What happened to architecture?

>>2813941
It got expensive
We hired engineers instead

https://vimeo.com/101804860
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNI07egoefc

>>2813953

Not true, it has more to do with modernist ideology. It's not necessarily more expensive to build a house in a more classic style of architecture if modern methods are used.

Contemporary architecture is basically one giant fucking sameface.

It's really fucking sad. There are so many interesting possibilities in architecture.

>>2813953
>expensive
Wanna see expensive? Check out the heating costs for bulldings with walls of glass.

>>2813941
>artist live in countries isolated of other countries by war, high cost and time to travel, and or pride
>because of that, art stiles are born and life independently of others, so they can be easily identified
>with the end of wars, easier to travel methods, and internet now artists can influence each other from across the globe in real time, so there are no more generation where one stile rules in an geographical area
>instead of art stiles with artists to represent them, now we have art which can be identified by it's artist's name alone

what if we look at architecture?

>architects live in countries isolated of other countries by war, high cost and time to travel, and or pride
>because of that, architecture stiles are born and life independently of others, so they can be easily identified
>with the end of wars, easier to travel methods, and internet now architects can influence each other from across the globe in real time, so there are no more generation where one stile rules in an geographical area
>instead of architecture stiles with architects to represent them, now we have buildings which can be identified by it's architect

does your autism demands to know in what stile each building was made in? start by looking at what building you like, then look for the name of their architect, then look look at their body of work, then look at what inspired them, and then keep branching like that identifying what architectural elements you like

>What happened to architecture?
architecture moved on with the time, when are you going to do the same?

>>2814002
/pol/tards can't be reasoned with. To them history and evolution of the human thought are an invention by subversive omnipotent elements. I assure you they think that modern architecture is a jewish invention whose purpose is to make niggers fucking white women easier.

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>>2814002

>with the end of wars, easier to travel methods, and internet now architects can influence each other from across the globe in real time, so there are no more generation where one stile rules in an geographical area
And yet everything looks practically the same.
One would think that without cultural restraints being put on architecture we'd see more memorable, wacky-looking, interesting buildings like for example pic related.

Instead 99% of modern architecture conforms to the absoluitely most boring, unimaginative norms: steel, glass and concrete arranged into rectangles.

Fucking lazy is what it is.

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>>2814021
wtf I want to live in asymmetric houses with triangles and random shapes popping out the side now

>>2814021
for somebody with untrained eye all anime looks the same

>>2814021
>implying that mixing together a ton of styles won't end up relatively homogeneous

also the reason there aren't more "wacky" buildings like the one you posted is because they look like shit, and nobody is gonna invest millions of dollars to build a turd.

>>2814026
for somebody with their head up their ass anime constitutes all animation

>>2813941
What happened to art? What happened to cars? What happened to movies? What happened to videogames?

>>2814031
true, good things I never said that tho

>>2814037
well good thing I never said all anime looks the same either

>>2813941

The exteriors of old architecture look good, but the interiors didn't.

>>2814014

Not everything gets better with each generation. Our understanding of engineering is obviously better now, but I think very few people would argue that a modernist concrete cube is more beautiful than 19th century neo classical house.

>>2814038
no, but you (I assume you are the same anon) said all architecture looks the same, so I used something else which you might be familiar with giving the place we are as an example

>>2814028
You literally just admitted all modern architecture looks the same.

So much for MUH STYLE

>>2814048
>>2814026


He's stating that contemporary architecture doesn't look distinct in comparison to the ones in the past. Not hard to comprehend.

>>2814054
no, he's stating contemporary architecture doesn't look distinct in comparison with contemporary architecture, nice goal shifting

>>2814052
that was LITERALLY my first post in the thread, I wasn't the "stile" guy. And yes, in the internet age styles tend to emerge based on preference and trends, not based on geography, which is why many modern buildings have similar features.

>>2814054
>>2814059
I'm stating the MAJORITY of contemporary architecture is boring as shit and about as fun and inspiring as commie blocks.

For some reason modern people seem to be obsessed with "clean" looking buildings that somehow manage to have tons of frivolous features yet none of the frivolous features that could engage the eye for over a second.

But hey at least it feels like we live in the future right guys

>>2814062

Not him, but this is the most tired argument against today's architecture and only proves your ignorance to the field. It's equivalent to 15 year old kids on youtube commenting on Jimmy Hendrix videos and saying "when did music stop becoming about talent, todays music is shit". If you actually developed an interest in the art form you'd realise that good buildings are fucking everywhere and more diverse than they've ever been

>>2814067
THIS

And it really takes so little to make a building engaging!

An example would be the train station in a neighboring town of mine which would be uninteresting as fuck if they hadn't put viking-styled dragon-gargoyles protruding from the corners of the roof.

Really small details for a big building but it is enough to make it stand out from the rest.

>>2814068
And you're the equivalent of a pretentious gallery-goes who shits himself in awe when he sees "the elaborate rhythm" created from pollock filling up his anus with oil paint and farting it out on a canvas.

>>2814014
Who said anything about /pol/? Get your feelings hurt there recently or something?

>>2814002
>move on with the times

Why? The only thing that's actually advancing nowadays is technology. Everything else is either stagnating or just turning to shit. Architecture use to inspire people now it's just another thing reinforcing the idea that mediocrity is okay.

>>2814077
not at all, are you even trying anymore?

>>2814087
>not at all
Why do you keep defending glorified glass- and concrete boxes then?

>>2813941
>muh nation
>muh past
gb2 /pol/

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>>2814083

Anyone I don't like is an ebil natzee.

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Architecture was at one point both an art and craft, without computers one would need to be highly skilled drafter in order to design a building. Style and ornamentation where representations of culture, society at its current state. Now that doesn't matter because we can get a computer to do this because architecture has strayed from a regional practice to an international one
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The problem with modern architecture isn't style or simplicity its the fact that these buildings are not built for people, rather just vehicles or "Art" which is really wasteful.

My nut job theory is that it is due to the world becoming more global and consumption based that architecture is only reflective of that.

Also pic is a street that was built by people for people

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tfw fuckhuge neoclassical architecture will never become cool again in you lifetime

>>2814126
>not built for people

Sorry, but this is just such bullshit. Architecture has shifted IMMENSELY towards the human scale and experience over the last 50 years. There is more focus on the poetics of space, lighting, occupant comfort and the psychological responses to buildings than there ever has been and computers only help achieve this to a higher degree when all contexts and environmental influences on a building can be visualised and documented. The International Style and lack of regionalism in architecture could be considered a problem depending on who you're talking to, but you're talking like its a regression within making building in general. The excessive ornamentation of building by artisan craftsmen and labourers in the past are the buildings that are vehicles for art way more than modern/contemporary architecture is and I'd be much quicker to call that wasteful than blank facades and clean forms.

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>>2813941
>im 13 and listen to le beatles
>i wuz born in wrong generation

>>2814035
It's harder to corrupt video games because, you know, they have to be fun. But everything else that has traditionally been executed with artistry has been corrupted into looking like it could've been designed by anyone else. It is all a socialist ploy: everyone is the same, everyone is incapable of inspiring anyone else by making something beautiful, there is no such thing as beauty.

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>>2813941
... the modern buildings look cool as shit. Ive always like old stuff like victorian clothing, but i guess giant window filled structures fascinate me. Guess because i like mecha and machine designs.

Now, if you comparing windows 10 interface to windows xp, then we would have a deal, but im personally okay with no more gothic artitech.

You can largely thank 20th/21st century utilitarianist ideology. This is a good documentary which partly features the current state of architecture and what's wrong with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc

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>>2813941
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVHvWUKj1eU

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>>2814014
>muh progress

>>2814021
Normies don't like fun.

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Why not mix the two?

>>2813941
Communism.

>>2813941
Cherry picking nigga, kys and your family for bringing you into this world. How can retards like you even allowed use computers.

I think we are yearning for a new frontier. Once we get into space, the futurist architects will be designing stuff there. At that point earth will no longer be the setting of the future, so old root designs will reassert themselves. It's a transitional period. It may not seems that way because its been generations and it will take more generations but time is long.

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>perfect mix of modernism and tradition

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Check out Imre Makovecz's buildings they look very unique and contemporary

>>2814410
Oh god that is hideous

>>2814479
Nice

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Reminds me of those people who bitch about the new One World Trade Center and say the Twin Towers were better and they should have just rebuilt it and that the new building is ugly, despite the original towers opening and being horribly criticized for their ugliness and failing to realize the original buildings were basically a fucking deathtrap even before the planes crashed into them. Basically people bitching that owners spending millions to billions should accommodate their tastes by building shit they would like to see for buildings they'll probably never fucking step in.

I really have no idea how much more first world problem you can get if you bitch about buildings not being pretty enough.

>>2814647
>first world problem
oh god will you just shut the fuck up. socialist scum.

>>2814701
>Being annoyed that pissy millennials bitch about something not being good enough for them and have a 'rofl things were better during eras I was not alive in' makes you a socialist

You got that backwards, ignoramus. Though you're probably the type of faggot who sees two women holding hands down the street and shouts at them to stop being SJWs.

>>2813941
efficiency

>>2814774
>Straight from expressing contempt for wealth to accusations of homophobia.

Just kill yourself already.

>>2813941
Open a fucking book, read how and why modernism was born then talk.
Fucking /pol/tards spouting shit on everything without knowing anything.

>>2814215
>poetics of space, lighting, occupant comfort and the psychological responses to buildings

Oh fuck off already. "poetics of space"?
How is it even possible to be this pretentious.

Yeah, I'll take my 19th century neo classical houses over your "poetic" modernist cubes thank you.

>>2814797
>I can't use my own original though
>have to be brainwashed by (((books))) to stop seeing their art as garbage

>>2814799
I'm not saying that you have to agree with a book, just understanding how things are born and why instead of spouting shit like those old men yelling at clouds.
This is the equivalent of retards saying "WHY DON'T THEY PRINT MORE MONEY TO STOP POVERTY?".

>>2814798
This. Architecture shifted from simple comforts built on common sense to pretentious theories that demand high ceilings, wide windows, and more consideration for the negative space a facade creates than the facade itself. What a time we live in when craftsmanship in ornamentation is considered wasteful when it meets the basic goals of human comfort and dignity of the building. A concrete and glass box can be torn down in favor of another at any time, they do it in Las Vegas constantly (which must be an epicenter of architectural progress and culture), but when a building is built with craft and culture in mind good luck finding support to scrap it. Now which is more wasteful, a scrapped glass box or a building that stands the test of time?

>>2814647
I would suggest watching the "Ground Zero" episode of P&T's Bullshit. If you think the current design is born out of natural improvements to the previous era or good faith from the designers, wew boy are you wrong.

>>2813941
A lot of people already used the term: contemporary. Which should not to be confused with Modernism, and none of those examples in OPs image are modernist buildings actually.

Look up actual Modern Architecture, La Corbusier, Frank Loyd Wright, Bauhaus artists like Gropius to name a few. There are quite a diversity in there, around the world.
Admittedly, with less surface detailing, decoration and shit, but that's the surface level anyway. The houses on OP's example have quite similar proportions if you strip the details away for example. (Apart from the church obviously)

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>>2813941
The buildings below are probably the offices of some company. Of course they want the cheapest and most practical working enviroment, this is because they are not meant to be turistic sites but as I said working places. Is like expecting a factory to look like a Gothic church.

>>2814828
Finally someone who actually knows his shit. I bet the majority of the retards in this thread don't recognize a single name. The point of modernism is effectiveness over decoration.
This is also why they focus more on the shape of the building rather than the superflous decorations. A bit like in art, you can choose to have a very simple figure and composition and concentrate on the detaisl, or you can work mainly on the first two.
This for example is the Guggenheim Museum in New York.
Of course, you are free to not like it, but at least know your shit before talking

>>2814841
>Finally someone who actually knows his shit.
>knows his shit
>La Corbusier
>La

>>2814841
>Of course they want the cheapest and most practical working enviroment
See >>2813982

>>2814849
Yeah, mis-typed for sure. sry

>>2814410
This. Almost everyone else here would rather point out problems than seek solutions, because hey, it's a lot easier than applying critical thinking and creativity. OP should take more time to think of how to improve what he sees as faults as opposed to "woe is me, I'm surrounded by [insert favorite insult]."

The Bauhaus school.

Your little alt-right trash pic is cute though.

>>2814002

More or less.

>>2814862
And? What does that prove? There are other costs besides than heating.

>>2814791
>Dammit! You nailed my personality! I know, I can win the argument by telling them to kill themselves!
>Perfect!

>>2813941
You'd think neoclassical architecture would be making a big resurgence actually.

I know it is for the housing market where I live.

>>2814647
They should have rebuilt the twin towers, though.

The biggest mistake the United States made was letting 9/11 rattle them so hard they've given up most of their freedom because they responded like babies.

Rebuilding the twin towers ASAP (maybe with some structural reinforcements) and saying "business as usual" would've been the single greatest way to handle it.

>>2814785
Glass walls are not at all efficient.

>>2813941
marksism ruined the sense of tradition and identity in architecture, while taking money away from people, because God forbid the rich would afford building beautiful buildings once again. The "traditional" architecture would not work today because people simply dont have such amounts of money to spend on them, no wonder there is a need for cheap projects you can easily slap the intentional label on.

>>2814918
How do you know? Are you a fucking engineer?

the "I sit by myself at the lunchroom and argue with the teachers" starter pack

>old is good, new is bad
>nativism is good
>muh national identity
> fuck globalism
>white genocide
>hitler did nothing wrong

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>tfw the fucks in this thread don't even know what modern architecture stands for and why it looks the way it does
>tfw /ic/ doesn't know fucking art history

>>2814985

>le smug liberal post modernist apologist

>>2814918
also thousands of birds die against them daily

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>>2817164
>art history

It's like two irrelevant things for the price of one! At least you can still afford to post reaction images from your fifteen year old flip phone you broke ass bitch lmoa

>>2817194
why are you even here if you don't care about art history

>>2817164
>I have no arguments but I'm still a smug asshole the post