ITT: People who made it tell us what it's like

I didn't get a penny the world was as hostile to me as before and all my energy was gone making other people rich. I have the potential reality of watching my loved ones die never seeing me actually being successful in front of me. I still think someone might do me a favour but it seems very unlikely.

>>2664240
Define "making it".

>>2664257
Not Op but I would define it as living off of your art in any way
Idk if others think the same

>>2664284
An exhibition and a national paper write up would be MAKING IT , still might not get a penny however

>>2664257
OP here. For most people it means either getting a good job as an artist or getting to live comfortably by doing freelance. Not sure what it would mean for comic artists. Getting published, i guess?

>>2664284
>>2664290
Then I've potentially "made it" according to your definitions since I live off my art, though I don't really count it since I am really underpaid and I struggle to make enough to live off of.

Also nothing changed from before to after. I still deal with depression and still hate my art.

>>2664301
>ion and still hate my art.
You hate your art? I love my art but everybody else hates it. If I hated my art I think I would stop. No offence but that's a sad reply.
Can we cheer you up?

>>2664305
It's normal for people to hate their own art..

>>2664305
It's best to hate your art

If you don't hate what you're making now, how could you possibly improve?

>>2664301
Can you post your art? What exactly do you do art wise?

>>2664327
*WARNING* Total Bullshit *WARNING*

>>2664338
This.

>>2664318
No it isn't , only for /IC which absolutely revels in it

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>>2664240
>that feeling of satisfaction when you finally break a progress wall
> that feeling when your art stops offending yourself

Is this how it feels to make it?

>>2664338
>>2664342
I don't feel like posting an image really since it can be tracked back to me through reverse searching and in that post I was whining about not making much and being depressed. I do generic fantasy art though for various games if you're wondering. Nothing special.

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I "made it" about a month ago. It's nice. I enjoy drawing and painting much more now. For how little effort I was putting in it sure felt like the fucking weight of the world was on my shoulders and it wasnt relaxing or fun at all.

That's probably the thing I'd tell people is it gets easier the harder you work. The more thought you put into what you are doing the more fun you will have. Sometimes when you don't know how to use the artistic parts of your brain it feels like you are just faking it even if you are putting in 10 hours a day or something crazy like that. But it definitely gets easier you just have to make that leap from thinking what you know isnt good enough to thinking its fine what you already know.

And that sounds contradictory but there's a part of your brain you aren't using when you draw before you "make it" because you don't trust it. The part of your brain that just accepts what you are capable of.

>>2664361
I want to see how good you are though.

Simply add the image and scribble over some part or something so it can't be reverse image search.

>>2664318
>>2664344

I see it all the time outside of /ic/. It's pretty common, I don't know about "normal".

>>2664361
Feel like you're being a fag, do you really put every little sketch online?

>>2664364
I'm sort of middle of the pack I guess? I think I'm not very good but other people seem to like it. I've been published in Spectrum and stuff if that means anything to you.

>>2664361
>I don't feel like posting a
If you don't want to then don't. These people are often very cruel.

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>>2664370
This is my generic shit tier work.

How much better are you than me? I assume a lot .

>>2664377
It's very good well done I like it

>>2664379
But it isn't.

>>2664377
you're better than me. I'm >>2664363
you just need to believe in your abilities more. you are very talented but it's going to waste because you are so insecure in what you already know. Once you stop trying to get better and just start making art the sky is the limit.

>>2664363
Hey its you can I ask what work you are getting?

>>2664363
really good advice anon. i found myself having that mindset of 'i have to learn not produce' for way too long and i got 0 practice making anything with the right mindset outside of 'draw 100s of this so in a year you can draw something else but similar'

>>2664368
No, but the good ones often end up online, or I will want to hold on to them until I can rework them for a final or something. I'm not going to post some throwaway piece of shit either because it defeats the purpose of posting artwork to show my level.

>>2664372
Yeah thanks I won't post anything.

>>2664377
I hate to say it, but yes I think my work is several years ahead of yours at least, no offence. I would consider your work to still be beginner, while mine is probably low to mid professional.

>>2664388
>I hate to say it, but yes I think my work is several years ahead of yours at least, no offence. I would consider your work to still be beginner, while mine is probably low to mid professional.

Right, well I can gauge from that how good you are. Thanks anon.

>>2664381
It is I like it

>>2664388
Post someone else's work that you think is around your skill level.

>>2664396
See >>2664388

Its miles away from being professional. Therefor it sucks.

>>2664385
Nothing yet but honestly I was pretty shitty up until lately so all my whining about not making money probably wasn't justified. Hopefully within the next three years I have a steady income I just need to make more paintings and find connections

I would like to find who mods this board and bang nails into their feet

>>2664402
y tho

>>2664363
shut the fuck up brian, you still have years to go before you class as even an amateur.

>>2664363
>>2664400
>i made it
>no work yet desu
kill yourself.
she doesn't love you, and she is using you for your grandmothers money.
wake up.

>>2664244
your work. post

>>2664411
There isn't any anymore. It comprehensively finished me.

>>2664257
Selling drawings to furries

>>2664406
That could not be more hyperbolic. I'm fine. Calm down.

>>2664388
How good are you compared to this guy?

https://www.artstation.com/artist/chriscold

>>2664377
I think this has more charm than >>2664433

>>2664438
>charm

Who cares about charm? That guy is clearly better than >>2664377

>>2664444
>cares about charm? That guy is clearly better th
That isn't true, nor is it subjective

>>2664450
>being this deluded

You have such shit taste is astounds me. If you can't see how much better that guy is compared to >>2664377 then you aren't gonna make it.

>>2664453

Technically the guy is indeed on another level, but most of his art is just dark& edgy landscapes which gets boring fast. Not that anons art is ground breaking or anything, but I'll still throw a bone.

>>2664388
>I won't post anything because it can be traced back to me!

Do you post every single sketch or something?
What the fuck?
What does it matter even if you do?

>>2664464
>I don't like muh subject matter

Nobody cares. He is technically more impressive, and stylistically its more interesting. Anon's work is garbage that any medicore artist on deviant art could do.

>>2664464
>>2664453
>>2664467
Well they fulfil different needs

>>2664467

>Subject matter don't matter

Bro If I really craved realism so hard I'd like, just take walk or something

>stylistically, ect

Indeed, it wins hands down, but let's not go plucking baby birds feathers is what I'm saying

>>2664478
One is shit and one isn't.

>>2664483
So you admit his work is better? Good.

>>2664412

oh please, anyone can be a cake decorator.

>>2664382

oh shut the fuck up, believing in yourself is what naruto would do. wake up, you need to work harder and stop sitting in your comfort zone if you want to do art for a living. talent is what uninformed sheep say to other artists when talking about professional work.

>>2664499
>professional

That anon's work isn't even professional. It's medicore garbage.

>>2664486
>2664467
>>Subject matter don't matter
>Bro If I really craved realism so hard I'd like, just take walk or something
>>stylistically, ect
>Indeed, it wins hands down, but let's not go plucking baby birds feathers is what I'm saying
>>>
> Anonymous 09/04/16(Sun)01:09:34 No.2664486▶
>>>2664478 (You)
>One is shit and one isn't.
It's where you should stop

>>2664505
>liking shit work

Not gonna make it.

>>2664512
>Anonymous 09/04/16(Sun)01:22:25 No.2664505▶>>2664512
>>>2664486
>>2664467
>>>Subject matter don't matter
>>Bro If I really craved realism so hard I'd like, just take walk or something
>>>stylistically, ect
>>Indeed, it wins hands down, but let's not go plucking baby birds feathers is what I'm saying
>>>>
>> Anonymous 09/04/16(Sun)01:09:34 No.2664486▶
>>>>2664478 (You) (You)
>>One is shit and one isn't.
>It's where you should stop
>>>
> Anonymous 09/04/16(Sun)01:24:17 No.2664512▶
>>>2664505 (You)
>>liking shit work
>Not gonna make it.
It's where you should stop

Does just doing it for a living count as making it? I can afford food and my rent and have money left over for plenty of spare time entertainment, so I'm happy with my lot. I don't need more.

>>2664520
>greentexting everything like an autist

Kek

>>2664523
What do you do? Post work.

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>>2664530
I'm just a freelance Commission/Patreon artist who does porn and pinups, please don't bully me.

>>2664534
Good stuff anon. I like it.

Mine is pic related.>>2664377

>>2664501

you are right

>>2664536
It's got nice mood to it, I've always been poor at environments and I should knuckle down and improve those skillsets.

>>2664534

mediocre.

http://tenkdraws.tumblr.com/

https://www.patreon.com/TheTenk

>>2664550
H-hey now.

>>2664551

your nsfw blog is better, but you draw everything too clean.

>>2664534
Which reminds me I have to start doing press ups

>>2664552
Hopefully you mean that as in I should do more fluids and liquids in the smut, in which case I agree and I've been working on it.
Since with some people "too clean" could mean they want it to be more shadman-y.

>>2664377
I like it. Well done.

>>2664240
It's not that different. To "make it" objectively (comfort, money, respect, etc) you have to have a driving force to improve and grow that- guess what- doesn't go away when you "make it"! So you're in this great new place but you've cultivated this drive and now- whaddayaknow- you want to change and grow and move on more.

So the day to day is pretty much the same. You work, you make plans, you execute, you try to get better. Only difference is now maybe you go somewhere else to work and you have some money so you can be a bit more flexible.

Don't make some glistening pedestal out of "making it." It distracts you from the here and now you need to focus on to improve and figure your shit out. Work hard- and work on your mind and thinking too.

My making it credentials-
Studio job at 200+ employee studio. Team of 15-20 illustrators doing range of stuff from concepts to tight schematics. All subject matters. Six figure salary. Job security. Good projects. Good clients (studio did alot of consulting and hired design.) Cushy atmosphere. Realized I could just rise in the ranks here rest of my life after about a year. Knew complacency was setting in- saved up enough to live comfortably for a year and left. Freelance now. Many of the more experienced people I worked with have also left to pursue more personal things- even though they had "made it" many times over.

Good luck all.

>>2664565
What type of freelance do you do, and how do you go about getting it?

>>2664565
Post your work or someone who is the same level as you.

>>2664567
All sorts of stuff. Last gig was concepts for a fantasy game app. Do a lot of design for real world themed attractions as carry over from old job. Most jobs I've gotten so far are from friend connections from work and school. Hard to get traction online.

>>2664571
Hmm. Difficult to do because posting someone else's work gives weird impressions. Am I saying I finish like them? Concept like them? Draw like them? Do 3d like them? I would normally just say who I am but because I mentioned my salary that's not really fair to my old co workers. Remember the image cloud on the front page of cghub? I would say "small thumbnail" level on there. Haha. That's fucking stupid.

>>2664583
I mean just how good you are generally.

>>2664583
>Most jobs I've gotten so far are from friend connections from work and school. Hard to get traction online.
Oh damn. I've been having trouble getting work and I think a lot of that has to do with lack of connections.

>>2664240
DUDE IT'S JUST ANOTHER JOB. IT'S NOT THAT GREAT.Enjoy the your process in the mean time.

>>2664327
>>2664340
I agree with this anon

self deprecating artists make best stuff (not because edgy just drive to improve)

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>>2664583
>>2664587

thank fuck i'm going to an art based uni for 3 years. all i have to do is git gud, be cool with people across a load of courses and i'll be making the big bux

>>2664907
>art
>making big bux

Good luck with that anon. The vast majority of freelancers are lucky to clear 70K after taxes.

>>2664916
idk about you but 70k is big to me if we're talking $$$

>>2664934
>lucky to

That means more often than not they aren't clearing that, and that's after years of building a portfolio and clientele.

>>2664583
can i add you on skype/discord :< and you help me whip a portfolio into shape

>>2664943
i'll take my chances

>>2664678
Yep. It was kind of a revelation for me. So, it's not like you "made it" and that's it. No one will give you money just because you got good and have the skills. You always have to deliver something in exchange and it's not always something that you really want or enjoy to do. So, in this sense it's really just another job.

>>2664305
i admire people who like their art. i can only hope someday to be even halfway to liking my own
maybe then ill start to enjoy it again

>>2664244
Thank you for crushing my spirit anon.

>>2664244
But you can make art.

>>2665130
Yeah but I want to build a Volkswagen
:/

>>2665069
sucks to be you, my art is the bees knees

>>2665275
Cheers, so is mine

>>2664534
Pretty good shit. If you can live comfortably and you're happy with where you're at, you probably made it.

>>2664680
that's a lie and you know it

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I got good enough to get laid with a new girl once a week.
Is that made it? I know its shallow but I'm happy.

>>2665595
Post work, wanna see what's considered good enough

>>2665595
doubt it's your art getting you laid

>>2665551
or rather, "improve or burn out the fastest"

>>2664550
>$500 p/month for drawing those pieces of shit
>commission prices higher than Kyle
the fuck is wrong with this world

>>2664240

>made it
>>to the dumpster kek

>>2665595
teach us the ways of gettin that pussy dawg.

I din´t *made it*, just have a big improvement, but bad habits never disappear, so im still keeping a bunch of unfinished drawings that will never be seen by anyone else.

>>2664305
Literally 90% of artists hate their own art. The ones that don't live like kings off of it and there's STILL a good chance they hate it and want to improve. Were you living under a rock?

>>2665622
Skill isn't a major factor, man.

>>2664240
Literally none of you guys are going to make it. I am the only exception here. Maybe one other. I doubt it though.

>>2668044
aw man dont tell me i have to kiss ass to make a buck

>>2668071
It's just about finding a customer base, either through fandoms or fetishes or just type of style. Worked for me.

>>2668048
kek it's not a 'only one of us can make it' deal, probably all of us have the potential to make it, it's just you decide if you put in the work necessary

New Blobby Chiu vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr3hHtC2YZw

>>2668120
It really is only one of us can make it. If you don't believe it, I'll be here ten years from now.

>>2664327
You don't have to hate your art. You just always try to get better, even if you love your style.