980
plis marry me

>>2853581
/ic/ discord is neat. People are a lot less strict there but they'll still talk shit about your art cause they love you.