Remember how Capcom's Bengus went to shit?

>>2791139
I like it.

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HOW does that even happen?
How do you get from world class illustrator tier to 14 year old chickenshit scribbles in a matter of years?

>>2791139
it's unique
it is distinct
I like it

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>>2791141
It looks like total shit

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>>2791149
>>2791141
You clearly haven't seen the work he did for capcom.

Well as one d/ic/k once so wisely said you never lose the ability to make bad drawings

>>2791159
Oh shit.

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Look at this shit.

I give you some good idea as example
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghostwriter

>>2791195
Nah

>>2791185

myfirstwebcomicpatreoncomingsoon.jpg

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>akiman doing manga
provide source that says this him, and sfv is a shitty game with no budget

>had one month to paint this >>2791153 from reference
>had one day to draw these >>2791139 >>2791151 >>2791185 from imagination

That simple bro.

>>2791277
I don't know about the rest but it's written on his jp wikipedia page that he worked on the Turn A Gundam manga among other stuff.

Comics are hard. If Ruanjia had to draw a comic, it would probably also look ridiculously bad. People underestimate just how much time and effort professional illustrators put into gathering references and finishing a piece. Not that comic book artists don't do that as well, but given tight deadlines, they have to be a lot more versatile and able to loosely use reference while drawing a lot of shit from imagination.

>>2791277
You can even read it yourself.
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Turn-A-Gundam-Tsuki-no-Kaze
>Yasuda Akira.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira_Yasuda
It's akiman

>>2791312
Thats bullshit.
Katsuya Terada did several comics and they all looked great even though he's primarily an illustrator.

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>>2791296
That's not how it works.
There's tons of weekly manga that look great, not to mention that particular manga isnt weekly, so he had ample of time and even for sketches this shit is downright putrid because it's sloppy and shows a terrifying lack of fundamentals.

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This is so bad, how did this happen?

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The manga has an entire post scriptum about the amazing artwork of akiman.

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>>2791143
He does the same crippled hands that bengus does now.
When before
>>2791153
He was CLEARLY capable of doing it.
>>2791296
It doesn't take a month to draw a hand proper.
Infact if you know what you are doing it takes not very long.
But the hands that akiman and bengus draw these days look like hands people who never learned to draw a hand in the first place would shit out.

>>2791331
No it isn't. Your anecdotal evidence is what's stupid because I assure you Terada is an incredible draftman who has done what you need to do to get good at drawing from imagination and sequential art. So obviously when you have the skills necessary to create good comics, you can create good comics. Doesn't change the fact that comics are harder to do than illustrations and many illustrators do not have that particular required skillset.

>>2791352
Thats bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit.
Youre right in the sense that you dont need to be a good draftsman to make a good comic, but a good draftsman can do a visually sound comic.
You dont suddenly forget how to draw eyes, mouth, perspective, hands and anatomy just because you are drawing a comic instead of a storyboard or illustration.
Akiman is clearly suffering from depression or drug abuse.
The point here being that the terrible paneling isnt even the issue here. The issue is that he forgot how to draw HANDS just like his friend bengus (who does only illustrations and not comics and had the same strange change in style)
The most BASIC shit is lacking here, anatomy, perspective. You name it.

You are talking out of your ass because you have no idea what you are talking about.

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>>2791352
Akiman is a man who spent YEARS of his life drawing exaggerated anatomy, extreme perspectives and giant collages of characters.
If anyone should be good with comics just by skillset it should be him. Maybe its alzheimers or not giving a shit but you dont get that shitty out of the blue

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Even akiman's rough sketches from the 90s that weren't meant for publication until years later look cleaner and better.

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Some more of the gundam artwork akiman did before he forgot how to draw

>>2791296
>had one month to paint this >>2791153 from reference

Reference of what? Real woman doing spinning bird kick? Referencing his own fucking hands?

Have we come to the point where people are so fed up with DA shit that they can't comprehend the notion of someone making something like this without bullshit?

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>>2791330
>turn a gundam
>manga from over a decade ago
>akiman now

>>2791372
that's his recent work. now never post here again

>>2791139
>>2791143
(1/2)
This is a naive question, but i'm not an arts student.
I'm an accountant, and an arts enthusiast.
I'll answer based on my understanding.

It's not that they get worse, their reputation and praise gave them all the permission to do whatever the fuck they want. If you get popular for doing what you want, you continue to do what you want, regardless of fans/money. Even when want you want to do constantly changes.

Showing off is a young mans game. There's no need to show off if you've already proven yourself.

Young artists often seek the approval of strangers. as a result the things they create become generic and uninspired.
>t-they only like sci-fi OR fantasy right? That's how I'll prove myself..
>that new thing i saw was soo original, If I copy it, I'll be original too!
>I painted this photo on ONE layer with the HRB,.... in 20 minutes.

When you switch from seeking approval, to loving the craft, you stop caring about this stuff. This has binary outcomes that toggle depending on the mood of the artist,
>the art quality increases exponentially
>the art quality decreases exponentially

It is worth noting that this isn't the same thing as the sloppiness that comes from mental strain and overwork. though it could be a contributing factor.

You've probably already stopped reading, and that's okay. Regardless, there is more to be said.

Art is a trade, like carpentry or architecture. It is impossible to get objectively worse at a trade that is practiced constantly. You either stay the same, or improve.
>if you get good, you will always be good.
>if you are bad, you will remain bad until you get better

>>2791521
(2/2)

...That being said, it may seem like a direct contradiction, but the concept of 'artistic average' comes into play.
The artistic average is what determines the quality of an artist in the eyes of other people.
>putting out low quality work = low average = low-tier artist
>putting out high quality work = high average - high-tier artist

If I'm personally shit at art, but spend 12 years making 20 god-tier artworks. everyone will think i'm amazing, and theoretically i'd be pretty good by the end of it.
But if i'm a highly skilled artist, and i put out 50 shitty pieces in a row, I'm still a skilled artist, but everyone will think i've gotten worse. Even though I haven't actually declined in skill at all.

THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THIS RULE, is illness. Parkinsons, dementia, etc.

if you've gotten worse there's two reasons:
>either you weren't as great as you thought
>or your understanding of something has changed, and now your approach is outdated.

The second one happens a lot in education, and the first one is something i've only seen in amateurs.

>>2791139
>Bengus and Akiman both go digital
>Their art turns to shit

Huh. How about that.

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>>2791825
And one more.
From 20 years ago.
Akiman was a digital pioneer you dolt.

Iunno, I like the look of these. They're not as polished but it still has his spirit within them, you can tell...

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>>2791825
Bengus digital illustration from 1997.
Worksize

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>>2791825
And one more digital only bengus from the late 90s.

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>>2791825
Bengus and Akiman were using digital media when you weren't even born yet.

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>>2791825
And another photoshop and tablet digital drawing from the 90s by bengus.
Feel BTFO already? I got more

>90s photoshop

Did they run that shit on rendering farms or was it as fucking bad as I imagine it?

Also: Nice hand >>2791840

>>2791836
Man. I wish I could get an original PSD (or whatevertehfuck photoshop used back then) for that Chun. Really wonder how it would look without paper grain complimenting it.

>>2791839
>that small stomach and messed up hand
lol

>>2791845
>Did they run that shit on rendering farms
Spotted the 2000s kid.
I ran photoshop on my pentium 2.

>>2791853
>Her body is turning and you don't know how hands work

lol

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i'm scared boys, is this some kind of neural degenerative disorder? will some of us suffer the same fate and lose this skill we slaved to obtain?

>>2791836
>>2791838
>>2791839
>>2791840
>>2791842
No need to be an ass about it, I had no idea they were using digital that early.

With that in mind, how the fuck do YOU explain >>2791139 and >>2791347?

>>2791375
Yes

>>2791139
Maybe he hurt his drawing hand and he's using his non-drawing hand?

>>2792061
Its probably depression or something

>>2792063
>how the fuck do YOU explain
Something mental

>>2791838
>>2791839
>>2791840
>>2791842

I don't get it. These look terrible and they are from back when this artist was supposed to be good? So where's the twist here? There hardly seems any skill difference between these drawings and their recent ones.

>>2792200
>These look terrible
Opinion discarded

>>2792304
Are you stupid? Just look at the fucking hands here >>2791840 and >>2791842

How can you seriously pretend those are well drawn hands and he shockingly forgot how to draw them in his most recent work?

>>2792322
>Just look at the fucking hands here
Yeah, perfectly fine hands. Feel free to redline how you would improve them so we can laugh at your ineptitude