Alternative Art/Stylization General

>>2688859
>>2688871

Bumping to this to here

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tame enough for the thread I think.

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non-referenced gesture and perspective practices

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>>2688985
oops, too big
resized sorry

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will probably get rekt but whatever...
any comment on improving the colors?

>>2689333
this is pretty cool. i think it would look better with black outside of the borders instead of white though

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fuck it, I don't know how to draw hair

>>2689333
It's readable so its hard to say what needs improving. You could do a lot more with the shadows but that might not be what you're going for.

Instead, look at artists like;

https://www.youtube.com/user/TimMcburnieArt/videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/MrSalicorne/videos

And think about how you can adapt their workflow to fit your own.

>>2688865
Outdated OP. Live stream list is ded.

>>2689347
yeah, I though that too, the only issue is that one page is almost white, so I was hesitating to go with such a strong contrast with two consecutive pages. I'll try it, it should work.

>>2689350
thanks for the links. Working with comics definitely makes you need a different and correct workflow.

>>2688876
>...and then she farts!

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>>2689348
I hope this helps anon.

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>>2689348

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Can I have some help with this, please? I'm trying to make it in this style

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And I can't fabric on ground or anything else to save my life :(

>>2689435
I see these images posted quite often, does anyone have any tutorials on rules pertaining to *where* volumes of hair are placed on some common hairstyles? Stuff like how big to make bangs, where to place hair and where not to.

>inb4 "just look at reference anon"
but it could be nice if some reoccurring guidelines were simplified and/or written down

>>2689454
lern ah da funtees

>>2688985
That's not gesture

>>2689630
For once, it actually looks good.
Butterface.

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Trying out making a splash for the new LoL champion Ivern. Basically an opposite version of him. He normally has a beard made out of leaves but I'm considering changing it to poisonous flowers, it would be a pain to do though. I'll try out a blue/violet vibe, or a red one.

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these fucking shadows........plz send help.

>>2689750

4x is that you

>>2689769
yep, you have a good eye, how did you know ? never posted those kinds of things here. Usually thought people recognized me by the pencil brush I use.

>>2689774

>brush

Pretty much this

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a bunch of doodles on separate layers, but I thought they made a nice shape when viewed at once so I might try to make something coherent out of it

>>2689787
the swooping background image of the girl with the spread legs is making me want to read it like a story
if you made the images a progression of something but kept up the different capacities and flow that this one has you could make some really compelling stuff

>>2688873

pls respond

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this is the second attempt at this character, first one was too frontal and boring

>>2689765
You going to colour this when you're done inking? Looks dope.

>>2689787
rearranged it would make a great movie poster

>>2689835
yea, im just struggling with the angle of the shadows.

>>2689765
>>2689835
>>2689861
>answering to your own post every time
fucking ftripfag

>>2690083
Really nice line control!

Legs are too compressed at the knee, even as a style choice. If your gastrocnemius + ankle is that thick, it's inexcusable for the knee to have this much compression. Her left ankle is basically thicker than her left knee lol

Your perspective under the waist is fucked. Even if her legs are apart, there's way too much foreshortening on one and not enough on the other.

>>2690091
Thanks, will reference on the finish.

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Anyone know who drew this one in the last thread? I really really really like their work i want to see more of it, it insprired me very much and i wanted to ask somthing

>>2689630
i really wish you'd suck it up and paint traditionally...

>>2690108
I'd also like to know

>>2689787
wow shit, you have an animator's appeal in line quality. no meme, blog?

>>2690108
yeah same here

>>2690083
Blog?

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no refs used, inspired in ruan jia uncanny faces from memory I guess, didnt stress on this one

dunno if worth pushing further anymore

>>2688876
blog?

>>2690140
thanks anon
thatfisher.tumblr.com

>>2690164
>thatfisher.tumblr.com
Fuck you're so good. I was just passing by and checked out your link, and realized then that I was the one that drew your little character hanging himself the other day haha, but I didn't realize how good you are in your full work. Great stuff man. Who are your drawing influences?

>>2689787
>>2690164
oh fuck MY DIIICKKKK

>>2690146
>>2690151
Both me

sidneyanders.tumblr.com

>>2688876
>>2690083
Why does everything go to shit below the waist in your drawings?

>>2690231
I only post here half as much as I used to.

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>>2689462
Something like this?

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>>2690148
His right eye and half of the could be shorter, I would also try to play with the liquify filter to make his features more appealing

<- Some note 4 sketches

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>>2690474
First face looks a bit off... Maybe it's the angle, I don't think we should be seeing so much of the top of her head if we're seeing that much of her chin.

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>>2689750
Jesus rendering stuff takes freaking forever. Anyway, the color was originally blue wood to match the blue light in his core but I like this shade too, doesn't really fit the mood though.

>>2690487
Try working on the whole canvas and build everything up simultaneously rather than starting in one point and working out. Like maybe lay in some big flat shapes of the local colours for the demon, the flowers, the ground. Then start putting in shadows on everything, then working on the lights etc. Using big brushes then gradually using smaller ones as you progress. You'll find it goes quicker this way and everything will be more unified.

>>2690483
Love the one on the top left, I kinda feel emotion even though there's nothing really indicating it on her face. Good subtlety

>>2690490
Thx for the tip, but I already tried believe me, that's probably the best method but i ended up deleting everything because i can't focus on a single place at once.

I dont really know why, I think its because it's really messy and looks like shit at first, that's maybe what's demotivating me

>>2690497
you have to punch through that, you're gonna have more problems when you're zoomed into one area trying to keep the entire paint consistent.

>>2688986
>>2688985
There isn't a single gesture drawing on that page anon.

>>2690497
There's a technical name for this but I forget, it's pretty much dividing your canvas into panels, this way you have a clearer idea of the entire piece, allowing you to focus on smaller spaces and seeing the "flow" of your drawing before you even begin.

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>>2689865
have you not got something more important to do?
like, iunno, help me with these fucking shadows.

>>2690108
>>2690136
>>2690144
http://dangpa.tumblr.com/

>>2690652
Pretty cute and hawt blog cant wait to see more of your work.

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Tried something not sci-fi for once.

>>2690761

Your line quality is fantastic my friend, what's your secret/software, if you got any?

Only true criticism is that I would detail out your flowers/beer fuzz. It's simple cartoony design overall, but the levels on the flower and beer fuzz, specifically the fuzz just seems too simple and out of style. (like I can see the little bit of hue change in the beer but it's not a very convincing effect and hardly visible. Try shifting value and/or saturation aswell).

>>2690761
Nice, man

>>2690761
Superb finishing. Do you do like a grain pass or something? What other things will you routinely adjust before calling your work done?

>>2690763
I use Paint Tool SAI, no secrets, just hands on the Ctrl-Z until I get lines I'm happy with.
Honestly ran out of steam at the beer/flowers, unfortunately I suppose it shows.
>>2690772
Yep, I do a grain pass at the end, don't enjoy the perfect flat digital look horribly much. Generally the grain pass is the end of a piece, but the routine usually goes: Sketch > Lineart > Flats > Shading/Rendering > Adjustment to lineart, any other details I feel need fixing that I hadn't noticed previousl > Grain.
>>2690770
Thank you!

>>2690761
Beautiful.

>>2690652
>http://dangpa.tumblr.com/
thank you very much, just followed with my new tumblr acc.

>>2690774
blog?

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>>2690108
>inspired
boy you just wanna fap to swole eagle men

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heles sketch with gaussian blur so it looks 1% less shit

>>2690774
Hey, TH! I'd love to see you make a process image.

It could even become a new meme in those process threads!

>>2691085
qt out of ten

blog?

>>2691085
Interesting look. I like it, reminds me of a frozen wasteland or mountains.

>>2691113 >>2691118
thanks! its Midorimakuns on facebook and http://rokujuukyu.tumblr.com/ but i rarely update it

>>2691121
>it's cute twintails and cute boy on ice anon
You're so good, I had only wished I could see more of your work. I really enjoy them.

>>2691085

You should really just forward her eyes/expression. It doesn't really read well since nothings going on, but It's not exactly an art problem, just seems like a weird choice (kinda looks like one of those stills from a VN). It almost seems like she's listening to something against a wall since her left ear is positioned higher than her right and her expression would kind of work with that act, but the body doesn't read that way.

>>2691124
oh wow thank you so much, I don't come here often but my FB page is updated most frequently because I hate tumblr
>>2691125
actually thank you for that tip, because i never know what to do with faces and somehow everything looks liveless and shit

>>2691129

It's no problem. Looking at your stuff I can see what you're saying. I would suggest practicing expression (maybe take one character and lay out an expression sheet, do it at different angles etc so you get an idea of what on the face exactly dictates a good expression). Body motion can also speak volumes but you can get alot from just the face.

Also just another suggestion looking through your gallery, but complete some pieces. Make something with a background etc and a bit more gestural and tell a bit of a story. I think you're suffering in your arts liveliness because you're not giving your characters anything to do.

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>>2688865
in the future, we'll all have lolibots
and world peace will be achieved

>>2691188
sounds like apretty cute world to me

>>2691187
Thanks for taking your time and looking at my stuff/giving me advice, I'll definetely work on that and post it here

>>2691192

Looking forward to it. Keep up the work.

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trash I'll be re-doing tomorrow without skiping drawing :/
trying to do mononoke as artorias kek

>>2691215

I hate to hate on artstyle but I really dislike those eyes. You've probably heard it before so I'm sorry for repeating but she would just look much better with normal eyes. It's just kind of uncanny and not too incredibly charming, plus mononoke is a more determined looking character, she's not reflected super well I feel.

>>2691227
I like those eyes, they seem definitely determined.

>>2691215
I'm a different anon and i also don't really like the look of these eyes. They make her look more shrewd and suspicious.. Or maybe it's just the way you've shaded the rest of her face. Her lower lids blend into the top contours of her triangle face paint and make her look kind of tired

>>2691215
>>2691297
Imo I think the right eye is placed too far off and the perspective seems to be off too. If you cover that eye, the left eye looks fine.

>>2691085
what did you use to color this?

>>2691382

Looks like thy used a low opacity watercolor brush without size sensitivity.

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going to add more detail. This is my first pass

>>2691464
Damn I like them waist and hips.

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>>2688865
animal design tomfoolery/ shitpost

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>>2691506
didnt even realize i did that.

>>2691500
Don't use those ugly blood textures, it ruins an otherwise solid image.

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Recalling that girl on the train.

>>2691506
Its either too loose to say or your horizon and perspective is all over the place.

>>2691602

You can't just attach tits to a near completely male physique and call it a woman. It's the same reason you can't just draw a girl with no tits and give it a dick, even if its hot.

>>2691580
Looks like she is leaning a tad too forward.

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>>2691580
cute. It's not a mistake, but in an idealized figure the chin aligns in a line. Just sayin'.

>>2691442
Exactly what I did lol

>>2691648

Neat, I'm getting better at this (although that ones a bit more obvious than others).

Just want to get to the point of creating/duplicating some of the nice brushes I see my favorite artist use, probably the biggest one being whatever some artist use to make their tapered edged fur/hair details.

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>>2691621
even Michelangelo was guilty of this:

>>2691873
...and he was a massive faggot.
seriously, his dying slave is one of the most obvious gay porn disguised as art in art history.

>>2691500
Her tits look a little too spherical for her pose, her shirt is obviously loose so I don't think they could be pushed up to that degree, they should be hanging more.

the way her back transitions into her neck also looks a little awkward.

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A couple thumbnail practices

my first one actually

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Is this still too similar to everything else? I'll try something more angled if that's the case

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>>2691901
second one

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>>2691901
>>2691976
these are actually too detailed to be thumbnails, and they're pretty bland precisely when looked at as thumbnails. the scene is weirdly vignetted by the branches or the walls and it doesn't look look natural. if you want dynamism base your composition on an uneven triangle.

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>>2688865

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>>2692160

>>2689422
>she

>>2692156
those are some big dogs

>>2691944
I love it. Please explain your figure drawing in perspective secrets.

>>2691464
hand, knees an feet and how the all connect are things you should study more, they feel stylistically and structurally weak compared to the red of the sketch

good overall tho nwn

>>2692156
blog please.

>>2692178
I think it still needs work, but; there's no secret, it's what I literally learned from you guys, to break everything down into simple shapes in a plane first then build up from there.

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>>2691944
>>2692495

I think you're still in a weird position that doesn't grant the scale well. I meean it's not complete enough to tell but you should make the angle from a bridge or some place on ground or from an obvious humans perspective of the giant thing.

Like put more obvious ground level structures closer to the camera and maybe draw your loli farther back. When viewing something huge the most convincing perspective is from that of a human, and you're almost there but they're still not close enough angled to the ground.

This is hard to say since I've never really done something similar, going off of observation so I apologize. Image isn't the best but I couldn't find a super great example.

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>>2692156
>that line weight

>>2692535
Whoa, this is a piece that I've never seen before. Hardly see damaged creatures and magic.

>>2692156
Conceptually great, you need loomis tho muh nibba.

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Simple ass pose so I could see where my rendering skills were at. i'm happy because it's better than what I was capable of a few months ago but I'm not at the level I want to be yet.

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Welp, another one on the abandoned idea list.

>>2692597
>idea
She's like, a cyborg, spy, detective?

>>2692600
Cyborg detective yep. Wanted to do some intricate clusterfuck of accessories and such but then I ended up liking the simplicity too much.

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quick chibi drawing, haven't done anything in this style in a while

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>>2692617
this is very cute

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In progress.

>>2692617
Even for simple things you should do a few thumbs, you kept the idea in your head without checking and finding the best method so you tried to play it safe. Also, low color range, needs much more contrast. Then you would also see that the outlines can be improved a lot.

Also, do some doodles for the details to learn more about them. Hair, ears, arms, legs, eyes are all very generic without any deeper thought.

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>>2692617
don't fall into the trap of relying too much on that camera raw filter.

>>2691905
I can dig it look good to me m8

>>2692690
The way you handle the hair and face reminds me of the Dronpa style. Subject wise sorta fits as well, with descruction etc

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>>2690980

>>2692156
the right girl's head is weird

also think of animu eyes on the girls as slightly 3D and less flat.

>>2692192
yea. forelimbs are probably my biggest weakness. I'll wrk on it

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>>2692690
that pov is more epic than usual

>started to rend as usual
not being productive tho
>>2692728
don't fall on the trap of relying on too big tits

>>2692987
>don't fall on the trap of relying on too big tits

That doesn't even make any sense.

>>2692805
thanks!

>>2692987
Her cleavage seems way too high up for the direction/position of her torso.

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Im back yet again with another zoomed out sketch without context or life
Im sorry anon who gave me advice to do otherwise
(except for him wearing my pjs)

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>>2690486
>>2690492
Thanks, I hope this is better.

>>2692987
The anatomy here could use of lot of work. Her left ear attaches oddly to her skull, her breasts are too high and small for that amount of cleavage, her arms are really short and thin, even for the style you're aiming toward. I like the composition, though.

>>2693285
Cute, blog?

>>2693295
http://rokujuukyu.tumblr.com/ ayeeee thanks

>>2693285

Son I'm disappointed. I didn't tell you to give em PJs.

It's alright though, I hardly follow my own advice most of the time. Just try to go outside your boundary at some point or you'll get complacent. Backgrounds if I'm not solely painting a background are difficult for me so I do a lot of my stuff as characters in nothing. You won't get better at putting them in situations though unless you take that extra step. Taking chances and doing difficult things is better even if the end product may turn out shit a few times. Doing the opposite is how deviantart happens.

Also (s)he's cute, although the face seems a little punched in.

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Space pilot idea, any tips on conceptualizing futuristic-looking armor?

>>2692690
Thanks!

>>2692715
Yeah... Looking back on it now I feel like I should've spent some time on making an actual rough sketch, went straight from simple circles to the linework.

>>2692728
Can you elaborate? I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

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Rate my anatomically inaccurate sheep.

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>>2688865
Suprising. I thought I posted in this thread already.

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>>2693670
The two of them always seem to be lugging around a million bags. They'd make great cartoon characters I think.

>>2693580
Function.

This can mean two things. One is to look at ancient or modern day armor and see how segments work. Make sure you don't end up with ridiculously cumbersome shoulderpads or parts that wouldn't allow any range of motion,

The second part is to think of the function of the armor within your settings. Is it for a space miner? An explorer? A SWAT police unit in a dystopian city? Whatever the function of your armor, find a way to convey this to your viewer. It makes for way more interesting pieces than "generic armored spessman".

>>2693619
blog?

>>2692156
kek'd, sav'd

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>>2693290
thx, tried to fix chest, will keep polishing the rest with liquify or edits before actually going on a painterly approach to polish stuff on the last layer (after filtering and shit)

the thumbnail values/color reads really quick on this point

my process get messed up in so many ways it's really a struggle to iterate it even sightly without breaking from it, but I guess inserting the artorias helmet worked ok

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m!Ruko, tried to do something else than just a tiny smile this time, It's a tiny step but Ive withered in my comfort zone for 8 years

>>2691188
is this a rembot

>>2693964
That helmet would never fit her head. Also, learn to draw males. You drawing Mononoke instead of Artorias just feels like a cop-out since most of your artwork is waifu trash. So I can't even call the cross-over clever. Nearly everything about Artorias was inspired by Guts from Berserk anyway.

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Ghost in the Shell drawing, firt time using dip pen.

>>2694148
*first

>>2694148
You didn't properly fill out the black areas.
You weren't doing the oultines properly, often you can see where they overlap.
Don't put pressure on the paper with the pencil.

As for ink, pretty much everything is better than dip pens. There are special fountain pens for drawing and brush pens which both allow you to draw better.

Also, you still seem to be in school, so join portrait/stil life drawing lessons if they have them.

>>2694148
Also, get yourself "How to Draw Anime and Game Characters Vol 1". It is good at pointing out most mistakes you will probably make and seems to be written for your situation.

>>2694166
I'm not in school, yeah i need better markers and so on.

>>2694173
Yeah, markers are crap for this. What actually works here is using a small watercolor brush for filling out the black areas and if you are worried that you get over the edges with the brush you can use the markers there.

>>2694182
Ah okay, thanks.

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Taking a break from ropes and instead getting lack of sleep from sketching out monster girls for more than a week in a row

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testing brush

>>2694324
shit is ugly yo.

>>2694324
I think it looks good.

>>2694365
no.
no thats a bad brush.
not taking into consideration the picture but you dont do lineart with a brush like this.

>>2694367
It doesn't look like it's meant to produce final line art. Seems like it's a brush meant for sketching with, hence the file name.

just fuck my shit up
What should I study? I'm going through Scott Robertson's books right now and just sketched this for fun.

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>>2694527
oops pic didn't post

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>>2694528
>>2694528
Your head is too low, your neck is too far back, your ear is too small, your eyebrow starts too far back (should line up with the corner of the eye afaik) and your eyes aren't aligned.

Furthermore I think there might be something off with your pupils' orientation, but I can't really experiment or redraw them with a mouse, so sorry I'm not much help there.

Keep studying proportions, pay attention to your mistakes and learn to correct them regularly if they're recurring.

>>2694534
Thanks! I'll keep that in mind.

>>2694534
Forgot to add, but I moved your mouth + nose a little bit lower. When doing top down perspective keep in mind features sit significantly lower on the face and we see more of the top of the head.

>>2694324
An anon bitched at me about using a similar brush. Probably not worth it
Messes with your eyes too much.
Fine for sketching tho

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Botesluts are harder than I originally estimated they would be.

Gonna try working on dynamic poses.

>>2694544
>4000x6000
Jesus, pls resize

>>2693619
I was about to say the cushion looks like a dick but then I realized that's most likely what you were going for.

>>2694593
>not having a 40" 4k G-Sync Enabled IPS monitor

what are you even doing with your life

>>2694625
>not having basic consideration for those less fortunate and then openly mocking them

Yeah i wonder about that too

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>>2694629
>>2694593
Sorry about that, honestly forgot.

>>2689630
Looking good since you started painting over photos.

>>2690761
Appealing as always my man
Did you ever finish that Alien drawing?

>>2694638
4kx6k
>sorry here's again
2kx3k

top kek

limit your post to 1k on the longer side

do you realice monitors show up only 1080 pixels in vertical? that's why

>>2694776
do you realize there's an option to fit images to your screen?
not him by the way

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>>2688865

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please, i just need a paint over, even a quick one.
why does this look so flat.

and too who-ever keeps complimenting my work every time i post, stop, please god stop, it just derails the critt desired.

>>2694874
Atmospheric perspective?

>>2694881
thats kinda what i was going for, a lighter background...

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>>2694874
This is just my 2 cents, but you should maybe darken your shadowy area and strengthen your highlights. Since your mask is metal, make it act like metal, and you'll see a big increase in depth.

>>2694890
thank you for the paintover, i see what you mean, ill take it that direction.

>>2694821
Study up on how limbs are structrred, Berry. Your torsos are too long and the arms are too shirt in the majority of your drawings.

>>2692728
i fucking love those big fat tits, if I had a penis I would be furiously stroking it right now, props to you man

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I know I know, I'm shit at colour comp and perspective, but it's the idea that matters. I wanted something comfy, so I based the picture off this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djyViSY332M

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>>2694874
Keep it simple and tailor your rendering to your lines. It's easier to block colors in as masses and get things working as a whole before adding noise and "rendering".

It could become a crutch but if you struggle with color just block in the local colors (what they'd be under white light) then add a multiply layer and use a slightly darker sky hue as your shadows. It'll help break things up into something more managable.

>>2688865
Links for images used? I like a lot of them, glad there's less weab crap

>>2695071
They're all from the last thread >>2679286

>>2694931
yeah thanks
I still struggle with proportions, i'll study some more ;-;

>>2691944
this Rin is so cute btw she does look more gigantic c :

Does anybody have good tips for making faces feminine? I feel like my women always looks like trannies. What are some things to look out for in feminine vs. masculine faces?

>>2695101
Soft, round features. Women usually have less sharp angles than men.

>>2695101
Dude there are like, one thousand videos on youtube with people explaining something like this.
But the most important thing is the jawline i would say. While the mens jaw is broad and has sharp edges the female jaw is rounder without edgges and not as broad at the end. Also smaller nose and more exagerated lips.
Subtly bigger eyelashes too can do the trick

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>too busy to even study/warmup
Ugh.

>>2694874

Strengthen the contrast of colors Your blacks are fine but you're really only slightly going between highlight and shadow. Plus like the other anon said, stuff like the helmet since it's metal would be working against light differently.

>>2691944
More dramatic angle and composition then we usually see from you... I'm liking it!

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>>2695104
>>2695113

I guess I just never feel like I'm doing any of it right. If I focus on features being round, they always look like weird, oversized children, but if I try to give them some angles or something, it feels like they always turn out looking like a post-op. Maybe I just need to study more women.

>>2695136
Your female looks pretty strong. Though in my opinion it looks just like a tomboy but still a female.
The nose might still be too big.
Id guess the problem lies with her back looking really strong though i could say what. Lets hope someone well versed in Anatomy comes your way.

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some more cliche anime shit
(aww im in the thread pic cool)

>>2695056
underappreciated post

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>>2695208
Hmm.. Maybe it's the musculature of the neck and body in conjuction with the head/facial features? Could be that I'm making the neck and shoulders too strong, so they compound the issues with the facial features and have her come off as man-ish.

When I study and work from reference (like pic related, just now), I feel like this issue isn't as apparent. Or maybe it is. Maybe I'm just not drawing enough regularly to be ready to stylize.

>>2695291
>>2695136

I think the lattis (lattisimus?) seems too big too strong.
Also the breasts are pretty tight so they look kinda well trained?
The pic you used as a reference has some slightly more heavier softer breasts.
They look like they really have weight. Im pretty much an amateur probably worse than you but thats what I would say as an observing human being

>>2695136

Basically what

>>2695301 said.

It's kind of a lack of weight on the boobs, they seem kinda strapped down/weightless. Also she's just overall a bit sharp on her face, like her upper lip. Maybe bring down the position of the eyes or squish the face as the eyes seems a bit like they may be resting on the curve of the top of the skull and not exactly in the sockets. I think her head is a bit off positing where it should normally belong on her neck.

>>2695101
Treat men and women as different species.

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>>2695318
>>2695301
Thank you guys so much for your help. I think it's starting to make more sense..

>>2695330

Huge improvement. Biggest issue looking at it now was really just the placement of those upper facial features.

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Think I'm done

>>2695506
Arms are definitely too long.

>>2695518
they're fine, the one she's holding up yeah maybe a little

>>2695506
>>2695518
don't listen, arms are fine.

>>2695506
>>2695521
No, her left arm is definitely slightly longer

>>2695518
>>2695520
>>2695523
I can see it now. Thx

>>2695056
Great crit.

>>2689348
or at all, sorry anon you clearly lack the basics

>>2690487
i wish i could render like this, i just cant get it right

>>2692597
i really hate when people say this about my stuff, but this looks pretty close to DEX, a game

>>2695243
is this a scan of a marker drawing that you colored? if not what brushes are you using? looks exactly like sharpie or something

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I have clearly developed a problem over the course of the day.

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>>2695596
it was drawn/inked on a notecard, scanned in and painted over. I use like five brushes I made with scanned textures.

>>2695702
how do you remove the red lines while aso leaving the marker texture intact?

>>2695709
Put the drawing in grayscale, up the contrast, color range select the black, delete everything else.

>>2695243
totally love your arts tyle.

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Run of the mill fantasy, got bored with the rendering though.
>>2695605
Noice, looks way better than when I first saw it.

>>2695892
imo could be improved by using a less neutral facial expression to coincide with the agressive gesture, like the composition tho.

>>2690925
thdark.tumblr.com
>>2691095
My only hesitation for doing something like that, is how sloppy my layer management/process is.
>>2694642
Thanks, and no, to be honest I forgot about it. I had put it on hold as I wasn't liking it much, and then just started working on other things.

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>>2695605

done, I am aware the image size is too big.

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Being the Style thread, I got some questions.

I need inspiration for cartoon styles. Do you guys know of any other artists who do anthropomorphic animals really well aside from Warner/Disney? Particularly ducks. That bill is really tricky.

No furshit please. I want something with a lit of unique style. Something like pic related and stuff.

>>2688865
"Avoid the small stuff unless you are just using it for Osu! Mediums are the worst decision, requiring you have to use both wrist and elbow in tandem, making it next to impossible to get good strokes."

So what go large or go home?

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I dont know how to handle bg/grounding for the figure, it's disgusting

>>2694890
fucking barf

Can I ask you guys how long you've been drawing for? This is the kind of stuff I aspire to be able to draw.

>>2697013
>This is the kind of stuff I aspire to be able to draw.

Quit now while you're still ahead.

>>2697013
>This is the kind of stuff I aspire to be able to draw.

There are lots of different skill levels in this thread. You have to be a bit more specific here.

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Will take me a long run to make my own simplified one.. Still being hard on to the reference.

>>2695056
oh wow.
i guess iv been pushing the wrong style with the colours, this is way better.
thank you.

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>>2688865
more Iori sketches

>>2697051
Hands too small.

>>2697054
Watch your face + hairline on rightmost girl, they don't seem to be comforming to the shape of the head.

Left girl's hairline has a lesser version of the problem, where the hairline seems pulled too far back on the side (shouldn't go behind the ear). Her neck is way too thin.

You've done a good job at making the poses flow well, though.

>>2696953
Your character seems to be backlit from an angle where the building would block the light source. The only way she can receive this light is if it comes from slightly under her, in which case there could be cast shadows on the bottom plane of the building. Seeing a daylight picture with a sky/horizon and white light, though, the immediate association is to assume this light comes from the sun.

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>>2697054
yes yes. more lori more more now draw some that include panties

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I tried...

>>2695611
her right arm is too short.

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trying to find a way of constructing the torso that's simple but still has a sense of volume

sorry for shit quality

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>>2697335
You have the right idea but you're not envisioning the mass of the pelvis very well. Maybe study up on what the pelvis looks like, or use a box or some other simple form for it.

>>2697343
thanks m8. I do need to get down how the pelvis/hips work, I'll do some actual figure studies and the like

>>2697066
you're right, thanks for the pointers.
i've been grinding faces and hair, will continue doing so c :

>>2697215
more iori? and nsfw? check my blog lol

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concept art for a friend's sexy farming game. crits?

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Messing around with character design.

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>>2697450
2/2
And yeah, I see the awful anatomy in this one too. I made the drawing a few months ago. I'll fix it later. I just really wanted to get down toward getting those ideas flowing and I was too lazy to redraw him.

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>>2695506
forearms and neck too long

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a quicky

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>>2697054
some suggestions

the hands need form. avoid sausage tube fingers. bring in the volume of the hair. ears are too high for this kind of moe style. head is miss placed and jutting out on the left drawing.

>>2697446
It's shitty.

>>2697059
Will keep that in mind.

>>2697350
Link to blog?

>>2697446
it feels like some sort of lofi/shoegaze neon light painting

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More coloring practice.
Any help appreciated. I threw on a shitty background to make it more presentable but I plan on adding a better one after it's finalized.

Help appreciated on: the hand, rendering the bottle more convincingly/to fit with the style i'm going for, and help for gem stones like the one on her collar.

>>2697561
thank you for doing this for us.

>>2697698
flatberry.tumblr.com

>>2697561
oh damn son thats a fine redline
great feet
saved, thanks. i'm really hoping to improve c :

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>>2697343
>>2697348
here's a second go at it. Lame-ass levitation pose and unfinished arm aside, I think the torso looks way better

>>2697853
strange perspective on the legs

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I might change the suit arms into something more mechanical looking so that people don't think they're just really disproportionate

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>>2693676

>>2695506
Real nice, but I strongly feel the super-soft rendering crashes with the rough hard textured line art.

>>2697561
A+ redline!

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today's drawing~

>>2698000
Quite lovely at first glance, but the hands are atrocious.

>>2698000
looks cool, what artist or reference can I look at to try something in that style?

>>2698006
agreed, i am currently focusing on faces but i'll do hands and feet as soon as i can

>>2698009
thanks
not sure, i'm kinda trying to develop a style myself : /
if it helps i'm using a very soft brush for drawing, i think the color combination i'm using looks kinda good. idk, gotta keep experimenting i guess.

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wip
>>2697895
lmao made me chuckle
so sketcy yet really readable forms gj

>>2698000
white dots doesn't read because there's no contrast around that white

>>2697737
you need to work more on the line drawing until you get correct forms

your lightting/shadows are close to pillowshading, decide a light source with confidence and eyeball or use vanishing points to point how that shadow should be casted

>>2698000
everything is wrong
dont skip your fundementals

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>>2697737

>>2698042
Show me your fucking blog
That Gwen is awesome

>>2698045
post your work.

>>2698082
I'm everywhere but twitter
http://albertomoldes.deviantart.com/

>>2698042
>those hair physics

>>2698045
don't forget to breath

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I need a vision break

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trying to make a brush that feels right for how i like to draw shapes/use line to imply form
thinking i should lower the min size but up the min texture depth, or maybe it's the transfer/color dynamics. this is hard ;-;

probably gonna extend her legs down and have her roller skating, dress her slightly in relative clothing

>>2698228
face is flat

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>>2698228
>>2698228
did some tweakin on values, lighting up top of the figure, darkening the bottom of the picture, while pushing the contrast of the foreground and a bit on the midground (her belly)
and some color contrast too
explained on pic
oh, and also turned lightspots on the hair more blue-ish

at the moment her panties have the same aerial perspective than her head
everything else is ok, you might want to make some edges to separate hand from forearm, for example with some blue bounce

new thread >>2698261

>>2698237
Looks french

>>2698268
This thread isnt dead yet. You keep jumping the gun.

>>2694324
cigarette chan

>>2698042
>>2698060
Thank you both that helps.

>>2698306
both are me but didnt had the namefag mode active

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just did a sketch commission

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Tried stylizing shit a while back but I did`nt get anywhere. She ended up looking like a boy instead of a girl plus the stylization looks very unattractive. I give up on stylizing for awhile I think i`ll just stick to learning my fundamentals and how to draw people.

>>2696253
Eoghan Kerrigan
Phewfus
Robbvision

There aren't a lot of people that draw Anthros that aren't furries, and fewer still that do it in a cartoon style specifically.

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>>2698862
Forgot to add the image.

>>2698369
Nice lines and pretty dynamic angle, but the area above her tits should be shorter at that angle, now the top half of the torso looks too long and she has failed sagging silicone implants...

>>2697455

Do you have a tumblr or something?