DRAW THREAD: DRAW THREAD EDITION

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i havent posted my hands lately. its still all i draw but i usually cant put together a whole page that looks good

>>2714418
blog?

>>2714418

Wtf, it was pretty good at the beginning, but now it's fucked up, most notably the face and her right arm. Keep the lower part of the body and rework the upper imo. This leg is great.

>>2714430
firez-tbr.tumblr.com

Thanks.

>>2714435
I guess I fucked up the foreshortening of the right arm, I will work more on it and the other issues.

Thanks.

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autismfag here thx for everything ic done with life now gonna try and go kill myself be good

>>2714444
>killing yourself
>not suffering in silence
git gud

>>2714418
You starting to tap into that H R Giger jam there Firez? If so, good on you!

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im not really sure where im going with this

>>2714493
That stubborn nigger should learn how to construct a head without chicken scratching before "tapping into" someone actually good

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I'm probably gonna regret posting this shit in the morning, but here's a WIP study before I go off to sleep. Goodnight /ic/.

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I've seen how generous people are here at time.

Can someone help me with the shadows for the castle. do a quick paint over.

>>2714572
ignoring the eye mis alignment this is pretty solid

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Random sketch

>>2714572
>EmilyHaines
thought this was a dude at first before i read the file name. aside from that it looks great!

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>>2714586
This is what I would do, hope it helps.

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I never like anything I paint, how do I make this more appealing?

>>2714415
link the new thread u retarded fuck

>>2714417
yawn

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>>2714415
what am i doing wrong senpais?

>>2714683
Your values are everywhere, but that may be attributed to not being so polished. I can see you haven't established your light source yet, you might have a hard time rendering the piece because you didn't establish it first. Anyway, awesome anatomy, I love how the pecs attaches to the arms and your piece catches it well I also like the concept a lot. You might want to take a peak at some Anthony Jones pieces, they look so 3d and well formed, I also recommend some Dave Rapoza ninja turtles stuff for reference as to how you can bring your piece to the next level. Good luck.

Tl;dr values

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>>2714661
Know what you can do? You can stop the noodling and get up some reference in this bitch to get your painting to the next level.
Seriously anon, look at some images to inform your next moves because up until now all you created is a nice oxymoron, that is it screams "boring" right in my face with a fury.
I think most importantly you should think about the lighting conditions in your image, think about where the scene is set up. Right now it's giving me nothing. Where is she? What mood is this supposed to give off?
By settling on a scene/ lighting condition you can create mood, story and basically inform all your next moves on this painting.
Of course if a blank stare, studio lit model shot is what you are going for, do it, but then look up ref for that and try to really nail it.
Also by looking at related images you might get an idea or strike of inspiration you just wouldn't have gotten by trying to figure it all out on your own. Maybe you really like the way the sunlight interacts with the hair or the detail on the collar of an image you find and that might be just the appeal you are looking for.

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Is this a good thumbnail for a mech? I plan to draw on far larger scale using it as a basis.

>>2714417
nice

>>2714637
>>2714586
the perspective needs some work, its hard to get a good sense of scale. The composition could also be worked a bit more pretty boring with the castle set dead center.

>>2714707
If I were you, I'd give him tripod feet for more balance and bigger forearm guns so he doesn't look like an amputee with those heavy shoulders.
Think about the weight distribution and functionality more, this thing would be very immobile (thick waist) and easy to tip over, not really a battle material.

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Trying to get back into this after a long while...
what isn't working with this? what should I see to improve?

>>2714736
Shadows aren't black, they are blue, black is seldomly seen irl especially in nature. Look into painting atmosphere, color temperature and going outside and painting from real life. Your values are very messy as well. Good luck.

>>2714736
Oh and if you're painting from photo references, learning about exposure is important, too.

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I really want to learn how to paint, but I just don't get it. how do I avoid to make the same mistakes over and over again? how do I put down what I understand in theory? for example, I know that a bright/dark tone can make the surface look plastic, but I don't find the right tones to put next to each other. it is frustrating as hell.

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finally. I was waiting for the new thread.
doodling around but I actually need a good animation software for my new windows machine : (

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what the fuck where are all the /tradfags/ ? this shit depresses me.

>>2714784
>how do I avoid to make the same mistakes over and over again?

just focus only 1 problem at a time and give yourself some time to figure out what's really going on with the subject.

grandmasters' secret is that they know what's "the end product" should look like in their head. so they are just like a printer. every brush stroke has a purpose when a master paint something. so they see what's really happening when they look at the model in front of them.

to achieve that kind of familiarity they also have some kind of workflow they mostly follow. like they practice the gesture, figure, pose, composition first with charcoal. when they think they observed enough and see how the shapes are then they start painting.

it takes many years of practice and a lot of knowledge. you have to know what you are looking at and be confident. so try to use a workflow and don't rush anything. take your time. never do it half assed. always check if it's the right line in the right place.

good luck, have fun.

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I dunno some weird shit I drew at 3am

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this is some rat I drew and colored in on gimp

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latley I've been coloring doodles in and shit on gimp lol I love the trashy simple look to it

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this is another rat...although after I drew it I realized he kind of looks like Evil the Cat...Oh well....Do people under 20 know about earth worm jim??

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another recent doodle for halloween n' shit

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another recent one I am proud of

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warm up sketches before doing some amination

>>2714883
thank you

>>2714910
evil shite!!!excellent

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About 50 minutes in. Taking a break so I can sleep before work

>>2714986
Not a bad start, but you should start looking for some reference images to get more interesting shapes and value organizations.

>>2714693
ty my dude, ima get to work

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Just fuck me up pham, I need it.

>>2715033
i would fuck that chubby bitch

>>2714739
thanks.
black was here because of a too brutal level adjustment to fix the values. didn't used refs though, probably should.

>>2714986
that's really really cool...

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How do I make her not look like a tranny?
Anything I can do better on it?

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How do I make the hair on the left side of her face actually look like its covering part of her face? pls n ty

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>>2715107
Same guy here, tried to make her more feminine. Anything?

>>2715107
eyes too close/droopy and unattractive, nose too big, lips too small/thin, neck too thick and the hair looks ded. Attractive proportions and etc come with practice, find out what you find attractive and why, then copy it.

>>2715120
How about making it cover a part of her face?

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>>2715107
The nose and mouth are not placed correctly on the forms of the head, so first correct that. To make it more feminine play up feminine qualities. Usually this means things like big lips and eyes, a small nose, defined eyebrows and eyelashes, a narrow face and chin, a thin neck etc.

>>2715128
>i was this bad all along

fuck

>>2715132
Thanks senpai

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>>2714493
Thanks anon. However I was just making stuff up with her arm and head, trying to find something appealing.

I bought some markers out of curiosity but I feel I should have spend a bit more and getter better ones, these collect a lot of the graphite and smear it in very unappealing ways, they also transfer too much in the below pages

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one of my first nudes made from a model

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finished this one, don't really like how the hair turned out though.

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Ive been trying to nail the western comic look for so long but i just feel stuck... like when you can tell someone isnt familiar with a style but tries to draw it anyway. Not sure how to move forward. Ive been reading the Wizard books and thats helped but what am i missing? Fundamentals? Gotta be right?

Could use some outside perspective. Been trying to get good at inking, but why ink trash.
Arm is fucked, i know.

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Shin Godzilla drawn on my ipad with procreate.

>>2715302
Also, cant resize on my tablet, sorry.

>>2715303
looks like he's saying "Heeeeeeey buddy"

>>2715247
The hair is fine, the rest is great though. GG

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I quickly roughed out a lot of the effects I'll add later just to see how it might look. Stil not sure what I'm going to do in place of/change about that clock/calendar thing in the bottom right

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how should i fix this head/face?

>>2715361
NOICE
Got a blog mate?

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how far would you push this? what can I do to reach epic standards.

i hate how i get so comfy.

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>>2715473

maybe something like this?

>>2715488
ya that's a good point. have light behind the try will make it more cinematic.

>>2714896

my eyes burned.

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>>2715473
>each leaf is the size of a city block
>leaves in foreground are 1 pixel while leaves on tree kilometers away are each a full brushstroke
>roots are not shrinking in size enough as they recede in space
>sunny without cast shadows on the landscape

If you want epic tree scale keep your shapes well organized and get the drawing and values very accurate, and use know scale elements more effectively. In this case getting the normal sized trees on the ground to be more worked out, getting the mountains to look like full mountains and just boulders, and maybe getting some clouds around and in front of the tree. I've attached a paintign of a giant tree from Mullins which works largely because all those waterfalls and the mist they throw up at the bottom are some carefully handled.

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Picard here. Gonna post a few pics I messed around with. This one was a lot of fun. It allowed me an anatomy study and I made it as a spell page.

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Picard. This is a basic foot soldier dwarf.

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This is a closeup of the foot soldier

Sorry the shit came out sideways

>>2715247
Just curious, how long did this take?

>>2715578
fuck that's awesome. damn he gets it down,even with such a rough style. it holds the the same deep feeling of any fully rendered fantasy landscape.

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quick request from /tg/

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Something about the guy I can't wrap my head around, his proportions/pose looks wrong so I've been avoiding him

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>>2715599
Sorry bud but from a technical standpoint this is beginner tier. Which is what the beginner thread is for. Do you have something specific you'd like critiqued? Because unfortunately this is at a quality level where there is no way to give advice that isn't as broad as, "practice anatomy along with everything else".

BUT, really, keep drawing and keep posting here (not here though, in the /beg/ thread.)

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Trying to draw some sort of badger.
I like how the ears and fur on the sides are, but I'm uneasy about the rest...

Just wondering what you guys think.

People are born with a style. Depending on how much work they put into their art will depict the out come of that style. So no matter how hard you strive to be great, you could turn out to have an impressionistic style that lacks fine art realism because your hand is shaky.

I feel like impressionists are a breed. Do I make sense?

>>2715592
>>2715597
>>2715599

good lord. give us a warning next time.fucking brutal.

>>2714896
I love your work so much please post some more

>>2714896
this makes me hate you

>>2715361
this is great

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nice girl?

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WHAT DO I NEED TO BE ABLE TO DRAW LIKE THIS HELP

I'M A COMPLETE BEGINNER I WANT TO DRAW SEXY ANIME GIRLS I CAN GET BONERS TO

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Finally done, I took on board the paintover guy's advice, but though it was just a bit extreme in contrast, think it turned out ok.

>>2715738
Getting a boner to your own drawing is like getting a boner to your own child.

>>2715738
learn how to trace frames from anime

>>2714896
This looks like it should be a Primus album cover.

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>>2715124
is that him

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Before I go any further on this doodle hows the anatomy look? I rarely try anything with "dynamic" poses since I always feel like I fuck up the foreshortening of limbs, (that and I always think my dynamic poses end up looking silly), so I need to get more practice on it.

It's supposed to be built like a tall, lanky human with an obviously larger than normal clawed hand and barely larger than normal feet.

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it's taking foreverrr

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incomplete I think

>>2715853
The blues in the shadow of the boat look too intense, but I'm really loving those color combinations otherwise.

Especially on the whale and the wave, they both look delicious.

>>2715873
Yeah, I working my way now from left to right, will defo change the boat then. Thanks anon

>>2715659
That's pretty cool, I really like the blue and white patterned cloth and the overall design (except the bad head looks a bit silly). What references did you use?

In terms of painting it looks really unfinished/sloppy because of the edges. If you painted with a more opaque brush so you don't get the transparent overlaps and soft edges everywhere it would look much more finished and nice.

>>2714417
Why?

>>2715356
gg wp.

>>2715608
easily 2/3h+, this was my second study, and first rendering in color. to be honest i'm too attached to details even though I would like to do something as loose and relaxed as >>2714572 i definitely can't yet, don't have enough experience in painting and manga studio brushes suck.

>>2715698
>People are born with a style
>I feel like impressionists are a breed

you're like a 19th century eugenicist but for art
what's your agenda

>>2715746
It is.
But its a good feeling

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>>2714572
fucking inspiring!


pic is some sketches i did

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>>2715944
Too many value changes anon. Right now her skin looks almost like metal because it jumps from strong highlights to strong shadows. When painting matter surfaces try to keep the value changes minimal when a plane turns.

>>2715926
Not him, but you can distinctly tell if an artist leans left or right from their art, much as you can tell female art from a man's or a young person's work from an old person.

>>2715994
>much as you can tell female art from a man's or a young person's work from an old person
So basically not at all

>>2716002
Well I shouldn't expect the Loomis copying dullards of /ic/ to have that much visual nuance.

As an anon however, surely you can tell quite a bit about a poster from the way they write? It's no different with art.

>>2716012
Gender is tough to tell through art. Plenty of men draw in "feminine" styles and plenty of women draw in "masculine" styles. I guess you can usually tell the ballpark age of someone based on subject matter and skill level, but again this isn't really set in stone.

>>2716019
>plenty of women draw in "masculine" styles

I can barely think of any.

>>2716043
right, but it's generally not that art to find male artists with feminine styles, in all art forms.

>>2716047
*hard

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>>2715684
I know the eyes and mouth will need to be completely redrawn at least so I erased them for now. Assistance would be greatly appreciated. I want to go for a bit of a savage, animalistic feel rather than cartoony but I still want it to be a simple drawing.

>>2715887

Thanks, it was referenced from a request thread on /tg/, so I had the design laid out for me more or less. I agree the edges are sloppy, but I only had an hour last night before I went to sleep. Good idea on the opaque brush though.

>>2715361
Damn, just seeing this turned my day around, for the better, great job. I hope I can paint like you some day.

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Wolf Knight

>>2716104
It looks more like a puppy than a wolf, and the speculars on it make no sense.. Also post a smaller pic next time.

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Starting tons of new ones, also reworking older.

1/2
This needs hard edges and more work on bg, but going well.

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2/2
Few details and this is done. Had some kind of brainfart and darker strokes on fg looks like writing.

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Figure drawing

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>>2716104
>png
>1.94 MB
>1055x1043
>For a sketch
Do you hate that much phone posters and thirworlders?

>>2716136
>>2716139
Bretty gud, are these plein air? I can see you apply paint very thinly.

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>>2715738
>>>/sticky/loomis

>>2716143
proportions are not perfect -just watch the leg, but rendering is fantastic, it looks digital as the thumb is so glowing... and it's even more impressive in full size, great craftsmanship.

>>2716165
Nope, just using partially refs I took. I'm always working quite thin, now I've been pushing more medium to it, so it would even cover the canvas.

>>2715302
Pls respond

>>2716143
hair doesn't read well, try breaking it up into smaller masses, or leave it as a single form.

Watch out for the legs blending into one another

Draw the feet, they help ground the figure and are very important to the entire image

don't be afraid to throw in darker occlusion shadows

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Sorry about the filesize on my earlier post, it won't let me delete the other one but I made some more

>>2716200
honestly looks pretty good. maybe one thing to keep in mind is to block out shadows not just as they "should" appear, but for graphic intent. a big part of comic books is using light and dark very intentionally as compositional elements.

I would say you're well on your way, just keep practicing and referencing comic book arists you like and you'll get there.

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struggling to draw backgrounds and adding some color without too much shading. Keeping things simple...

I'm failing....

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im still trying to get my head around color temperature. my color range feels very restricted/artificial. if anyone has any advice on that and also shadow coloration, i'd appreciate it.

>>2716204
Thanks for the feedback friendo.

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Hey! Some critique please? Just started drawing with colors.

>>2716202
I like these. Animal Crossing + some dragon dungeon game

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im making stickers

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>>2716211
Right now the lighting in your image is not really that clear, like the sky and clouds imply a sunny partly cloudy day, but the landscape doesn't show this.

I tried showing a couple quick ways to approach it, one a sunny day, and the other a grey overcast day.

Direct sunlight is warm so the colours should be shifted from the local colour slightly warmer and more saturated. The shadows on sunny days depend on the materials the the environment, but typically they are cool since the blue sky fills them in with ambient light. There are exceptions though like if there's warm bounce light off the ground.

With overcast days thing are more subtle since the light from the sun is diffused by the entire sky so there's only soft faint shadows and sometimes none at all really. Planes that face the sky will be a little bit brighter though and usually will be slight cooler than planes that are facing down which will be a bit warmer, but it can be somewhat subtle.

My overpaints are quick and shitty to just get the idea across, but if you want to do it properly you should find some good reference that has the colours and lighting situation you want, then apply it to your scene.

>>2714572
You'll be happy in the morning, anon... cause there was no reason to regret posting this, looks great!

>>2715361
Digging the colors here!

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page from a comic im trying to make.I used acrylics

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heres a night painting i just finished

>>2716136
mix your own blacks. darks have temperatures. dont use the black paint unless its for an outline to make it more graphic.

>>2716256
Thanks, appreciate the feedback!

>>2716389
The little lines of light you put around the light sources is pretty odd. I think it sort of works on the lamp, but when you do it on the moon as well it really is distracting and flattens the image and makes the moon look like it is on the same plane as the lamp.

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>>2716202
>sorry
too little too late.
I already called the police.

>>2714896
gave me a headache

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Painting from imagination without reference, any tips on taking it further would be appreciated. Thinking about adding somefiguires in.

>>2715033
way too dark, I can barely see shit and my brightness is maxed

>>2715732
You should try looking at your drawings mirrored. It'll help you see discrepancies on either side of the figure. Among the first things I noticed was that the left side of her face is wider than her right. Thick neck, scratchy linework.. I like the emotion though.

>>2716056
resize pic pls

>>2716217
Keep going, the head looks very good, what a weird way of doing this though.

>>2715698
no, this is some ligameme retarded kind of thought

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>>2716424
more luminescence?
the liquid looks really nice but leaves most of the background unreadable, some additional light sources would help a lot

I think you're unsure about the shapes in the background and your instinct is to leave them dark

>>2716217
lookin gud
Is kind of hard to tell where is the light source, it may just be me tho.

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Still trying to get used to painting, how does this look so far?

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>>2716527
I did a little paintover showing a few things. I think having a softer quality to hair is important for it to look like hair. I know Mucha did those hard spaghetti strands but he was a master and is a sort of special case because his design sense made up for the strange way to show hair. In general keep it soft.

Also you are shading hair the wrong way. Basically because of the fact it is made up of tens of thousands of little strands means it reacts to light differently so the highlights go across the forms.

Lastly her neck is bent at an impossible or at least very uncomfortable angle, so to have her peacefully sleeping I moved her body.

>>2716543
Don't use the dodge tool or layer effects or whatever it is that is creating your lights. You are blowing out your values, and can get a more effective lighting if you keep the values under control more.

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>>2716438

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What's the worst thing about this?
Can I get a red-line?

I'm guessing it's the placement of the abdominal muscles/crotch.

Also, I haven't studied how drapery works. That should be apparent though.

>>2716596
Don't bother doing these, it's a waste of time.

Study the anatomical forms for the limbs and torso. You're making up too much to learn anything from doing these, and it'll turn into habits that you'll incorporate into other drawings.

>>2716600
Thanks. I'm glad you've noticed my lack of form knowledge. I've been studying from peck's anatomy book.

I mainly do these as a way to find out what I really don't know.

I guess that means it's time to supplement that book with muscle form from other teachers.

>>2716606
Just focus on learning insertions and the shapes the muscle takes from moderate to extreme poses.

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>>2716558

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ugh i wish i could paint

>>2716678
You should learn how to draw first.

>>2716689
Somehow i knew someone was going to say this, I was asking for it. But yeah ok then i guess thats what ill do

>>2716691
You're no master, and you shouldn't be satiated with the current level you're at.

>>2716695
Never said i was. Youre trying to talk down someone who already knows theyre absolute trash friend

I was going to post something but then it turned out too shitty to even bother.

>>2714514
I like it. The architectural style is immediately distinguishable, and it looks imposing set upon the hill. The encampment in the foreground gives it depth too, and has a distinct look.

>>2714604
Looks good, but a little lopsided somehow. The chin?

>>2714729
Not sure about her elbow, but everything else looks right.

>>2714742
Really expressive! The shading is the most interesting part to me.

>>2714814
Nice expressive style, especially if you're doing animation. Feels a little weak around the joints, though.

>>2716678
Just get some reference then. Sure the drawing has some mistakes in it but it's not as bad as >>2716689 is implying it is. Rather than wishing you could paint, actually paint. If you don't have the knowledge to do this from your head then either find a photo that is similar or take a photo of yourself.

>>2716700
Other guy is being weird
All I can say is to study everything about color.
Look at photographs, paintings, real life and try to objectively wee what colors compose the scene. This is just like drawing as an absolute beginner. Your brain simplifies and skims over what you see, but fills in the gaps itself, so you still think you are getting all the information.

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made a watercolor from a manga i am reading.

>>2716701
>Looks good, but a little lopsided somehow. The chin?

Thanks, I see it now that you mention it, kek.

>turned out too shitty to even bother.

Reminds me of what Craig Mullins says, "art is 90% making mistakes."

>>2714742
Really lively, great job.

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Just working on character design

>>2716728
Well done! Some areas are a bit dull or overworked (like the bust area), but it looks like you learned some things from this.
The head looks nice. Some whites are preserved and the layers are distinct.

I would like to see you try painting still lives or something of your own creation. Keep painting!

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something I did for a really big famous game.

>>2716767
Is that game No Man's Sky?

>>2716767
Age of empires?

>>2716774
kekerino

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i d e a

>>2714814

>>2716701

ty. I'm especially into animation and as you'd notice I somehow tried to imitate ghibli's style. I have a long way ahead of me.

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character design stuff 1/2

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>>2716885
2/2,
some refinement orthographic views, keen to get some free time to render these

>>2716885
Juicy

>>2716710
I like that face , mang, can't wait to see it painted, judging by the surface you drew on.

>>2716678
You're probably working too much from imagination and if you're working from reference, you are most likely painting what you think is there rather than what truly is there. I recommend watching some Watts videos and trying to replicate his technique. Don't worry, drawing is painting and painting is drawing. You should always have a reference or better yet multiple references when you aren't comfortable. A good method to start is by sketching the subject then mapping out your values. You should watch ctrl paint videos and practice maybe Peter Han's dynamic sketching on pencil and paper to improve your lines. Learn to use masks so that your colors won't bleed out of the lines. Colors are secondary to values and your values are rough. Your brushstrokes are not pleasing to the eye and they do not fit a woman. For rendering I recommend utilizing both hard and soft brushes. Values are the most important part of a painting, to know values you need to learn how to light things, look up introduction to lighting by blender guru on youtube. I recommend learning to paint in grayscale before even thinking about color, some people can pull it off though, but I'd rather add the color later on. Good luck, anon.

>>2716812
I like it, kinda reminds me of the wall from LOST.

Visually, having an electric blue glow all over the picture is kinda jarring, though. Maybe there could be a way to show the effect while being more subtle?

Dunno why the posts don't follow perspective, either.

>>2716888
Why is your digital stuff so stiff?

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>>2716959
I did that pretty quickly just to flesh it out a little so I have an idea of what i want to draw in 3D space. It helps me at least draw something more consistently/ thoughtfully.

>>2716981
I see your work all the time, but I hate seeing that it's always digital. I really think you would benefit from a move to traditional media, so get some fucking oil paints.

>>2716606
try anatomy for the sculptor as well, cross ref from all anatomy books and have fun with it.

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Some sketches. I've been commissioned to do a large abstract painting (36"x48") but I haven't really done much abstraction before. I'm guessing they want it to match their living room or some shit, which is mostly off-whites and browns, and I'm wondering which of these I should take further to a final. /ic/ opinions?

>>2716992
ass soon as possible, i'm longing for that too

>>2716994
You should always number or letter each thumbnail when presenting sketches so that people can refer easily to specific ones.

I like the second image in row 1, the third image in row 2, and the first image in row 4.

>>2717001
Thanks, but can you explain why you like them? What makes them more successful than the others?

>>2716994
I'm not usually a fan of abstract art, but these look really nice and much better than the Pollock wannabes I see in galleries

>>2717006
I'm not very good at saying why I like or don't like abstract stuff, it tends to be largely a gut feeling. But uhm, I don't like your 4th image first row (bamboo) or 3rd image 4th row (rock) because they look to naturalistic and not abstracted enough, so they just look like a bad painting of a boring subject. Some of the other images like the 2nd image in the 2nd row, or the 1st image in the 3rd row looks like you took MS paint and scribbled some lines they took the paint bucket to each section so I don't like them much. Others don't feel all that designed to me, like the colours are not that nice and the shapes and compositions are a bit dull, like the first image in the first row. Something like the first image in the second row could be neat in oil paint if there was some interesting subtle hue or texture variations within each shape, but as a digital thing it look kind of plain and I worry that the green looks sort of like a sickly grey that won't look good in a room.

>>2716551
Okay thanks anon, I will keep that in mind. I was really gunning for that composition and the spaghetti hair so Ill have to figure out something else haha.

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>>2716921
ty for the tips. I definitely find working in greyscale easier

>>2717012
>bad painting of a boring subject
>scribbled some lines they took the paint bucket to each section
>don't feel all that designed
95% of paintings you'll see in high-horse galleries desu

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>>2714814

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I don't know how values and edges work

>>2717059
They all work to give priority to something.

Sharp edges draw attention, while soft edges don't.

For values, high contrast draws attention, while low contrast doesn't.

You use these things to make the important parts of an illustration pop more than the unimportant parts.

I recommend doing something with the background, perhaps pushing it to be a lot darker (at the very least). This will help the figures pop more, because they will be contrasted against the background.

>>2717041
Yup, and I don't like 95% of the art in those galleries. The 5% I do like makes it all worth it though.

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advice on where to take it? Needs alot more contrast in a few places to create interest and so on, but i'm kind of stuck when it comes to where to take the piece in its entirety, cause i'm getting bored with it and how it looks. Needs more juice in a way.

>>2717146
And it's ofcourse not finished when it comes to rendering and so on.

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need help with her. I think her thigh is too big and the same with her hand, anyone sees more mistakes? thanks

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first time using oils. Im not sure where to go with it, i was thinking of a wash on the background of paynes grey and leaving the other hand negative space wood grain. But im not sure. Input would be grateful

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Critique on this pen drawing? I'm just learning how to do texture and value with pen so advice there especially would be really helpful

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a quick medieval enviroment i made

>>2717043
Ignore that idiot that said you had a "expressive style" and work on gesture drawings and perspective so your shit isn't so stiff and awful looking.

>>2717146
dam nigga
What kind of brush are you using? It looks good, I really like the loose oil painting brush strokes.
Maybe you don't know where to take it because it might not need to be taken much farther, I would keep a lot of it loose and "vignetted" but I do think there needs to be a little bit more rendering probably around his mouth or maybe the shoulder closest to us to give us just a little bit more of a clue of what or who he is. Keeping it vague in other places really will help it because usually tlhings are creepier to us that are harder to see and understand.

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>>2717146
Pretty cool man, I couldn't help but doodle on top a bit. I might have made some things worse or changed them just on taste, but whatever, hope you don't mind.

A couple thoughts:
-all those soft edges are completely blown out, and while I get that it's a bit of a popular thing these days and can create some nice atmospheric things, it seems like it is largely coming from a lack of knowledge rather than a stylistic choice. Like to me it looks like wherever you had trouble painting an area you jsut said "I'll just smudge it a bit and it looks artistic now!". Or even worse doing it at random. This can really slow down how fast you learn if you avoid things or hide them in soft edges. The far side of his face is misdrawn on yours but it's all soft and blurred so you didn't notice.
-why is the strongest highlight on the top of his skull? I painted most of his skin fairly matte so that when I put the speculars in his teeth and eyes it really pops and looks shiny and creepy
-the design is a bit boring, so maybe try pushing some things further. I gave my did more of a hunched posture and a turkey giblet sort of neck, and some loose strands of hair plus a generic shitty claw hand (might have been a bad idea on that last one).
-look for ways to add variety, like his cranium is a big boring ball shape, so maybe some stray hairs, some veins, some more planar parts of the skull or something can break it up a bit, same with maybe the folds on his neck can have different sizes and directions slightly. I also added in some of his spine and scapulas on his back, but if you want a more beefy body that's fine too.

>>2716752
I had the idea for a character that looked just like that.
Now ill have the image of your character in my head when I draw him. Dammit anon.

>>2717146
luv it, maybe work some more on shoulder and mouth

>>2717198
you ruined it desu

>>2717029
Good work, man. Was your last painting based on Bjork btw? Looks a little like her.

>>2717198
Def dont want to turn it into a generic creature design, and it's not supposed to be creepy, more unnerving and offputting. The blown out edges are done completely on purpose, it's not a substitute for knowledge, but maybe i can tone it down a bit. Thanks for the feedback dude, appreciate it.

>>2717238
Thanks man. It's overall far from finished though, so that is already being taken care of.

>>2717186
Thank you! I'm not using any special brushes, but what i do that alot of people don't do, is that i use the smudgetool in alot of different ways. Experiment with that if you need some expressive and interesting edgeresults.

>>2717146
I like the surfaces a lot, awesome job.

>>2716710
the mouth juts too far to the right

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i painted otacon please critique me

>>2714415
Do you never just stop and think about how you have not progressed in the last 2 years or is your autism in the way?

>>2717371
He's getting close to where van Gogh left off. He's doing an amazing job.

>>2717384
>He's getting close to where van Gogh left off
Thanks anon, you gave me a good laugh

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I'm a newbie in many aspects of this drawing. Cloth folds, weaponry, ballistic vests and heavy clothing, and scarves/hats.

Meant to be the Recon from Battlefield 4, with the SR338.

>>2716389
look who's talking. How about you use colour in manner that it suits 3d space? You have three light sources and nearly no shadows on foreground - even the only ones are misaligned and dull.

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>>2715865
instead of finishing this one I just kid of made a different one

>>2717371
Hes stuck in a MUH STYLE feedback loop :(
Hes confusing confident strokes with just pushing really hard down on your pencil and then plebs go "ah-buh-buh-buuurhhhuub-b-b-blog??1?" and send him two steps backwards

>>2717326
Value check. The hard black on the right needs to be repeated on the left side as well as in the eyes and folds of the hair

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Here's a bullshit piece of art I'm going to sell prints of on etsy or some shit and make a mint off of. There's plenty of money to be had off of fandom prints. Even awful ones, stupid young fangirls eat that shit up. This will be a partner print to a Kirk.

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Gonna render this sketch, I'm going for the level 3 top gear and lvl 40 glass leg aesthetic

>>2717489
ooh bitch that nose

>>2717525
Is her face meant to be that tiny or did you forget to zoom out? Also the design on her torso looks like a smiling clown face, so if that's not intentional I would change it.

>>2717402
Read the sticky, take it to the beginner's thread...

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this was a mistake, but a 1000 mistakes for 1 success amirite?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!1!!111`11////

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I am big weenus hehehe

>>2717557
Shit, wrong thread, my bad.

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How do I make these boobs look more like they are actually moving, any crit much appreciated

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>>2717565
ill stop touching it here. i learned how crappy my tones are once i make it black and white in photoshop.

>>2717384
id argue im just about there too. by this time next year i ought to be there.

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>>2717633
You need bigger boobs for them to be moving about a lot. I think too the direction/placement of the nipple is pretty important for this.

The problem with painting boobs that are flapping about though is it tends to look just like a bad boob job, so usually it is better to avoid altogether. If you're keen on the idea though I tried my hand at it.

>>2717642
preciate it my dude

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Characters I'm doing for a personal design project. Trying to show a little personality in my lineup.

>>2717183

oh. I am working on gesture, expressions, anatomy one at a time. I'm also trying to get used to drawing faster.

These I share, I draw and color them. when I'm bored with what I'm doing at the time. I'll also try to be mindful about the "stiffness" thank you too.

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>>2717642
this better? just did smaller tits and some other stuff

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am i on the right track? I still have a lot of rendering to go

>>2717660
I get a troy and abed feel from the two dudes on the left
Pretty nice work

>>2717672
Perspective on the forward leg is way off. Define your horizon, and on a separate layer redraw the whole figure using only boxes and cylinders. Use that as a guide for fixing that leg.

Either that or shoot/find some references, again being mindful of your horizon. You could even build a crude maquette in clay or 3D, but again be mindful of the lens needed and the eyeline.

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im trying to sketch a npc for a dnd session but i cant get it right, what do i do? will post reference

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>>2717819
refrence

>>2717410
u got a fan already

>>2717660
would like to punch them in their faces, specially the idiot doing a selfie with an anarchist t-shirt-whats the story? is bullshit

>>2717819
Notice how the chin and jaw is slimmer on your reference, it is closer to a v shape, but your drawing is closer to a u. I recommend you take this into Photoshop and flip your drawing horizontally and you'll see your mistakes you will especially see how unbalanced your drawing is, it's meatier on one side. Don't sweat it though, it's just a sketch and you can really get away with messing up on creatures, unlike with humans.

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>>2717660
That's really progressive there anon

>>2717660

A very (((Diverse))) cast

>>2717760
I genuinely like it. Keep going

>>2717828
>would like to punch them in their faces
Glad I'm not the only one who immediately thought that. They're well drawn but come across as incredibly pandering and design-by-committee and like the type of people I wouldn't want to spend 5 minutes with in real life. It's sort of like what some old guy thinks teens are like these days and only picks up on the worst superficial qualities because he's old and out of touch.

>>2718018
Agree

>>2717660
>DISNEY PLEASE EMPLOY ME
If only your art style were as unique special snowflake and diverse as your characters lmao

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Don't think i'll do more with this. I didn't plan anything out before i started and it turned into a boring piece of shit because of that.

>>2717660
>spic, chink, white, halfnigger, nigger
Where is the Jew? This image is racist and antisemitic.

>>2717828
>>2718001
>>2718006
>>2718017
>>2718054
>>2718067

A little bummed now, I don't want to start shit over race.

>>2717760
Figure out where you want to put your saturated tones, since it pulls focus. I'm not really into framing circle with another circle, and I bet you shouldn't too. It creates horrible force and makes everything unbalanced. But keep working on it, I'll bet it turns out great.

>>2717660
Like this very much and would like to see more of your stuff.

Very Disney.. for better or for worse, I guess. Agree with what the other anons said, it's generic and too tumblr-diverse. The piece as a whole is cool, annoying that your main character is the generic white guy. Claims diversity, but hey, white is in the middle anyway always! Although honestly I couldn't care less, I say this only because your piece says this.

That aside, looking at the art - your main dude looks like that guy from Kingdom Hearts 2. It literally looks like both his design and colors, and green-shirt guy is SO fucking stiff and awkward and that hand looks like it's hidden on purpose. All of the other character got cool poses/gesture, but it seemed like you didn't know what you were doing with the green guy.

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>>2718170
Thank you for the feedback.

I think people would respond better to the characters if they knew their purposes, and then the races would make sense too. I live in a very diverse city (San Francisco), and I'm pulling inspiration from people I see every day, not doing this to be some kind of tumblr SJW.

The main dude too, I know looks plain but he has super powers and wears a suit that makes him look more unique. The design of the suit is not done yet, I realize it still has a lot of design and functionality to figure out.

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Crits? Am I done?

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>>2718233
I think it's way too dark. It's just a character standing there and not an illustration, so presumably you want the design to actually be shown, but you hid it all in darkness. Even in an illustration you don't want a dark object on a dark background with no clarity to it at all.

I put a middle grey value as background instead so now we can actually appreciate the design more, which is actually kind of neat. I also added a sword because he looked odd without a weapon. He was off balance before too (you probably didn't notice because of how dark everything was!) so I corrected his stance.

>>2718247
Working on it right now, thanks for the input

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>>2717637
here is the corrected one from last night. gonna post a movie study too. have a couple of questions about my colors

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>>2718300
my photographer friend looked at my colors and said they were too bland and fell in the middle in terms of 'feeling.' I think he's right, but I don't really get the full grasp of where he comes from. I just know that I am a huge pussy when it comes to going deeper, with more contrast. Anyone offer any advice?

>>2714415
I am convinced threads get less replies when comfortis pencil drawings are the OP image. Not to say they're not good, but we need color.

>>2718330

>Not to say they're not good

why?

>>2718330
There's been nearly 300 replies in 3 days, that's pretty normal is it not?

>>2717660
Generic and every character has the same facial structure.

>>2718339
That's the point

>>2718340
why on earth would you want that

>>2718343
>why would you not want to appeal to the mass audience and be consistent in your artwork
Gee, anon, I wonder why

You guys are giving that cartoon character line up a lot of shit.

>>2718351
If it's too generic then it won't appeal to anyone though. Better to focus on what you find interesting and trust that others do too imo, not only will it have better results it will be more fulfilling.

>>2718356
Because it's good. Bad art never gets attention.

>>2718363
I don't think people are hating it because of it's good. It's obviously pretty well drawn. The problem is the subject matter, which is obviously not going to appeal to the people who go on 4chan.

>>2718366
But will it appeal to a animation studio? I assume that's the intention.

>>2718368
Probably not because it's so generic and lacking in personality. There's lots of people who can draw well, so if you want to stand out you need to be able to bring something new to the table, which is exactly the opposite of what he's doing.

>>2718371
>Probably not because it's so generic and lacking in personality.
Oh hey, it's you! You fuck bag. Haven't seen you in a while. How you been?

>>2718373
>asks for opinions
>gets butthurt when the opinions aren't praise

>>2718390
See. I knew it was you!

>>2714604
too narrow, facial features are too hard.

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Started this piece about 2 weeks ago. Had to take a >1 week break because my computer broke. Now that I look at it I don't think I'm even gonna finish it...

I'm at a skill level where If I'm just doing a simple study, it'll probably look pretty much like what I'm referencing and if I'm doing a simple illustration it'll probably turn out okay. Not great but good enough to get dem likes and good enough to put in my portfolio.

Has anybody else struggled with this shit? It's so fucking frustrating when you can do a simple character with a simple background but when you try to do ANYTHING that's a little more elaborate you eventually fuck up and quit.

Tl;dr. Painting is so fucking hard...

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>>2717827
nice

Here is Lord Pumkin Puke. going to redraw and do a better job on the horns and maybe change it up a bit...

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How are my colors/composition?

>>2714417
good lineweight

>>2714713
anon is right. if the atmospheric perspective is improved in the paining, particularly background, then it would add more of a grand scale look. i like where this is going

>>2715303
interesting subject anon

>>2718543
the "bird" and warrior have no chance, and the "bird" will be beheaded :(
you live in a brootal world

>>2718076
>oh NO they're discussing the elephant in the room! h-hhow horrible!!
jesus grow a spine or go back to tumblr

goddamn why do people freak out so much whenever race is acknowledged? yeah great, you want to be seen as anti-racist as possible, good for fucking you, now stop being such a bitch when people call you out for it

>>2718624
looking good anon! composition wise the focal point is framed pretty decently, however i think you should incorporate some more foreground elements. it looks a little flat right now because you have the figure at the midground and everything else pushed behind it.
its hard to say much in terms of colour at this s tage but the rendering on the balloon is a bit boring, try to have some more hue shifts and maybe some refs so you can render the form better.

>>2718543
I feel the same. In fact, I can't even get passed doing random creatures studies and applying them in a setting with an interesting composition.

>>2718305

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Treeline and sky
also some birds(crows, I think)

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working on this. gonna make the brown shape into a cathedral with the same yellow/orange light on it as the trees on the bottom right

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Work in progress for my class

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>>2719166
this came out cool. gonna call it Moonlit Cathedral

>>2717760
I LOVE this. Keep goin at it anon

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Could somebody experienced please loomis this for me, really quickly. The placement of this guy's nose makes no fucking sense to me

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>>2716888
work work work

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Crit?

>>2719528
Maybe it's because of the clothes etc, but I find the scene would work better if it was in a large room with columns, something like a church-like star planet observatory. Right now it feels a bit claustro, like she's in a closet. (and perspective of the background seems dosgy, maybe it's correct but it doesn't look like it)

colors are pretty nice.

there's a slight difference in dynamism in the piece, if you consider the clothes that just fall down, while some powerful force is sending objects flying.

>>2719552
All valid points. I recently noticed the lack of flappy fabrics, I'll try to add some. The background is a bit a skew What about her face? People always criticize me for having uncanny-valley faces, do you get a sense of that here?

>>2719566
>the background is a bit askew...
... but I think it'll be fine, maybe I'll tweak it we'll see

>>2719566
>People always criticize me for having uncanny-valley faces
Yes, and I would do it also but so many people do it that there's no need.
This face look great. A bit inexpressive, but I would assume it's because she's a pro who's been doing that all the time, so it's routine work.