Alternative Art/Stylization General

TOO EARLY TOO EARLY REEEEEEEEEEE

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need ideas for halloween

>>2698693
did you make this? God. Those are some really good cowtits. And I try to abstain from absurdly large breasts because I dont think its healthy. but wow. Just relapsed.

>>2698693
Thanks for the motivation, one day I will git gud and marry a cow-titted aryan qt

>>2698693
blog?

>>2698693
blog?

>>2698693
Blog?

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Can anyone help me out with this furry bs, please?

>>2698712
well my man you have at least 3 people on /ic/ wanting your blog. id say you can make that happen.

>>2698746
>implying that means anything at all
Oh yes, let me just put this on my resume. Not everyone gets asked for their blog on a famous anime picture board!

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DS2 sunbro coop in a nutshell.

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>>2698762
Re-size

>>2698715
>>2698729
>>2698743
>>2698746
http://kairunoburogu.tumblr.com/

>>2698801
>http://kairunoburogu.tumblr.com/
OH shit your the guy that did that turning girl with the nice ass, i loved that pic . thanks anon! i was wondering who did that pic.

>>2698801
love the way you draw eyes and paint skin

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Something I did this week.

>>2698753
you should put jelly in your resume instead :^)

>>2698693
Nice jugs! Seriously tho, they have real weight to them, always loving your skin tones too.

>>2698693
just realiced she has a man bone structure.. really wide shoulders over 3:1 head ratio, or the head is too small

>>2699080
>>>
the arms look really stiff and akward

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>>2698260
I think I could've done better, but thanks for the advice

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>>2699325
it turned out great and I'm diggin the POV, but I'm sorry to point out the swating is absurd, but as it serves a greater purpose who cares kek


< finished shit

>>2699406
I really like the fluffiness of that hair

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>>2698801
>this is what the weeb containment thread considers good

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>>2699406
Why the excessively messy brushwork on the concrete? You don't have to go quite as stylized as artists like Robh Ruppel, Neil Campbell Ross or Alberto Mielgo but you should definitely pay their approach some heed.

Your rendering isn't overly realistic so having clean textures rather than the blotchy colorised mess can only be an improvement.


Also when resizing your fucking image in photoshop you must realise that it introduces antialiasing around the corners? Duplicate the image a couple of times to remove that.

>>2699468
saved, thx

I don't totally get how to avoid antialiasing tho

>>2699485
http://www.artofscholes.com/saving-your-work-issues/

^ That, or just paste more versions of the resized image (assuming you resize > cut image, then new file with those dimensions)

>>2699467
Post your work lol bet you won't

>>2699468
>antialiasing
you've got no idea what are you talking about

>>2699525
Agreed

>>2699525
Misuse of the word?

Regardless, resizing images in photoshop doesn't keep the borders of the image intact and its something that should be fixed.

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Anyone know where to find this translated? I can't even find raw pages
It's a one volume manga by Murata on how to draw manga

>>2699585
look in the artbook thread.

>>2698762
>>2698763
do you animate?

>>2699631
blog pls

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Dunno, if anyone has any help on this, otherwise I'm giving up.

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finished up last bits of the figure to kill time but now time is up an i still have no idea how to color this lol

>>2700217
Why is it blurry? Is it because shes moving fast? I think you should go for speed lines and angled blur if you want to give the impression of speed and movement. This just looks out of focus

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>>2700217
frrt

>>2700217
>>2700254
very bad read the sticky stop symbol drawing needs loomis and so on and so forth

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Someone on /v/ wanted Callie from Splatoon as a race queen.
Redrawn her a few times, but I can't seem to get the tentacles to flow nicely with the rest of the gesture.

>>2700287
very bad read the sticky stop symbol drawing needs loomis and so on and so forth

>>2700254
>...and then she farts!

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I'm testing some sprites for a visual novel, is my art decent enough that an average weeb on steam will want to buy it, /ic/?

>>2700494
very bad read the sticky stop symbol drawing needs loomis and so on and so forth

>>2700494
No, get better before even thinking about selling anything.

>>2700254
>circa 1950s, french roller skating rink

>>2700249
it's just the brush, i'm new to making them (and also drawing really small, that sketch is at 100%), spent most of that drawing messing with brush settings/setting up playstation move controller for photoshop shortcuts

>>2700254
even with a quick messy color job like that you're still miles out past what i can do, kyle (or whoever you are haha)
danke tho, this is hella nice

>>2700350
you kno what, you're alright

>>2700500
i thought that style was more late 60's into the 70's, tho i might be way off and/or it was different in france back then, haha

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>>2700494
It's bad. What are you going to do when you need CG cut scenes and you can't deliver? Your VN will look like utter trash because you're unable to convey the visuals. Don't skip your fundies and go to the /beg/ thread.

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Somebody help me pick between left and right, my brain can't see anymore.

>>2700772
left is better for head. dont see other changes if are.

>>2700772
very bad read the sticky stop symbol drawing needs loomis and so on and so forth

>>2700772
left

the face is floating out of the head on the right

>>2700637
>style was more late 60's into the 70's
yea, i think youre right lol

>>2700779
>>2700784
Yeah, going with left. Thanks.

>>2700781
wat

>>2700494
>arms are rectangles, not even boxes
>one calf sits a foot higher than the other
>pure #ffffff white skin for noraisins
>highlight on the hair looks like readings from a seismograph
>fucked up color relationships
>fucked up hair volumes
>are those feet hooves?

Honestly it feels to me like you're a high schooler that spent a lot of time sketching but never learning fundies. That's not necessarily a bad thing, you'll have an easier time learning them with your pen mileage and you can get at a decent level within a year or so if you work hard. But right now all you could realistically hope for is a job working on one of these free EVN projects on lemma that never get finished. Selling something? No.

At least the boobs are soft-shaded and have a color-shifted shadow gradient, so the most important part looks nice.

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Playing around with an "Inventory" sort of drawing.

>>2700817
any tips on getting lines like you, dad?

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>>2700817
Blog pls, love yer design

also, what's the teeth and trigger looking thing on the handle on the sword?

>>2700820
>dad
I use the crayon tool in Paint Tool SAI for linework, not sure what to say beyond that. I do make liberal use of ctrl-z though.

>>2700817
Reminds me of vagabond when its just lineart. nice

>>2700836
>vagabond
vinland saga*

>>2699971
firez-tbr.tumblr.com

Thx <3

>>2701005
Cute, blog?

Only problem is that you didn't finish the shirt.

>>2701020
excatriate.deviantart.com

What do you mean about the shirt? The rough lines around the sides, or something else?

>>2700829
Is this your work? Mighty fine stuff.

>>2701025
thanks, been trying to work on a story in between commissions

i'm still on character design w

>>2701005
WIP? The shading on the shirt looks muddy and lacks some type of depth. Or rather that it looks like someone rubbed an eraser on her stomach. Otherwise it looks pretty interesting pose wise and the character herself.

>>2701032
Do you got a blog? I hope to see how your rendering is.

>>2701024
Like, aren't there supposed to be buttons down the middle or something?

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>>2701040
elakan.tumblr.com
phanaxial.deviantart.com

most of my rendered stuff is p old, latest one was a commission http://gentranum.deviantart.com/art/Anna-s-Collection-Flexibility-615406009

i'm working on a newer one in pic related but i just got through doing sketch commissions due to financial emergencies

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>>2701037
I'm confused by your description. Is this any better? Because if not I don't really know.

>>2701042
Oh no, it's a polo, not a button-down shirt.

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>>2701063
It's hard to explain but I'll show you. Don't take this as an insult I just think the shading needs to be more defined around her breast area.

>>2701063
Really nice colors. Where the values get darker its really pleasing. What's your method?

>>2701082
>redraws giving useful pointers
>"don't take this as an insult"
man lol you're fine, this is actually appreciated. You're right I wasn't thinking much by shading the shirt, and was missing a few shadow zones that you've caught as well, thanks. Will add those in the final revision.

>>2701083
Paint with flats that work well together. Shadows > shift hue towards cooler tones. Lighter areas> shift hue towards warmer tones.

That's the general rule, it's a pretty common coloring technique I see a lot with anime artists, if you google "kawacy coloring tutorial" he did a comparison that illustrates it.

>>2701063 cool

>>2701082

i really like your coloring style

>>2700831
k, thanks mom

>>2701090
No problem anon. I've actually just started looking into shading and contrast shadows so I'm no expert. Keep up the good work.

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>>2698261
>my art made it in the op
is this the beginning of my era

>>2701427
very bad read the sticky stop symbol drawing needs loomis and so on and so forth

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>>2701434

>>2701434
kek

>>2698744
looks good

>>2699406
looks good

>>2700815
that hit close to home and hit hard, thanks anon.

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>>2700494

I know I'm absolutely turd polishing at this point, but I felt a need to at least finish the line art. Thanks for the wake-up call guys, now I'm off to drawabox and /beg/.

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just kidding it's actually done now

>>2701525
very VERY bad read the sticky stop symbol drawing needs loomis and so on and so forth

>>2701528

thank you anon i love you

>>2701528
le meme loomis man, what does it mean to be ignored by you?
not even worth your pasta, or just too mediocre?

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>>2701517

>>2701532
hahahahaaha
Ow man the memes
My sides are in orbit
Kek
Loomis, amirite?
Not gonna make it XD

>>2701525
The pose is a bit stiff and there's some proportion-issues. You should sketch out the body roughly first and then put clothes and gadgets on it. But overall, I like it. Neat cute style, fun looking character and pleasing colors.

>>2701543
are you okay?

>>2701517
I mean, the lineart didn't magically get godlike but I do feel the need to point out for anon some things did get better, namely the feet and flow of the torso (maybe? idk for the last one).

Leg gap makes her look more like a table than a human being tho

good luck, others have made it and so can you

>>2701547
LOL that was just mE being RaNdoom!!!!
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD ((the cake is a lie °^° ))

>>2701635
my pepe has a fefe

>>2701517
ONE FOOT IN ONE FOOT OUR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2702019
what does this mean? i always do this...

>>2702112
Can we please swap you back for whatever human was accidentally exchanged into your dimension?

>>2702193
lol

>>2702193
Lmfao

>>2702193
rofl

>>2702112
gimme th@ blog, weird guy

>>2699406
Why does the hair defy gravity?
Ayy lmaoo

>>2702438
It looks better that way for entertainment.

>>2702439
It fucking doesn't REEEEEEEEE GRAVITYYYYYYYYYY

>>2699406
niiiice anon!

>>2700494
kind of bland design

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Any c&c on this wip?
Don't know what to do with the background, since it's not the focus of the piece, and there's no so much space to flesh it out anyway.

>>2702388
nonerandomdraw dot blogspot dot com

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Tips/crits?
I'm always concerned that I'm developing a very mainstream sort of style.

>>2702847
Wat does mainstream mean? I don't see you doing any mainstream "mistakes" (i.e. tumblr nose or ilya kuvshinov samefaces) but any cartoony genre is likely to have been drawn by someone before.

If you want to develop your own style, the best thing you can do is pick whatever tricks work for you here and there, and not worry too much about doing something with a specific grand design in mind.

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any critiques would be helpful thanks

>>2702954
Kind of hard to tell what's going on in the image.

>>2702993
two monsters on a quest being led around by a arrow generated from orb in the red one's hand

>>2702954
Lots of symbol drawing, study more construction and values.

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>>2703029
??????

>>2703029
what do you mean 'symbol' drawing

>>2703051
read the sticky. symbol drawing is ic's primary meme. it's a disease that affects beginners.

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>>2698261
can anyone give me tips on drawing stuff like shortstacks and yordles?

>>2703734
bigger tiddies

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I've never drawn lewd things before. It feels so bad but so good.

I feel like I'm doing something wrong. Like on a technical level (also). I'm pretty new to digital and illustration in general. What are your guys' processes? Like in terms of layers, colors, line art, sketching etc.

Where is Bigginer-Kun? I haven't seen him post is like 3 months.

>>2704175
I've been wondering too. Did he quit

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Think I'm finished with this.

>>2704191
Are you a pro? This is way too clean.

>>2704191
blog please

>>2704191
Would you, if you had the chance, inseminate my boi-pussy? I would take your cream.

>>2704197
4 bucks a month on patreon level pro muh nigguh!

>>2704191
shadow left of nose is too dark, cutting almost.

>>2704245
Yeah, I went too dark there, at the time it seemed fine, not sure why.
>>2704197
Nope, maybe someday.
>>2704198
thdark.tumblr.com
>>2704244
4 bucks more than I had in my wallet otherwise!

>>2704263
>Nope, maybe someday.

Well, there goes my hope of ever making it.

>>2704263
What industry are you planning to get into? Animation?

>>2704175
he is in discord

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>Doodling
>Accidentally save it over ongoing commission
>Had to trace back everything from wip's sent to client

shit was more draining than the first time i lined it

>>2704263

Oh I remember you. You made the sir knight I complimented.

So I looked through your gallery and I have some advice. You have much mileage but it feels like you're stuck so I hope I can help.

First off, you're good, let yourself know this, it's critical to getting better to understand your lineart, colors, and style(generally) is on point.

What would seem to be lacking in mass is gesture and dynamic compositions. You don't seem to get out of what I'm going to suppose is a comfort zone of neutral poses and plain backgrounds., which is unfortunate because you seem to understand most the fundamentals.

Try to complete something that isn't essentially a character sheet/portrait. Stop having them look forward so much have them strike a pose, or do an action that tells a story. Like one of your images has a hulking man sitting on the bottom of the ocean surrounded by a pair of sharks, which is a good story and image, but you're lacking any fluidity or dynamic construction to the piece. None of the set pieces are doing anything and the camera angle is boring.

Even if you doing feel everythings right try to shoot for being more interesting with your angle and actions of your characters. If you do this you'll improve in pretty much no time, it's sad to see you not strive for more. People like your non fanwork stuff so you're obviously doing something right, just get out of that comfort zone and complete some shit. You'll become a pro in no time.

>>2704443

gj. Although I think her vaginas may not exactly in line with the angle of her butt, and her ribcage/torso seems rather flat.

>>2704447
you realize people sink on beds right

>>2704451

It's not really an issue with the abdomen, I understand the bed sinking in, but more the upper torso/back (It's not sinking into anything, it's elevated on the heart pillow). It seems to have less volume than the abdomen and I don't know if that's a mix of the position of the shoulders and what I can only see as an indication of the neck, but it's a weird area.

That and the butts/vagina still look off though.

None of it's extreme, it's still a good image, rather critique than just do nothing.

>>2704443
Sorry to hear about your lil' accident, I've had a similar incidents, so I know how exhausting it is... (tho not commission, but I'd saved a wip)

This is looking darn good to me, tho! The only thing that kinda irks me is the fingers of the person holding her legs... If that's meant to be a man, his fingers are really slim. And regardless of gender, the fingers doesn't appear to really grip the leg and the finger tips are kinda weird and unappealing. Just my feels.

>>2704443
shindoL is that you

>>2704460
Oh shit, i forgot to add sinkage on the pillow. Thanks man

>>2704468
No its asanagi, fuck shindol

>>2704443
very bad read the sticky stop symbol drawing needs loomis and so on and so forth

>>2704608
this means he likes it

>>2704553
>Giving a legitimate critique on /ic/ is now deemed as projecting

You're all not going to make it.

>>2704608
kek

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sketchy so far
what fits best on the character, the player hearth, a donut, gold coins or she offering tea on her foreground hand?

if anything is weird mention it thx

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squid

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>>2704715
oh boy.

>>2704715
mikufag?

>>2704756
no. its the dude who likes to draw giant lolis.

>>2704263
tdark, why dont you have a job? you're good enough start looking faggot, even in kids books you would get a decent chance.

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something feels off. time to study value.

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>>2699631

>>2705170
How much income you making firez

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>>2704668
liked your muffet sketch so i tried doing my own. :DD

>>2705230
Cute, blog?

>>2705171

I've not really got myself out there for commissions because I think I should still focus on getting decent, work much faster. I also barely have any time to draw.

Some people have insisted and I've taken their requests. Unfortunately one has missed 5 payment dates set by himself. another is making me do endless revisions and the most recent requested a landscape piece which is quite hard for me.

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How do I get better at developing interesting poses and facial expressions? How does one invent these sort of things?

>>2705485
by thinking about the story / intention behind the pose or expression. Interesting poses are usually poses where the character is doing something with a purpose. If they look boring, it's often because the character looks like they are posing for a photo shoot.

>>2705230
really amazing m8, you executed it so well, charm intensified, hands gestures are really expresive
the only flaw I spot... it's not my own next step fugg

I'll work hard on mine thx

>>2705297
I like your painting Firez but are you practicing just drawing? Your drawing ability is letting you down and I think you should keep a sketchbook, if you don't already. The giant torso and thighs and baby t rex arms look really weird.

>>2705097
blog?

>>2704668
>>2705230
>cute muffets
BLOGS?!

>>2705518
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=15574960
drawing weeb shit most of the time

>>2705535
don't take it badly, but read the sticky and start with the beg thread.

>>2705540
No problem, deleted it. Ty for not insulting me; where is the beh thread? I lurked for a while but I didn't understand how this works.

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Do I have any hope for this drawing? Or should I just trash it.

>>2705563
although the place can be pretty bad, if you stay humble and keep it work related you can get out without getting to much shit flung at you.
but sometimes you can get great help, good redlines and paintovers, so...

honestly at your level, you probably need some months of practice before posting here. start reading the sticky, find some book you want to go along and practice for a while, come here just to ask questions when there's something you don't understand, some help about achieving something, things like that.

beg thread: >>2703144

>>2705540
Found it, I'm retarded.

>>2705565
>a determined man comforts his gay lover, delirious after breaking his ankle

>>2705566
Well, at least it's months and not years.

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ingame she loves shekels so I thought coins flying around was funny, and also a cheap way to add particles/color contrast everywhere later on

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WIP

>>2705729
Really good, but I think her foreshortened arm should be a little bigger near the forearm.

>>2705764
back should be straight when doing abs BT... a girl can have a back not arched, you know.

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>>2705729
>>2705766
yeh done
basic color blocks and shadows started

>>2705954
Fucking speed of thought.

Is this your work?

>>2705963
It's a little too early to say anything, I don't really see any details.

>>2705954
I don't understand what you're asking

>>2705963
you definetly should draw more lines inside the shape to describe forms
ups >>2705969
meant to reply>>2705962

>>2705170
I like most things about this, except the hands. Get your self some refs, cause hands is def not your strong side.

>>2705771
B-but I like to show her ass.

>>2700292
shut the fuck up

>>2705565
Yeah, basically. Help, please? ;;

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>>2705502
>>2706048

Thank you guys, I tried.

>>2706561
Your elbows should be slightly above your navel, and wrists slightly below your crotch. In comparison, these arms are short af.

>>2700494
A lot of people shat on you for not getting your fundamentals right, and I agree with them, but I do like the style on this first attempt. It has that kind of mid 2000s VN charm. You're not completely far gone, but you could definitely do better with learning some basic anatomy. At least your proportions look attractive.

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>>2705230
How do I even make lines so clean like these?

can someone tell me how to set PS to make likes like that?

>>2706618
I dont use PS, I use SAI.

>>2706623
oh, sorry

Can you share your Sai settings?

>>2706625
I used the default pen when I drew that.
What did you mean by clean lines? my lines in that drawing are anything but clean.

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>>2704191

>>2706619
Wait, I remember hearing the same shit like 2-3 years ago. Did I mix up names?

>>2706561
either arm foreshortening is wrong or arm lenght is wrong


you can draw ovals over the forearm to design a beilable perspective for that shape or redraw the arm shape to fit a real arm lenght

>>2706659
Did a clown cum on his face?

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I just finished this as my half of an art trade.
What do you guys think?

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this lighting gives me epilepsy attacks
most the picture is done, i'll work on the AO from the line art and then polish it on top so it doesnt look sketchy
any feedback welcome

>>2706842
clean, otherwise no need for all that gradation nonsense in the background

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HELP.

HELP ME PLEASE.

>>2707085
Context: First time color/shade seriously. Realize I don't know how to do either.

Help.

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>>2707085
I liquified face to adjust it to a real skull, her face is lacks widith

turn everything grayscale, hide colors/rim lights to block in main shadows, keep it simple or keep it harder, your choice, play smart

draw straight lines thinking them in 3D from the light source and think where they would make tangents with the forms of the figure/objects

think where it doesn't pass it will cast a shadow instead

if you want light on her face you need another light source, bounces shouldn't work from her own chest, as it shouldn't recieve any light

before doing light, block in masses of flat color to everything, finish it then step to lighting, better complete one whole fundie task before the next, so you don't switch mindsets and stay 100% focus on one thing at a time

>>2707152
Do you have a comprehensive and simple source ala DrawBoxes where I can find this stuff?

Teach the fisher to fish after al.

And thank you very much. Really makes it much better.

I disagree a bit with the face, though. I checked the skull I used as, and eyes should belong where I had them originally.

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>>2707163
lmao
>>2707187
hmm check here http://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm

I just checked and drawabox doesn't have lessons about lighting/values and skips directly to composition damn, thought it was more complete

to eyeball where the coreshadow should be placed due to the light source location, you have to think the light source as a vanishing point

is it close? > conic
is it far? paralel lines

imagine yourself inside the picture and try to move your point of view to make her head match with the moon behind, that direction is where the light source is pushing light, where it makes a tangent, coreshadow starts (it divides light masses from dark masses), and from the core shadow the vanishing point continues until it touches the next object, as it will make a secondary core shadow (as it will cast shadow)

make a study from imagination with boxes and spheres, then do the same with the POV/perspective grid you have there and you will see things easier with accuracy

better to avoid starting to mix a lot of lighting effects from start, focus to get main fundies right

btw, your face is wrong
mouth goes to the end of the left eye, too large
nose is too far from the chin, her nose holes-jaw nose holes-eyebrows proportion is not 1:1
you can't put a 3rd eye between her current eyes, there's no enought space
she's not even looking to the right that much, her nose is far from the cheek bone
if you want animu eyes you can't expect to place them on non stylized head, they don't fit, so you put them close, and it looks bad

it really triggers me you can draw forms but still take choices to make that bad face

try drawing the eyeball globe, it would be almost touching :')
BTW!!! you might want to decide your lighting setup on the figure first and THEN deduce the light source position, instead of choosing first the light source, because you might make a blind bad choice, like the case, as nothing interesting would be lighted up

>>2707234
your reply is as worth as much as casting a magic spell on me

>>2707243
inb4 merc wip
>>2707187
here are working light sources for your unedited shadow placement

remember you can't ever make a phone do a photo with flash and make a border high contrast light with the same source, you would need secondary sources

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>>2707252
forgot

>>2707260
then it's fine :P

could be a fold, but I would make that negative triangle shae above her legs closer to her belly so the top of the leg doesn't reads short

>>2707256
too long since I got trolled on ic

>>2707275
I've not justified any of my claims behind I'm good

I've justified it on correct theory, if you have something to point to that, do so

I gave rules, not opinions, you might be too stupid and ignorant to realice that tho

>>2707289
you're still faking out a discussion without having making an argument yet, this is my last reply to you

>>2707312
This.

>>2707634
what the fuck is this

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>>2706585
>>2706619
>>2706680
Sorry guys, I don't want to litter so here it is after taking this new feedback into consideration: >>2707388

Good night

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Is it ok to be this messy?

>>2707682
Whoa, totally, yes if it looks like that. Blog? How long you been drawing? What your inspirations?

>>2707690
Well, thanks, that's relief to hear after being kicked and punched in the face for not making a clean lineart since i started.
No blog. About a year.
>What your inspirations?
Mostly series, some few artwork and this dude >>2705097
>>2707707
Yeah, that's probably the most finalized i can go for now without making it worse. I plan to get rid of lines completely someday and start working with values.

>>2707722
you shouldn't worrry at all about the sketchy state of your sketches
cleaning them up isn't about erasing
you don't have to change your mindset on the sketching phase, once you're done with it, just start all over on new layers, use as reference a clean lineart you like to take inspiration from and it will help you as a recipe about how to do cleaner lineart on top
just try

you have to 'trace' over your own previous drawing, improving it on the go, and you should make forms read more, better shapes, and so on

I wouldn't step into values before studying construction/form, because it will make values way easier to perceive, understand and modify later on

you can see artists like moxie2d who do really unfinished sketchy linearts most the time and yet manages to do great pictures, also, scaling down your work makes lineart look cleaner than it's

>>2707260
fucking noice, love the colors and everythings

>>2704715
I would invade her if you know what i mean.

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trying brighter colors!

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>>2708078
-She has 6 fingers on her left hand as her thumb is supposed to be concealed from view.

-Her legs butchered. Is she supposed to be crossing her legs? Actually that would make sense, but she isn't, but it almost looks like it.

-Broom bristles look like a bag is over it.

-the way you shaded her hair looks like rubber. You aren't thinking about material.

Most of your pictures problems is lack of rendering knowledge. Also pic related.

>>2708102
shameful dispray
already redrew the hand thanks for the critique
will continue working hard to improve !

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Going for something ambitious with this piece. Any crit on composition/perspective/etc?

>>2708222
Ellipses on that column look off, but that's just nitpicking.
Good job, i like it. Composition works well.

>>2708222
use the ellipse tool homie

>>2708466
The face looks really flat.

>>2708466
Why do some anime characters have colored eyelashes?

>>2708614
Why is Pikachu's tail yellow with brown stripes?

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>>2707684
Sketchbook Pro, at least on android doesn't that many texture brushes.

However it has the best hair brush I've come across in any drawing program so far

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Did this from imagination, is the anatomy and everything fine ?

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Help me, I'm stupid.
how to rotate this shit in sai w/o merging all layers and blurring all the lines.

>>2707774
I tried a few times, and for now i'll stick with sketches because I can't read all the forms good enough to fill all the gaps, things like complex hair and clothing especially.
Thanks for the advice anyway.

>>2708929
Blog?

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damn this is tough

>>2709086
now just lay in some gradients and render until finished, yr almost there

>>2709086
i dont think ovals on perspective makes sense, specially the tables, make boxes beforehand

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>>2701058
finally done

>>2709086
sad thing is there is nothing interesting about this

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>>2708736
I do have a Surface Pro 2 but lately I've found that its screen has become a bit inadequate due to its size, also windows 10 introduced some issues with palm rejection, I also want to get better at drawing so that's why I've been using my Note 4 a lot more these days. Anyway, I plan on rolling back to w8 and buy an ipad pro to speed up my workflow and do more proper colored pieces.

I think pic related is what you meant, I consider it done but I have not posted it yet because the person who requested it has not paid me yet. I did try to introduce some texture in her sweater and the lower part of the creature's jaw, it was probably not enough though.

>>2709265
How much was the person supposed to pay you?

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>>2709086
Suggestion.

>>2709265
hey firez i have the surface as well. how do you draw so well without pressure sensitivity? or do you just use it for coloring?

>>2709289
45$

Since it was my first commission I honestly had/have no idea about how to price my work, so I went by the cheap route and said it was ok to be paid upon delivery.

This guy has already missed his own set dates for payments like 5 times, so if nothing happens in the next week I guess I will be uploading this low rez version on my blog just to not let the effort go to waste

>>2709216
Ive been wanting to say this and i feel the same way too, but i just cant figure out how to fix it.

>>2709338
Thanks anon.

The SP2 does have pressure sensitivity (1024 levels just like entry level intuos tablets). However I do not use PS for linework, I mostly do that part with Sketcbook Pro on my Note 4 or clip studio on the Surface.

If you are having issues with your SP2 pressure sensitivity try the Wacom feel drivers:

http://us.wacom.com/en/feeldriver/

They are not the same as the ones that come bundled with the SP2, imho they are considerably more responsive.

>>2709341
Wtf for the level of painting you did you can charge way way way way more than that. Don't rip yourself off.

>>2709216
What >>2709361 said pretty much, I spent quite a bit of time trying to 'fix' them but ended up going back to the original anyway because it "felt" better.

>>2709244
Any way I can fix this?

>>2709304
Not sure if I want to up the contrast so much, but thanks for the suggestion

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>>2709413
Thanks m8, I will try to get more info before giving a quote next time.

>>2709497
Noice

>>2708929
put all layers you want to rotate into a folder and then go to the move tool. select rotate and make sure the sampling is set to sharpen/sharper (i forget which term they use)

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wip

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can someone redline this ugly piece of shit?

really need to re-study my anatomy and make sure I 100% know it instead of trying to get by with just a basic grasp of it

>>2709857
tfw I notice my feet and hands aren't same size
cringe

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drew a thing, could someone redline the anatomy please?

dont mind the weird design its for a thing

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>>2709304
gave it a try, i think i might stick with this

>>2710173
your foreground with everyone seated at the tables exists in a different perspective than the background where everyone is standing/the rest of the room is

background is a low angle shot looking up
foreground is a high angle shot looking down

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i was trying to make her look sudanese but i feel like this looks borderline like a racist caricature

>>2710387
it looks like a retarded neanderthal baby

>>2708833
I think it is, except for that shoulder that looks thin compared to the rest, its okay.

>>2710407
what should i fix?

>>2710387
>>2710419
it just looks like an african woman with a really wide skull/face, maybe tone down the width a bit

you'd have to be a huge faggot to consider THAT a racial caricature

>>2700201
the end of manga, congratulations!
>>2702954
use a simple pencil and paper before anything else
>>2707634
post modern stuff, really interesting

>>2710303
Thank you so much, this actually completely fixed the uncanny feeling I was getting from it. Fixing the background characters and perspective did it.

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>>2710527
Forgot to attach. Might not be perfect but I think it feels better now...?

>>2710528
It's still fucked, this time by fault of the background dome. You're looking up into the dome, yet looking down on most of the figures + forms.

You need to remember to keep things consistent. Use a perspective grid to help everything stay in the same space.

>>2710548
Not him but dont wide angles do that

>>2706639
He means lines that don't look wobbly. But that's a drawing skill, you just need to get used to handling a tablet.

>>2710616
Abstract art?

>>2710622
i think so

>>2710548
Pretty much >>2710552, I can't picture it otherwise...

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Can someone help please?

>>2710387
Could always just say it's grotesque tumblrcore.

Funny how extremes on either end meet up.

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>>2709857
don't be so focused on anatomical accuracy/proportions until you've got the energy of the pose down. you can always focus on stuff like that during studies, but remember that feeling the pose is just as important if you don't want to draw wet noodle anime girls

>>2710731
Please stop posting.

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>>2710733

>>2710528
I think the perspective is fine apart from the girl on pedestal and the two guys in the middle. The pedestal is above horizon line (or almost directly on horizon) so you should be looking up at it, not down.
Horizon line appears to be on Miku's eye level so if those two guys are standing, their heads sould definitely be above Miku.
Also the background could use less contrast to bring the main subject forward.

>>2710731
hmm thanks for advice

>>2710738
please don't use my waifu to shitpost

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>>2709986
hey man whatchu think of my dog

>>2710437
Do you mean something like the logical end of the absurdity of manga?

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>>2710528
the attached picture is a rough estimate of the current state of this room viewed from the side

-black is the camera
-blue is the bounding box
-orange is the booth, the tables, and the pedestal
-green is the people (save for girl on the far right, left out for sake of clarity)
-red is ridge where the fancy windows (or wall designs if they're not windows) of the dome in the background meet the lower wall (the fancy ridge part of the wall that passes through both miku's head and the heads of the two boys in the background)

>>2710725
this post blew my mind

>>2710173
I still think you should break the scene in tonal planes. It looks kinda chaotic right now.

new threddy >>2710853

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>>2709857

>>2710881
hey nice, thanks

connecting the legs to the pelvis and knowing precisely how/where/why it curves eludes me, so knowing the places im goin wrong is yuge
and so uh, yeh
thanks for taking the time to help

>>2711718
looks pretty spot-on

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what do you think of this? I am very used to drawing orderly with lines but I wanted to try a practice where you 'draw' more with your feelings and avoid setting down inhibiting lines, so anatomy is less of a focus, the anatomy I do struggle with so I end up putting a lot of powder into that.

I'm not sure if this color choice is the best one, I was originally going with reddish pink and blue back ground, but when I accidentally added black I noticed that it became more grounded or real ?

But then again I'm working with pretty light colors then I throw in a dark black and that sounds like a technical no-no

added the heart in her palm to add (symmetry?/contrast?) to the black lines in her dress

>>2710715
>Face perspective is weird.
>Breast don't line up with rest of body.
>Her right foot is pointing upward even though the rest of her leg is angled to the bottom right
>Her right arm is to skinny
>Tail is flat
>Coffee is at weird angle
Image is a fuck; learn figures and stick to one perspective.

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eh?