Art Progress

>>2642772
>those gun designs
Gross.

>>2642772

I like the 2015 one better

>>2642772
Yea, I hate to say it, but I find the 2015 ones better senpai

>>2642772
While 2016 image is more rendered, the 2015 ones have superior gesture, which makes them overall better.

>>2642772
Yeah 2015 ones are better.

Better shapes.

>>2642772
Anyone else prefer the 2015 version?

>>2642772
this may seem like a strange opinion but does anyone else think the 2015 one is better?

>>2642772
Okay I was gonna say all these guys were trolling but then I realized that the top one is 2016
im gonna have to agree 2015 is better

I have to say something I never wanted to say ever bvut I like the 2015 version better.

>>2642772
I thought the top one was older.

2015 is way superior

Nice bait, OP.

>>2642772
>Art Regress

>>2642772
]: Dude I don't know if it was because of how you set it up, but I thought 2015 was better. There's actually hardly any difference, but 2015 is clearer and the build of the character's is much better, the gesture is more natural.

>>2642772
wow, the regression...

Holy fuck, I've never seen samefagging this hard.

>>2643712
The thread has 16 replies and 17 posters...it's not samefagging. It's probably just a troll thread anyhow where the dates are switched since 2015 is clearly better.

>>2643723
>da website clearly says that there's 17 posters!!!!!!! there's no possible way that they can still samefag!!!!

>>2643729
Yea, because a bunch of anons would go through the effort of ip jumping to tell Op what is clearly there

>>2642772
You somehow degradated?
Your sense of form, design and even values minus the blending rendering itslef got worse.

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>>2643712
>>2643729
unprecedented amounts of autism

it must suck to not have a friend group growing up

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>scrolling through goybook
>find new anime I didn't know about
>add to backlog
>keep scrolling
>see this

Guide me Jesus through the night and wake me with the morning light for my sides will not make it.

>>2645377
At least she improved

>>2645380
Shes like 30 something; all the more reasons why 25 is the cut off age.

>>2645394
nice meme faggot

>>2645394
if she's 30 now, she would've been 18 when she started...

>>2645380
Better than stagnating for 12 years I suppose.

>>2643039
Nigga you have no idea what the fuck youre talking about lool

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>>2648206

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Three year progress. I know the right arm is looking wonky.

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Here's a couple of girls I've drawn throughout the past week. Let's have it some criticism.

>>2649230
>three years of progress
>still can't feet and hands right
No, no excuses, I recognize that wonkiness in feet and hands, it's literally
>I have never done an extensive hand and feet study
problem

Sit down and start drawing them hands and feet from all angles in all sorts of finger bending ways, for a month or something.

2015 is better senpai, the top ones have wierd stilted gestures and the color design is a lot less aesthetic than the values of the bottom.

>>2649230
blog?

>>2649317
Pretty cute values senpai

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>>2649354
This makes me feel bad

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>>2649354
First one is pretty good for 2004. In a weird way it kind of captures the zeitgeist of that era.

>>2649361
This. They kinda sucked at rendering and values and shit, but they had a very solid base already. That lineart and and comp are quite good for a "beginner."

It's no wonder their later stuff took such a leap. They already had a good lifetime of drawing from imagination and stuff.

>>2649354
what're they like in 2016

>>2649359
Why? It should motivate you to work harder. Your only limiter is yourself.

>>2649374
this

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I bought a cintiq 22hd in 2013...so yeah, it makes things easier.

>>2649390
this looks like maybe 1 month of progress...

>>2642772
You got worse. Your rendering is cleaner but the designs have lost character, it's way too dark I can't see any of the details, the use of gimmicky effects is really distracting like the way you've done the shadows and the glaring lights. The pose looks like they're trying to piss out of their guns and their legs look very flimsy

>>2649230
You also got worse, the feet in the first image look really nice but in the second image it looks like you traced them from the sketch without really caring, your hands got worse, the clothing has lost texture, the hair looks like it's floating in space

>>2649317
You've made great progress your values and edge control are nice but be careful with all that composition it's looks like fengzhu, not every landscape has to be perfectly constructed to fit the camera and focus on the subject matter, sometimes a poor composition in some aspects can make the image more realistic

>>2649354
You've gotten better at all technical aspects of art but you've neglected character. the first and second images characters look really interesting and memorable like they have a personality and story and you want to know more about them but the third image is just a girl with a gun, you don't care who's shooting at her, what she does or anything

>>2649390
You spent so much time smoking weed instead of focusing on improving that you've made only a few months worth of progress in 5 years. No need to feel upset you can't undo the past just focus on making the most out of the future, go study

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ahhhhhhh back when I was still a brony fgt

>>2649547

>being into ponies anytime past season 3

EW

>>2649571
Season 1 and 2 are utter shit m8.
4-later are really good.

>>2649580
wow senpai it's totally the other way around I bet you watched eqg

>>2649586
I did.
EQG 1 was just bad and boring, (not to mention shit looking, since they had to do it from the ground up, like the animation errors on S1)
2 was meh. I forgot about it after 5 minutes.
3 Was probably the best, that is in the beginning, it started strong but lose steam with the running time, and just became worse and more boring than 2. It had the best song of the entire franchise tho ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzSwC9HkNxI ).
I don't know about more movies. Haven't been really into anything related since I dedicated to git gud.

>>2649547
>>2649571
>>2649580
>>2649586
>>2649590
neither of you will make it

>>2649547
>3 years
Niggeeeerr what are you doin???

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I'm happy working full time hasn't stopped my progress

>>2650068
lel

>>2645394
>25 is the cut off age.
is.. is this true?

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it's been 2 years since I started drawing. I just don't know anymore I feel like I need some guidance.

>>2649540
I think you're just mad.

>>2650237
Don't believe these faggots anon, art can be learned at all ages.
(Of course you'll probably never reach someone that has been practicing since an earlier age)

>>2650285
What if I practice 10 hours a day?

>>2650286
Then you'll evolve faster than those who practiced much less. Plenty of people have "drawn their whole lives" and by that they mean they picked up a pencil once in a while and doodled shit.

You can also cook your own meals your whole life and never improve too if you don't make the effort.

You can stand far above many other artists just by practicing at all.

>>2650237
No, it's a myth.

>>2650375
says the 25 year old past his prime

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This is kinda nit-picky

>>2642772

2016 is better in terms of anatomy, but the 2015 poses are much more fitting.

>>2650630
Holy shit that decline in ability.

I want an "art decline" thread now.

>>2649540
>You've gotten better at all technical aspects of art but you've neglected character. the first and second images characters look really interesting and memorable like they have a personality and story
every damn time.
I bet you are 16y/o tumblr

>>2649230
I hope left is the modern one, because if not, you got worse
>man shoulders (literally, womans have 2 head lenght, man have 3)
>Shittier lineart
>Your flat rendering and coloring looks better

>>2650237

>>2650293 is right, I've been drawing since I'm a kid but never practiced everyday like a chore.
Good thing I'm good at learning, If I had the motivation and the discipline to work 8 hours a day like said some meme gook, I would make huge amounts of progress.

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>>2649369
Its marek okon, he still keeps a deviant art page with all that older stuff on it
heres one he recently did

>>2651022
It triggers me his characters don't match his bgs

>>2651022
Thats 4 to 5 years old

>>2650269
atleast you studied a bit of baroque drawing. You got down the basic proportion measurement. What you lack the most is applying concepts and practice. Please read more art books from the sticky.

>>2650663
you're blind.

>>2654868
no u

>>2650630
what the fuck
please go back to your roots

>>2650857
>study fourteen hours every day for a week
>take six month break
every time

>>2650630
So did you get uglier or did you just get worse?

please post more of these, even not yours, they really motivate me

>>2655261
Hah!

>>2642776
This

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the biggest change is the lost facination with mermaids i think

>>2650692
No, he's fairly right dude. Look at the pose on the last one, the silhouette. It's just the fucking Charlies Angel pose with a larger gun. Her face looks like she's ready for someone to take her picture. the first one has emotion, a great silhouette. Look at the drawings and the details: you can create a story by looking at them. Even the 2nd one has a strange mix of scifi and fantasy; kinda reminds me of DMC. Sadly the last one does not have much of a story other than... i guess she's being shot at and has stuff falling in the background? She's got some things on her wrists? Despite all the movement in the background she looks completely still, with no wind, while reloading a bullpup rifle. The magazine being reloaded is wider than the open pouch on her side.

tl;dr

>>2655549
>It's just the fucking Charlies Angel pose with a larger gun
I guess that's what he was going for? Holy shit dude

>>2649540
>>2655549
>>2655575

Those are book covers (the ones from 2007 and 2009) so he didn't paint girls with large guns out of his personal preference, he just did what the publisher asked him to do.

So dont hate on his ideas..

does anyone have some really impressive progress pics from d/ic/ks?

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>>2655674

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>>2655467
did you post that top image in an art group on fb? if so, hei :^)

>>2650630
I think you could push the caricature more.

People are probably shitting on this because they think you weren't intending the E.T. head. (I felt it should be obvious from the hat balancing on your head lump)

Also your values are all pretty low, you need a bit more contrast to make your images pop.

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>>2655872
Very solid progress anon.

>>2655261
kek

>>2649230
Do you have some way I can contact you? I love your style and I'm looking to commission an artist for something small

>>2650630
fucking kek

>>2657199
Do you do other stuff with pen?

why don't these people organize a conspiracy where they list monthly pictures when really there was a six month gap between them?

>>2657536
Do mean like inking or like a pen and tablet

>>2657199
I know its been echoed a lot here, but you should try photo realism before developing an animu style. I won't claim to be any good, but when I tried this approach to faces, after just a few weeks I found I could draw faces of all styles better.

Its all a matter of understanding what forms you're simplifying with the style.

>>2650068
i like the first one better

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>>2658396
Yeah I do a few realistic figure drawings every once in a while, but definitely not as much as I should.

>>2655872
mirin

>>2655386
Man, this gets me every time. The lack of self-awareness is truly astounding.

>>2655872
the more i look at this the more i like it, nice job man

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im posting it...again!!!

>>2658836
Jesus christ Gabe what's with that demon's dick in 2012?

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Just fuck my shit up.

>>2660033
That's some nice improvement, dude! Keep it up!

>>2660033
Berry nide :DD

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i hope its at least a little bit ahhhhhh
really need to work more on landscapes rather than just people though

>>2660033
the guy with the blue mask thing looks pretty cool dude

>>2655872
yes, no dox pls :~(
Faen du er flink

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Here's my progress from 2015-2016

for anyone who cares, here's an imgur link to all the works in this picture in its original resolution.
http://imgur.com/a/1t1nd

>>2660120
I really like the 2016 portrait, the posterized look is very interesting.

>>2655682
blog/tumblr?

>>2661355
nevermind, found it

http://thorstendenk.tumblr.com/

>>2661357
How old is this guy

>>2661359
Dot is in his mid twenties, I believe

>>2661543
>tfw I'll hit 20 years old in a few months
Fuuuuuuug

>>2660268
takk min mann! skal ikke doxxe deg ;^))

>>2660033
Teach me senpai
>>2660120
>post-tumblr cleansing: the image
>>2661660
Try 22 or 25, then you should be worried

>>2662324
I'd argue age before 35 doesn't really matter. Quite the opposite, with age comes taste and thus better artwork content.

>>2662324
>post-tumblr cleansing: the image
actually kekd

>>2655242
try studying fourteen hours a week for seven weeks instead

>>2660520
the progress are there, but than again work on real stuff first than develop your own style, of comic anime whatever

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ITT

People practicing rendering lost their basic figure sketching abilities

>>2658836
I wanna be like you gaben

>>2649354
This is blatant photobashing though

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I did this list back then in 2014, didn't touch it again. Wanted to redo 2014 part, but got kinda lazy. 2015 was mostly studies. 2016 is a tough year, (almost quit a couple of times), but also had a minor breaktrough.

also critic on couple of latest pieces was detailed and helpful, so thx to anon.

>>2664974
There seems to be a huge difference between your imagination work and you referenced work

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>>2664757
i'm a prime example lmao

>>2661660
never gonna make it

>>2661660
You and me will make it, anon.

>>2666112
Doesn't seem bad.
Try doing a barebones sketch and put it by side a previous one

>>2666112
you weren't that good in the first place

>>2664881
>if I can't do it nobody can

>>2666222
>that good
i wasn't good at all

>>2666112
how do you do color that is the thing that gets me abt digital painting..... i literally suck

>>2666264
it took me so long to understand how to colour
i usually just wing it, start with a base layer and value, and just pile on top. I usually start with my darks and midtones, then I add the highlights later. Then it's just about adding hue changes to make it look realistic.

>>2660268
norsk artgruppe?

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2 year improvement. Dropping the anime was a good idea

>>2666370
Huh..pretty gud progress

Seems like an okay thread to ask.

What's /ic/'s attitude towards recruiting artists? The sticky isn't clear. I'm hunting around for a concept artist for some vidya

>>2666411
we like money

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sketch and rough contrast plan for pic im going to do, sry for potatoe quality photo

>>2666418
that's pretty awesome, anon, kee it up

>>2666418
But what can we compare that to?

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4xis should update this.

>>2666370
now drop that edgy bullshit and youll make it son

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found this on the wetcanvas forums, this is apparently before & after an online villpu course

>>2667421
Why is their style super weird after? Does Vilppu do that to you?
Also
>January to May
>4 months
Seems reasonable enough.

>>2667421
>4 months
It looks his models aged 40 years

>>2667421
so how does 2016 look?

>>2667472
Some say it's just wrinkles

>>2667444
>>2667476
He learned how to draw contour from ref but can't into hatching. Also Guilty of thinking digital is traditional.

Bet his drawing from imagination is still pretty poor.

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>>2667472
found this by the same person

>>2666411
Make sure you have enough to pay, art takes time to do and we need to eat. Maybe if it's allowed you can make a post here with your contact info and some little info about the project. I am actually interested..

>>2655467
You learned to draw tacky basic bitches in halloween gear.
Some of you people need to get out of your comfort zone already

>>2666815
Quite the jump from 2014 to 2015.
Wondering what he did in that year.

>>2667476
kkeek

>>2666815
jelly

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>>2666815
>2015

mirin' that whole year

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i think i am done drawing for a while. Here is one last update for the road...

>>2668836
You are quitting? Why? I love your shizz.

>>2668836
don't stop

>>2668836
another one bites the dust

>>2649571
>>2649580

>there are 2 horsefuckers in this thread
Glad Im not alone

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>>2669288
Make that three, my nigga~

>>2669325
I like your octopus men

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i did finish this one but i never hit it with photoshop sadly would have loved to fix it up more and her head came out slightly weird than i wanted it to. not much to look at but the first and last pictures were about a yr apart

>>2669351
Tell me about your journey, senpai, how did you make it this far? You're one of my favorite artists on /ic/

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>>2669351
one of my fav landscape refs at the end there

>>2669351
>Giantoanon has been drawing giants since 2007
That's some serious dedication.

>>2670289
What an odd way to spell autism

>>2670566
same difference

>>2669278
>>2669275
>>2669270
drawing hasn't felt as magical recently, and I've been aimlessly practicing without a clear goal.

im going to try some app programming which has more concrete deliverables. Also, my job became less technical so I have a different itch to scratch now.

>>2670289
>>2670566
>>2670567

I envy him.

I have so many days of "I don't know what to draw, I don't feel like anything, I guess I'll just study" and it usually leads to forced crap. I'd love to have a subject matter I enjoy to the point I could do it for nearly a decade and not get bored of it.

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Slowed down a lot in 2016 once I'd gotten over the initial hurdle and didn't practice as deliberately. Dose plateau feels.

My imagination stuff is still mostly trash tier though, and I've had the problem that I tend not to spend longer than 1 or 2 hours on any given project.

>>2671081
envy

>>2671009
Aww man that sucks. I really liked your drawings, especially your robots. But I guess if you want to do something different then go for it.

>>2669351
You're an inspiration, giant loli anon

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here's mine

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>>2671729
Lookin gud, poison

>>2648206
2015 pose looks like the guy is cupping his balls and holding his dick and a gun has just been superimposed on top.

>>2671759
Nevermind, I got them around the wrong way. The 2016 version is the dick holding pose. Jesus.

>>2671729
It bothers me that while it looks pretty decent, your poses are all the same.

>>2671735
im definitely seeing improvement here anon
anatomy is still a bit wonky + armor shapes but rendering has gotten really good

>>2671819
I dig it. Also if this is you, how does 2016 look?

>>2671735
Good job dude, but your drawing skills are definitely underdeveloped compared to your painting skill.
Keep working

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I can never move past the sketch phase, I keep getting bored and moving on

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Hey I haven't drawn much these years, mostly one drawing a week.

>>2672668
same

>>2672668
then you're missing passion

why even bother if there's no passion

>>2657199
kuso ttk?

>>2673371
pretty

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>Be pencil and paper fag
>Got art programs but I feel like mastering the basic is much better since fag
>Looking at models of female anatomy drawing
>art work is getting better by a percent
>wanting to save up money for adobe, so to scan, ink, and color.
>Don't know if that's the process but sure

My face when I am making somewhat progress

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>>2673480
>save up money for adobe

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>>2673371

>>2673480

chinks and japs use paint tool sai.

You can also get the cloud version of adobe. I just pay 10 pound month.

>>2673528
KEK

>>2671081
good job anon

>>2673529
They also use photoshop, it's half and half with some occasional clip studio.

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>>2673366
I don't think I have ever heard that term before surprisingly. Does that mean I'am a bad ttk?

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Had to find a new hobby for the summer. Wish I had more time to study art but I have to do other work
Here's hoping I don't stop

>>2674551
whew lad

>tfw no "good job anon" (You)

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>>2674749

good job anon

>>2674749
>>2670284

aww thank you was kinda sad i didnt get a criteque :(
but was like oh wells guess its just too shit for a review

>>2660520
ease down on the composition there
not everything has to be full black to white contrast

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how the fuck are these people improving so fucking fast

>>2675451
It's not real. These people find a technique and exploit it. After repeatedly doing it they get gud at that technique. But the reality is they have limited themselves to only doing that technique well enough.

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>>2675466
>"I'm justifying my mediocrity by stating that they are not really good"
Haven't crossed your mind that maybe you just suck

>>2675466
see
>>2666815
>>2655872
>>2658836
>>2664974
>>2666370
>>2671081
>>2671729
>>2671735
>>2671819

>>2671081
literally everyone slows down after about 3-5 years. it becomes exponentially harder to improve your art the better you get.

I forget where I heard this but it's true. "Everyone is exceptionally talented at the age of 25".

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I... I'm not gonna make it

>>2675889
not with that attitude , learn the fundies anon, draw every day for at least 3 hours or something longer if you can. do it even if you dont feel like it . if you want to make it you will. but you gotta work your damn ass off..

>>2675889
The 2011 one is better.

>>2675498
And they all prove my point. Thank you and you're welcome.

>>2670285
Deviantart faget from 2007 to 2009, which was when i discovered /ic/. However I could only draw for barely a few months because of my country's mandatory conscription from 2010 to mid 2012, it was then I got a job and started grinding my ass off everyday.

>>2676394
>my country's mandatory conscription
Yikes. Cool to see you kept it up over the years

>>2655467
cringe thread

>>2669325
i remember the octopus duo

>>2676147

What do you mean when you say "one technique"? Are you suggesting all artists should use every possible medium? Or that specialising in an area of interest / aesthetic one enjoys is the wrong way to approach it? Can you give me a few examples of what "techniques" the artists that prove your point use?

Your "point" is so vague that literally any example could "prove it", provide some criteria, give us a metric.

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trying to get into realistic digital, image related beginning of drawing - end of drawing
not sure how to make metal shine

>>2679501
Get some reference of polished armor to see how it reflects. It mostly is like a dulled mirror so will show the surroundings and will look slightly different depending on the environment the character is in.

>>2679501
this thread is not about your current wips

>>2679508
its not a wip, the right is finished...
instead of showing years of progress i just showed a week or so

imho the biggest problem with people not improving in art is the general lack of objective.

For most of us, we don't draw with the explicit intent of getting better at drawing. We wanted to draw something and we did, whether we're happy or not with the result doesn't matter and acquiring experience or skill is just a logical side-effect.

I'm pretty sure that anybody here who has a few months of drawing even at leisure knows that one thing or other any artist must do to improve. Be it drawing from real life, studying perspective, drawing hands or feet over and over, analyzing another artist's work, or even watching some China guy babble on Youtube.

The difference we see in these "art progress" threads is that the people who improved vastly through the years had the objective of getting improving in sight and those who did not had other things in mind.

Personally, I think you can draw 8 hours a day for a thousand years and your sonic drawings will still look like shit if you focused only in what you wanted to draw and never what you wanted the finished drawing to look like.

>>2679600
you are right anon.

>>2666296
yep
gruppa for alle tegneglade

>>2679600

I'd agree with this. To elaborate though even "git gud" or "get a job in the industry" isn't a strong enough goal on its own. You need clear, measurable goals.

It helps a lot to set monthly goals that contribute towards your big end goal. If you want to git gud, identify your weak points and at the beginning of each month set an objective, like "15 hours of perspective studies" or "read 3 books on perspective". This sort of stuff gives you something concrete to work on and a sense of achievement when you reach it, whereas "become a good artist" is nebulous and your idea of what a good artist is (and what standards you hold yourself to) is probably going to change as you go. God knows I aspired to emulate some pretty mediocre artists when I started, because I didn't have any eye for quality.

>>2681040
>15 hours of perspective studies
Even this is way too vague. I mean it is something you can do, but you need a concrete goal, what is going to be the use of those 15 hours of perspective study?
I'm thinking something along the lines of "being able to create an image in three point perspective with multiple boxes at different angles, overlapping" or "create an image of a busy marketplace from bird's view with primary focus on correct perspective".
Then you have something you can actually check on, an application.
Study with a specific goal like this in mind, so you know which information to prioritize or else all is just noise.
Or you know, whatever, I don't even know.

>>2681056

I don't disagree that you can narrow the criteria for a goal further. Different people will probably have different levels of specificity they're comfortable with.

I set monthly goals that are flexible but relatively concrete - I know what constitutes practicing perspective and I know for sure when I've done 15 hours of it (as long as I keep track). What to do within that criteria I can choose day to day depending on how I feel.

Day by day I might set goals like your example, a specific project to work on that hones perspective skills.

My theory (well it's not "my" theory, I've picked it up from elsewhere) is that productivity is all about setting up concrete goals and then breaking those goals down into measurable objectives. Both my example and your example are measurable, but yours is more specific, which can be good for a short term but maybe a bit restrictive for a month's worth of application (IE a month of bird's eye view practice). Having a big, overarching goal that's a bit more vague (like "make it") is fine as long as you don't leave it there.