I hate myself for doing some random shit instead of drawing.

>>2815762
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>>2815762
I'm pretty glad I quit MMOs at a young age because this is what I feared. For the past 6 years a lot of my NEET time was spent on literature that filled my mental library with aesthetic goodies. So when I procrastinate from drawing I move on to reading, and I get inspired with all sorts of breddy nice ideas that I can then draw.

Now I just have to learn to reduce the time I spend shitposting here

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Yeah, the problem with drawing is that you really can't get steady, fast and little progress. That's something you have to believe for. I am not tips fedora type of guy, but I dont believe in God, I just dont believe in things. I have to work for something I want but there is always something that shows me that I am getting closer and closer. With art I dont see myself being really better, sure I get somehow better but its a "make 100 pizzas" type of improvement. It will be better but not that much If I am not good at it.

Months and months of tears, self hatred for just being better at drawing heads? Is this what you call fun? Really? My stomach hurts everytime I think about my low skill and I start to hate myself even more.

There is no fun in drawing, you have to be masochistic to call it fun. Fuck, all of this misery even with me being a neet. What would I feel if I was full time worker? Fucking hell

>>2816457
Drawing is rewarding only when you get money.

>>2816460
Everyone has differing levels and definitions of rewarding.

>>2816457
you should be having fun drawing. Obviously sometimes it gets frustrating when you keep drawing and drawing and stuff doesn't come out right but you should also have moments where you don't give a shit, let loose and have fun no matter what your art looks like. You don't have to constantly enjoy drawing, you may even hate it every now and then but if it doesn't bring you real meaningful joy every now and then, why even pursue it?

>>2816462
autistic sense of a reward doesnt matter. The real deal is only about money, because your art will never truly satisfy you, unless you are stagnating.

>>2816457
It is masochistic, but so is getting good at everything else. The only people who get to the top are those are quite literally insane. People don't seem to understand that and that's why they will never make it.

>>2815762
Not gonna make it.

>>2815762
Hey, I couldn't help but notice that we are in the same boat. So here's the deal. Let's tie each other to cinderblocks and we will have a race to the bottom of the sea

>>2816475
I know I am not going to make it because Ill kill myself sooner or later, but shut the fuck up about fun. Its fun if you tell yourself its fun. For people that want achievements and all that crap, they dont get fun from just doing stuff.

>>2816457
Drawing is difficult and frustrating at times but your enjoyment of it should be greater. If that's not the case and you're only drawing in order to meet a hypothetical end goal then you're probably in for a world of pain.

You should be amazed that you're learning this almost magical universal language that you can use to directly show others what's inside your head.

Also drawing isn't just grinding shit over and over, you should be looking at the world with different eyes and develop curiosity for the way things they're put together. If you don't feel any of that, it's just drudgery.

>>2816487
Its all cool if you are actually skilled. If you try to show your vision to the world while you are a beginner, it will only make you suffer. If drawing was much easier, a lot more people would enjoy it. Not because its easy, but because you are not frustrated with your every piece.

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>>2816457

I'm a full time worker

People who can will themselves to draw after working a full work week are fucking freaks

>>2816493
It doesn't matter how skilled you are, the dissatisfaction never goes away. But it's only painful if you let it be, you need to find pleasure in making imperfect things.

You're learning a craft, of course for a while your stuff will not be worth presenting to others. But when you draw something and you don't like it, ask yourself what is it that's wrong with it. But by all means don't just take it as a grind. That will absolutely murder your will to draw. You need to understand that the world is fantastic and it's full of wonderful things to look at, the actual act of drawing, your output, is not important as long as you keep looking and learning. Then at some point you'll look back and you'll see that you know a lot about how things are put together. And that disappointment in not knowing enough will become endless curiosity for this planet.

I know it sounds like cheesy Zen discipline but it really is like this.

>>2816503
I imagine the world would be a whole lot better if everyone was trained with Zen discipline.

>>2816503
You know what ambition is? Ambition is everything. If you want achieve greatness, there is no room for simple pleasure, you either are the person you want to be or you just hate yourself.

WAAAAAH I HAVE TO TRY TO IMPROVE MY SKILL WAAAAAAh

>>2816457
I agree wholeheartedly.

Cancelled my schoolism membership, sold my tablet, and threw away all of my sketchbooks.

Such a waste of time. And for what? It's completely unnecessary and serves no purpose.
Art is not needed, especially in today's society where the intellect, personality, and face reigns supreme.

To be honest, the "artistic lifestyle" seems almost like a childish endeavour at this point, and I don't mean any disrespect, but it seems like the most serious artists (asides from guys who are legit conceptartists/illustrators/porn artists but they represent a very low % of dedicated lifters) are also the people with nothing else going on in their lives.
I know this was true with me, I was biggest and most serious about drawing when I was still in uni, working only 15 hours a week, and pretty much just plucking around all the time, going out, with no real life.
To all you kids out there who are getting sucked into the comerical art , try to stop yourself.
So long as you have and maintain decent facial aesthetics, you'll be fine.
Art just not worth it.

Toodle loo.

If God was just, he would allow everyone the same opportunities. If he was merciful, he would kill all that won't make it anyway.

That is if the God exists. I should really just hang myself and be done with this whole bullshit. Will I make it? Maybe? Fuck that.

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>>2816584
this is unironically every 10 or 20 threads on /ic/

i truly cannot wrap my head around why people make these crybaby threads and not just practice lmao

>>2816591
More like every 5 posts my dude

>>2816588
why are you even trying? the best artists were always going from the earliest years of their lives. You shouldnt start after your 20s, because you are so behind its almost impossible to catch up. Sure faggots on /ic/ say otherwise but they are not good. They are beginners too, that wish to be skilled one day. Its a wish. If I could see you all in 5 years from now, all of you who started late would already be doing something else.

>>2816599
It ain't 1700s anymore pal. It's 2017.

>>2816591

To start conversation with like minded people about their frustrations. Most of which non-artists do not readily understand.

The most natural feeling in the world with something that requires excessive work and dedication to do even adequately is to feel overwhelmed and upset.

Some people obviously don't have that kind of problem with self confidence or understanding that they will be terrible for a long time.

But it's completely normal for people who are upset to want to reach out to others about that problem.

Annoying, sure, but "cannot wrap your head around" is either the talk of a delusional idiot of someone who doesn't have the emotional understanding of how people work.

>>2816599
MUH LIGAMEME
MUH NEUROPLASTICINE

IM BAD SO YOU SHOULDNT TRY
t. (you)

>>2816607
i dont even know what the fuck those buzzwords mean. I am just stating a fact, that if you are behind, its almost impossible to catch up. Hey, ask anyone that is a professional, they will tell the same.

>>2816617
No you ask a professional and they say that you need to put work in and improve and that takes effort, something you seem to hate actually doing. Kys.

>>2816618
*kiss
learn too spell retard

>>2816618
its fucking worthless, they (that kind of working people you asked) will always tell that so you wont be discouraged. Seek the actual professional artists that wont bullshit you and wont give the same ol' "everyone can do it, you just have to believe in yourself" shit. They are down to earth and will tell the actual truth.

You think that if artists were saying to the common folk that art is not worth to pursuit, would they look better to them? No, they dont want any bad reputation or negativity around them.

Be real.

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>started drawing 11 days ago
>spent the last 5 hours practicing instead of whining about practicing on /ic/
Am I doing it wrong? Should I be here moping like
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>>2816599
These retarded faggots and complaining about how hard it is instead of actually doing it?

I feel bad for myself that I chose drawing as my career path. It's really not worth the effort you have to put in compared to other fields. I thought that this is a good idea because I like drawing and I can get some money from that.

You have to train several years in order to get the lowest paid jobs and there is always a risk that you wont get anything. Why the fuck I thought this was a good idea

>>2816631
how old are you? because if you are older than 20, you wont make it. take my advice so you wont cry later on.

>>2816634
The reward from being able to draw to any animefag/mangafag is an absolute blessing. To some people on /ic/, when they even mention money, it just seems funny. It's like, why are you even drawing?

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>>2816635
I'm 26 and there's nothing you can do to stop me because I enjoy it. Just because you suck balls doesn't mean I will kek just end yourself if that's your point of view why are you even fucking here?

>>2816636
I won't fill my stomach with that crap.

Fuck, I hate to say it but this thread made me realize I was doing hard work for nothing. Call me a quitter or a loser, I dont fucking care. I wasted many nights in order to be relatively decent and I still got shit from that. What a fucking joke, gotta buy some alcohol brb

>>2816641
i thought we were talking about achieving professional quality of work. If you want to be a hobbyist, thats okay. Thats great actually, because drawing may be fun as a hobby. Its not fun as a work.

>>2815762
Nonsense. Art is fun. If you're doing nothing but studying and trying too hard to reach artistic godhood while never taking time to just draw shit for the hell of it, of course you're going to be fucking miserable. Make up some characters and little stories for them, draw that. Maybe try going on a drawing board like flock mod and make stupid shit with artfriends, participate in a drawthread on /b/, anything like that.
If you don't have a purpose for your drawing, if you don't have any reason to enjoy it, you're doing it wrong. Art is one of those things where you can't live by bread alone, so to speak- you have to have some passion, a driving idea that propels you.

For me, my driving passion is that I've developed a lot of characters and story concepts in my head that I'd like to see brought to life someday.
That, and I just think art is hella rad.

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>>2816645
I do want to achieve a "professional" quality of work, you're bitter because you haven't maybe if you spent more time working on it instead of whining and trying to drive others away you'd git gud instead of being a dumb cunt. Just for you I'm gonna do another hour of work feels gud being neet 2bh.

>>2816648
Great, another fucking retard. Of course drawing may be fun IF YOU COULD ACTUALLY DRAW

YOU FUCKING WORTHLESS BASTARDS KEEP SAYING THE SAME SHIT

WHAT, YOU GONNA PLAY WITH STICKMEN?

>>2816653
i am bitter because i started too late. Cant tell whos fault it is.

or maybe i know. Its the fault of people who were saying that i can make it no matter what. That was the biggest pile of shit i ever heard.

>>2815762
i hate you for wasting the thread space with your self-absorbed post. its not too late to git gud. take it from a man who has squandered his youth.

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>>2816657
Nah you're just bitter because you're a bitter dumb cunt and thought you could just slide right into skill and not have to work for it. Sad!

>>2816641
have you really never drawn before until 11 days ago? jesus what have you been doing before then, sticking your head in your ass? Try not to get overwhelmed.

>>2816662
Pretty much, overwhelmed by what it's not like I have to go paint the Sistine Chapel tomorrow.

>>2816659
i love how you are so stupid that you dont even understand what are we talking about. In theory everyone can learn art, in real life someone that is 50 years old and at the same skill level as 20 years old guy is worthless. If its a hobby, thats okay. In any other instance, he is worth nothing. If someone is better than you and younger than you, theres no reason to get better.

Keep dreaming, you certainly will make it because you believe it! How can you fail if you think that you wont? Great guy.

>>2816676
Keep sperging, you certainly won't make it because you believe it!

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hey, hey guys, i just had fun with drawing, pic rel


although i couldnt make anything like i wanted to, i still had tons of FUN, because drawing is FUN, as you told me. No matter that I cant do anything, its FUN FUN FUN

so this fag is mad because theres people younger than him or some shit? i thought we had mods to remove this garbage.

>>2816676
lol no. if anything the 50 year old guy's art would be more interesting because he isn't some dumb young cunt who grew up infront of a computer screen and whose visual library consists of generic space marines and anime tits.

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I literally only come to /ic/ for this shit. People that didn't even doodle when they were kids but whine about not being good the second they start drawing always make my day.

>>2816688
He probably whines about everything like this but decides to clog up the board with this shit and sperg out about how muh professionals muh youths who started in the womb bullshit.

>>2816676
So if someone is good that means everyone who came out of their mothers cavern before should just immediately quit all effort and take up any sort of drug habit to fill in the time? Just wait to die.

So this is what bitterness tastes like

>>2816688
Wrong. The real issue with your kind is that you think everyone is able to do what you can do. So if someone doesnt do as good as you, you just dismiss their persona. Same with fags that say math is easy.

Hurr durr it's easy because it's easy for me! Fucking retards with no awareness whatsoever.

>>2816693
Not everyone but most of them for sure.

>>2816694
how does this retard not see the irony

>hurr its impossible because i never achieved it despite never bothering to put genuine effort into it

>>2816697
I am certain I put too much effort.

>>2816699
post your art

>>2816700
No need, I know I am shit and I hate it because I put too much effort with little result. I am mad because you keep shilling this thinking that everyone can make it and drawing is fun, neither is true unless you are gifted in at least some way.

>>2816704
wow you really are a dumb cunt end your life already please

No you've got issues going on there. Drawing should be fun even when you're bad at it. Forcing yourself to get better when you feel bad about drawing is a bad idea. Treat the underlying issue of your negativity.

And if you feel fine but don't like drawing I don't know what to tell you. You don't like it now then you won't like it later even if you get good. Find something else that brings you joy in life.

>>2816706
Great post, now I know you are talentless hacks that don't even stick to your own rules.

>>2816708
Anyone else not feel fun but not boring either from drawing? Like, it's just a state of I'm so focused on the drawing itself, that I feel no emotion. Just logical thinking about line angle or what color to render.

>>2816706
>Wow you're dumb
Says the person who doesn't have the common sense to realize it's wrong to be cruel and disrespectful to other people. If you don't take what i've said to heart and continue to be mean to people then that will make you stupid. Shape up and stop being such a bad person.

And you should apologize to that anon for talking to them that way.

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>>2816635
All of you need to fuck off. Yeah, art isn't easy. Not everyone is going to be a legend. You may never make great money off of it, or make it a fully fledged career. Starting later in life means that you won't be like those 'talented' kids that got a headstart on you.

But honestly, /ic/, fuck your goddamn memes, and fuck your bitching, moaning, and crying. Art may be hard, but it's not impossible. It's a craft, just like any other, built on specific principles that can be learned. For example: Drawing, the foundation of pretty much any artistic craft. Boiled down to its practical essence, drawing is simply portraying 3d objects on a 2d surface. It's the 3D rendering program of the human mind. Learning to draw is, first and foremost, a matter of understanding how to portray simple 3d forms, draftsmanship, and hand-eye coordination. That's basically it. Sure, it takes study and practice to develop and subsequently apply those skills, but with perserverance and creativity put into it, it's not really any harder to learn than anything else you've ever learned before.
Art isn't some mystical ooga booga bullshit. People do it because they like it, and like music, it entertains others. Art is an expression of yourself. You don't have to make it a career, you can do it just for shits and giggles, a hobby, something constructive and worthwhile to do. And if you really want to jump off the cliff and see if you can fly... Godspeed, you crazy bastard. Make us proud.

Quit trying to put people down, you guys. Admonish, uplift, and instruct, give advice and practical tutelage. Don't propagate myths and superstition. We're all in this together, let's give each other the help to succeed.

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>>2816713
do i have to repeat it? end your life you retarded faggit this board and the world will improve from your absence

>>2816696
There are some hopeless cases of course but a lot of people just have different circumstances in life and didn't make it before they're some kind of 20something- its just useless self pity to think like that.

I did that a lot and regret the energy that could have been used for literally anything else

>>2816720
What are you now?

>>2816729
I'm 24, will be 25 in a few months but seriously regret wasting the last 5 years being depressed and scattered. I'm not a kid anymore but I'm still young and am not gonna spend the next 5 wondering "aw man what IF I did thisorthat where would I be/it's not fair/whywhywhy" and not do anything at all. Fuck that.

>>2816740
>implying you're going to get anywhere
it's too late for you, just give up

>>2815762
OP on suicide watch

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>>2816742
I am implying such a thing and will not but thanks for that (You) anyway

>>2816740
>24
>still young

at 24 you should be an established artist, but whatever floats your boat.

>>2816817
lol

>>2816817
Where did this
>you have to be successful at a young age meme
come from? It's ruined my life and I hate every single person who says this now.

>>2816457
Yeah, I just don't get it. Why spend years memorizing difficult concepts ad doing the same exercises over and over again just for the chance of being good at something?

>>2816546
Ambition gets you places, but sheer love for what you do gets you to the top.
Especially because it won't even matter.
This is art ffs, if you don't draw from that well it's over before you even start

ah whatever it's a bait thread
thanks for wasting people's time

>>2816831
>anon thinks it's bait
No, this is the truth. This is how people feel inside of their head instead of the bullshit they spew to you about how they know exactly what they're doing.

>>2816824
It's common knowledge that it's easier to learn stuff when you're young. If you want people to ignore facts because they hurt your feelings go to Tumblr.

>>2816716
Where do you think you are?

/ic/ is a board on 4chan. Did you expect positive vibes? If you want good critique and good vibes head on over to conceptart.

>>2816819
>>2816824
How the fuck you want to succeed when younger people than you get jobs you can only dream of? You cant be old and not skilled, 24 is the age where you should be at least somehow good and get money already. If not, you wont catch up to others. There will be always someone who will steal your job and you wont be able to do anything about it. Because guess what - they improve aswell.

>>2816847
>positive vibes
fuck off to deviantart if you want "positive vibes". The fuck are you even talking about fool? There is nothing positive about professional world of art, you can get dicksucking only on your shitty fanarts on some shitty websites.

>>2816863
if that's true how the fuck will kids being born today become artists? you're full of shit, use your brain

>>2816867
They will get educated and get jobs after people that died/retired. Are you mentally challenged?

>>2816868
hahaha so in your world only every third generation is going to train in the arts?

>>2816847
you have to go back

>>2816870
Nah, obviously more and more places are being created where you can work as an artist, that doesnt mean you dont have to be skilled. Its opposite, the competition is so strong that you cant be behind if you want the best jobs out there. Sure you can do book covers for $20, but I am not talking about that crap.

>>2816863
Not the Anon you replied to but jobs where? Child prodigies can have all the videogame concept art jobs in the world for all I care.

There are a million paths to be made with drawing, maybe you won't strike gold but who cares. Again if you love what you're doing there's a chance you can make a living with it, and that's enough.

Being too old to start is just an excuse, in the end you should do this regardless if that's something you love. Heck I'd still be drawing if some all-seing god came down from the sky and told me I would never, ever make it.

>>2816873
>Heck I'd still be drawing if some all-seing god came down from the sky and told me I would never, ever make it.

this is why /ic/ is fucking shit. You are just plain delusional.

>>2816872
>Sure you can do book covers for $20, but I am not talking about that crap.
>It's either $20 commissions or six figure jobs in the movie industry
There's a lot going on between the two scenarios...

>>2816875
Don't clue him in. The less people that know the less competition.

>>2816874
What I meant to say is that I can't see myself quitting to draw regardless. There's really no point in fretting about making it, being too old, and all that shit. You should love it to a point where making it or not making it is irrelevant.

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>>2816876
i love how you talk about it like you had any clue about it. You are just a bunch of hobbyists that want to be something more.
>clue me in
please, dont do that. The laughter would kill me.

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>>2816882
>i-i don't care at all, i'm SO unphased i LOVE it
stay triggered retard

>>2816882
I don't understand if you just wanna start a flame war. There IS a lot going on between slave labor and millions of dollars, unless there's a conspiracy going on where artists who make a decent living with it are all fakes.

>>2816879
> You should love it to a point where making it or not making it is irrelevant.
Again, you treat it like something to be done for fun. I can't imagine anyone who actually is financially dependent on it that would treat it just as pure fun. I dont care about that if im fucking starving.

Thats how I know why this thread is one big pile of useless shit. You treat is as a hobby while some have to survive on that. As I said before, I cant understand why do you put joy and fun before anything else. The real world isnt about that.

>>2816895
>The real world
Heh
You're delusional as fuck.

>>2816895
Are you really saying that one cannot possibly like his job? Cmon man.

>>2816896
The real world is about money you fucking neets, but you dont know that because you either get autism buck or your mommy gives you tendies every day. Even if not, you wont make it in art. People will give you comissions for $5 because you do it for fun anyway.

>>2816901
Oh sorry, I forgot
>inb4 art has to be about money

right, enjoy your scraps

>>2815762
Sunk cost fallacy. You can't go back and un-waste that time, so just focus on drawing in the present.

>>2816898
I like my job but I would never put anything before money. You go to work to earn money first, then everything else. You would know that if you actually worked.

>>2816907
Babby's first job.

>muh money
Dumb kid probably got done watching some film about rich people and is gung ho about his "real" world views revolving around debt based currency.

>>2816907
I'm sorry that your life is so miserable? What can I say, unless you're just trying to bait I hope you find happiness. That said I'm outta here.

>>2816912
Right, because its better to get imagination based currency you call fun. Shame it wont make your hunger disappear.

>>2816915
What the fuck are you talking about? My life is miserable, because I am working for money? Well, the entire planet must be fucking sad then.

>>2816631
> started 11 days ago
> already practicing 5 hours a day

GIVE ME YOUR SECRETS, NIGGA. I've got a hard time doing more than 20 minutes every 3 days. I've been doing it for 4 months.

>>2816918
The secret is to draw and that's it. I kid you not. Maybe stretch here and there, but just draw. It's quite simple.

>>2816919
Just drawing doesnt teach you anything. You have to work smart, not hard.

>>2816917
>imagination based currency
There's a reason no one in this thread engages you seriously, and people are just here to trigger you - because you're a repulsive person. What kind of reply is this? You have no idea what I'm talking about evidenced by your inability to even parody what I'm saying, and choose to go off on a sarcastic tirade. I won't bother reading your reply, I already know the gist of it. The only thing more predictable than an idiot is an arrogant one.

>>2816922
Just drawing teaches you a ton, people who don't draw, don't know I guess.

>>2816927
Well I draw a lot and I still do the same mistakes. Its shit.

>>2816923
Fuck off then, I wont discuss with a simpleton who would rather sink in childish endeavours than in real, professional world of dedicated people. I can do it by myself, without worthless pricks like yourself.

>>2816929
I guess you don't draw a lot because you just proved my point about how it teaches you a ton, it taught you that you make the same mistakes. Maybe fix them, but I guess, you don't have to, if you don't want to.

>>2816933
I mean I still dont have trained eye and my drawings are still crooked. They are the same level of quality as pieces I did 2 months ago. So I cant say that i dont want to fix my mistakes, I just cant.

>>2815762
Because all you care about is money, if you don't like drawing - stop.

>>2816935
Those words of yours like "I just cant" really tells a person a lot. Like maybe you just need to try doing stuff that you couldn't instead of stuff that you can do. Being stuck in the same place for two months is pretty bad. It's a sign that you probably aren't really working at it because you regress and have to work back up every time you stop. It's a death cycle, so be careful not to stop drawing or your skills rust.

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>>2816931
stop wasting people's time

>>2816948
stop wasting people's air and end yourself trash

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>>2816918
I just have a daily routine my nigga and I stick to it.

First I do warmup and basic shit for an hour, mostly the shit Peter Han showed in that video just lines and arcs and then circles and then shapes and try to draw different shapes from different angles.

Then I do gestures and try to draw figures for an hour, after that I do portraits and face parts for an hour from references that I take from mostly /s/ and /hm/.

After that I spend an hour or so going through exercises or watching tutorials on youtube and trying to emulate them or just trying out something new while they play.

Finally I try to take an hour on shit that really escapes me, which atm is basically everything but I've been spending the hour trying to do more realistic body parts, looking at anatomy or trying to draw cubes in perspective.

Obviously I take breaks between them but I use the timer on win10 to keep track of my time, it has a stop watch and a countdown built in just time clock into the search bar. It'll let you know when the timer ends.

Basically I just fucking draw mang.

It's funny because people treat art like some kind of sport where all that matters is being better than the others. But hey, listen here, skill in art is not a goal, is an instrument, the main point of art is creativity, the ability to put on paper everything that's on your mind.
There will always someone better than you but nobody IS you. Just put on paper what makes you unique

>>2816847
Yeah, how could I forget such a thing :/

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>>2816923
>the only thing more predictable than an idiot is a predictable one

Backedthefuckoff.mp3

>>2817037
>Arrogant one
Dammit

>>2815762
>>2816457

I'm not into Fight Club memes but this scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HINIK3pIOp4 didn't resonate on a deeper level with me until a few years ago when I clued in on how non-committal people in general are about what they want to do with their life. What the purpose is, what do they aspire to do, et cetera.

OP, old proverb: the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the second best time is now. If someone holds a gun to your head and asks you what you want to do for the rest of your life, "make the best art I possibly can" better be one of your answers, otherwise you're in the wrong game. And you better have at least a remotely sensible plan to go about doing that.

And here's the kicker: you need to give yourself a good enough to do this to make the journey of it, in and of itself, fun. If you can't do this then you're obviously not going to find the studying and the drawing practice fun.

You need to surround yourself with good art. I mean really fucking good art that moves you and shows a high degree of artistic and technical proficiency. And then you need to find ways to move yourself towards the ideals you see in this art work.

Another thing - don't worry about other artists, about competition et cetera, until you learn how to push through your own failures, your own insecurities and align your mind with your goals. It isn't a sprint, it's a marathon. It's the rest of your life.

>>2816495

It's not as bad as you think. Again, conviction. You've given yourself no choice but to pursue your craft because the only thing that can stop you is you.

>>2816716

I second this but in my (granted, limited) experience, people who call things "hobbies" show stunted growth and over all lack of discipline. Let's not do this for shits and giggles. Play to win, don't half-ass it.

>>2817040
Damn that hit a lot deeper 10 years later. Considering watching it again

>>2816935
You're burning yourself out. Take a 2 day break. In the meantime take a look at art you haven't seen before, even genres you think you dislike. You're going to be back into drawing with a new perspective.

>>2817040
>Play to win
Hell yeah, motherfucker. I'm with ya on that.

>>2815762
Not everyone is a complete failure in life like you buddy.
You simply aren't cut out to be an artist.
Find a different job. One where you don't have to motivate yourself and be inspired on a daily basis. Find a job that doesn't require discipline and commitment.
Good luck.

>>2816922
Nigga, pls, I was asking how you were capable of drawing for such long periods of time.

Do you not get bored in those 5 hours? Do you not give up halfway? How are able to go on for so long?

Of course I know that just drawing is the way to learn, that is literally the first thing everyone tells me.

>>2816817
Not every single anon is /beginner/, just really socially inept and have inner problems- and yeah 24 is still young talk to people over the age of 40 sometime you might gain some perspectives

>>2816956
Mah nigga. I'm screencapping this shit.

Thank you :)

>>2816833
How people 'feel inside their heads' especially on fucking 4chan matters jack shit.