/beg/ - BEGINNER THREAD

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does this look ok?

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I'm very beginner halp

>>2741837
Post an actual work or study that you put effort into instead of a doodle on the back of your homework and critique is more likely to come your way.

>>2741834
isn't her right leg a bit low
And her feet non existent

Its still a good Drawing though

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>>2741827

>>2741899
You've done something very strange with the runner's posture. Look at the reference, he is running straight ahead, leaning forward with his torso twisting due to the arm swings. Somehow you interpreted and drew this as him leaning to the left.

Draw what you actually see.

>>2741837
You're high on symbol drawing.
Look for Loomis books on the artbook thread or Proko over youtube.
That should help you understand how to build and draw a head from zero.

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>>2741830
I really dont get what im doing wrong..is it construction? Should i just go back and do drawABox?
Anyways...would be nice if someone could critique this.

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>Tfw you post your life drawing study to a porn thread

>>2741980
i can jack off to this frog

Would someone actually help me and tell me what i need if i posted work? Because im so fucking lost now its not even the funny type of lost.

>>2741999
Just post your work

>>2741999
If you asked for help, maybe.

Takes five seconds and you lose nothing.

>>2741999
Post your work, it's not like were going to take note of the furniture in the background and find out where you live then roast you for drawing bad

>>2742016
>>2742007
>>2742006
Ill make an imgur of all the sheets ive done recently

>>2742022
http://imgur.com/a/z72R0
http://imgur.com/a/6chOH
http://imgur.com/a/K1U34
Grill me. I have made zilch improvements in months, that needs to change. gib help plz

>>2742023
>not putting all three images into one link
>not just posting the images here

Anyway, it's hard to critique a bunch of doodles.

>>2742030
k, thats the point though. i cant do a full image because i dont know what the fuck to do, everything looks like complete shit.

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>Think drawing is going pretty well
>scan it
>realize how much you fucked up

>>2742033
If you don't push yourself to do more, you won't see any improvements.

>>2742033
Just calm down, drawing should be fun.
Try taking a pause, dont push yourself too much.

Try making things you like, draw fanart and just try and enjoy the process and dont care too much for the end product..after some days..just go back to it with a new mind and then everything will work better.

>>2742043
What should i do then? Move on to bodies or color or something else that interests me?
>>2742044
Guess i could try drawing dragons or something. always liked that.

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keep practicing ? are my proportions right? what should i change?

>>2742045
Yes, just draw a Dragon, Just have fun for a bit.
So you will remember why you even started drawing, because its fun for you.
The next day you will go back studying and then it will be better.

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>>2742059

>>2742064
>>2742059
I might try doing some more drawabox lessons to improve my grasp of 3d form

>>2742046
This post is a testament to just how blind beginners can be the flaws in their work. You could be this guy, and you wouldn't even know it.

>>2742046
Just keep practicing. All the current issues will only be resolved with more work, you can do it anon.

>>2742075
D:

>>2742046
Take a guess on what's wrong if any.

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>>2741820

>>2741957
It's a nice beggining, you seem to know the global anatomy. My guess is you rush your work. When you put a stroke there is no need to iterate it five times, the result is an awkward outlining. Instead use the next stroke to correct or add shape. Same rush mistake with the shadows, draw them and/or do a proper blending. Make some variations in the values of your lines. Draw bigger.
Ow, and don't rush your work.

>>2742116
Yeah, i was kida frustrated and did rush the drawing a little bit.
I will try and put more time into it.

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>>2742034
I used to always draw long noses too. Just remember that the point the bottom of the nose attaches is about where the cheek bones end, or you can remember that the nos is halfway between the brow and the bottom of the chin. When you draw from profile remember that the bone part attaches to the face just above the pupils, and the peak of the bone it just below the pupils, you can tap your own nose to hear the difference and learn where the bone ends.

>>2742160
>you can tap your own nose to hear the difference and learn where the bone ends
whoa, this is pretty cool

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>>2741957
idk man. it is probably everything

>>2742174
thanks man, really appreciate it.

>>2742160
heyyy, thanks man.

Why do i have so much motivation to practice when it's late, any psychologists?

>>2742200
Because you know you don't have time to actually practice.

>>2742114
proportions, legs and arms are weird and shoulders too

>>2742205
How so? I can stay up all night drawing if i wanted to, and i do some nights, i have no where to be in the morning

>>2742230
Probably because you feel the need to do something productive in the day.
Because if you not you feel like you have wasted a hole day.. whit out improvement.

Anyone got tips on how to draw anatomy faster without resorting to symbol drawing?

>>2742265
Do a davinci and find some corpses to slice up

>>2742265
Stop focusing on speed. As you get better, your quality along with the time it takes you to finish something will improve because of confidence.

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Advice please?

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Wrong size, sorry

>>2742339
love the way you shade. i would focus on practicing texture

>>2742339
Lets see the reference.

>>2742339
mouth and nose are giant symbols, the brow ridge looks pretty good

>>2741899
sup frankenstein

>>2741834
leave beg and stop being insecure.
Segment your hand more. fix the feet ( look ref its not even close please use form

>>2742357
Can you say they are giant symbols without the ref?

>>2742362
Yes because the head is slightly 3/4 and the nose is looking directly at the camera, the lips aren't AS bad but they are extremely flat.

>yfw you realize that everything except perfect photorealism is shitty symbol drawing

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Any good books to study color and proper shading

I've been trying to go off of the miniature guides but things like where to put the proper amount of light or where it hits or how to get specific tones continue to fuck me up

>>2742364
what if the guy's got a croocked nose and flat lips?

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First attempt at constructing from a reference (right). Angle looks alright I think, but the nose and chin are still giving me a hard time

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>>2741824

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a little doodle

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>>2742355

>>2742034
Try using charcoal and only really fire in the darks when you are sure you have the proportions right.

Don't feel bad about not getting portraits perfect, it takes hundreds if not thousands of involved focused ones to really get a handle on it.

>>2742046
Practice drawing a line through the center of the long bones and draw some of the long bones if a standing figure. You need to investigate how the femur attaches to the pelvis. Also try some different ways to create the general shape of a rib cage.

>>2742339
Decent drawing. You could do the background as well or hint at it. I don't think hatching is the best for the hair though. You would probably need to use a darker pencil and actual marks that imitate the hairs flow.

Try looking at a Facebook artists called Paul lung. That fucker is a master of involved hair drawing.

>>2742418
Thanks anon, looking at Paul Lungs work rn, nice reference

>>2742393
would you mind posting the ref? I was looking for that one.

I think I need to start learning construction right about now. Would someone mind giving me a brief overview of the different styles or schools of constructive drawing and which books are recommended? The sticky isn't helping much and the word "construction" sabotages every google search I attempt. I'd really appreciate it.

Are there any good books for texture? Have a shit ton of books in my library and none that teach texture

>>2742432
figure drawing for all it's worth

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>>2742426
Sure thing. Try going to facebook paullungart

Go back to the 2010-2013 time frame when he was doing very detailed portaits. I'll post a few progressional drawings he's done.

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>>2742426
This one is actually pretty loose for his usual controlled style, but it doesn't show too much.

>>2742432
The basic idea is to simplify objects into basic forms. An arm could be broken down into a cylinder for the forearm and a cylinder for the upper arm. Since it's easy to draw cylinders you can use this to position and arm and make sure it has the correct volume. often you will also "draw through" objects, almost like a wireframe so that you get the far side correct and understand the volume in all 3 dimensions and not just a flat view.

For a technical approach that is used mostly for things like vehicles see Scott Robertson.

For an approach of using it on the figure and anatomy in a more practical way see Michael Hampton.

For an approach that is watered down and more intuitive and applies it to various objects see Peter Han.

>>2742339
You need to be more careful with the light, you're making some bits too light, like the area just above the brow is a bit too light as well the forehead.

The facial feature forms are pretty good but it don't seem to fit quite right on the face, for example the nose perspective is slightly too forward facing.

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>>2742430
Found it randomly on /s/, I copied and pasted into SAI, didn't download sorry m8.

>>2742436
>>2742438
Thanks Anons

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Really haven't been satisfied with how I draw heads lately so I'm trying to get used to the skull itself. Are there any good refs for how the features of the face sit on the skull?

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bought myself a laptop and it has a touchscreen

1. is this close enough to a drawpad for me to start digital art?

2. if so, what is the best program for digital art

3. what is the least shitty pen for this that is under $30

>>2742458
>Are there any good refs for how the features of the face sit on the skull?
Most of it should be fairly obvious from just looking at the skull. You can also grab a mirror and feel in your own face where parts of the skull are underneath your skin.

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>>2742458
if anyone has a guide i would also like to know, my faces always seem like a jumbled mess. i dont know how artists can just draw a face without everything looking like shit

my dream is to draw like araki. for a shitty pleb manga his faces (and most of the other stuff too) look like pure sex

>>2742458
>>2742467
http://www.stanprokopenko.com/blog/2009/05/draw-head-any-angle/

>google 'how to draw heads'
>first result
open wide for the baby food, babies

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hello, peeps. trying a tree from ref today!

>>2742458
I like your angles

>>2742458
Looks great as a stylized skull, but that nasal bone is way too upturned.

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Fuck my shit up senpai, I already know the hand is fucked

How do i draw a face from reference?
I can't get my head around how to get the shape and proportions right, I've tried using construction and just eyeballing but i rarely get an accurate copy.
I've read fun with a pencil and done a draw a box run

>>2742472
You didn't read anything we said, did you?

>>2742516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YXTlF4hzaE

Also do that Picasso thing that /ic/ always says you need to do.

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Does anyone that finished/read this book tell me more less at what level should you be before starting it?

I already understand the basics of perspecive and atleast have some idea of how to do irregular shapes, however the first chapter asks me to redesign a scooter and even though i tried I still don't think I'm quite there yet.

Does it get easier or should I go back to something more basic?

>>2742519
Igor? Yea I've done that as well as the face/vase exercise numerous times and /beg/ told me i did an okay job, however when it comes to drawing a real person i spill my spaghetti

>>2742516
Mark the top and bottom of the face as proportional limits, just 2 flat lines. Judge whether the hear is facing you or is angled. A face looking straight on is usually broken into 3rds. From the top down the first third usually ends around the top of the eyebrows, the second, around the bottom of the nose. But it depends on the angle. At minimum mark the top and bottom and the third markers lightly right on your reference, or on a transparency taped over your reference.

Introduce a few horizontal guidelines too, maybe a halfway point and quarters. See what's happening on the reference at these points, is it really the eyebrow there, the eye? When you replicate the guidelines on your drawing the same relationships and proportions should be at these marker points.

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>>2741820

[spoiler]First time posting. Pls dont bully.[/spoiler]

So I decided to give a quick try, started to construct using the red and liked it and kept going, even after realizing my measurements were fucked up.

Any point keeping doing stuff like this or should I just try and keep closest possible to reference and just do more?

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>>2742519
That guy's videos are so informative
I took his advice using shapes and working off of them but it still doesn't look the same, will it start to show more similarities if i keep working on it or am i doing something wrong?

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made this on mspaint, I want to be able to do facial detail really well

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>>2742650
did this one for pol

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Totes oats its the meal deal.

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>>2742655

>>2742460
>not just buying a surface pro with a pen or something
>not just buying an $80 huion tablet or something

>>2742653
its hilarious because that same statement applies to all of /pol/

>>2742675
Pointing that out is politically incorrect though.

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From imagination. Looking for tips on form, gesture, perspective.

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>>2742656

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>>2742717

Meh.

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>>2742729

Blueberries.

>>2742369
color and "shading" are the least thing you should worry about right now.

>>2742783
what is the point of this

you took up like 7 image slots for the thread

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>>2742783

Strawberries.

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>>2742791

<----

>>2742791
he wants attention

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>>2742811
I'm just curious how you find bogging down photos into an indistinguishable mess fun.

Does a knack for understanding proportions come naturally with practice drawing from references, or is it something that must be studied by itself?

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>>2741827
I hate young fit Jack black and his stupid-ass tribal sun tattoo and his big heavy balls

>>2742393
Her chest doesn't stop at her boobs. C'mon anon you can obviously do better.

>>2742707
Pretty much perfect, clean it up and render it.

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>>2742675
/pol/ has their moments

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I know the first one is cringe-inducingly bad, and the second is not much better - I'm making improvements though, yeah?

first time drawing since doodles as a kid

>>2742840
>Pretty much perfect.

That's it kids, never listen to anything said on a /beg/ thread.

>>2741837
woah this is deep as shit. trump is the devil

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copying other artist, because feeling complex about photo

also cheaper version of original

What are some good anatomy training books

Like detailed muscle and skeleton training

>>2742955
Wow are you japanese

>>2742959
i live in south cuckrea

>>2742959
if you see a lot of circles in the language, it's korean

>>2742960
>worst korea
oh boy, I've heard there's all sorts of shit going on with your president, stay safe friendio

>>2742955
Damn Hangul looks so nice

>>2742970
>>2742963
thanks!

I plan to fully commit to busting my ass to improving. Using Prokos figure drawing series.

Gesture
Bean
Robo-Bean
Landmarks
Structure/Mannequin
Landmarks/Proportion
Balance
Exaggeration
Measuring
Tone

How much practice should I put into one thing before moving onto the next/how will I know when to proceed?

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I did the 1 hour class from pixellovely.
I'd like some advice and input

>>2742409
this

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So I tried copying some stuff and trying a Loomid head (bottom left) with bad results. Anyway seeing my level what would you guys suggest me to do? I'm also doing drawabox in the meantime. Thank you very much for your time

>>2743050
Fuck, I don't know why 4chan keeps rotating the pictures I post with my phone. Anyway this is where I took my references https://get.google.com/albumarchive/104620822473004383244/album/AF1QipNPt9r0Hvk0zLYGfndEt_B57MXUT2YxyPZtYFdV?source=pwa

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>>2743052
fixed version

>>2743053
resize your fucking images

>>2743053
read the OP before you post in a thread

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>>2742984

>How much practice should I put into one thing before moving onto the next/how will I know when to proceed?

You will never be "done" with one of those. Generally I would say, move on when you feel confident enough, and do what you are worst at next.

Also I dont think your list is all that great. Maybe something like so?

Gesture (Bean, RoboBean, Exaggeration, Balance, lineweight)
Value
Anatomy (Landmarks, Muscles)
2d approach (comparative measuring or sight-size)
3d approach (construction, mannequin)

Proko alone might not be enough.

Should I practise all those gestures (I think that it may be useful), figures, and so on if I'm mostly interested in landscapes? What are some good exercises for it, or good books about it?

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>>2743055
>>2743057
Sorry I'm not very good with this stuff. Is this ok?

>>2743065

Yeah I know, I was originally offput by proko because his humor is...eugh. And whenever I tried putting into play stuff his videos were teaching. I was failing, miserably.

For instance, I was trying the Loomis method from the front, which requires you to chop the sides off of a perfect circle.

Well...any time I do that, one or both sides are always lopsided, same with my jaw lines. Curved lines are my downfall, if I try to make them look symmetrical.

Also, thats not MY list, thats the course structure of Prokos Figure Drawing Fundamentals series.

>>2743069
If you are at that level, just do some contour drawings to get decent hand dexterity. Copying lines is fine to start and then slowly proceed.
And honestly, as long as you are doing exercises and are self reflexive you will get there!

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>>2742815

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>>2742393
my attempt

>>2742955
Get ready for jail

>>2742955
source of original artist?

>>2743139
Alphonse (RA,LL,White Datura)

>>2743153
Oh him

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drew my gf. pls rate artwork /ic/

Is it worth gitting gud at drawing if you find life drawing classes dull as hell? I attended one last week and it nearly sent me to sleep.

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>>2743157
I can hear the screams.

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Well /ic
;(

>>2743160
just use the internet

>>2742857
Barely, but keep going and take your time.

>>2743160
Post drawings from life drawing class.

what are the differences btween watercoulours (aquarels?) and gouache?

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I didn't gave them numbers and arrows, but what do you think so far? I was thinking about making a deviantar account, but i also got works form 2014. Should I upload those as well, or only new drawings?

Is there any good resources for drawing mythological creatures such as griffins and dragons?

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decided to move on from drawing female figures since i've come to the conclusion that i am getting nowhere. want some advice here so i have something to think about while im doing other things.

what am i doing wrong here?

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How does one go about deconstructing something to make it simpler? is it just having a better grasp of form? Lets say i want to draw an eagle head for example, how would i break down the skull to make it simpler for myself to draw said eagle in different positions?

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>>2743265
im a beginner too and i dont have a tablet but its basically like this i think.

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>>2743289
Found this on google, should be the gist of it right?

>>2743293
idk why you are asking me bud.

looks fine, especially the cylinder bit.

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>>2743265
>>2743289
Get Dynamic bible from artbook thread, there's a very specific chapter on this topic.
Basically you either build it outside in (chop away from a box) or inside out (draw the centerline, strap various 3D forms onto it).

If you find it too difficult, try Drawabox and a bit of Scott Robertson for grids and mirroring.
Simplifying complex objects into 3D forms is one of my favourite exercises, much recommended.

>>2743322
what kind of complex 3d objects do i use for that exercise?

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>>2743322
Thanks my dood.

>>2743237
Anybody can answer?

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>>2742839
I appreciate your comment [happy face]

>>2743165
>>2743204
I'm reading, fuck face

>>2742382
Reminiscent of the Andreas Bloch sketch of Has Jaeger. Not feculent and quite a mirth for a non-tonal line drawing, except for the hair, but it really depends on what you're aiming to achieve

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should i up the contrast? I always fuck up when i do

>>2743219
Gouache is much more opaque.
>>2743237
Those look pretty good. It's entirely up to you if you want to post older works.

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Hi.
What do you think?

Can somebody give me tips on drawing tits? having trouble getting size and shape right

>>2743443
look up proko balloon 3d model tits skeleton or something to that effect
do the center lines like you do on a sphere.

>>2743442
deviantart tier

hit up the sticky

>>2742841
why

>>2742859
>Disagrees but won't say why

>>2743442
Symbol drawing galore. Go through the sticky, m8.

>>2743469
>>2743503

Thank you. I will.

>>2743552
Read the OP of the thread before you post in it.

>everyone says draw with your shoulder
>watch gnomon videos and they're all drawing with their wrists

what did they mean by this?

>>2743257
need answer

>Draw from reference
>Still mess it up

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Inspired from that thread of old fashion catalogues

>>2743661
i remember you
leave in your construction lines
draw cuter faces/heads

>>2742393
I drew exactly like this two years ago are you me?

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>>2742393
>>2743669
Backing this up with evidence, this is my drawing from May 2015

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>>2743678
>>2743669
And here's some recent shit, lol from this week November 2016

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i finished this. is it that bad

>>2743679
the fuck? i had no idea you were that skilled from your "doodle" desu it looks like shit but that statue really is quite good. you dont belong in the beginner thread.

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Just got a tablet
First ever digital paint in gimp

>>2743696

Strikes me like he's completely trash at linework but decent at rendering.

I'm in a similar camp, whenever I try to do lineart it looks like his first drawing, but I can do a pretty competent greyscale digital painting.

>>2743689
stop wasting your time on fully rendered studies, go and do figure gesture studies and focus on understanding how forms exist withing space.

>>2743703
>>2743689
okay can i get a redline

>>2743698
Nice try

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First try at Picasso, continue on to Loomis or retry?

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>>2743667
Okay I'm gonna post three images. Not to kill the thread quicker but to get feedback on my process.

Number 1, the sketch/construction.

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>>2743734
Number 2, inking in shadows.

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>>2743735
Number 3, lines and cleanup.

Fire away.

>>2743736
It's really flat, and it almost looks like you're pillow shading. Learn forms before "shading". You can do it anon.

>>2743743
I tried to represent soft head-on lighting. Not sure how to take the shading further without making the image all grey. Maybe that's ok?

I'm going to try now and see what it looks like.

>>2743696
I think you mis understand the posts? Reread them all again lol

The very first image that I'm replying to is anons doodle. I then replied showing work from last year co paring how i drew like him. And then the statue is my most recent work. Haha, my line work is way better now than when i started drawing in may last year.

when i draw face with a loomis method,
result is worse and hard to draw a feature should i find another method?

>>2743743

lolis are supposed to be flat

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Fucking stone me

>>2743759
Do you mean heads or faces,
Loomis uses the major method of ball and plain, then adding simple block shapes to it which you then draw the features "within" or "ontop of. Thats pretty much what every imaginative drawing book will teach you in regards to basic head construction.
There are other methods and artists but they are almost always variations on this techique of having a ball and a plane. The. Cutting into or adding on to it.

>>2743762
You must be stoned if you think this worth posting.

>>2743433
Graphite is limited with it's contrast ratio compared to charcoal, from what i can see your paper has some tooth/grain to it so get building up the darker areas by going over the same area in multiple directions. Eg horizontal, vertical and diagonal shade in a box and you'll quickly see how this can darken your values

>>2743762

>>2741848

>>2743762
Is that guy fieri?

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PLEASE CRITQUE THIS THANK YOU IN ADVANCE

>>2743711
No, you fucking can't. We have told you gorillion times that you need to study anatomy and shapes, and you just keep polishing that piece of shit.

>>2743839
youre really mad

>>2743806
read sticky or kys

>>2743856
I apoligize

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>>2743736
Is this better?

>>2743679
What the heck happened

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the intuos pen is neat

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>>2741830

Where can I find references pictures of those statues/sculpture everyone is studying? They look great for value practice.

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Finally getting around to working through Keys to Drawing.

>>2743882
What do you mean?

>>2743957
Good luck Senpai! You'll git gud!

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>>2741826

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Am I good yet? Knocked this out in ~20 minutes.

>Key criticism I want
Are the arms too long/uneven? Is the shading okay? What can I do to fix it?

>>2744053
Would fap to in prison/10

>>2744053
There's no fucking shading.

>>2744055
Thanks?
>>2744060
I'm not good at shading.

>>2744053
If you can't realize what's bad about it, read the OP carefully and get some taste.

>>2744065
Well, shade it more, then we can maybe see how fucked it is.

>>2743257
need answer

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>>2743862
OKAY

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>>2743669
I agree we have similar lines m8. Here, have another shitty drawing inspired by yours. My first atempt at fat people, just getting started on digital.

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>>2744229
it's like looking in a mirror to may 2015

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How's this?

>>2744242
/beg/ tier. Congratulations

>>2744243
Thanks for the tip, that will be really useful and will surely help me improve.

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Panzer IV sketch, taking a break from digital.

I scanned it, but I couldn't see shit so I took a photo instead

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>>2741821

>>2741902
thanks, very useful help

>>2744273
damn dude that's art!

>>2744319
No, that's lazy swishswosh symbol drawing.

>>2744242
>y'all got anymore JPEG?

>>2744322
post your work

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>>2743928
Tried finishing this up. It takes me a long time to try and arrive at the right values when color is also a variable. Any critiques or advice would be appreciated.

>>2744035
nice work!

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can someone help me with the perspective on this or anything i messed up on?

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>>2744353
Is her left hand on her hip? The structure of the arm makes it look like that yet we don't see the hand. Even if we did, in that orientation her palm would have to be upside down resting on her pelvis bone which is not a natural pose if you're going for this sassy commanding look.

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>>2744353
I think overall it's accurate. I tried altering the position of her left arm as the anon suggested above. Hope this helps!

>>2744383
>>2744355
thanks for the help.

>>2743257
need answer

>>2743257
need answer

>>2744353
i feel like you are someone who is ahead of me but not so far ahead that it is past my understanding,

can you post some more of your stuff so i can see my what my next step is.

>>2744392
bend that back more

>>2742522
bump

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>>2744495
takes me at least 10 to 20 different sketches to try get the angle right on a single pose might be less or more....

but here are the last two i tried to work on but didnt finish, these were 3 to 4 months ago. kinda got off track for 2 months recently. im sure you can past me in no time.

>>2744576
idk, im still quite bad
i dont do the whole clean line thing, largely because im not digital yet i think.

what did you mostly practice to get to where you are now (in terms of figure drawing)?
what skills can be isolated and trained, in your opinion?

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>>2744579
i just kept drawing boxes, i would draw aimlessly at times "which is bad" but if i were you i would try drawing boxes/rectangles/cylinder all together on different perspective or angles or put them together to make a body. just keep doing it.

Just watch videos of link
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk84EpHmZKQ

Krenz has good lesson on basics, just watch the video.
guys drawing in pic related

>>2743881
Would still appreciate feedback

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how is the construction on my derp chong? i made her derpy on purpose but she seems like shes close to the uncanny valley effect.

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rate my composition lads

>>2744392
why is her right leg floating? the lower left leg shouldnt be forshortened like that. or the lower right for that matter. she's literally have to break her lower leg/knee. which raises the issue of where is her lower right going. it would be stabbing into the lower left leg.

>>2744346
you could try softening the edges. theyre really sharp in your study

>>2744735
composition in terms of how the eye is drawn from the woman to man and vice versa is fine. also, im not an expert but the perspective of the wall seems off. it looks like there should be a corner where the lamp is but isnt being shown? and the window 'in between' the woman and man looks a bit big, like it interrupts the flow between the two characters. i dont understand whats going on in the background where you have the man drawn. honestly you should take this to the draw thread and ask them. none of us knows wtf we're talking about

>>2744734
I know you. As per usual, eyes and mouth are symbols and you drew the philtrum strangely. It's just very amateurish looking.

I think you should really do some work from reference, unless this actually is. If it is from reference, I'd love to see your reference to determine where exactly you go wrong.

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>>2744744
Wow thanks! & this was the perspective guidelines used. So a smaller window would have better flow?

>>2744774
ill just make a suggestion, now that i know thats the corner. those three vertical pics, im assuming they things like degree, certs, etc? if so, that would be weird to put them in the corner. so i think you should switch the place of those pics and window. then both windows are in the corner (makes sense and good for symmetry. and then the three smaller pics serve as something to keep the space between the man and woman interesting yet not overly competing for focus from the main characters. thats just my thoughts though. i suppose a smaller window could work but i think switching them makes more sense

>>2744763
ive been doing a lot of these. none of these have been from reference unless i need to check specific shapes like the mouth or eyes form a certain view. but as in references for specifics im just messing around and doing what i think looks decent. this is just a wip so i plan on incorporating your suggestions on the others and pushing more details in the eyebrows/lashes etc. ill look up how the draw the philtrum properly. but ill assume my construction is done properly?

>>2741837
careful with those rebellious and nonmainstream ideas (^:

Your drawing is just pure wit

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I'm just starting out and did the first page of Loomis

What am I doing write and what am I doing wrong?

>>2744785
hips are too narrow compared to the shoulders

>>2744780
Doing some exercises from the keys to drawing would probably help you a lot.

>>2744796
probably i never read that one but isnt that book like absolute beginner tier? id hate to have to revert to that since ive been at this for two years now

>>2744802
It doesn't matter, it will only help you if you go through it

>>2744802
You're never too experienced to go back and work on fundamentals. It's the fundamentals in the end that separate beginners from adepts.

>>2744802
>>2744796
either way ill check it out

>>2744807
>>2744808
okay im downloading now. also glad i checked, theres a could new ones in the art book main post that werent there when i checked. thanks for tips

How do you deal with sucking?

>>2744825
By knowing I'm doing something to stop sucking, instead of just crying about it.

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Is this good

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>>2744793
I think I fixed it

>>2744831
those very pages youre reading have the head size measurmemts for hip width

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It's been like an year since I've stopped consistently drawing, and more than that since I stopped halfway through a Loomis book.
I wasn't always this shitty. Should I go back to the basics?

>>2744871
Did you ever do keys to drawing? If not, do it, it's really great.

>>2744785
>>2744831
Resize to 1000 pixels longest side.

>>2744829
Can you fap to it? If the answer is yes, it's good.

>>2744942
>fapping to your own work

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value study

>>2744829
you are improving

>>2743257
need answer

>>2744734
Still coloring I see.

>>2744734
you really need to start practicing a simplified version of what you are doing

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>>2742439
fvck. how do i draw hair with pencil?

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>>2741824
I personally think face is a bit elongated, and I am shitty at hair, gimme advice pls

>>2745063
Try drawing less symbols

>>2744871
Have you ever done an anatomical study before? What you drew is what you think the human body looks like, not what it actually looks like. It might be time to hit up Drawabox as well since it's really flat.

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Day 1 of trying to draw bodies, and it's clear that I have a long way to go.

Any links to resources that can help me draw torsos and pelvises would be really helpful

why the fuck wont anyone answer my post

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>>2741820
Decided today to learnt to draw, so this is my first try on anything but stopped cos I have no idea what I'm doing.
1. It doesn't look like the picture, just some generic person
2. Where do I learn to shade stuff good - I've just done a shitty line drawing, none of that value business malarkey :(
3. I'll read through that wonderful sticky desu I just hoped by posting something I might hold myself accountable to continuing cos I had fun.

>>2745108
which post

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>>2742483
I'm posting this in too many threads right now, but what the heck. I put some more volume on top of the head after this. used a mirror.

>>2745111
>>2743257

>>2745124
>>2745124
>>2745124

NEW THREAD

>>2745124
>>2745124
>>2745124

>>2744735
It all depends on how you finish the lighting. Youve included a lot of lines and subjects that are going off the picture plane, so it depends if you try to counteract thats.

The girls well drawn, though her back leg looks a little high up to connect to her hips correctly.

>>2743881
if you're going for something realistic, yeah, half the image ends up being grey with white only at the brightest points.

your lineart had issues from the getgo, you started shading before you defined her fingers.

this has a lot of basic anatomical problems. her neck and joints are all messed up, she basically doesn't have wrists or elbows. that is what i would work on first, then learn to draw cloth with hang.

>>2743678
>>2743679
This is fucking inspiring
What all did you do in that year to get from there to here?