Why?

>>2814381
It's really quite simple.
She spends a lot of time painting for her patreon, while I spend a lot of time fapping to fetish porn.

>>2814385
This, I could fap her into a fucking coma.

>>2814381
She's older and had more experience. That's all.

>>2814385
>fapping
Really nigga?

>>2814394
Waxing the carrot, stroking out the juices. Yes really, nigga.

>>2814381
she has a higher autistic quotient than me which allows her to work a LOT more than me

>>2814381

she's not :3

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sakimichan has been literally doing the same rendering gimmick for all these years like Kr0n. Yeah, shes better than me at painting, but I think painting is miserable job and rather do something like animation.

Even her paintings are not that good. It just looks like generic-fantasy crap you'd see as an icon for spamware android game: just one character, no complex environments, nothing creative. Shes just like any other internet celebrity; her fame is from being in right place at the right time and knowing how to capitalize off it.

And you know what, she deserves all the flack ic gives her, because theres probably a shit-ton more skilled and passionate painters on pixiv who dont make squat compared to her. To bad /ic/ had to make a meme out of shitty artists instead of ones who aren't kim jung gi

>>2814421
hahaha holy fuuuuck you are jealous

>>2814422
are you the faggot from the other thread who goes on rants about how everyone who criticizes your artist is jealous

kys

>>2814422
die retard

The TL;DR version is: she's better than you because you're here being bitter and jealous instead of painting.

>>2814424
>>2814425
stay pleb fuckbois

>>2814422
>>2814432
t. sakimi patron

>>2814421
Git gud faggot

ive been drawing for 9 days no shit she's better than me but a better question is why are you living through some chink girl instead of gitting gud yourself op

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>>2814433
wrong

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Basically, this is every single sakimichan thread

Pathetic Yellowfever Cuckboy: sakimichan is amazing, look at how much better someone whose been painting over a decade is than someone whose been painting for two years. Just admit sakimichan is good artist.

Anon: Shes good.... but i do think-

Pathetic Yellowfever Cuckboy: POST YER WORK, GIT GUD, JEALOUS MUCH?, DUUUUUUR WHY ARE YOU POSTING HERE INSTEAD OF DRAWING

Boring art

>>2814440
nah anon why wou-

>>2814422
>>2814435
>>2814437

alrighty

>>2814440

You're presenting one side too reasonably.

These threads are generally filled by two brands of retard on opposite ends of the spectrum and it comes out to something like
>she's fucking trash
>you're fucking trash post your work
>fuck off shill you fucking cuck
>u jelly u fucking fag stop being a bitter manbaby and go draw
>sakimi defense force is here /ic/ is dead

Sycra is better than sakimichan

>>2814440
No one here actually thinks Sakimichan is amazing. They are just having fun with you easily triggered idiots. Also, you can't tell me you can read through a post like this >>2814421 and NOT see the ridiculous amount of salt and emotional investment. Obviously that makes people immediately think that person is jealous as fuck.

>>2814385
Worthwhile compromise desu

>>2814500
How am I jealous?

>I don't like to paint or digitally render
True. I don't ever want to get into any more advanced rendering that involves 4 scales of color. I don't even want to do art as a full time job.
>sakimichan draws the same crap
Do a Google search. Literally, 90% of her shit is some popular anime or video game character in front view doing a non-forshorten Standing pose with boring composition and extreme rendering. How could you deny this? It's literally right in front of your fucking face.
>I think she doesn't deserve the hype
True. Because of the reason I listed above and judging by all the other artworks I've seen on pixiv where the techniques and thoughts behind it impress me more and I think the other artists deserve more money.

Where is this salt and jealously? Give any sort of specific counterargument besides "post your work. Durr." that makes you think I'm jealous. Being jealous would mean I want to become sakimichan, which I dont.

Stop being triggered by me thinking an overrated artist is overrated.

>>2814416
post something you made then :^)

>>2814381
>is motivated by $30k-60k to draw at least 10 times a month
>started drawing earlier than me, and was already pretty good by 15.

that's why.

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she used to make more interesting works. nowadays she only cares about what will get her more money

>>2814524
save what you wrote and re-read it in 5 years, you'll see

>>2814572
>shit he called me out
>just make up some shit about how he'll grow up one day or something
nailed it

>>2814571
She'd be clinically retarded not to milk this while she still has the opportunity, 2bh.

If she can keep the gravy train running for a while longer, she'll basically be set for life, and can paint whatever the fuck she wants without worrying about anything at all.

>>2814599
She does it a couple years and she's got millions in the bank.

>>2814599
With the money she's making now, she's already set for life, provided she actually knows how to handle that money. Or she could be as dumb as a typical NBA/NFL player and go broke not long after she can't continue making such a high income.

... do you casuals actually think 60k is a lot of money to save up? What saki should really do is create an original donut steel character and market the shit out of it to make real dough.

In fact, I think you are technically stealing just by drawing fanart.

>>2814612
>... do you casuals actually think 60k is a lot of money to save up?

60k is plenty when you know what to do with it. If you're brain dead with a consumer mentality of course it won't last you.

>>2814422
>>2814432
>pretending to be retarded
>in CY+2

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I dream of threads where we actually discuss sakimichan, either her technical process or her as a person, rather than just rehashing the same old arguments.

Where does Sakimichan live? Does she want a boytoy? I could use a sugarmomma.

>>2814524
>i'm not jealous guys
>here's an extremely long rant about why i'm so butthurt that shes successful
How about you stop being a little bitch and just worry about your own art, people are successful good for them, it has nothing to do with me or you

>>2814612
>do you casuals actually think 60k
Per month? That's 720,000 per year you retard.

>draw shitty animu fanart for 3 more years
>2.16 million dollars

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>>2814381
She's not exactly that good.
But her voice makes my dick diamonds.

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>>2814616
Do you honestly think someone dependent on fanart ecchi of mainstream anime characters is smart?
>>2814626
Oh nice, so we can't criticize an artist in the thread dedicated to the artist? Is this supposed to be sakimichan: ass kissing thread?

Get the fuck away from me you casual cuck boys, you are not on my level, *elbows in the chest; causing you to fall to the ground*

>>2814612
>... do you casuals actually think 60k is a lot of money to save up?
She's making ~50k every month, you dumb fuck, what gave you the idea her savings amount to 60k?

>In Canada, the wealthiest one per cent earn an average of $381,300 a year, compared to a meagre $38,700 for the average Canadian
Even if she only gets 25k a month, she's earning more than half of the richest 1% of the population.

>>2814633
>Do you honestly think someone who turned drawing fanart ecchi of mainstream anime characters into $600,000+ individual yearly income is smart?
Smarter than anyone itt, at least.

>>2814633
>Do you honestly think someone dependent on fanart ecchi of mainstream anime characters is smart?
It's easy money and she has typical mainstream weeb tastes herself so she's a part of the demographic she sells to. She'd have to be an idiot not to cash in while she can.

>>2814636
I'd rather work a 9 to 5 and keep art as a hobby than be stuck in a room drawing pictures for mainstream nerd demographics I don't give a shit about.

>>2814633
>this autism
if you haven't noticed, yes, this thread was explicitly made to bait insecure losers like you to "criticize" someone whos way better than you with vague buzzwords
>>2814640
>i'd rather work a 9 to 5 than become a millionaire doing what i love
whatever floats your boat

>>2814640
Sure buddy, that's the reason

>>2814612
Are you retarded? She literally makes more money PER MONTH than 99% of regular people make per year.

>>2814648
w-well I'd rather have m-my artistic i-i-i-integrity and survive by sucking off hobos for s-sustenance t-t-than draw a-animu fanart f-f-for losers on the internet, amirite g-guise?

>>2814500
So are people who make money just fucking immune to any form of criticism because people like you can think it just boils down to "rofl jealous"?

>>2814643
>implying
Drawing shit you don't like for people you care about is not "doing what you love". Try again.

>>2814650
Did you even read that post?

>>2814651
>for people you don't care about

>>2814640
Then you are a complete fucking idiot. You'd rather waste your life away working at a 9 to 5 job than spend 2-3 years drawing shit for nerds and have total financial security for the rest of your life?

>>2814646
You probably couldn't even land a solid 9 to 5 in the first place. Most artists who resort to selling fan-art/porn can't. Of course pandering to weebs online would be your only option for an income.

>>2814654
You're the only fucking moron if you think you can't get total financial security from a decent 9-5. Shitheads like you would go broke the moment you lost your job. You don't know how to handle money.

>>2814651
Sakimichan has been drawing and posting animu fanart since she was in highschool. What makes you think she doesn't like it?

Also, even if she absolutely hates it. In just a few years, she will have made more money than you can make working a 9 to 5 job in your lifetime. She will literally be set for life while she's still in her late 20s and at that point, she can do whatever she wants and truly follow her passion without ever having to worry about money.

>>2814655
>he actually solved the captcha to post such weak bait
sad

>>2814659
>what is reading comprehension?

Sounds like I'm in a thread full of fucking teenagers. Amazing.

>>2814657
>You're the only fucking moron if you think you can't get total financial security from a decent 9-5.

I never said that you idiot. You can, in exchange for 40+ working hours per week. I'm just saying, you are utterly retarded if you in all seriousness believe working in a 9 to 5 job for the rest of your life is preferable to being a self-made millionaire in your 20s while drawing animu fanart.

>>2814663
>I'm just saying, you are utterly retarded if you in all seriousness believe working in a 9 to 5 job for the rest of your life
>for the rest of your life
This is your autism projecting because you don't understand how to manage money. Working a 9-5 for the rest of your life is only necessary for the financially illiterate who only know how to consume shit and not invest in anything to make that money grow.

>>2814666
t. child

>>2814668
>implying
I doubt you know what a bill looks like.

>>2814670
Flash your bills

>>2814651
you think she could pull 18 hour days if she didn't truly love it? she obviously likes what she draws or she would have broken down already, you might not like it but no one gives a fuck about you

>>2814717 see >>2814662

>>2814649
Listen up fucktard.

No one gives a crap about artistic integrity. Drawing fanart is a shitty way of getting rich. You want to know how artists got rich in history? By licensing fees and royalities. All you stupid teenage fucks who grew up pirating anime on the internet don't have a sense of what ownership is. Fanart is something for popularity, but actually trying to use it to make money is literally stealing. Why do think there's been so many fan games shut down throughout time by nintendo? Any major money you are taking away from the creator is going to comeback and bite your ass.

>>2814765
Ok but nothing bites saki.

I think the secret is....I should return to how it was when I was a kid and try to blindly absorb elsewhere and forget /ic/ advice. I'd be better off desu. It just makes sense.

Sakimichan is far from my favorite artist, but she's also far more accomplished in every way than the failures posting in these comments.

>>2814743
do you have autism or something? the post you quoted is from her perspective , and she is doing what she loves

>>2814421
Sounds more frustrated than jealous. Being critical of others in your field is not only natural but makes sense simply as a learning experience. The vitriol certainly doesn't help though. Stay focused. I have a hard time thinking that your angst is productive, unless you are able to use it as a source of inspiration or otivation.. but there are much better sources. Be objectively critical, not personally judgmental.

>>2814838
>implying her situation is applicable to everyone
>implying every market is equally lucrative

Nice autism, anon. Just like the retards in this thread that pretend working a 9-5 is the end of the world or can't even be enjoyable. Half of you probably couldn't land a good 9-5 if you tried. You're that much of a degenerate to society.

>>2814606
one of her voice over videos said she's not spending and saving up for a house

>>2814851
So are you on your lunch break right now or just browsing porn at work?

>>2814381
What i hate about her on top of many things is the "I did X character because i am die hard fan of X series", i get you want to milk dry the cash from the fans of every single existing IP that is out there but don't lie by saying you actually watch and care about all those fucking anime shows and obscure characters nobody ever heard of.
Fucking shabbos goys, its like integrity and art aren't meant to be together.
This artist is an total enigma, went from legit "want to be the very best, pokemon catch them all " to every otaku's whore artist, like that grill from Shindol's Emergence manga or whatever is called.

>>2814381
qute anime girls with big breasts
with "pls support patreon for wank versions" cant not work out

>>2814381
Honestly? Because I'm still only practicing when I want to at this point and I'm not as passionate about it as she is.

That said people like Saki make me less passionate about the field for the reasons >>2814765 pointed out.

>>2814381
Because she practices and loves what she does.

She's not afraid of putting herself out there like I am, plus she knows what people like and delivers

>character people like
>pretty face
>pretty colors

>>2814626
I'd hate to see how long it takes you to get through a book if you consider a paragraph of text to be "an extremely long rant"

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>>2814631
>her voice makes my dick diamonds

Her voice is shit, get some taste.

>>2814572

That implies jealousyposters come from a standpoint of maturity rather than being mentally 17 and likely seeing no path for themselves to become artistically accomplished

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>>2814421

Sakimichan's Patreon is THE redpill to this 'artistic integrity' nonsense. It's a pill is so strong that some rather stay artistically bluepill and be poor than live comfortably doing stupid fanart porn fetish .

Starving artists, enjoy your 'integrity'. Take pride in the fact your avant-garde work might get noticed once your dead.

>>2815303

its not that good except as an entry job

a lot of your followers are so obnoxious too

>>2814640
She is working 9 to 5 you giant fucking retard this is her full time job.

>>2814631
Do you have a voice over of her you can share?

>>2815315
>earning more money than any industry artist in the history of mankind
>only good as an entry job
It is blatantly obvious to anyone with a brain which option has the lower ceiling here.
protip: it's not the crowdfunded charity that is patreon

>im better then this woman because my 9 to 5 muh NINE TO FIVE you dont know how to save my minimum wage 9 to 5 is better than 700k per year
this nigga serious?

>>2815579

and to get that wage she has to work constantly to bring middling at best concepts to life and pander to the most unintellectual userbase, never stopping for a passion project

not my idea of a dream job

>>2815623
So she has to do boring work for hours per day and interact with idiots for her wage? Fucking hell yeah nothing like a 9 to 5 at ALL.

>>2814381
Isn't that neck too long?

>>2815625

i dont think you get what the point of art is for most people

it's not drawing the dumbest deviantart requests you receive and hoping to be the one that gets a lot of money for it

>>2815636
I don't think you get what art is for people who live off of it

It's a fucking job like any other with doing shit work for people you don't like but you do it anyway because they're fucking paying you

Maybe one day you're a big name/ the manager.

>>2815643

you're describing a different job than the OP

she has to keep drawing nonsensical slash pairings or she'll lose it, and most likely not gain it again, as someone else will take her place

if all you want is a big check coming in a couple times a month there's plenty of easier fields

>>2815662
in what fucking way is it different

she does her work that she doesnt enjoy and she gets paid for it

she happens to get paid like an executive for this work

>>2815665

alright if you think higher minded things are no big deal prostitutes can make 100s per hour

shit why don't we all do that

>>2815672
>alright if you think higher minded things are no big deal
the fuck are you even talking about

>ugh you can do this with 9 to 5
>gosh higher minded things you should just be a prostitute

>>2814381
Every Sakimi thread always boils down to

Artistic integrity vs Money

Heres the answer:
if you need money its money
if you don't its integrity

>>2815674
shut the fuck up already, you are obviously a retard who doesnt understand that not everyone wants to be an art prostitute and would rather pursue art for its limitless potential

god this board is fucking ridiculous with shilling low skill trash that panders to even bigger trash

>>2815687
nice bait

>art prostitute
>she's still better than you
drawing for 8 hours a day doing her job sure has a negative effect on her skill

>>2815688
I wonder what would happen to a person that doesnt have to do anything other than deviantart requests. Oh yeah, I do know what happens - that person stagnates and does only what she gets money for.

I guess someone would like that, its okay. But to say this is the best and only way to pursue art is to make you look like a fool and a pleb. Thats the issue here.

>>2815691
>But to say this is the best and only way to pursue art is to make you look like a fool and a pleb. Thats the issue here.
kek

the issue is your autism about day jobs but art is her day job and thats the point

she can not only do her own studies and personal art but she can also spend 6 hours doing the shit she puts on patreon and i dont know why thats such a really hard concept for you to grasp

You know what, I am going to hide every single thread from now on that is about art "celebs". Its one big pile of shit of nonsense, not a single thing of worth is here. Would be awesome if other people do the same.

mad, jealous, ngmi, prodigy, integrity, money. Same shit in every thread. Fuck this and fuck you.

>>2815303
Better dead than red

>>2815303
perfect

>>2815725
stay assblasted faglord

>>2815303
Only hobbyists care that much about money.
People who really love art just need enough to have a shelter and eat. If you're going to dedicate your life to art you don't need all the superflous luxuries normal people need to fill their empty lives. Live and die for oyur art, everything else is a distraction

>>2815893
Only hobbyists care that much about money.
People who really love acting/music/science/engineering/entrepreneurship/real estate/pimping/dictatorship just need enough to have a shelter and eat. If you're going to dedicate your life to acting/music/science/engineering/entrepreneurship/real estate/pimping/dictatorship you don't need all the superflous luxuries normal people need to fill their empty lives. Live and die for oyur acting/music/science/engineering/entrepreneurship/real estate/pimping/dictatorship, everything else is a distraction

*teleports behidn yuo*
*tips fedora*
"pshh... nothin personnel kid"

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>>2815893
No.

>>2815905
>>2815903
Spot the materialists shits. Really, why you need all those money?
What is that you need so much to buy that you worship shitty money so much?
Can't you live without a 100k car?
Can't you live without a giant house?
Can't you live without whatever shit you are so addicted to?
Money are a nice bonus, but nothing else, only the most shallow people worship them

>>2815921
Spot the materialists shit. Really, why you need all those money?
What is that you need so much to buy that you worship shitty money so much?
Can't you live without a 10k car?
Can't you live without a 2 bedroom apartment in a dilapidated building?
Can't you live without whatever shit you are so addicted to?
Money are a nice bonus, but nothing else, only the most shallow people worship them

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>>2815929
Meme potential spotted

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>>2814620
So, the linear and simple colour with Adobe flash, next SAI to put shadow brushes and lights (and colour mixing), next Illustrator to add specific hair details and other minuscle shadows, and last, photoshop to change brightness and shit.
Over 9E3 hours m8... gonna make this with that way...

>>2814381
Because she finishes her garbage unlike I do with mine.

>>2815929
You'll understand once your parents are no longer giving you their money.

>>2815981
>So, the linear and simple colour with Adobe flash, next SAI to put shadow brushes and lights (and colour mixing), next Illustrator to add specific hair details

kek what are you smoking anon

More 'talented". Probably put more work into it.

She's half my age, probably.

So my ship's completely sailed. Looking at her art reminds me of how much I failed as a younger person.

Looking at her art also reminds me that she makes a shit load of money, god damn.

>>2814381
She paints for 30 hours a day 12 days a week. That's why. I hate her style, I hate her pictures and I'm jelly that she's been so successful but man if I don't commend her for her work ethic holy shit. She works hard but unfortunately she doesn't experiment enough. Whatever, she must be happy with where she's at so good on her.

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Sakimichan has always done the exact same kind of artwork she does now. pic related is from before she even discovered patreon. it's not like she made artistic sacrifices and went the fanart and yaoi route just for cash. it's what genuinely likes.

>>2816095
her video process shows she spends about 4-6 hours on average on each of those pieces. and for the past few months has only been posting about 10 times a month. it's the 14th of january and she's only done 3 new paintings. she doesn't work that hard.

>>2815096
I'm open to suggestions of artists with qt voices.

>>2815506
Got a video from cgpeers, there's some stuff from her patreon there.

>>2815929
By your logic we should be painting in cave walls while eating only the absolute essential.

This thread is amazing

>>2816136
Thanks bro

>>2816085
>>2816118
>reponding seriously to the meme pasta instead of the actual comment

Still I think he has a point. Doing what you love as a job is the best thing in the world, just getting enough money to survive and not be a wageslave is more than enough.

>>2815506
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3K_EaSjyhE

>>2816380
Oh my dick

>>2815903
>Only hobbyists care that much about money.
>>2815945