/beg/ - BEGINNER THREAD

How do I git gud at drawing?

>>2828871

by drawing. good luck

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Should I pick something else from Scott Robertson or just this book?

>>2828880
How to Render

>>2828880

lol don't listen to >>2828891, what you picked is fine. Just so you know, S.R. only has 2 books.

>>2828894
Alright. What about his video courses?

>>2828902

Haven't seen them, ask someone else.

Is it worth doing Bargue plates using comparative measurment? I don't have an easel to set up a print next to some paper.

Do Bargue plates require sight-size or I'll still reap the benefits of doing Bargues with comparitive measurment?

>>2828853
>Tfw my drawing was used in the OP
What does this mean?

So guys, how should I draw when drawing from reference? Is better to keep the photo on the monitor while sketching on my paper or it's better to draw on my graphic monitor keeping the photo and the drawing perfectly aligned so it's easier to compare them?

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>>2828859
>>2828857

experimenting with ballpoint pen, pretty hard to lay stuff down right for the first try

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>>2825765
bad scan but i tried

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I'm pretty sure a 3rd grader could do a better job drawing and coloring a pineapple, but fuck it, I had some fun.

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>>2828861

>>2829018

This style is almost exactly how I expect my style to turn out eventually. Wonderful work!

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I'll be applying to art colleg tomorrow. Here's my resume. I know I'm not gonna make it, but pls rate it /ic/.

>>2829092
Lmao, but not quite there to be meme material

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>>2825759

I'm not done but rendering in PS is such a drag. I don't know how people do it, I must be doing something wrong.

>>2828941

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>>2828860
I just started drawing a month ago and I know its bad, but I can't seem to understand how to properly draw African Americans using just a mechanical pencil, rendering seems much harder. Besides that, I know the neck is not wide enough, and the chin is a bit too stubby, not even mentioning hair.

>>2829152
Here's the key. Their jaw, nose, and forehead are a bit more ape-ish than whites.

>>2829031
Thats all that matters. Just keep going at it and don`t be afraid to do something you haven`t done before. You`ll get better and maybe even git gut

>>2829092
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>2829152
the eyes are way too high. Look up some face structure, the eyes are suprisingly low. I woulld also lower the mouth and the nose, for the hair definitely don`t make lines where they should be(line between the face and the hair, hairline basicaly) also look more at how the head connects to the neck. You shouldn`t really think about drawing an african american, just think about drawing someone with distinctive facial features. African american people do have shared facial features but you shouldn`t have that as a base when drawing people. Just keep going at it.

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>>2828861
5 minutes in and it already looks like fucking trash.

>>2829201
about 40 times better than what i ahave been doing for the last 50 minutes.

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>>2829201
Art is not about perfectly copying something on paper, we have cameras for that.

>>2829201
portraiture shouldn't be your priority at this point

>>2829218
What should be then?

>>2829222
put aside construction and face for a while. Read keys to drawing or that other book. Top post have the link or the sticky.

Start with simple stuff then slowly move on to face. Face is really hard. Not only is it complex but because everyone know what a face looks like a minor shift of features proportions and position will look off. Unless it's deliberately stylize.

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>>2829167
Thanks, I'll do my best. Also I made the pineapple into Spongebobs house for fun.

>>2829263
>for fun
ngmi

>>2829266
For study?

>>2829269
no fun
only training

>>2829225
how do I handle people who draw some shit
expect me to praise it
I don't
"Well this is my style"
what do?
360 walk away?

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>>2828857
Started working on my construction. Where do you guys take reference pictures? Looking for some sources

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>>2829305
its not 3d enough

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>>2828860
I tried my best

>>2829371

How are those so 3D? What's the secret?

>>2828982
it means op was tired at 4 am and chose the first thing he saw

>>2829384
Planes

>>2829384
they are made of 3d boxes and not 2d lines.
stop trying to misunderstand

Should I get proko full figure fundamentals (torrent) or just his yt videos are enough? I'll be working along with Vilppu's book.

>>2829396
cant hurt to get it

>>2829419
The full torrent? Okay. I'll get it. Thanks for replying.

>>2828943
You don't have to but it doesn't hurt. Takes a long time though because it's about doing it as precise as you can.

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>>2829425
did you really need /ic/'s approval for a free download

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>>2829471
It's 4 gb downloaded at this speed, anon. I just didn't want to waste my internet and time if it wasn't worth it.

>>2829507
>not having time and Internet to waste
Pleb

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hows my measuring guys. keys to drawing is a godsend

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Did some two point measuring and more diminishment guide stuff today.

>>2829584
that's erik olson

keep it up anon

>>2829584
Now this is beginning to look more advanced. Nice. Still not at that /las/er's level though.

>keep practicing
>just keep trying
>practice practice practice
>try try try
its all bullshit fuck all this

>>2829587
ngmi

>>2829587
>giving up 23 days after New Years
Bye.

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>>2829587
your tears are the lube for my journey

>>2829587
I'm beginner but even me know this: If you just draw mindlessy you won't get anywhere. You need to understand what you are doing, bro.

Search methods that work for you. For example, on drawing heads I used loomis books, bridgman, then watched proko videos and downloaded a lot of shady PDFs in russian teaching how draw heads until I finally found Ron Lemen's portrait videos and reilly method and finally it clicked with me. I struggled for months until I found something that worked for me. I wish I could show you, but I don't have a camera and I'm full tradicional ATM.

Now I'm doing the same with body anatomy.

Also, no matter what level you are or what you learning, I would recommend bargue. Do bargue course. It helped me to get to the next level. Even if I still low level, hahaha.

I believe in you anon, don't give up!

>>2829376
Pretty nice, just take care to measure shapes (bottom lip is larger, nose is more curved, ear is slanted) and then play around with adding more contrast.

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>>2828860
I'm trying to do at least one portrait per day while going through fundies books. Also thinking about doing drawabox lessons, they seem good for learning perspective.

>>2829601
>this good already
Damn.

>>2829601
Fuck you for being better than me. This pisses me off so goddamn much.

>>2829601
I'm going to add my jealousy to the pile. I've been working hard at this for three weeks and I'm not a fraction as good as this.

>>2829585
Olson is the man. Will do.

>>2829586
No matter how good you get, somebody will always be better.

>>2829606
>>2829609
>>2829617
I'm not full beginner, never learned fundamentals and construction tho, mostly doodling and a sketch here and there

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good lord i am bad at this

I just want to learn how to perspective and foreshorten properly so I can draw actual poses from my brain dammit

>>2829587
Fuck it all, but keep practicing

>>2829617
>three weeks

Should I be doing another thing while doing the DrawABox lessons? Right now I just do the excercises for a few hours, probably not the best is it?
Also, at what lesson should I stop doing drawabox?

>>2829641
I'm an absolute beginner so take this with a grain of salt, but I find it's better to balance studying and exercise with drawing for enjoyment. Study hard, but break it up with drawing what you like.

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>>2828859

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>>2828857

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>>2828853
Also a hand i did while i was pumping gas :)

>>2829045
>>2829662
>>2829663
>>2829665
Absolutely terrible. Did you even read the sticky?

>>2829668
what makes them terrible?

>>2829669
you did

>>2829671
i was doing a couple of drawings while not really looking at the paper , i tried it from keys to drawing. three drawings from it is a little much, but only say "no u suk" doesnt really help a beginner

>>2829617
It'll take you a month or two to learn this. GL

>>2829671
jej

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Did tons of gesture today. These are the only one that resemble human.

>do fundamentals for a bit
>decide to draw from imagination
>it still sucks and I'm just as shit
Welp

>>2829730
>for a bit
Keep going, dummy.

Has anyone else here tried draw-a-box?

>>2829767
Yes, I'm doing the exercises every night

>>2829774
Do think it's helping you improve? I just started.

>>2829767
It's great to do it after the symbol books. Helps bridge between loomis and Keys/Right Side. Make sure to post for critique on his subreddit. They have an eye for that stuff.

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how important is it to "memorize" these facial planes in andrew loomis' books? so far his construction methods have kind of changed or evolved since previous chapters and his book fun with a pencil, I feel like the more I read the more he'll supersede his own instructions. should I just try to copy some of these and make notes? AHH how do I study and self teach?

>>2829781
I wouldn't really know, I've only been doing them for around a week now. I feel like it's helped me a bit though.

>>2829271
kek

>>2829784
Why does it feel like the number of beginners have begun to increase?

>>2829792
I'm just going to go with my gut and not attempt to memorize this page

>>2829784
You do not need to completely memorize them to the point of being able to draw them off the top of your head, but for kek's sake, at least be able to recognize them.

>>2829796
Well, then you would be wrong. You should memorize because it will help you see light and shadow.

>>2829784
you should make yourself familiar with them at the very least. knowing the planes of the face will help you see and understand values. it's not really about construction.

>>2829798
ok, that makes sense and what I was wondering

>>2829303
shott htem then shoot u self dummi

>>2829303
Ask if their style is aiming to be shit.

Is it an okay idea to make something to put some bullshit webcomic or something on, even though I'm still shit? I would just be doing it for fun, but is it bad? I can't potentially re-enforce my shit drawings can I? Obviously I'd be studying the fundamentals along side doing it for fun.

>>2829819
You can do whatever you want to do, anon. Who is holding you back aside from yourself?

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>>2829792
It's the new years. It'll die down around March when the last of the ones that aren't going to make it fizzle out

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any opinions on this?

>>2829830
What's the point of this.
Is this some end game kind of thing

>>2829830
he took the negative space meme too far

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>>2828860
Fuck. Neck's too thin. Head and face aren't long enough. I tried to keep it fitting on my paper but I didn't keep proportions the same. Second day of drawing, how could I have improved this?
My goal starting out drawing is to come to /beg/ and look at a reference, draw it, then read more of Keys to Drawing and do those exercises.

>>2829838
>tfw there's exactly another /beg/inner here who said the same thing but was actually good

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I love all of you faggots.

My shoulder hurts from these DrawABox exercises
Fuck

>>2829847
I'm glad there's at least one person who tried as hard as I did and got sore from drawabox. Get used to it, it goes away in the second week.

>>2829851
I hope I'm trying hard. I'm filling up a page with each exercise from lesson 1 a day, takes me around 2.5-3 hours to finish.

>>2829832
i dont really understand what youre asking

>>2829854
I did the exact same thing except sometimes I would do more than one page. The gains come quickly too if you really are focused about it. Although, did you try different directions yet for your lines?

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>>2829839
I'll be good some day! ...In like a year. Or three. Heck, I filled in the hair and changed the face shading and it already looks 1% better!
...Fuck I hope with enough dedication I can make it.

>>2829856
I haven't done them in different directions (in regards to the first exercise at least) but that's a good idea, I'll throw that in there. I've only been doing it for 5-6 days now though, so I think that I'm getting some understanding and then the next line I draw is just so off it's ridiculous. At the very least I am drawing from my shoulder so it's training that.

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How many pages of these line control exercises should I do before starting a study?

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I feel like I'm getting worse at this exercise the more I do it
Kill me

>>2829871
>>2829872
>this good already
You should begin to actually start drawing.

>>2829875
Did you mean to quote >>2829872 (me) as well?
I feel like my lines are incredibly wobbly still after doing this for 5 days

>>2829878
kek
thirsty for approval
you aight tho desu senpai, go do some drawing

>>2829878
Your lines are better than mine after 6 weeks, relax

>>2829878
Yeah, I know it sounds scary to move on, but you'll see when you start drawing that this exercise is merely the beginning. This only gets you good at lines, but not drawing.

>>2829887
>>2829883
>>2829882
Alright, thanks for the advice and encouragement.
Should I move onto lesson 2 of DrawABox or should I do something like Keys to Drawing?

>>2829896
draw whatever you want for your own personal enjoyment. you've earned it

>>2829896
You should draw what you want to draw first and foremost. Patience is key anon. You can't rush improvement by just grinding everything. What do you want to get better at drawing for?

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>>2829902
>>2829901
I want to get better at drawing girls, so I can draw anime girls later. I know I'm a loser weeaboo, but that's what I wanna draw

>>2829905
>implying we're not all loser weeaboos with the same goal

>>2829905
>chromatic aberration
when will this shitty trend stop?

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>>2828860
>>2828861

>>2829905
Does Loomis teach you how to make such expressive faces like these? Or do I just got to learn it all on my own through iteration?

>>2829913
Yes and no
you try different methods and choose what works the best for you.
If you just need the basic but want to draw the expresin freely, you do.
Try what works better for you

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first time visiting /ic/, I didn't know this board existed

I used to draw a lot when I was a kid but stopped after getting my PS2, I wanna go back to drawing since I'm studying graphic design and drawing skills are helpful.

>>2829978
So, what do you desire from coming here?

>>2829980
just practice and get feedback to improve

>>2829981
Read "keys to drawing by bert dodson", ask for feedback in whatever you get stuck m8.
>"I want to improve"
Is a theme to vague and to broad.
Start with this:
vkDOTcomSLASHdoc-82275390_437584698

>>2829984
thx m8, I'll check it out

>>2829978
read the fucking op

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>>2828860

>>2829988
my bad, here you go

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Something I've been working on today.

I drew the bear quick from photo reference, rest from imagination. Originally had the guy leaning a bit backwards with his sword out, but it looked too relaxed and awkward. Trying to twist his torso from the sitting position and having a hard time figuring out how it should look.

Any advice?

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>>2828860
Finished right side last weekend and started doing portraits last Sunday.
Placement on paper was obviously fucked, anything else majorly fucked?

I'm having trouble drawing gestures for normal poses, where they just stand up straight, anyone got advice?

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Hope you guys don't mind that i post everyday
Anyways tell me what ya think

>>2830128
>those slick lines
>so clean
>this good
It would be great if you could draw different poses. I think it would benefit you greatly. These look nice already, so something new would be even better.

>>2830128
It's generic weebshit drawn in the same pose. Other than relatively slick lines, what is there to critique?

>>2830131
yea these are the start of character design sheets so i drew them all in the same pose, thanks though :)

>>2830128
Got a manga?

>>283013
proportions, designs, idk man

>>2830138
Nope but i plan to start making one soon, just have to think of a story

>>2830128
its hard to critique this, post some stuff with another pose

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>>2828860
I've really tried but it looks horrible. >_<

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>>2830167

>>2829092
don't people enter art college at like 16? how good are 16 year olds meant to be at drawing?

>>2829303
do a 1280 and kill yourself because you're not critiquing right if they say "Well this is my style"

>tfw had a rough work day and your arms hurt like hell and can't draw a fucking straight line

>>2829831
zoo wee mama

>>2829092
i love your art m8, keep it up (^_^)

>>2830200
Take a break and read about art, or have some fun watching a movie and doodle a bit : )

>>2830000
idk try doing the pose irl or something lol idk nice quads

>>2830128
read the fucking sticky you 1.95 megabyte son of a bitch

>>2830167
It's always better to do than not to, every time you get closer to your goal.

>>2830128
try to experiment on the proportion of the human body.

>going through Scott Robertson's How to Draw for the first time

Let me just pull out my protractor and TI-82 god damn.

>>2830195
College? Aren't you usually like 19 or something when you start college.

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>>2828854

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Yeah I know I shouldn't have done it on this kind of Paper, yet i was at a friends House so i didn't have anything els.
Anyways.
First time i tried to do a portrait with pencil again,
Critique?

>>2829708
Get yourself some big marker or even chalk or some shit like that , then just work with your shoulder and try to have some flow. Dont think too much about the figure, dont actually think at all, just make flouwy lines, because all your lines just look so stiff.

>>2830167
main issue is that the lips are too big, you horrible horrible racist

>>2830425
Not bad. Symbol drawing on the eye, bottom lip is at an angle to top lip, back of head cut off, try to figure out form more instead of restating multiple times each profile line which makes it harder to critique.

>>2830397
>>2830396
Can I get some feed back on these? I'm still in the early pages of keys to drawing and the hand was one of the exercises

>>2829018
Hey friend, try using cheap Bic pens, honestly you can lay a sketch out super lightly with them. Haven't found anything close in comparison for sketching. Seriously try it

>>2829045
It's okay to erase, if it looks off erase. Or start over. You won't get it perfect everyone erases

>>2830465
Well in the book everyone on this board recommends "keys to drawing" the guy literally says not to , I guess it's to be followed loosely ?

>>2830489
Well obviously if you fuck something up your not gnna leave it all fucked up

>>2830504
But that literally what it says to do in the book lol it says not to care what the outcome looks like just to focus on the contours of the subject, do this by not really looking at the paper but looking at the subject . Obviously not a direct quote but it was along those lines

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>>2828860
I feel like I'm not improving at all

>>2830489
He says not to because he assumed everyone don't have the knowledge to fix or even see the fuck ups. If you can then do it.

>>2830511
>not to care what the outcome looks like just to focus on the contours of the subject, do this by not really looking at the paper but looking at the subject

It just means pay more attention to the subject rather than your paper that contains no information. Stop worrying about your lines because you're a beginner and just try to make it look like the object no matter how messy.

>>2830550
Ok I think I get what you mean , thanks

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>>2830555
Any suggestions on the face? She somehow came off more agressive.

>>2830546
Chicken-scratching. You really need to tackle that before moving on. It's not the main problem, but it'll fester if you don't consciously try to avoid it.

I don't want to sound rude but you really need to read (or reread) Drawing from the right side of the brain and Keys to Drawing. They're both on the /ic/ book thread.

>>2830557
Her head is too small, her cheeks are sunken in like a crackhead, that's why she looks so aggressive

Im trying to make a bunch of 3/4 angle self portraits every day but i dont understand how to draw my eyes. Whats the best strategy to get an understanding of how the eyelids etc work?

>>2830585
Read or watch a bunch of videos on how to draw eyes. Then draw a whole bunch of eyes but make sure you're drawing them well.

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Bit more of 2 point measuring and diminishment guide fuckery.

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>>2828853
I've gone back to doodling from imagination after focusing on construction and stuff for a long time, (haven't really done shit though, but I've been thinking a lot about it). I think it's a good thing for me to alternate between the two.

I found a guy who helped me quite a bit, I've taken to calling him Black Proko. Big difference being he can actually draw from imagination so he can't get bullied for that like people have been doing to poor Stan lately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYjpkg6vrlg

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>>2828853
Can I get an honest crit on this?

>>2830704
3rd grade arts and craft trash, put some effort in you lazy autist

>>2830703
youtubers like this should be in the sticky or in the beginner threads op.

>>2830708
I've only seen a few of his videos so far, he has literally hundreds, but this one helped me a lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waHuGbyjghA

>>2830705
Lol

>>2830704
Muddy. Push your values.

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Work in progress. There's something wrong with her upper body but I can't pinpoint exactly what it is. Any suggestions?

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>>2830782
I was using this as reference.

>>2830783
Who are these

>>2830806
Dunno. I found that pic on /sp/

>>2830782
Arms are too thin.

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>>2830782
I'm still shit. Not giving any advice just sharing my process. I always do really sketchy lines and try to fix stuff as much as I can in that stage before refining it. It looks like you start clean contour right away.

Studying figure drawing fundamentals help a lot. I've only been doing it for 4 days and I've seen tremendous improvement.

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>>2828860
did the underlip and ear wrong..

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I might tackle this later. I feel like I'm about to pass out.

>>2830618
>vibri
good taste anon. vibri can help you draw gesture. I hope you'll make it.

why is everyone on here just actually an ass being rude? It may be criticism either way but theres no reason to say stuff like "this fucking sucks" etc. That doesnt make anyone want to continue drawing

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looking for critique
There was no reference.

>>2830929
I like the idea! Most glaringly is whatever hood or that is on her head makes it look like her cranium is huge. Did you draw through or sketch it like this initially?

>>2830928
filter shitposty critique - it'll help you both now and in the long run

>>2830928
Comes with the place. Filter out 'it's shit' and 'ngmi' critique. Learn to tell which is good and which is shit.

>>2830895
>sketchy lines
You mean fucking chickenscratch. Stop that.

>>2830782
The connection at the shoulder is off. The head-neck connection is also off. You forgot to define her waist on the left side.

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how the fuck do i make water look like water?

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>>2831019
woops sorry. fixed

>>2830575
I've been reading them over but I'm mentally deficient so I can't seem to apply my knowledge to my drawings.

As for chicken scratching, do I just accept shit lines and move on?

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Ref is >>2829577

>>2830936
it supposed to be a halo like thing. It just kinda came to be that way from a rough idea in my head. didn't really do a rough sketch or anything. Yeah I can see how the head could be big, but the intent was to get a loose fabric kinda feel.

>>2830924
Such a cool game. Thank you for the kind words anon.

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>>2828860
how'd i do

>>2830982
Lol believe or not it's less strokes than you think. I use large brush and erased some part.

I need to post more messy lines. Usually people just ignore my clean work.

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Hey /ic/, I'm pretty new to drawing and this is my first post here. Sorry in advance.

>>2831126
>>>/sticky/
>>>/ic/stylization general/

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Been drawing for about a week. How to evolve to a less cartoony style?

>>2831139
you do some loomis with a fuckin pencil thats how

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>>2830742
ah here was my attempt, I tried pushing them but I think it's a combination of a gap between my knowledge of the software and lack of value studies. I know they're bad, any tips on value lessons?

>>2831149
cntrl paint

>>2829152
Hey, at least the ear looks okay.

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I keep thinking that im shit, it's really making me not wanna draw anymore.. What can i do?

>>2831291
breddy fugable dbh

>>2831291
Nice line weight desu. How do I get to that level?

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A work in progress Charcoal piece

>>2831299
by practising drawing

>tfw depression slapping the shit out of me today and giving me no energy to draw
Kill me. If I didn't have this shit I could literally have energy to draw all the time.
Oh well. I'll grind some more fundamentals tomorrow.

>>2830462
thanks, i'll give them a shot, i use pilots now

>>2831291
Lines so sharp they could cut diamonds.

>>2831304
stop masturbating and go do squats you fucking pathetic degenerate

>>2831296
Thank you!
>>2831299
First sketch something out, then do regular lines over it, then thicken the lines mainly where a line meets another line/ bends.

>>2831139
Draw something that's not pull out of your ass, on a actual piece of paper.

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>>2828862

Is Bridgman a good reference for muscles and how they work?

>>2831364
Use it, see if it helps you, if not, move on to hampton.

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some gestures

>>2831378
not really gesture tbqhwy

>>2831382
Gesture definition
A gesture drawing is the representation of the essence of an object’s or figure’s position. It is the act of creating a drawing or sketch with a loose grip and movement of the drawing tool used. Gesture drawings are often very expressive and allow one the freedom to loosen up and not worry about small details.

>>2831382
gesture battle me kid

>>2831382
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/why-bother-gesture-drawing

>>2831385
>>2831386
>>2831393
if you stooges are all the same person, i think your argument is "but it is gesture", to which my response is "no it isnt".

>>2831409
this >>2831385 wasnt me but the other two are mine, did you read the definition? Did you watch the vid? Let me know why it does not fit the definition, im curious.

>>2831416
i mean >>2831386 wasn't me, sry

>>2831291
Yes.

>>2831291
find a subject matter less cringy

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Crit.?

>>2831427
its not bad i think. the design is original if not amazing. the piece is generally aesthetically pleasing.

>>2831438
loomis

>>2831416
you are supposed to only attempt to capture the pose, not the proportion and correct form also. i think it might be useful for you to look at villpu and proko's style of gesture and see how they differ from a regular figure drawing.

im just /beg/ too though.

also your line quality is abysmal.

>>2831441
you seem to be in a misunderstanding here - pose = proportion + form
you didnt pay enough attention to vilppu i think
mind showing your gestures?

>>2831463
pose is its own thing. its not just a getting the mannequin in the right position.

my gestures are bad in quality but in my opinions correct in technique. i wont show them since all my old paper is in a massive pile and i dont want to rummage through it.

looks like we fundamentally disagree so second opinions are necessary here.

>>2831467
not getting your point, what else could it be other than the position of forms in space?

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>>2831470
theres a reason everyone uses wanky abstract concepts to describe the "flow", "tempo" and "moment". its because it cant be described in physical terms. its just nuance. like i said, you need to ask someone else. its clear you wont accept it just from me.

>>2831471
you should keep those in mind for sure but after a certain point you can get away with just thinking about them, not actually drawing them

>>2831475
you've misunderstood, its almost like you're trying to. you arent eric are you?

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>>2831477
i encourage you to read this again

Gesture definition
A gesture drawing is the representation of the essence of an object’s or figure’s position. It is the act of creating a drawing or sketch with a loose grip and movement of the drawing tool used. Gesture drawings are often very expressive and allow one the freedom to loosen up and not worry about small details.

here are some examples too.

>>2831484
you're eric arent you

>>2831484
>the essence of an object’s or figure’s position
What does this even mean

>>2831485
hell nope, thats pretty offensive of you to assume

>>2831486

in my opinion it means that it is a tool to quicky lay down the basic proportions and relations of your drawing, so you wont get bugged down by details too early and start defining something that is wrong in its essence

>>2831438
sticky

>>2831438
Eyes should be shaped like pears.
The space between both eyes are one eye's length.
Nose looks like shit because you used those lines which you don't normally see because of light.
Also you left in your construction lines for some reason. Erase that stuff so you can clean it up.
The length between the side of the head and the eye is a little less than one eye's length too.
Anyways, everything looks like crap because mainly of your eyes. An anon once told me that the eyes are the essence of portraits. If you can capture the eyes correctly, everything else will follow.

Do I really need to make that glass window thing in Keys to Drawing? Does it help?

>>2831585
use the tools and practices they talk about in keys to drawing and observational draw anything you want with those tools. There isn't a golden exercise that is gonna make you good in drawing. Although there are exercises that challenge you more or less to use the concepts they talk about in the book, so you get familiar with them. But if I were you I would just draw anything you want from life for now, until you get a bit good with the techniques.

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/beg/, I'm in doubt. I found an anatomy book with a construction method that work for me but it's not loomis, vilppu or hampton. It's Alan Lathwell's Draw Warriors and Heroes. I really like it and it really clicked with me. But I'm afraid I'll miss something important if I study by his book because I never heard nobody talking about him. I'm afraid that one day I look back and this will be a mistake like when I got anime books as a teenager.

I know it's silly but I want to know you guys think. Pic related, it's his work. You can also google if you curious about his skills.

Forgive my english, I usually don't write that much in english.

>>2831439
This is great to know, in fact it kinda inspires me to draw... thank you anon.

>>2831662
You can't go wrong with anatomy since it comes from life. It's like drawing a circle wrong. It'll self correct in due time. So it's fine as long as you get it.

>>2831662
Listen, if his take on anatomy works for you. It works, you found an appropriate approach for yourself and that's good.

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going to call this finished. my second gouache landscape ever. i have no idea how to make the grass look like grass with traditional.
>implying i know how to with digital

I'm trying to stop myself from chickenscratching, but whenever I draw a line it ends up wonky as fuck. Plus, whenever I try and correct it my hand goes full retard and does the same wonky twitch repeatedly.

Anything which could help with this? It's kinda frustrating

>>2831706
Use an eraser. Redraw a lot. Magically attain confidence over the years.

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>>2830108

>>2831709
This is going to be one hell of a grind

>>2831729
Yeah, there is the dynamic sketching approach, but that way is too tedious for a lot of beginners.

So I want to buy some good art books to learn. I know that almost all of them are online but I learn way better on paper. Someone can suggest me some good book worth the money? I think I'm going to buy Keys to drawing first.

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Trying to stop chicken-scratching so my lines are extra shit today. I keep reading and doing practice exercises from Keys to Drawing but they don't seem to help, I'm just as shit as I was day 1. I guess I'm just retarded

>>2831704
it looks quite comfy, too bad the colors don't come across

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>>2828860

Is it bad that I'm an attention whore when it comes to my drawings?

>>2831765
wew thanks, that means a lot. i tried using a different light, it looks better but some of the colors are still off

>>2831762

Probabily, your pencil are wrong.
The nib is too slim.

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>>2831781
Well I can't say much about your drawing but I do like the penis on your thumbnail

>>2831424
Great advice anon.

>>2831440
l00m15

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What should i work on?

>>2831854
Resizing.

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>>2831858
Sorry

Here's some quick but cringeworthy, ridiculous dudes that I drew after studying all day. I got a lot to learn and I know it but if I may ask, how I keep the proportions right? I know for example the guy with sword arms are too long and i think the legs of both characters are too long.

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>>2831861
reposting, forgot to resize, sorry.

>>2831859
his shoulder is dislocated and his arm is dangling in front of his body

>>2831864
you need gesture exercises

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74HR59yFZ7Y

>>2831903
Alright, will do. Anything else?

>>2831928
Learn how to wrink clothes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuxgZnO7P30

>>2831903
>>2831939
Thanks anon, i will work on it.

>>2831835
I don't understand what you mean

>>2831788
No.

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How's it looking? I'm recreating a Repin painting

>>2831859

where did you get these NMA pics?

>>2832053
>>2832053
>>2832053

>>2832053
>>2832053
>>2832053

>>2832053
>>2832053
>>2832053

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Most of the time in my day is spent at work.
As a beginner what should I be practicing away from home/reference?
Are there some good general exercises to incorporate into my day 2 day
Don't want to be wasting hours I could use making progress.

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What should I do?
I often give up before I am able to take a drawing far enough. Should I just try to push through? What if it feels like I don't have any options for where to go?

>>2833386
>>2832065
Fuck. Posting in next thread