Animation Thread

does anyone know good tutorisls for learning toonboom harmony?

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Can anyone recommend a good animation light box? Looking for something around $150 or less.

>>2741451
Buy a transparent clipboard.

Buy a couple feet of white LED strip.

Put all toghether.

Put in table.

All below $20

Plus it's portable.

>>2741476
Yea, but I want a sexy table. Nothing too large, and I'd like one of those plexiglass animation disc.

Budget isn't a concern, but at the same time I don't want to spend too much on one.

>>2741146

God Tier CRCR.

>>2741283
https://learn.toonboom.com/modules

>>2741497
>Budget isn't a concern, but at the same time I don't want to spend too much on one.
so it is a concern

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Newfag here, making my way through Animator's survival kit.
Is this the correct way to do simple animation?
>lay down the keys
>lay down an inbetween timed evenly but spaced closer to the still phase
>repeat step 2 until good

Also, is it a good idea to do 24 or 12 frame animation? It seems stupid, you can't break it down into frames with even timing.

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Just a copy. I guess I learned something from it

>>2742497
>is it a good idea to do 24 or 12 frame animation?

I would just stick to 24 fps and shoot it on 2s which makes it the same as if you chose 12fps but also gives you the option of making some frames 1s for when theres a really fast motion.

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I want to learn ToonBoom but the trial is only 21 days, why is this software so hard to get for "hobbyists", the limited version of the software is $300 so I was considering buying it but I don't think 21 days is enough to make my mind up when I have been using flash for so many years.

Here's something I made while trying to learn it.

>>2742690
he throws like a girl.

>>2743162
I feel kinda bad for saying this, but dude, there are so many better ways to use up $300. ToonBoom is a widespread software, surely you can find a crack, a torrent, something.

>>2743312
Do you mean because the animation I made was bad I shouldn't bother buying the software?

>>2743318
Yes. that is exactly what he said.

>>2743321

I was just clarifying because I didn't want him to go on that test animation as a basis on skill.

Also I can't find a good toon boom torrent...

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my first walk cycle. thoughts on this masterpiece?

>>2743381

Keep the body in one spot as if he's walking on a thread mill at a steady pace. Your frames are sliding forward and backward for no good reason. Fix the lines too and make them have a consistent thickness, although this can have a artistic effect if that's what you're going for it hurts the readability.

>>2743162
get toonboom if you want but im pretty sure Macromedia Flash 8 is free and most YT animators use it

>>2743461
Every thing is free on the internet anon...

>>2743498
except tv paint 11

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>>2741146

I have a hard time staying focused for more than an hour, but I work so slow I can barely do anything at all. I need advice

>>2743692
>I can barely do anything at all.
are you working on actual scenes that are part of something bigger? or just doodling and doing pencil tests? if it's part of something bigger that can be motivating, like "X more frames and I'll be done with this scene"

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>>2743381
I tried to keep the body fixed

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Not gonna make it, senpais.

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>>2743710
jesus man I mostly posted it to bump the thread with something related, the whole thing is hot garbage whether the body is kept centered or not. nothing short of a complete rework will make it look good.

>>2743723
looks bretty gud fampai, what are you stressing about?

>>2743723
Love it

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>>2743710

Lots of flaws, but you can start by working with fewer frames and try to work on making better keyframes with the up, down etc. positions of a walk. I took your animation and removed your weirdest looking ones. It looks a bit better but obviously a lot of work to do still

What's a good regimen for animation?

>>2743764
hyperbolic time chamber, a copy of animator survival kit, and video player that can frame by frame whatever animation scenes that inspired you.

>>2743764
>>2743771

Oh, and music too

>>2743753
>>2743710

thanks for the feedback anons. I kinda started that walk before I got into the videos where he talks about ups downs and 12 frame walks more in depth so I just finished it with what I had more or less. The next one I'll set up properly and work more on line consistency.

>>2743764
what's your skill level? besides the obvious things like practice every day (on top of drawing practice) and survival kit exercises, it depends what you hope to focus on. though is there really anything other than character animation? most backgrounds are pretty still, though it would be interesting to see someone who wants to focus on environment animations that don't have to do with a character.

>>2743744
>>2743747

Thank you! I'm very self conciseness about my art. It's nice to hear such things.

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>>2743778
I'm trying to make a 30-second thing with one still background for the most part. It's just lots of character animation. I would like to finish it before a week passes.

>>2743791

I like it, but work on the in-betweens. If you add more frames, I'd be more fluid.

>>2743824
I can't be bothered with that anymore. I got it corrupted halfway through working on it and had to recover via using the last outputted gif file. It sucked.

Now I just wanna make a new fluid animation to the tune of music

>>2743791
The stumble is too hectic, it doesn't read too well because it happens so fast and the spacing, especially with the arms is too great.

>>2743778
>The next one I'll set up properly and work more on line consistency.

You could just use the same size brush?

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>>2743970
I was, it's just that my tablet pen pressure sensitivity was way too sensitive, I turned it down a bit and that helped. here's a new try, with no arms

>>2744254
Better. Try to clean up the head, and watch those pauses on the legs. It is starting to get a robotic feel to the walk because of the slight pause when the feet are at the extremes.

anybody got a DL link for a decent version of modo?

>>2741146
Can I talk about how awful the animation industry is. It was proven recently of how Sausage Party didn't credit half of their animators. And I think they pointed this out on Rebel Taxi's Pizza Party Podcast about how animators sometimes never get to show their full talent. Like they just animate an arm moving and get a shitty pay. As someone who really appreciates animation, I sure do think it's a fucked business.

>>2744446
Yeah. I initially wanted to work in it but I've pivoted toward storyboarding or just pursuing independent animation on my own. Kinda like Don hertzfelt does. No corporate animated movies even come close to his work imo and he uses like minimal animation to get the point across. If people took chances and let new animators helm stuff I think the industry would be in a much better place now.

>>2744446
The internet allows for creative talents to get together and both make a living and be creative at the same time no? Of course mainstream Hollywood big budget animation must suck with all the deadlines and budget pressures and all of that since there's literally millions of dollars on the line and hundreds of people involved. More money involved = less risks taken, and being creative is literally taking risk and straying from the established path.

Of course this is no excuse for the shit that goes on like what you said with Sausage Party. Unfortunately artists are always very easy to be taken advantage of by men in suits and this will never change.

>>2744420
try cgpeers

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Dunno if you guys are cool with posting 3D animations, but here's a quick thing I did.

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>>2745009
good spacing, but add some contrast to the spine to really sell the weight. have it go convex a bit on the way down

>>2745039
what book is this image from?

>>2744492
Wasn't it like a new company that animated and produced SP? That fucks them over big time where it isn't like Disney or Warner Bros where they're big companies and no one cares if they do scummy shit like SP did. So basically whatever company did it really fucked up.

>>2744454
Yeah it seems like today all you can do to get some appreciation and credit is of you do character design or story board.

>>2745136
The style makes me think Animator's. Survival Kit

>>2745136
>>2745167
yep. I recommend finding a torrent of the DVDs, seeing some of that stuff in motion is really mindblowing. Animator's survival kit should be required reading/watching for anyone even remotely interesting in animation.

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>>2745039
here's a webm of it I did, should have done this instead of that image

>>2745236
Williams isn't long for this world so I don't care too much about taking his shit-I own the book already anyway but his DVDs (in which I believe he basically recited the text of the book verbatim) are a national treasure.

tl;dr

MOAR

>>2745236
I know this might be an unpopular opinion but I really hate how he animates everything on 1s, it makes everything look weird and floaty

>>2745258
Yea i don't know what it is about it but i prefer twos for regular actions. However is the camera is panning and the character is walking/running, it only works on ones. Othewise on twos since camera is moving and everything else is still you get a jittering motion. Otherwise I like the twos.

>>2744446
This is the reality of working on a big production that requires so much manpower. How naive can you get?
I'm with you that they need to credit everyone though.

>>2745258
>>2745371
I like the aesthetic. It has this element of transfiguration in the poses even though they are consistent

>>2741968
Make that final frame about a second longer. I imagine the "BUMP" is the main focus of the animation, so you want people to be able to read it.

You could either draw another two frames and just repeat the three of them, or you could just extend the final one.

>>2742690
Love it. I love how in some frames you've only done the outline of the body. Adds A LOT stylistically, keep it up.

>>2745258
>it makes everything look weird and floaty
so weird to me that people think this. 1s always look fluid as hell to me, while 2s look boring and stiff.

>>2745542
Satanic Crowley ritual.

Don't look into it, fucked up shit.

>>2745009
nice

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anyone got tutorials on how to make the animation effect like this?

>>2746127
i dont know but its using some kind of soft deformers rig, something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twUz99ek5do&t=5s

>>2746139
Really weird. Suited for chinkshit tho

>>2746127
Looks like after effects puppet warp mesh tool.

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>>2743723

>>2742378
kek, u got a point

https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/17072/animated-debris-effects-fighting-mecha-mitsuo_iso-

This just blows my fucking mind

Is there a way to animate puppet warm animations using PS? I can't afford AE for sht also my CPU is only 32 bit so I can't download it either unless I get the old CS4 version which doesn't really help?

>>2746333
PS doesn't have that.

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Can someone tell me the basic requirements for a portfolio to get an animation job in america?

Like, should I show I can draw and animate an anatomically correct figure running at different angles and what not?

Also, is hentai a big no no?

>>2746706
>saw a video about this earlier this year
>1-2 min demo reel
>show best work first
>show second best last
I dont know what im talking about

>>2741497
I got a piece of 12" x 12" white smoked plexiglass from Amazon for 5 bucks. Shipping was $7 though.

For the pegs, I made a rubber mold from the portable light boxes at my school, and have plastic to make as many peg bars as I want.

Still don't know how I'm gonna make the box though, or if I want to go to a hardware store or some place to cut the plexiglass into a circle. I want to make it as portable as possible without going over $40 (I already had the molding and casting stuff for something else but that stuff is over 60$ and that's not even talking about dyes or transparent plastic)

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I was looking for reference images of Schoolhouse Rock because I want to emulate the art style in an animation assignment and lo and behold, three pages into google images...

weird fetish porn on deviantart.

At least it wasn’t like searching for “Argonian” and finding a detailed drawing of one jerking off into a beer stein (for what goddamn purpose?) right at the top of the fucking page.

>>2746706
>Also, is hentai a big no no?

are you the kinda guy who makes holocaust jokes to people you don't know

you sound like you're that kinda guy

>>2745009
pretty gud

>>2746127
after effects

>>2746308
as it should. it's what happens when you get some of the best animators japan has working together. I think the mechs will be 3D in the last one though, which kinda sucks.

>>2746308
>>2746942
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/25142/animated-background_animation-debris-effects-explo

Crazy shit.

>>2746706
>Can someone tell me the basic requirements for a portfolio to get an animation job in america?
I bet you also want to work at nintendo when you grow up

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>>2746127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SgJQSSRphk

>>2743162
flash 3 is the best version BC it takes bigger files. and its everywhere for free arrg!

>>2745258
floaty is the wrong word here, but it's distracting. especially when the char is built with such basic shapes. there is something uncanny about his perfect timing and all.
still there is no question he is a great craftsman and a good teacher.

>>2746139
I didn't know this type of shit was even possible. That's so fucking cool, but it probably took a bitch load of time.

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>>2746707
thanks for answering. Ill keep that in mind. Wont be too hard when these retarded autists >>2746862 >>2746982 are my competition

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just some running guy

would you say motion graphics is faster/easier compared to conventional animation?

>>2747308
needs a few more frames to ease it in between contacts with the ground but not bad.

>>2747329
a bit easier to do but just as hard to make look good, I'd say. Still need to know the principles of what makes good animation.

In TVP is there a way to set color mode and eraser mode to have different stats? Like if color mode has size 3 and eraser mode has size 100?

I saw a bunch of people doing it but they were doing it with eraser pens and I have a non-eraser pen.

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>>2744254
>>2744356

added arms but not really too happy how it turned out.

>>2747370
The wrist and palm meet at the gooch you silly f*cker. The hands should be lower

>>2745258
>>2747080
I've been meaning to say this but I can never sit through Richard Williams' stuff.

I think its both my fault as the viewer and his tho. I beleive Williams work communicates something beyond movement, and I walk in expecting to see something friendly. His work is not friendly at all. The characters move like demons. They have no beat to them. I wouldn't say they're lifeless, no, but they are hellish in a way.

Could be my simply being overwhelmed by the amount of work that went into it, but maybe Williams is also satan. maybe he has seen death and communicates it in his work. Maybe thats why he animates it all in 1s- there is no breathe for the viewer. You must see his energy without pause, that which constantly moves, lurching, mocking real life...

I dont think he draws for the viewer in mind at all. I think he is literally a demon. He is the Zdzislaw Beksinski of animation.

>>2746987
>facial animation
>gif
>doesn't move
And I think you need to repost it, Youtube isn't allowing it to play.

>>2747329
If
>Art Skill > Modelling/Rigging Skill
Then the former would be better, vice versa.

Neither is better than the other if you suck at both. It's all determined on your skill level on the object.

Does anybody know if I have to be good at math to make 3d body meshes and stuff?

>>2747370
I mean that's good you're trying FBF but man you should really learn some basic drawing/anatomy before you attempt further. It's gonna really fuck you hard for more complex stuff.

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>>2747369
I actually wrote an external script in AutoIT to solve this because it bothered me that much, but external scripts still have lag and are unreliable.

>>2747923
Why would you need to be? I haven't made anything professional in 3d but it doesn't seem like you'd need to.

>>2747369
>>2748138
both are me in case it's unclear

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>>2748138
Sounds like you solved your own problem but I don't understand why not just switch between eraser and pen tools rather than changing the settings of one tool?

sweet gif too did you make it?

>>2747591
kek i think you hit the nail right on the head. maybe this is what bothers me so much about his work

Does anyone use any open-source animation software? I've been trying to use OpenToonz, but it's such a headache I'd rather just give up animating.
Synfig, Pencil2D, and Tupi seem alright. Does anyone know how effective these are?
I'd prefer to not pirate anything if I can avoid it.

>>2748421
I've been using Tupi on my Linux machine for a while. I need to switch soon though, I wouldn't recommend it. The amount of times that software randomly deletes frames is fucking infuriating. But maybe it's just my os idfk.

Anybody use Clip Studio Paint? Any good projects on the internet? Any criticisms?

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>>2748963
I use the program, the EX version.

Right now I'm story boarding for a school project.

It's based on The Dust Bowl in the Canadian prairies that swallowed vehicles and made small deserts during the 1930's (great depression era)

It's not finished but I'd like anyone to give me feedback

>>2748979
>Those look stiff as all fuck.
>The close out shots have a stiff and not very good angle. Unless you want to do something majestic with the scenario it'll not work very well.
>Your anatomy and frame art lack and it'll show in the final product. Learn stationary and put it to motion.
>A (darude) sandstorm is way too powerful to even survive, do your homework before making an idea into animu. It also takes longer for it to come near and is very noticeable.
>Try exploring other angles, it makes things interesting.
>The way she acts goes off the way humans behave. There seems to be close to no surprise upon the sandstorm and, when talking, people move their body in a way to express their feelings.

Learn from the world around you and it's slight nuances, the way people talk, the way they move, everything is key.
Look into some key frames from animes, like evangelion and Gundam (there's a thread on /t/ with art books, look it up).

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>>2749001
very thank you

I was to make a silent film

in a lot of this I took shortcuts with the details for a lot of the ones with people in it like "copy, paste, change opacity, make new pose for moving woman. erase old one. restore opacity, merge new layer"

I figured that it could be done because we use a shitty ceiling-mount projector and it won't catch all the details of the far shots anyway and just make the two little buggers like in pic related

The close ups, I have no excuse for them. I see your point on angles

I thought "It's a yuge wall of sand.. I'm sure they'll be fine" then I looked through what they could do and that quickly changed. Maybe I should have them notice the big cloud of doom and book it back to their homestead and play out "Black Sunday"

the last bit was supposed to be her running to the kid and step on the front of her dress, trip, then quickly scurry to shield the kid from harm, but that has to change.

Again, thank you, and sorry if it sounds like I spewed bullshit trying to justify my crap.

>>2748449
Thanks, that's the kind of stuff I'd like to avoid. OpenToonz freezes or crashes occasionally as well, and I can't paste pictures from other programs. I'd really prefer to draw and colour in different program and paste all my frames into the animation studio. OT has shit drawing tools as well.

>>2749078
No, you made yourself pretty clear and concise.

Even if it's a shitty projector in the shittiest possible conditions you should do a good work. Don't be lazy, it'll sure bite you in the ass since your next step will ask for that.

Also, make EVERY FUCKING SECOND count, tell the most with as little time you can. Make frames with more story telling, be creative.

It seems like it's for uni/school, so you have to show potential. Put every thing in a touching, well done, short story. Remember you're not working with audio, so it's harder to transmit emotion.

Focus on the things that people care most, don't forget the details that people like and notice even in second plane. Add Easter eggs, like a sand Pepe really... really light, for example, those who see it will forever remember the Easter egg, even if little and in the clothing. It doesn't even need to be an easter egg, just make something memorable.

>>2749078
>>2749089 here
Also, that pic has a generic bit nice composition. It's a good angle.

>>2749089
>>2749091
Oh you lovely, person, I'd hug you if I could.

No, it's for high school.

I'm going to aim for 1:30 - 3:00 minutes (Pray for me m80's)

I've always loved adding little stuff like that, but I'll put those in after the bigger stuff is taken care of.

>>2749112
Yeah, tackle the big problems first and keep going down to the small ones.

I'd do every thing in 1:30 at most. You probably never actually animated to completion, so you probably don't know how time consuming it is.

Things like in and out of focus layer really catch attention in a good way, that is, if done right, being quite simple to do as well.

Look into Gobelins animation school's student's graduation works, they are really simple and short, but not even close to plain and lacking content.

>>2749126
You got me there, I haven't completed one (yet) but I now how long it takes. It took me took 6 hours to make a 8 seconds, but I was so proud and happy when I watched it.

hey guyz!
i am new to the community,
i want to learn harmony 14 from toon boom,but its nt free,is there any way to bypass it, or an alternate software that is better than harmony.
pls help

>>2749559
torrents are a friend to the cheap/poor, try looking through links online, but be careful on what you download unless you got Norton to fix your problems. look through >>>/t/ see if there's a thread for what you're looking for.

[spoiler]if this some kind of bait for wasting my time then go suck shit, you just reeled one in[/spoiler]

[spoiler]if it's not what thought it was, than I'm very sorry[/spoiler]

>>2749567
>but be careful on what you download unless you got Norton to fix your problems
Windows defender(if on windows), Malwarebytes, Sandboxie. Literally all you need.

>>2749621
Those still give you a false positive for keygens though, don't they? That still makes it chancy to trust what you're downloading.
I'm personally kind of a pussy about torrenting software after seeing some cases of that go poorly for myself and other people.

>>2749665
>false positive for keygens
For MB yes, not sure about windows defender. And for Sandboxie, that's just the best to have.

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bump

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How did they achieve it?

>>2750440
>they achieve
They didn't, this is god's work.

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>>2750440
After Effects
>Make 2 duplicate layers of the stock footage.
>layer 1 stays the same. layer 2 you change according to how you want it to move (mask out the areas you dont want to move and stretch/modify the rest)
>once everything is how you like it make a new comp and drag the first one into the new one
split in half and arrange them so that the last half is first and first hafl is last.

>>2751204
copypasted this from https://www.reddit.com/r/replications/comments/374oz8/visual_drifting_tutorial_please/?st=ivslq336&sh=fe6816ea
so not sure if it works but they seem like they know what theyre talking about

>>2751668
Movements look stiff. You may lose some precision if you're not used to it, but get used to animating like you draw gesture. Big, expressive lines.

I'm also confused about what the actual fuck is going on in this scene, but I may as well be dumb.

What software is good these days? I used to use flash all the time back in the day but I lost interest. I want to get back into animation.

>>2751887
Toon boom is the industry standard, but if you're doing it for fun use whatever.

>>2745454
It was just a silly thing i've added, but that's a very good point! Thanks!

>>2748421
What functionalities do you need? I bang my head against GIMP and despite that i had to write a few scripts to provide myself quick onionskinning it's pretty usable. But i'm just a beginner.

>>2743381
absolute failure did you even readthe sticky you fucking inbreed

>>2743381
I unironically like it. I don't know. It's hypnotic, and it goes well with some music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOaxEa5ONJw

>>2748138
>script stops working for no apparent reason now
>stops working whenever i draw with tablet but works whenever i draw with mouse

kill me

>>2748245
ye

>>2752472
Kill Windows
Get gentoo

But for real, check drivers, try downgrading them and try reinstalling OS if it persists. Check on another computer to see if the problem is not the tablet itself.

>>2752153
I'm still very much a beginner as well. I've only done a few basic ball bouncing and head turning exercises a few months ago, and now my friend wants me to help him make some key frames for a simple cartoon he's doing, so I decided to get back into it.
I'm not looking for much. I just need onion skinning, multiple animation layers if I need to animate something with different moving parts, some sort of x-sheet layout to organize the scenes, and the ability to copy/paste or import external images.
OT can do most of that stuff, but aside from being buggy, I found that I can't copy or import any external images into it, so if I want to draw over an existing frame as an underlay, I can't import it into OT. Also, the drawing tools for OT feel pretty limited, but that'll be more of an issue when I get better at drawing/animating.

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>>2752477
I think the problem is that when u draw with the tablet it goes into pressure sensitive mode, and stays that way for about 2 seconds after u take away the pen. When the script tries to click on the eraser size GUI, or eraser opacity GUI, the pressure sensitivity is at 0 because I'm not actually drawing so it can't click it.

If I use mouse instead of tablet to draw the pressure sensitivity turns off so the script works then since sensitivity is always at 100%.
Unfortunately I'm not sure there's a solution for this my animation dreams might be kill.

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>>2748979
learn shot type in movies and use the jp storyboard template "it easier to visualize when you have more horizontal spaces instead of those 1:1 squares"

also think about the in term of moments and how to show emotion if needed.

eg pic related.

For those asking it's from uchouten kazoku ep1

>>2744254
holy shit is it even the same person that animated it?

>>2748076
are you kidding? look at spazkid
the animations are good even though he sucks at drawing...

does anyone know where i can get tv paint for mac for free?

>>2742690
looks so good, almost looks like it rotoscoped. you have a tumblr?

How do you guys feel about all the live action movies based on animated flicks that are getting made now?

I personally feel like a lot of the magic is lost and don't really get the point aside from $$$. Especially with all the stuff Disney is releasing now, I feel like they nailed all of those stories perfectly the first time. Same goes for the Ghost in The Shell thing that's getting made.

>>2752836
It's all money, and a lot of people, especially in the west, aren't as dedicated to do a full length animated movie anymore. Our work ethic has declined because we can get away with less. Also, the west has always tied animation with children shit. If you tell an average person you're doing comics or animation, they'll instantly think you make kid's cartoons.
Western animation will be great again, one day.

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Working on an animatic for class.

>>2753509
i would move his head around more, its always facing the same direction which makes it look a little stiff

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>>2752363

no need to be rude dude... just because you have 0 skills doesnt mean you have to be a douche to others

>>2753514
Thanks anon, you're right, it is a bit stiff. Much appreciated- I'll keep that in mind. That's definitely something I need to work on.

Not sure if it reads well in this particular shot but he's supposed to be having a sort of non-verbal standoff with the person behind the desk.

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the laughing seems a bit fast do i need to add another frame?

http://flipbook.in/id/1479942419

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>>2753732

>>2753509

Why is he so fucking ugly?

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>>2753644
Maybe slow it down a bit

>>2753822
I dunno, anon he kinda reminds me of Roxanne with that big nose and mark under the eye

>>2754120
Nice reflects and all

>>2745236
RIP

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm guessing it is.

Thinking of trying out drawn animation. Just wondering what some good software would be for a complete beginner, at least a beginner to digital animation anyway.

>>2754205
We should really add a FAQ to the OP, this question gets asked every thread.
I'm not the best to answer but I started off with Flash, maybe it's a bit complicated for a complete beginner but once you look at tutorials its not bad. There are more basic free options too like Pencil2D and Easytoon. oh yeah and Krita

>>2745236
>that back posture when lifting the weight
ew

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just trying to learn some cool angles and shots with no context behind them.

it's fun learning from movies and shows you like. i find horror to have the most interesting/weird shots.

>>2754441

Opinion time:

Playing around with cool angles is fine, for sure, but something a lot of animators do when starting out is try out all these super difficult cool prespectives and shots with dynamic cameras and crazy three point perspectives.

They look cool, but realistically speaking you shouldn't design scenes that will be such a great burden for your animators (or for yourself).

It's just not very effective and has a great risk of looking like shit if the animator doesn't have the necessary skills to execute it properly.

That first cut is quite challenging from animation point of view.

>>2754466
Oh for sure, especially if it's animated with rigs a scene like mine would be hard/impossible.

>>2754486
This is why i hate rigs. It's so limiting. Hand drawn all the way

>>2754490
My nignog.

If only it didn't take so much time and money.

I will just go for storyboard revisionist, they have lots fun and send it off to Korea or Nam to be animated.

Might also try to go for Calarts, a teacher at SVA went there and says their story oriented classes are great.

>>2745258
Richard Williams has the habit of not caring about the individuality of poses and cares way too much about smooth motion which does make his stuff look very floaty (but also smooth) because the poses mean close to nothing.

I can't believe so much people regard him as a master of classic animation principals. His work is closer to Russian Soviet era animation than classic American stuff.

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Any advice on this animated short I made? Looking to improve overall with future endeavors and would like to know any specifics that could be better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi02Bm7jsvs

>>2754753
>le funny stretchy neck and contorted faces

If its anything like that picture its probably Oney wannabe uninspired trash

>>2754758
Update: yeah it sucked
>muh vaporwave

>>2754760
>muh thing
isn't a valid reason to dislike something

>>2754758
>>2754760
so what your saying is to think for myself and avoid any use of vaporwave at any cost

>>2754766
Nah the reason i dont like it is because its shitty.

>muh vaporwave
is because youre a memester trying to inflate an otherwise garbage animation with wackiness

>>2754801
Just the first one

>>2754441
Why does he have titties in some of the frames?

>>2754123
>>2754120

actually yee, it is... this is all hand drawn right? I'd look into Chluaid's SFX course if you're into that stuff. http://bitey.com/fx/

>>2754441
why are they heavy blocky clay people?

>>2754441
Why are they gay?

>>2754801
vaporwave is fine, just try to avoid meme-ing it up.

>>2754850
>>2754954
>>2754976

Why are you retarded? Trying to derail the thread?

>>2754952
Yeah. Thanks i heard about his course before but never really looked into it. Might be worth it

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>>2755738
I must say that a lot of the work you put into this is a waste of time. Animation is all about transformation. Change. Most of the drawings here are literally the same pose and expression drawn over and over again with tiny alterations.

You could do this whole thing with four drawings. You don't need all those frames between the first pose and the blink to get the same effect. All those useless frames are just luxury, those are the frames that you do when you're done with everything else.

So instead of doing all this and ending the acting abruptly, you should have worked smart and got a lot more done.


Smoothness=/=quality.

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im incredibly new to animation but im trying to make a short film. This is my animatic so far. Im using adobe flash but I really dont like how it doesnt let you have much freedom in the brush settings. What other programs are there that are free/ have a crack? Also general critique is much appriciated

>>2745039
Snap city folks.

>>2755993
krita or something else google would know of.

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flipnote is a beautiful thing...

>>2754753
>>2754753
Made me very uncomfortable but also kind of nervously giggle. I could see you having a future at adult swim.

>>2756285
>>2756043
>>2753644
>>2753821
>>2751668
Please learn to draw before breaking your teeth on animation. You can't expect to juggle time and space if you can't juggle space alone.
Even Animator's survival kit tells you that learning to draw (Durer's work recommended) and life drawing is one of the most crucial steps in getting sorta good at animation.

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>>2756303
Fuck you + it's an evidence to have to learn to draw but you must dislike fun and animation if you never animated while being shit at drawing.

Please don't watch porn before majority, seriously.

>>2751668
Plus this one is only a first step I don't know what you think is wrong with doing such a thing, get your nose out of your book and start animating directly with great drawings, it doesn't work like that. Please Mitsuo Iso learn to draw.

>>2756328
>>2756303
As for management of space, most people wouldn't be here if you couldn't paste your shit opinion on their WIP but your criticism here is really vain.

>>2745236
Mayor of snap city right there

>>2746858
buy dvd/bluray or pirate what you can find, get high quality versions of it and make your own reference from screenshots.

>>2756303
Though I get where you're coming from in that a lot of the people you are responding to need to work on their fundamentals, I think it's more importantthat one should be working from observation and analysis, whether they are making moving or static drawings. You can develop your animation skill independently from your drawing skill, but ideally it should be interdependent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTMgTVmqLIo
link related for someone that has developed their animation skill to a professional level while being on a drawing skill level that a lot of d/ic/ks would shit on. (Not that this is ideal, just that it is one way to do things.)

Does everybody in here use a cintiq?

>>2756328
>>2756331
..are you trying to derail the competition? I really don't understand how you can disagree with that statement.
Drawing is the foundation of every other art form and the easiest introduction to the fundamentals, if you skip it, well... good luck with that.

>>2756427
Scratch that, all of them do. All of us do.

>>2756459
Before learning to draw you should learn to read

>>2756440
yes.

>>2756303
>faggot who doesn't know anything about animation or drawing giving advice
>POW faggot

>>2756440
I don't, most of us use an intuos i bet.

>>2756303
how the fuck can you judge thus guys >>2751668 skill? It's literally just basic construction. That's how I know you're full of shit.

>>2756601
at that point you might as well spend $200 extra and get an XP-PEN

>>2756729
I don't like drawing on a screen though. My hand covers up a big part of it, theres always a gap between screen and nib and it gets inaccurate at the corners, that was my experience from drawing on a cintiq anyway. it really annoyed me

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Hi, I'm new to this board so let me show you my stuff. I'm currently just living life and hoping to make as a wannabe storyboard artist. I'm great at copying art but just can't seem to make original content because I find it cringy, anyone else get this feeling? http://vocaroo.com/i/s1qGU0FIUiMv I also like to voice act.

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>>2756937
Good try but you forgot to add a nickname to the name field and make your own thread
Better luck next time

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I want to start building a storyboard folio but I really suck at writing. Does anyone know where I could find scripts like the ones a storyboarder would be given so I can practice?

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>>2757073
idk about scripts, but have you tried reading through a storyboard while watching its movie?

>>2757085
Yes I did this with Kiki's Delivery Service and learned a lot.

>>2757073
idk about scripts that would specifically help with story boarding but the scripts for most movies are up online. Here's a site with a bunch of scripts on there, maybe try storyboarding the first couple scenes of critically acclaimed movies and then compare what you did with the actual movie to see how you differed.

>>2757153
Did you mean to link something?

>>2757282
whoops yeah

http://www.moviescriptsandscreenplays.com/

>>2757312
>>2757153
Thanks. Im gonna try this

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can you help me with any advice? how can I save this? is the head moving too much? (it's kinda floaty, it'll be a pain in the ass to fix this, because I undeliberatly merged the layer with another one.

>>2757485
Yeah is think the head moves too much, body and hair looks good to me though. I suggest just erase the head and do it again straight ahead

>>2757485
You can definitely cut down on the head sway, generally heads only move up and down rather than side to side in a walk. His gait seems a little weird, like it's very wide and he never fully extends his legs, but it kinda works with the caveman vibe.

>>2757490
>>2757493
right, thank you. there is no way around, I have to redo the head.

Anyone knows how to install lazybrush plug in on Tvpaint portable?

can somebody post that fox with the banjo again?

>>2757626
can you be more specific?

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>>2757630
somebody posted a walkcycle of a fox with a banjo here a while ago.

Thinking about starting a storyboard for my class about gender. Anyone have any poetry about it? I believe it's a door we each choose to enter the world.

>>2756303
this.
>>2751668 is all right, though.

>>2757708
I think you might be in the wrong neighborhood... But in any case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmKix-75dsg

>>2757073
What a lot of people do is take excerpts or scenes from books and try and board based on that.

You can also try boarding something without dialogue. Those can honestly make an impression especially since what a lot of people look for in storyboard portfolios is clarity. If you can show off that you can tell a story clearly, even without dialogue, you're good to go.

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>>2757073
Just do fairytales m8
greeks, classics, that stuff.
Since people know them already they can give you feedback about them

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any tips on how to animate clean and clean-up?

>>2757485
You seem to be misinterpreting the subtle side to side sway of the whole body in a walk as a head shake.

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hobbyist here and this has got to be the thing I'm most proud of so far. I feel like I do more testing than actual animating a story, but maybe with time I'll learn enough from doing random shit to actually make a decent project.

>>2758130
Also (this is more of an anamatic than animation) this is the first attempt at creating something with an actual story, and I was wondering how my direction and scene construction comes across. I would love any helpful criticism, and I trust /ic/ to give it to me straight.
https://youtu.be/l3H4WMz0F4s

>>2758130
>>2758154
Well your rubberhose is pretty well done. And your comedic pacing is on point, reminds of homestar runner a bit. You're on track if you're aiming for the cartoon comedy shtick, just keep getting more elaborate till you can work up to a fully animated scene.

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>>2741146

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>>2758532

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>>2758533

>>2757918
legs are fine but your clean up line for the head is too different from the rough, it's smaller and too smooth. just redo it and make the clean up match the volume of the rough's head, just a tad bit smoother from one frame to another.

>>2744254
This is such a big improvement already.

How do I get motivated to work on my art?

How do I get motivated to do anything?

>>2758996
I don't know, man.

For me, I just incubate an idea and play around with it until it starts sending shivers down my spine. I then promptly do nothing with it and shitpost.

>>2758996
Give yourself a deadline.

For every day you go over your deadline, one shower you take has to be cold.

>>2759419
Not him

I was thinking of a way to work myself faster, but this will do nicely, thank you.

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>>2748979
sweet lord almighty, that took too long or I'm just lazy.

Critique me now and I'll read them in the morning, people

The people probably still look stiff and six panels of row three were a mistake. What was I thinking there?

>>2752614
I have thought about my 1:1 squares and how they feel like they lack a something and you're right on that, but decided that will be fixed later on when I start on a space of 800x600 or 1024x768 and a PPI of 72, 144, or 300

Maybe a bit ambitious on 1034x768

>>2756817
Its stiff famalam, if that helps, or whatever

>>2757485
Program used?

>>2759461
Work on composition and try to avoid front shots.

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>>2742690
nice

>>2759547
What school?

>>2759547
very nice

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I'm having issues finding a workable and recent ToonBoom download/torrent/whatever, what's the newest version that's available to a poor student without a job who'd be willing to buy it in the future if my art can actually begin paying my bills?

>>2759584
none, it's just my new hobby this year

>>2759607
ty bb

>>2759611
The last cracked version on windows was 10.3. Last cracked on osX was 12.

The freeze trial works on version 12.0.0 for sure, no idea if it works with anything higher (even though there are some guides for 14 i also hear it mightve been fixed).

Alternatively you can use your student id and get harmony premium for 20 a month via studnet id on their site.

>>2759625
Perfect, thanks man, that's exactly what I need. This'll point me in the right direction.

>>2759547
I wanna see you animate something casual/subtle.

>>2759547
the arm motion is sometimes clunky but you know how to play with perspective while still looking correct at first glance

good shit/10

>>2759547
goddamn dude, good shit! How did you improve so fast?

>>2756427
>that animation
Wow it's fucking nothing

>>2760009
This.

>>2759547
reminds me of a scene from that Lupin movie, I think count Cagliostro. Was that influence/ref?

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Well this completely flew under my radar. Have any of you guys used this? Is it any good?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6iltoZlzVxk

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>>2741146
You guys think the character movement is enough to complement the face; if and when i add it?

>>2760406
need more frames imo, frontal animation is always a tough one.

If it was me. Would have a closer shot of the torso and head then I would animate that part again. Unless you're trying to have the character walk forward, stare , reacting to being exposed.

>>2759611
>>2759625
Alright, so I'm trying out 14 since it seems to be working, but now my tablet's pen movement isn't be recognized.

I have Lazy Nezumi and it can hook into the window, but whether I've hooked Lazy Nezumi or not, wiggling my pen doesn't wiggle the mouse unless I'm outside the program.

Anyone have any ideas?

>>2760433
No idea how it fixed itself, but it did; opened the tablet's settings but ultimately didn't change anything, and now it's working.

How is Toonboom for full frame-by-frame animation, especially with bitmaps? I'm using TVPaint because it's the only decent animation program with raster drawing I'd seen, but the interface is ass and now I know you can use rasters in Toonboom I'm wondering if it's worth the switch.

>>2760425
>more frames
alright will do captain!

This is one of those practice animations to see what I need to work on; before animating a storyboard scene. Thank you for the tips man

>>2760471
I personally like ToonBoom Ive been tossing my money at it for about 2 years now. I bought Toon Boom once I got tired of Pencil2d back in 2013. TB is definitely an upgrade if youre used to animating frame-by-frame on Pencil2d. Try their trial before buying famalam

>>2760406
see >>2756303

>>2745009
hey, CG animator here. you need to tighten up the spacing a lot and add some more interest and contrast especially in the rotations. watch out for the swimmy drift you're getting, like near the end. watch those elbows too. good start though.

>>2759547
really cool except mechanically, the recovery is too quick. he definitely needs more time down on his hips when he lands, and he jerks from right to left really suddenly after his first footstep when landing - like he rebounds back when the force should keep him moving. his ending pose is pretty twinned with the arms as well. it's also like they're locked in a plane flat to camera, when if he comes forward they should really have some swing to-and-from camera.

I know this is probably an awful question but which program do use for animation purposes? can you suggest me some that's relatively easy for beginners?

>I think it needs more frames

- person who knows jack shit about critiquing animation.

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Something I finished recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXmN0eIikl8&t

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>>2759547
These few frames I find really awkward, I imagine you tried the sequence without it? The quick double back rather than it coming in as profile seem unneeded and ruin the really nice flow you have going.

Fantastic short all the same though. You might appreciate an ongoing anime called Fune wo Amu for its reserved character animation.

>>2760754
im making the assumption he means, "add ibtwns"

>>2758532
ha, its cute

>>2756303
I have to apologize to >>2751668, it really doesn't belong on the list. It was probably the dislocated shoulder that made me think of it as a weak drawing, without giving it much thought.

>>2761027
Respect for owning up to it.

>>2760009
>>2760106
>improved
I’m mostly just playing to my strengths and trying to widen my scope bit by bit along the way. I’ve been lurking these threads for several times longer than I’ve been animating though and it seems like people are more interested in fancy software or arguing about east v west than actually just animating. I get a lot of shit for doing flashy gifs without doing proper animation exercises first, but by doing things I find appealing I can actually stay interested enough to put in the hours. Walk cycles may be the most important thing, but they’re just not that fun, being an animation snob won't get you anywhere if you can't stay motivated.

>>2760384
Yeah, I haven’t seen it in a while though, I was going to actually make it lupin but I can’t draw faces at all so keeping on model through all of that would’ve been impossible.

>>2760602
The right to left thing is just me failing to convey the camera movement I originally planned. I also wanted to have a couple more frames of him running I’d been at it all day and just wanted to be done.

2760858
Originally there was no whooshing/blurring off screen it was just going to smoothly track around, but there was no sense of speed so I added that in and then didn’t think to remove those unnecessary frames, may have just subconsciously kept them because they looked nice on their own.

>>2761457

I should follow your route. I lose motivation whenever i do exercises

>>2761457
>Walk cycles may be the most important thing
So This.

Btw Your animation style reminds me of okiura a little bit or leans toward that direction, kind of floaty with some of the movement.

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>>2760406

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Made this way earlier this year, one of my first walk cycles -- any suggestions /ic/? Need to git gud

>>2761701
definitely check out the animator survival kit for walk, run, and sneak cycles; if you havent already. Id give your sneak cycle a stompy march sneak out of sneaky sneak

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>>2759547
So cool

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testing out krita

>>2761590
My ideal is a blend of Ohira and Yuasa, I'm decades away from that though.

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>>2741146
Boards in progress

>>2761827
got any tips on storyboards senpai?

>>2761868
Believe in yourself yo. That and learn to draw fine art. Oh and get a mentor that does boards professionally

>>2761874
fosho, thanks!!

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Made this in flipnote3d yesterday. needs a
whole lot of cleanup but I think the general
keyframes were placed properly. whaddya
think, /ic/?

play this song while you're watching, too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I33u_EHLI3w

>>2761988
the large movements side to side take focus away from the boobies which I'm guessing you want to be the focus. less side to side, more up and down would be good on the body as a whole (head too). also watch the spacing on the ponytail and hands so they don't teleport as much and you should be good.

>>2762001
different anon, but you think if the body moved in a figure eight and has better tim8ng and spacing, youd think itd add to the boobage?

>>2762005
>body moving in a figure eight
no, as that would make the viewer's ability to keep an eye on the boobies even worse than just side to side as it is now.

I think when boobs are that big the strength to move their weight comes from the lower back, so the body's movement should be mostly up and down as in a usual walk or run and also a bit of forward towards the camera on the way to the up position and a bit away from the camera on the way to the down position. does that make sense? idk, just my thoughts on how I'd tackle it. so then the boobs are dragged as usual, down as the body goes up and up as the body goes down.

>>2760789
It was good but the animation was pretty simple so not much to crit there. These type of gag animations that are more focused on the writing/humor than making nice looking animation would probably get better feedback on /tv/ or /lit/ or something

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>>2762040
>keep an eye on the boobies even worse
tru tru, but wouldnt the simple up and down bob make the animation feel static? The figure 8 doesnt need to be extreme, just subtle enough to where it complements the boobies.

@3:16 in the video the anon posted, rocky bobs up and down, but theres a sway every time he bobs. I think a figure 8 that has a bit of an arch would be a way to emulate rocky's run. But youre probably right, the figure 8 might take away from the boobies

we shouldnt take away from the boobies

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After consideration of the crits I edited the
positioning and the shoulders. Any better?

>>2762486
very mesmerizing

this is a longshot but does anyone know of a jap animation software that was called pen something? it was in beta with a demo on youtube and there was a blog but i couldn't find it anymore. but the line weighting that could be done in it was really nice.

>>2761701
The drawings are good but definitely look up how animators at Warner Bro's would have done a sneakity sneak like that.

>>2762619
cacani or something?

>>2762861
that's Singaporean isn't it? this one is just some light animation software.

>>2762929
Have you checked the archive? I remember anons talking about animation software a while back, but im usure if its the one youre talking about. If they did, it might be in the archive somewhere

>>2762619
the only jap software i know with pen in the name is "Hanepen"

>>2761701
dank bra

>>2762486
looking at it again the ponytail is swaying alot. i dont have long hair, so i cant jog around my house and see how much it would sway irl. the timing on the hair seems fine, maybe watch the spacing. as for the arms, i think you should check its spacing as well. take it with a grain of salt famalam and keep doing what youre doing!!

Anyone here ever used Moho/Anime studio? I've got the chance to get it fairly cheap, but I haven't really seen it used before or heard of it, since most people use Flash/TVpaint/Toonboom.

The guy who did the final space animation on his youtube got picked up to do a full series for conans channel, pretty neat!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFn4Qg_YFpI

>>2764110
i used anime studio when it was called anime studio. i personally didnt like it, but i didnt give myself to break it in ya know? so my thoughts on it are a little deluded

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i just made this

>>2764603
it looks like actual snowfall, it's great
The guy could use a little blinking action, me thinks

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