Perspective on bodies

>>2808782
It's just a cathedral with titties. Learn to draw cathedrals in perspective and add titties.

>>2808782
Anatomy is basic shapes
Nigga why you gotta make me say this...LOOMIS

>>2808782
If you can draw tubes in perspective there shouldn't be a problem. Otherwise I don't think you've "learned perspective."

>>2808782
nobody on this fucking board knows

>>2808796
>Your drawing is rejected and no one really seems to know what is wrong
been there

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Learn some basic perspective. learn some basic anatomy. Then read this book.

>>2808868
I bought that book and it's shit.

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>>2808782
>learned perspective
>not understanding how important the eyeline is or what it does.

>>2808877
What's shit about it?

>>2808794
>>2808796
what book are these from?

>>2808905
are you talking about the thread pic? what's wrong with it lol

>>2808929
No idea, but it's Loomis.

>>2808782

Look up krenz.

It's mostly eyeballing and educated guess work.
Source: every skilled artist ever I've seen footage of drawing from

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>>2808877
I wouldn't buy the book either, but Ive certainly pirated worse :0)

If you like to copy the stuff inside the book to study then it seems like it would be good for that.

>>2808877
>>2808974
so wait, what makes the book bad? I'd like to download it, but if it's shit I'll stay away from it. But it seems good... I think? What's wrong with it?

>>2808991
It's hackneyed and you wont get anything out of it that you wouldn't find in other books. What it does have going for it though is a lot of clear illustrations in different poses which would be good for copying.

>>2809037
What would you recommend reading instead?

>>2809156
Personally I think for figure construction you can't go wrong with Vilppu Drawing Manual plus Proko's figure video course together.

But I would recommend downloading as much as you can and looking through it to find stuff that clicks with however you like to learn.

>>2808929

Andrew Loomis - Figure Drawing: For All It's Worth

Worth every penny for the hard copy.

Design Doll and practice. Give it two weeks of 4+ hours every day and you'll be able to foreshorten any limb at any angle.

>>2809568

Dumbest thing I've ever read on this board.
What is your criteria for "able"? It takes years of practice to get good at this kind of thing anon

>>2809641
>What is your criteria for "able"? It takes years of practice to get good at this kind of thing anon
Never gonna make it with that mindset.
You can basically learn any technique in a month.
If you keep telling yourself you'll need years to learn it you'll never end up learning it.

>>2809822

Okay show me an artist that could draw Kim Jung Gi tier foreshortening with a month of training.

>>2808782
like OP, I don't understand perspective when it's on characters,
if I want to draw the same pose as the OP's picture, how do I know how to draw the arm in foreshortening ? Is it the same vanishing point that the rest of the body ?

>>2809835

Saying somebody is able to do something is a far sight different than saying they're able to do something like kjg, don't be retarded.

>>2808782
Nigga just use boxes lmao

>>2808974
>that skull
>those clavicles
don't copy this book

>>2808905
eyeline lol?
you mean horizon line.

>>2809566
Thank you

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>>2808782

Just use this guide and memorize proportions.

>>2809982

Figure proportions are segmented into fours. From what I got from books, it seems to be:

front: Top of head->nipples->bottom of rectus abdominus->bottom of pattela->bottom of feet

back: top of head -> middle of scapula -> middle of gluteus maximus -> bottom of femur -> bottom of feet

>>2808782
Pick apart some 3D models and break everything down into boxes. Be sure to learn how to do basic forms on top of this.

Either that or learn through life drawing

https://sketchfab.com/Uyeno/collections/my-references?cursor=24

>>2808782
>>2811689

Be sure you understand how boxes move in perspective before you try to break them apart on the human figure or else you won't get it

>>2811695
>>2811689
>>2808782
Also, be sure to pick challenging poses to learn from once you grow accustomed to easy, stiff poses.

You'll come to realize how the human bodies spine/major forms move in the best way possible. (Head, Rib cage, pelvis)

>>2808782
Draw the guide shapes and intentionally make them overlap as much as possible then build them up until you get perspective.

>>2808794
>>2808798
I'm literally retarded
Could someone explain why the diagonals are so important? I've read a million versions of these diagrams and I can't get it to click

>>2811761
They are used to find the exact centre of the object in perspective.

>>2808794

here comes the loomis

>>2809982
Holy fuck it took me like 10 minutes to figure out that last diagram.

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>>2808784
just sketched another, i think im starting to understand the concept

>>2809982
>>2812038
nevermind I still don't understand how to do the final panel. Fuck. Somebody do a step by step explanation please.

>>2808929
And this is why the board is shit and the Loomis meme needs to be pushed even further

>>2812323
Holy fuck lol why bro

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>>2812464

Here's a shitty diagram.

There are two ground planes.

Ground plane 1 is where the two closer men and the viewer are standing.

Ground plane 2 is higher/elevated and is where the farthest man is standing on.

The eye level/horizon is the same height as the two men's pelvises (roughly halfway down the body) and ground plane 2.

Probably the most important thing to consider w/ perspective is that there is a "camera" in every image. When we draw something we are viewing it from somewhere within the image as if we were actually there looking at it or taking a picture.

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>>2812970

A key thing to remember is the station point which is the camera. How To Draw covers this at the beginning.

Also in this example, I believe the shorter figure is wrong since the shoulders are above the horizon line.

>>2812323
He said IN PERSPECTIVE.

>>2812978
Shorter relative to the man in front

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>>2812970
Yes I understand the basic concept, but I don't understand how the highlighted lines in the attached pic are found. They all seem arbitrary.

The green line I understand to be a continuation of the lower ground plane. Or the bottom plane of the stairs structure is another way to think about it. But how was its VP chosen?

The orange line is the angle of the stairs structure. Again seems to be arbitrarily placed.

The red line is sliding the top figure into the distance. Measure line from red line to horizon is dropped until its bottom meets the green ground plane line. That makes sense to me. But I need to know how to find the green groundplane line.

>>2808794
B-b-but the perspective and foreshortening on those girls are all fucked up.
And the men to the right could be standing on the same ground plane if the man closest to the viewer is standing more to the right than the one further away.

>>2808782
I am not some master, at all. But I draw up a box in perspective that the character is supposed to fit quite snugly in. Thanks to the box it suddenly becomes quite easy to figure out the mid points in perspective and how to apply these as crouches when then drawing the character. Since you should know the basics of anatomy regarding halfs.

>>2808794
Ohh, I didn't know about that diagonal rule from the right side, I was always trying to wing it. It's pretty basic geometry too, now I'm ashamed of myself.

>>2808782
hey op can i use this pose not the character but just the pose for a painting?