Why learn to draw on paper first instead of wacom tablet?

Seems like you are mostly looking for people to agree with you, judging by your whole post

>wasting time on a medium that I'm never going to use - paper.

You are never wasting time on it. The skills and understanding directly translates to digital and vice versa.

Now as I see it, your whole attitude to learning is wrong, and your art will most likely suffer as a result, so really, any choice you make is going to be a shit one. I'm basing this on the fact that you are saying you will "cheat" as much as possible.

Now onto the choice itself. The reason why most people probably recommend traditional mediums is because it's easy to just pick up a pen and paper and draw. It's cheap and easy, you don't need to rely on a computer, and you can directly see what you are creating. In the end, if you have the determination it doesn't really matter which medium you start out with as long as you have the right mindset.

Also it's easy to just sketch out a quick idea on a paper instead of connecting your tablet to a computer and starting up photoshop and whatever.


In the end, you do you. But get rid of your shitty attitude.
If I am being baited, sorry.

>>2762996
OP here. I will not cheat my learning, but I will definitely cheat anyway I can to get the job jone. Because as I stated my goal is to become proficient only at expressing rough concepts from imagination to use any shortcut possible after to finish make and make a good image.

>Also it's easy to just sketch out a quick idea on a paper instead of connecting your tablet to a computer and starting up photoshop and whatever.

See, this is the kind of argument pro-traditional mediums that I was talking about. It takes me about 3 seconds to both plug the tablet and click on the PS icon, about the same as putting the sketchbook on the table and opening it to draw. Its something that has nothing to do with actual learning but I keep seeing repeated over and over.

And no, I'm not looking for people to agree, just some reasonable argument related to paper's actual advantage in developing the observation and motor skills that are part of learning to draw, not logistics of pluging a tablet or dealing with PC drivers...

>wasting time on a medium

I'm not one to tell someone that they should give up before they start, but with that attitude you almost deserve it.

The fundamentals of visual are identical whether its a cave painting, a chalkboard, an oil painting, a drawing on paper, or digital.

In fact, people who limit themselves to one medium, especially with a shit crutch like ctrl-z'ing the day away are always worse than a real artist.

>>2763029
Imagine if you're trying to show a client something. Wouldn't it be easier to just have a sketchbook and sketch it on the spot instead of getting out a tablet and computer and then doing it on the computer? Moving paper around and leaving a copy to your client is very easy.

To each his own though.

>>2763036
I can just imagine the fool sweating and tearing up as he fumbles with a pencil and fails while the smile fades from his prospective clients face.

>>2762986
Why learn how to crawl instead of learning to run?

>>2763039
He bought the tablet to make art 'easy'.

The only thing 'easy about digital is that my apartment doesn't stink like linseed oil and I don't have to have a room set up just for painting. I find it personally more difficult because of the lack of textural feedback on my brush hand, but maybe that is just me.

>>2763042
I know that feeling. I bought my tablet months ago and said to myself I'd use it only when I felt comfortable with my sketching. As it stands I take time out of my day to sketch on paper and on my tablet. I suck, but that's too expect.

If you already have a tablet use a tablet
The reason for drawing traditionally to begin with is because using a tablet for the first month or so is very demotivating and the buyers remorse you will experience will crush you

Look its frankly quicker and less suspicious to ctrl tab to something else when drawing porn than quickly hide a sheet of paper, op.

If you want a fucking wacom so badly just buy one.

Paper, being so difficult to come by nowadays, is more of a luxury meme, true.

>>2762986
>One of the reasons presented was the ease on which I'd be tempted to erase/delete mistakes digitally
There have been dissertations written on this subject and that is only the tip of an itty bitty baby block that has chipped off the iceburg. I won't bore you with the intersection of art, aesthetic philosophy, and neuroscience.

The biggest thing is that digital sketches all look like dogshit, even the good ones.

>>2763034
>shit crutch like ctrl-z'ing the day away are always worse than a real artist

Please do tell the rest of the class what a "real artist is". Your neo-Luditte rambling across the thread just shows how salty a failed artist can become.

OP, use whatever you want and whatever is easier for you. The important is to show up everyday, do the exercises you choose to follow and always push yourself. Disregard oldfag advices like these from people that think you need to be a Renaissance Man to get a job. Because they never did.

Also, sketching is invaluable, learn that shit, practice on paper as well, but don't wait 'till you're good to use the tablet, if that's what you're using for your future work.

>>2763068
Op said he had a tablet already

>>2763097

Totally changes everything. My fault.

Then I guess anon should just be practicing on that fancy tablet instead of paper instead of asking advice.

>>2763042
people buy wax paper and stick it to the tablet with tape, it almost feels like paper, you should try that.

Tl;dw - use whatever you want, just practice

Personally I have never met anyone who was already skilled in traditional media and then had serious problems in transitioning to tablets.

There is no digital vs traditional. Media specific techniques are just icing on the cake of your core skills. Any pro concept artist could pick up oils and be decent in couple of weeks.

You like to work digital? Go for it nigga but don't imagine you're hot shit for being familiar with Photoshop interface.

https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/why-you-shouldnt-get-a-graphics-tablet--cms-24272

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>>2763094
but it is a crutch, people recommend using pens to practice line quality because you HAVE to think before committing to your action, if you start with the power of ctrl+z you will never learn this and you will be crippled to repeating your strokes way more times than you need to. Please, stop giving bad advice only to look good to some rando.

>>2763985
:o

Not OP, and I am starting on paper. Just wondering how difficult it is for the skills to translate though because of how different the stylus and screen feel. I can draw a pretty smooth looking line slowly on paper, but if I try to make lines slowly with the stylus they come out all squiggly and bad looking.

I'm using a surface pro though and have never tried a wacom or anything, don't know if it makes a big difference.

>>2765090
The fundamental rules still apply once you switch to digital, at that point it's just about getting comfortable with your tablet.

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>>2763068
>Paper, being so difficult to come by nowadays, is more of a luxury meme

>>2762986
>Why learn to draw on paper first instead of wacom tablet?

Because a pen and paper will always have more pressure sensitivity than any tablet. You cannot simply CTRL + Z or warp tool your mistakes away