What the fuck is the point in hyperrealism?

retarded normie praise

there is no higher pleasure

balance, nature, contrast. we need to have the brainless kitsch art so we can appreciate the good stuff

Because it's fun, probably. And because it's still impressive, cameras or no.

>>2797639
do people actually buy this shit
it looks like bad stock photos

>>2797654
>Because it's fun, probably
literally the least fun way to make art. it's all grids, tracing, and autistic attention to minute details.

expressive painting is fun. gestures are fun. playing with color and form are fun.

>What the fuck is the point in hyperrealism?

Why do people climb Mt Everest?

>>2797631
keeps autists busy so they don't fuck shit up and have screaming fits and whatnot.

>>2797666
because it's a view you can't get anywhere else in the world, a feat of physical and mental prowess that has taken the lives of lesser men, and a badge of honor among professional climbers

>>2797659
>autistic attention to minute details
most of these paintings are fuckhuge in size

>>2797691
and?

>>2797631
The extreme attention to detail is a learning experience for later pieces. Similar to the way tracing can be good for breaking out of symbol drawing, you're taking note of the actual shapes and contours of your subject matter, and trying to overcome preconceived assumptions.

Presenting it as an art unto itself is kind of retarded though.

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>>2797717
you don't get it do you

>>2797721
nothing to get. hyper-realism by definition has an intense focus on detail, regardless of scale. whether it's a Chuck Close portrait on a 7 foot canvas or a kid on dA drawing a celebrity on A4 paper, the autistic attention to detail holds.

get it?

>>2797730
inb4 chuck close is a photo-realist. if he were a hyper-realist then he'd have an even greater focus on high detail.

>>2797730
Tracing a projection on a very large canvas ensures that when the painting is shrunk to photo or magazine size it will look much more hi-res. This is why all these hyper-realistic paintings are huge.

The point is that you can rule out the merits of painstakingly refining details because there are no details.

>>2797736
What's the major difference between photo- and hyperrealism?

>>2798337
Photorealism is a camera

Hyperrealism is a more than a camera and is the last zenith of replicating technologies

ego stroking

>>2798338
>Photorealism is a camera
Ah. Why not call it photography then?

It seems like you're trying to say that, given your simple definition for the former and the (forgive my pretensious phrasing) romantic for the latter, the eye-hand-brain coordination can percieve and record more accurately than a camera?

It's true, I'll admit, that surely techology's perception has yet to match our own organic. But what is hyperrealism trying to prove? That it's "better"? That we're trying to beat technology to the catch?

It seems really superficial to me.

>>2798346
>>2798338
True answer: it's a made up definition to make the shitty paintings look more important

>>2798346
>It seems really superficial to me.
it is, it's entirely about normies saying "omg it looks like a photo"

>>2797679
Not anymore. Now it's just another tourist destination.

>>2798337
Photorealism looks like a photo, depth of field etc. Hyperrealism does not try to replicate the specific way a camera sees The world, and thus has an even more autistic attention to detail

>>2798385
How many times have you been to the summit? Was thinking of bringing the family, any nice hotels at the top?

>>2797706
This, imagine spending that much time detailing a piece how much you would learn. And I imagine some people just enjoy doing it

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>le human xerox
>le normie praise
>le boring
>lol you just pay attention to the details like an autistic would do
>lol waste of time
>lol just take a photo

Lol just admit it. You're jealous. Saying all of the above is just sour grapes.

Enjoy drawing interesting horse dickgirls, you will have lots of praise and money, requires lots of skill and it's not a waste of time.

>>2798529
2/10, low energy troll. lurk more then try again.

>>2798533
Nigger stop your damage control and face reality: Hyperrealism requires more skill than the skill you will ever have.

>>2797706
this anon knows.

>>2798536
I said lurk more, THEN try again. You are still too weak in the ways of the troll, young padawan.

>>2798536
How would you even quantify that, do you have experience making hypperrealist art? I very much doubt it

>>2797631
To show that youre art is shit

>>2798554
This, when will they make hyperrealistic animated films? I'm tired of this Disney shit.

>>2798549
The cringe, pls kys

>>2798555
We're talking about artworks, not films genius

>>2798552
>do you have experience making hypperrealist art?
you know he doesn't even draw. he's here to shitpost.

>>2798552

>How would you even quantify that?

By looking at the end product?

You must have a severe mental weakness to not see a diference in skill between your generic hyperrealism and the generic shit /ic/ draws.

>>2798569
>damage controlling this early.

>>2797631
if you can't do photorealism from life and can only do it from a photo you aren't an artist. or at the very least youre a bad artist

>>2798346
>Why not call it photography then?
Because it's not a photograph.

>>2798797
>photorealism
>from life
>photo
>life
not sure if serious

>>2797631
Autistic people like to draw too, you know.

>>2797762
Are you literally retarded? Have you ever been to a museum?

Protip: Paintings are fuckhuge in general, they're meant to be see from a distance.

>>2798346
>Ah. Why not call it photography then?
...because photography is using a camera to capture an image through photo-sensitive materials, hence photograph, and this is replicating a photograph using traditional media?

>>2798891
>people think realism is replicating photographs

>>2798894
Best pleb tier meme.

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>>2798894
>I can't read
He was literally asking about photorealism, which IS replicating photographs.

Realism isn't even close to either photo or hyper realism.

It's the "wow" factor. The fact that someone can even make such an accurate replica of reality to the point you can't even tell it's not a photo is mind blowing to a lot of people.

Normies don't understand that it's mostly an exercise in measuring and autismal detailing so they give it high praise

What's the point of drawing at all, seriously? To create stupid fucking entertainment, that's it.

>>2799061
Industrial design, advertisement, propaganda, ect.

>>2797631
Easiest way to get likes from normies.

>>2797631
challenging yourself mostly, it's good to exercise your patience, determination and attention to details, just don't get stuck in it for too long, you don't wanna be a copy machine.

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It's fun

>>2797631
>realism
>tracegrids and that autistic tool with grids
>im so good, look faggots im attentionwhore/praisewhore
meh

>ask them to design simple characters
>can't into draw from imagination
>can't into design concepts
>can't into architecture
>shows you a hyperrealistic and autistic picture of morgan freeman in a 21" sketchbook

Hyperrealism is a waste of time to impress the people you hate and will never be with in more than a decade.

Most people who do it are just doing it for instagram likes, but there's a bit of merit in doing so if you're a bit more smart since it helps you improve your rendenring skills.

>>2797631
Mostly just a technical exercise in developing sight and proportion skills and developing complex textures. I think it only has its place as a way of growing an artists skills beyond what they need, so they can dial it back later.

Only those that risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go.

>>2799351
>Hyperrealism is a waste of time to impress the people you hate and will never be with in more than a decade.
Why do we keep trying?

>>2799184

Eggcellent.

>>2799905
Who is we? Society in general? Most photorealism of that precision lacks any real statement or purpose. You could have an expert musician that could mimic real sounds he heard, like a train whistle,,or a bird chirping. But I would lack real creativity and in the end we would want a song/piece; We are looking for the intentionality and statement of the mind behind the work.

>>2797631

practice
its fun
to show off technical ability
to have range
so that when you do something abstract people can't say "he only does that because he can't draw"

>>2798529
this.

>>2799184
wow medium?

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>>2798505
so brave

>>2797631
The same point porn and animu girls have, some mindless fun, but that's it (unless of course you give them a deeper meaning). But becoming an artist just to show off your skills is pointless, art is a language, is meant to express something about ourselves that shall be expressed with colours and lines instead of words. I often have the feeling that this board just cares about making some good looking shit and calling it a day.

>>2802177
>art is a language, is meant to express something about ourselves
Isn't it better to become a writer or a poet if you want to talk about yourself. Using a language with less room for wrong interpretations?

How is showing off an artist skills wrong, they are expressing something about themselves - their hard earned skill at creating beautiful paintings.

>>2802213
Writing language is very limited.

>>2802224
t. illiterate

>>2802213
>How is showing off an artist skills wrong
It's not wrong, but it's superficial, is just a mechanical skill, an ability, exactly like learning to swim, shooting a ball or being good at vidya.
The greatness of art is the ability to express a feeling or an idea through imagery, a beautiful landscape with warm colors can suggest a sense of nostalgia, and it does it better than just writing "I'm nostalgic". It's something way deeper than just copying a car just because I can, lul" or to impress normies

>>2802238
lol whatever fag

>>2802276
Nice argument cuck

>>2797706
>tracing can be good for breaking out of symbol drawing

But that's wrong anon

>>2802345
When you're drawing a symbol of an eye, always a straight-on oval/almond shape, then you trace an eye that's in 3/4 view, then one in profile, you're acting to break up your preconceived notion of what an eye looks like.

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>>2797631
do you guys think i can ever get to this level? pic related is my current work A4 format, so pretty small maybe in a fuckhuge size i could get almost there

>>2802939
you could improve this picture alone just by making the darks darker and the lights lighter, I know that's not the right way to say that but you know what I mean

>>2802963
yeah i understand and agree, i know it actually looks flat but i seem to darken the values too much, or if i use a very soft pencil it gets this rough texture on the darker values that ruins the whole thing

>>2802964
try graphite pencils?

>>2797631
Because it's the crystallization of craftsmanship and dedication, besides is visually appealing.

>>2798836
Not original debater, But wouldn't art captured with a camera be considered photography?

That is what you meant correct, using the camera to make "photo-realistic" art?

I'm reapeating myself, but that's considered photography.

Hr is ironic. That's the point.

>>2798555
some people are drawn towards achieving the greatest level of realism possible in their art. you shouldn't look down on other people for having different goals than you.