Gesture thread

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>>2647173
Went a bit too far with contour lines on those.

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>>2647179
>>2647173
>>2647169

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Kinda old but this is how I gesture now.

fuck off ricky

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>>2647238
This has got to be the worst bait thread attempt to get sensei to notice his pathetic gakusei. If you really want to gesture battle me then just make the hangout already.

Otherwise you're wasting your own time (and mine) because I'm a very very busy man.

GESTURE BATTLE!!

>>2647166
Ohh good thread. Gonna spend most of today and this week in general working on gesture and figure drawing

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Gesture challenge:
>Draw gesture of Bruce Lee so expressive that we can tell it's him.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCdbIDiib5U
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9PkOR7kCrQ

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Another challange:
>Draw an animal of your choice doing the roundhouse kick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tizmEfIl-YQ

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Another challange:
>Draw the final frame (impact) of pic related

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r8 quickie

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What is this "gesture battle" meme?

>>2647505
Hi teal

>>2647505
you uh... battle with gestures?
fight me >>2647372

>>2647509
Those are not gestures kiddo

>>2647515
Your mom is not gesture

>>2647499
looks good Steve

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>>2647515
sure they are. gestures are about drawing the pose, maybe went into too much detail but eh, google "gesture drawings" and you get more detailed stuff like this too

>>2647517
R-rude

>>2647238
shut up lahey

>>2647499
I love it

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I really like rock musicians as a source of gesture poses. Watch a live performance of any band and you can get a good deal of drawing from them.

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>>2647524
2 minutes is far too long for a gesture. Those are figure drawings.

A figure can have a nice gesture, but a figure is not in itself
a gesture. It's about quickly getting the movement and idea down. The term is simply widely misused by many artists.

Read this. And Vilppu, when you get the chance.

http://www.arts.rpi.edu/~ruiz/AdvancedDigitalImagingSpring2016/ReadingsADI/Gesture%20Drawing.htm

>>2649970

Hey kid, nobody patented what gesture means--not even Vilppu. A gesture can take 2 minutes, 5 minutes even 10 minutes stretching it. What's widely misused is your parroting and spewing retardation of the miscommunication of the ideas you read in your pirated textbooks.

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Bargue gesture study

>>2650026
Alright anon, continue to do what you're doing. No skin off my back.

>>2650161
Bitch I'm a gesture master I don't even need 2 minutes I'm just telling you like it is cause you stupid as fuck.

>>2650162
finally someone posted gestures in the thread i was getting hungry

gj gabe

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>>2650162
>those meaty back muscles

Fuark

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>>2650168
>getting recognized by gestures
what the freakin heck

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>>2650168
These aren't gestures, these are figure studies. Learn the difference

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>>2650181
learn 2 gesture pleb

>>2650182
you're right but they are still the closest/best posted in this thread. I just get excited anytime I see him post.


I really like those too.

>>2650186
don't be rude 2 gabe man

it doesn't matter what it's called it's good ok

language is subjective

>>2650189
good is subjective

i beg to differ

>>2650132
real fuckin nice

>>2650132
>Thats not a gesture it's an articulated construct but excellent line work
Also don't die mum

>>2649970
Have you ever seen Vilppu do gesture drawings?
He very rarely goes under 1 minute, and in the drawing manual videos, he explicitly says multiple times that you should draw slowly.

>>2650198
You're right, anon. I was thinking of the very basic gesture. It was wrong of me to say that you can't go over 2 minutes.

I was focusing too much on the wrong things, such as how spending too much time can make you lose track of the initial movements and start constructing or adding too much detail.

If it takes someone that long then it takes them that long.

>>2650132
cunt. Not even a gesture drawing

>>2650132
I was going to say something nice about your work, until I noticed that you use such underhand tactics to get (you)s

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I did these awhile ago but someone will say if I did it all wrong

>>2647499
nice my dude

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>>2650165

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>>2650198
Depends. If you're a beginner, you should do them fast to avoid overthinking. Vilppu doesn't have that problem, so he can do gestures almost like a meditation.
>pic related

>>2652086
Not that anon but vilppu still emphasis that gesture isn't about speed. Regardless of what other sources say I'd rather trust vilppu.
Anytime I've done timed gestures I learn less than taking the time to analyze the figure and 'feel' my way through the pose.

>>2652086
>If you're a beginner, you should do them fast to avoid overthinking.

Especially as beginner you should slow down, analyze the figure and think before you draw. 99% of the time, the problem isn't overthinking but not enough thinking.

>>2650132
goddamnit

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>>2652086
>in practice

Take a moment and ponder what that means. In practice means In the God damn classroom. When you are drawing for yourself nobody is looking over your shoulder.

The Gesture gestapo isn't going to bust down your door for going over 30 seconds. You aren't competing for the gesture Olympics. In >>practice<< means in the classroom, with a live model, exercise, warm-up; to draw without fumbling about accuracy or line placement, to let go about mistakes.

Take my advice for your sake: learn to think critically about things.

When should I learn gesture?

>>2652122

Rhythms should be taught as a basic tool in any beginner drawing class. You are essentially learning about gesture long before you touch figure drawing, it isn't exclusive.

say I'd use this pictures as reference and you could obviously backtrack the source, would i get into trouble if i use this for a small comic?
(want to draw some women fighting though)

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>>2652122
After you learn to hold your pencil, control it and draw long lines with confidence. Call me a faggot but I found Hampton's explanation of gesture to be more helpful than Vilppu's, especially if you're starting out. He seems.. more systematic.

>>2652101
What do you mean by other sources? That picture is taken straight out of Vilppu's drawing manual.

>>2652109
I don't know about your experience, but from what I've seen and tried so far, beginners almost always struggle with simplifying. If you give them enough time, they'll start drawing short strokes, contours and details.
After you learn to simplify the form, too much/not enough time doesn't play a role in the quality of your drawing.

>>2652119
I honestly don't know what your advice is, the 30 secs is just a recommendation for beginners to learn efficiently.
Besides, there isn't much difference between a classroom and learning on your own. If the teacher knew the students need more time, he'd give them more time.

>>2652305
>from what I've seen and tried so far, beginners almost always struggle with simplifying. If you give them enough time, they'll start drawing short strokes, contours and details.

To properly simplify requires you to analyze what it is you are trying to simplify, otherwise you are just scribbling in a hurry. If you never take your time to think about the simplification process and the rhythm of the body you are trying to find, then you will never understand how to do it and all those 20 second gestures are doing is reinforce your mistakes and bad habits over and over again.

>>2652545
I think I see your point of view, but can't agree with what you're saying. When analyzing,
>your brain notices the big shapes first
>moves on to analyzing the smaller ones
You shouldn't allow your brain to get to the second step - by not giving it enough time to manage both steps. That way you only capture the essense, the big story.

Obviously you don't need the time limit if you can stop before the second step on your own, but you can't do that until you train your brain at simplifying form.

About reinforcing your mistakes and bad habits - you should always, always analyze your drawings afterwards for any mistakes, no matter how good you are. That's a general rule.

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>>2647476
that improper rotation of the hips

I do secretly love that we have this heated debate about the definition of gesture here. This is the kind of discussion that encourages critical thinking and coming up with your own definitions. Thanks /ic/!

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>>2652670
Agreed, we should do threads about various aspects of art to think and actually help people, it's still gonna be better than eastern and western comics shitting on each other, chink artist memes or debating whether or not Picasso was a faggot.

>muh synergy meme

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>>2647475
did i do good

>>2647499
not yours lmao

>>2654654
Yes.

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>>2647553
r8 h8 masturb8

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half from imagination half from reference

>>2655837
>half from imagination
>half from reference

And all shit

>>2655839
still waiting for your entry on the gesture battle faggot.

>>2655851
not that anon

>>2652670

These are the best threads on this board. It's nice to see actual intelligent debate.

>>2654654
ye

>>2656826
>actual intelligent debate.
That never happened

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>>2647169
Feedback please

>>2658460
Not bad, but it's more a figure drawing than a gesture drawing, you might find it very difficult to invent a pose from your imagination using this technique.

When doing a gesture, try to work more abstractly, draw the relationships of the forms instead of the forms themselves. Muscles of the leg don't work separately, they work in a single motion with a purpose of hitting that motherfucker as hard as possible. Think about where did that leg start moving from and don't break that motion and continuity.

>>2654654
It looks like Lucky from King of the Hill.

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made some drawings, any tips?

>>2660267
you're not feeling it anon

>>2652101
>>2652109
>>2652119

>Not being able to draw SIX lines in less than two minutes.

Holy fucking shit, you're the actual definition of "Retarded".

>>2647499
didn't know you browsed /ic/ Bellows

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>>2660422

You assume a 1 pattern pony method works for every situation but you can be nothing but incorrect. Such is to be expected from someone on a lower caliber of intelligence.

>>2660422
Sure, if all you ever do is quick warm up scribbles where you only define the spine and the limbs. But I doubt there's much to be learnt from that after a certain point Proper gestures are far more than 6 lines and require a lot more thinking. I feel like a lot of people love to oversimplify what they deem counts as gesture because then they don't have to think critically about what they are drawing and just fall back to this "It's just a gesture" excuse.

>>2661715

Not gestures

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fun fun fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiQ3RzSKTuU

>tfw master vilppu will never feel your forms in front of the whole class

>tfw when you just sold a bunch of gesture drawings for 300 bux

Feels good man
Feels real good

>>2647499
Why is he wearing a thong?

Was it rape /ic/?

ITT: potential gay porn artists

>>2647166

is this the thread for the battles?
anyone up for a gesture battle?

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>>2664695