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talent but no friends

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Hey, so I guess this is more about motivation than improvement. I know I have skill and talent, but one of my main motivations is just being around other artists that make it all fun and worth while. I'm also troubled by recent politics and stuff which makes a lot of people sensitive around stuff I find amusing and fun, like imaginary nazis. I'm afraid to go to local art groups, I don't seem to fit in anywhere. I have a DA but it's like a desert. I'm just sad. help
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>>2802572
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>>2802572
>imaginary nazis
lose the edge and we can be buds
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Help with what exactly?
Marking friends, or friends who are also artists?
To make friends you need to have something about yourself that they can find interesting and relate to.
If your only hobby is drawing than I would say try getting another one.
That way you won't be so one dimensional.

Try looking for people that share your humor and sensibilitys first.
You can always draw with people you get along with, but you can't always get along with people who draw.
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>talent and no friends

shiieet this cuts me.
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>>2802572
Post your work. If it's good I'll be your friend. Maybe.

Imaginary nazis ARE pretty fun though.
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>>2802572

I went to an art school where the principal allowed us to make portraits of Hitler, draw swasticas and there were qt3.14s talking about World War 2. It was fucking heaven.

I should have taken a picture of a wall covered in fucking Hitler.
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>>2802608
That does sound amazing. Anyway, here's the finished pic. Part of a comic I'm (trying) to be motivated about.
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>>2802581
It's really not about edge. My characters are just kind of crazy like that, and I find offensive jokes really funny, they're one the few things that make me laugh in life.
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Anon, I feel this. You should look up groups on Meetup, search local art galleries/venues near you (they often have socials, events, all that fun stuff)


>>TFW too self-loathing and critical to share art openly and thus, no real following or business, or art friends
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>>2802672
yeah...I don't like about myself that I feel I need a following to be motivated. It just sucks the air out of me sometimes when I feel like I have to isolate myself from more successful artists just to keep the faith that I have. And then there is the part of me that makes me feel like my work is evil somehow. sad.
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>>2802572
do you want to be friends? lets do art trades/collabs (or anyone else who wants to be friends pls se as)
ive been having trouble communicating and relating to people
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What if I'm no talent no friends, can I play?
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>>2802702
yay I'm game!

>>2802741
Do you enjoy story/world building?
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You faggots are so pathetic it's almost cute.
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>>2802744
I guess so? I mean it's what I do every time I draw to some level at least so
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>>2802750
No you're not wrong Walter, you're just an asshole.
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Does /ic/ have a discord chat? I would make one if it doesn't already.
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>>2802750
I had a root canal today and you made me smile now i'm in pain thanks
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>>2802702
I like me some sylvanas, let's be friends and trade some zombie elves
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Friends are for fags, you just need career contacts. Go work at an art place, gallery, whatever. Go to art school. Find studio space. Then try to find people who can help with your career, pretend to be their friend but they don't really fucking matter.
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>>2802779
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Friends literally do nothing but hold you back

*pushes you on the ground and kicks your chin*

Get the fuck away from me you closet norm
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>>2802744
>>2802776
discord is #3347
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>>2802787
I can tfucking believe,,, my discord is rabbit#3347
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>>2802784
Then you haven't had a "friend"

>>2802779
And the vast majority of people outside of this hole at least would prefer to not be a net drain on society I think you'll find

Would you like a hug?
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>>2802784
e-erp with me anon, let's have a fun time ok!
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>>2802784
It's not just "norm" it's literally survival. I think I may be more motivated by that than by feels.
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>>2802793

kek everyones just fucking ants, I don't care about anybody but myself. I mean I pretend I do because it's necessary to get things moving, but it's a mask.
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>>2802779
I can't, I hate myself and the world because I see it like this.
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>>2802838
Sure thing tough guy, and a world with no one but you in it would be perfect. The longer you wait to face yourself, the harder it gets.
You really need a hug. It's free Dexter
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>>2802869
It's hard to love. Do it anyway. Do it so you don't heap shit into the world. For some reason /ic/ will find any triviality to better art, but none to better themselves or anything at all. It's utter nonsense.
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>>2802878
yeah I'm with you.
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>>2802779
kek reminds me

>phil fish
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>>2802869
> world because I see it like this.

I tell people this a lot; you need to develop a taste for shit. The world is has no meaning, and is full of fucked up shit. But you gotta learn to enjoy it, and love it, and thus take part in it without any inhibitions. It takes time but you'll get there.
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>>2802917
Glad to hear there's more than just me, anon. There's enough problems already. Can't say I can make anything better, but I'm not giving up on this ball of monkeys.
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>>2802947
>sapience doesn't exist
I think what you mean is there is no intrinsic meaning.
Trade your existence with a worse one if there isn't meaning. Cut off your legs. Or even stop trying to give advice to anon.

Closer to the point, you are my meaning anon, as anon is yours. My happiness is fundamentally incomplete without yours, and this is a human universal, in the healthy and functional.
No, utopia can't exist, we don't live as long as we decide to, (yet) and people will always destroy good things. We are Sisyphus, made to eternally struggle against the nature of existence. Nihilism is an excuse for the lazy, the fearful, the resentful, the machiavellian.
I love you anon, so please do so for yourself.
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Similar feels.

Even thought I illustrate for a money, the real reason I learned to draw was 4chan.

There is absolutely no other place on the Internet that could understand me. None. I always wanted to communicate better with other Anons. Making shoops and stupid comics for my only friends.

But 4chan has changed to much. Now we have general draw threads. They are an abomination. Every thread was meant to have OC. Not just a containment circlejerk for requesters.

I can't connect with most posters anymore either. Everyone is so ultra sensitive nowadays. It's impossible to truly discuss something without people getting offended by the smallest threat to their ideas.

I don't really know what to do. Similar feels.

Even thought I illustrate for a money, the real reason I learned to draw was 4chan.

There is absolutely no other place on the Internet that could understand me. None. I always wanted to communicate better with other Anons. Making shoops and stupid comics for my only friends.

But 4chan has changed to much. Now we have general draw threads. They are an abomination. Every thread was meant to have OC. Not just a containment circlejerk for requester.

I can't connect with most posters anymore either. Everyone is so easily offended. It seems that all the people I cared about left.

I don't really know what to do.
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>>2802981
Nothing stopping you from setting the example is there? You're here already anyway
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>>2802572
I have a small circle of like 20 degenerates, only four of them draw but we hang out on Picarto, Discord etc. and nobody gets to judge anyone because just being in the community means you're a literal trash.

Network a bit, hang around communities you'd like to be a part of and sooner or later people will start noticing your presence. Once you find people with a similar sense of humor, you've made it.
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What the fuck has happened to this place? Jesus Christ.
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>>2802971
thanks shopenhauer
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>>2802998
Cheers luv
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>>2802989
>Network a bit, hang around communities you'd like to be a part of and sooner or later people will start noticing your presence

But outside social media and /ic/, all art communities are dead or just used as portfolio galleries.
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>>2802971
>the resentful, the machiavellian.
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>>2802642
you might (think that you) have talent and skill, but you very much lack in the fundamentals department, buddy.
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>>2802651
you do you boo, and go make a tumblr
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>>2802750
also this. fucking keks.
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>>2802572
>mac
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>>2803228

/ic/ -the cautionary tale hey?
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I've got similar problem, I can see mistakes in my work, I have mentors, but in RL I'm all alone, a year ago it felt kinda good not having anyone see & make fun of my crappy beginner stuff, but now being without like-minded people, shared projects and talks about art and basically doing everything on my own is horrible. I was thinking about joining one of those ripoff courses just to have people around me and to make friends one day, but I don't know
Maybe during summer
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>>2803635
There's a lot of people like this. It's easy to cut yourself off. Hope you find some like minds anon.
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>>2803635
I'm gonna start going to open figure drawing sessions 3 times a week to at least be around other people.
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Been thinking about this post for some time and how to respond. Been going through very similar periods in 2016 what with losing my only friends and having politics become a major part of my daily routine (/pol/ frequenter here). I feel the best course of action is to find the best in your life and focus on that. If you know you can make things better in some way - find out how to do that and improve yourself, and thus, your art. We're on 4chan - course we're not gonna be like everyone else on a surface level. But once we learn to help and love ourselves, only then will people be willing to do the same with us, even if we're "racist, misogynistic, alt-right, 4channers."
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are you ok anon
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>>2802572
I would trade you in an instant. Take all my work friends and all my other friends too. just let me be fucking good so I can slip into the abyss with satisfaction
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>>2802572
>imaginary nazis
Draw some and we can be buds
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>>2802594
>art
>one dimensional.

Pick one.
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>>2802642

Join me in doing the art for my nazi strategy-rpg-visual-novel game where half the generals are cute girls and lolis, and the other half yaoi bait. We can then discuss and shitpost all over writen history and how nazi uniforms were aesthetic as fuck.
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>>2804923

>are you me?
Similar situation as (you) and maybe OP. Over the last year or so I started frequenting /pol/ and realized Im politically opposite most artists. I stopped posting as much and not barely ever, and its been a lonely island for a few months. Now Im just reworking my portfolio in solitude and hoping in a year I can do alright paying freelance and start cutting through the "middle". Shit sucks senpai
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>>2802759
there's one for /ic/ general, one for LAS and another for unmotivated losers I think.
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>>2802838
Are you by any chance a Reaper main
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>/r9k/ thread
TF NO GF
how can i draw without gf??
halp
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>>2805348
Draw your waifu obviously.
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>>2802651
dont lose a fucking thing. do your own thing, be real to you
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>>2802572
Post your DA man. I can definitely relate to your scenario.
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>>2805332
Wow thanks for answering my question without actually answering it faggu
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Couldn't agree more OP.

Cancelled my schoolism membership, sold my tablet, and threw away all of my sketchbooks.

Such a waste of time. And for what? It's completely unnecessary and serves no purpose.
Art is not needed, especially in today's society where the intellect, personality, and face reigns supreme.

To be honest, the "artistic lifestyle" seems almost like a childish endeavour at this point, and I don't mean any disrespect, but it seems like the most serious artists (asides from guys who are legit conceptartists/illustrators/porn artists but they represent a very low % of dedicated lifters) are also the people with nothing else going on in their lives.
I know this was true with me, I was biggest and most serious about drawing when I was still in uni, working only 15 hours a week, and pretty much just plucking around all the time, going out, with no real life.
To all you kids out there who are getting sucked into the comerical art , try to stop yourself.
So long as you have and maintain decent facial aesthetics, you'll be fine.
Art just not worth it.

Cheers.
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>>2802594
Underage b&
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>>2802572
>>2802651
And you wonder why you don't have friends. Please stop being an edgy 16 year old. Nobody wants to be friends with an autistic dick.
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>>2805332
>>2802759
>does /ic/ have a discord
>yes

???
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>Tfw I just want to git gud with some other degenerate, critiquing each other and making people fap
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>>2802784
Can we be friends?

>>2802787
D-do you accept shy people?

Friends?
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