Alternative Art/Stylization General

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repost then

>>2636282
I feel like there's something wrong with both her arms and her legs but I'm not good enough to explain you why.

>>2636282
>>2636309
the perspective and forshortening is way off, her left arm is stiff

>my drawing didn't make it in

one day...

>>2636282
Needs more blue

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Not satisfied with the colours so will probably re-do eventually

>>2636462
looks nice, makes me think of the new prophet comic (the one by brandon graham) and its influences

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Studying

>>2636633
hngg muh dick!

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little character thing

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idek where this is going

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Now onto coloring.

>>2636791
Your proportions are super off. Her ass looks like a saggy diaper, and her arms go from short to gorilla long. That hand on the front view looks awful, the thumb is so disproportionate from the rest of the fingers, why did you copy-paste that before fixing it? On the profile view, her ears connect to her jaw, but they don't actually connect there when she's facing forward. It's kind of like both views have been stretched out and squashed in some areas.

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desu im just scribbling edgy shit off the top of my head

>>2636853
That thumb is small yeah, while the side views' arm is longer, I don't think it's nearly as exaggerated as you're suggesting.

Thanks for the feedback.

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>>2636873
No, but gorilla long is what it feels like.

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>>2635217

i posted this on last thread but then i decided to come back to it for a bit and fix some line clusterfucks but its still kinda bleh on that aspect

>>2636833
into the trash I hope.

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>>2636839
some fixed ur faces

>>2636973
I actually like his more, is more simplistic sure but more appealing to me.
Your lines are much better tho

>>2636973
Not that anon, but that's not so much a fix as it is just a stylistic choice change. You just made her face more round than sharp.

>>2636973
that's awful.

>>2636861
Pretty cool man, I'd read a comic in that style.

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How does this look? PLEASE be honest, I want all the critique you guys can throw at me. I know the background is shit, focus on the girl.

>>2637031
sorry to say this anon, but its a slightly polished turd.

Her pose is unbelievably stiff and the anatomy is wonky AT BEST (seriously, look at that broken left hand). Her face is very poor as well; the eyes are too close and the nose and mouth are just as much of a mess.

AND JESUS HARAMBE CHRIST, THAT MANNECK

4.3/11 desu, go back to doing your fundamentals. Also, sorry for my poor English.

>>2637038
Thanks, artfam. I really do appreciate it, honest.

>>2637041
Don't beat yourself about it anon, sucking at something is the first step to being kinda good at something (seriously, look at some of the progression threads in the archives) :)

>>2637045
I will beat myself up about it. I need to be better. I don't think I suck, I'm certainly better than many others I have seen. But there are an equal number of people that are far better than I am. I feel like I'm in the middle. I should be better. I will be better.

>>2637051
that's the spirit, don't lose it. k?

>>2637054
I will never lose my spirit. There is too much to learn, too much to do, and not enough time to accomplish it all. I will make something of myself with my art, goddammit. /ic/ be damned.

>>2636973
BLOG
L
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Hot glue

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>>2637060

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>>2636839
>>2636973
Thanks to the feedback I saw an issue with her face somehow, though the fix was a bit drastic for my style.

Maybe this is a bit better? Really annoying to adjust lineworks in the middle of the coloring.

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>>2637020
yo thanks man, its not what i'd usually do but im thinking to practice it for a while

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When I posted the original sketch in the last thread, some anon told me I was shit and that I should give up forever. It was my first time doing a full illustration, so it was more than a bit discouraging, but I powered through. Well, anon was right and it was pretty shitty. So, while I'm by no means a cham, I've decided to push myself a bit more and practice lighting and perspective with more gusto. (Now choosing a cohesive palette can come next, looking at my terrible color choices now.)

Thanks, asshole anon! You've inspired me!

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i tried drawing an Ishikei~

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and a Murata as well.
is this a reliable practice method? some people like Sycra and Jazza recommend copying art from artists you like.
anyway, tell me what you think c :

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>>2637181
Pretty good, compared to DOGSHIT. Just look at the superior strokes and shading in my masterpeice

>>2637182
>some people like Sycra and Jazza recommend copying art from artists you like.
>Sycra and Jazza
what do you think?

>>2637180
Wow I that came out really great!

>>2637194
i think both of them put up quality content. what do you think?

>>2637194
>>2637182

Doing mastercopies has been a corner stone of realist art training for centuries. It doesn't necessarily have to be old masters you are copying either, it can be any work that speaks to you. It's not just a good excercise; it's one of the most fundamental ones.

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>>2637031
read this book (pirate it)

your workflow do not help you, your skills and understanding of value/color are lacking, so start using overlaying layers to adjust your color palette, if you go from handpicking without knowing shit about that complex tool, you're gonna do terrible just as you did, without solution if you keep doing it

there are so many huge mistakes on that pic that make it an unfixable turd
Drawing:
>1:1 copying of shapes/contourn lines
>lineart without variations to make distances read
>face proportions, really bigforehead, angled mouth, eyes too close, neck too wide
>not clean lines
>spam of straight lines on hair
>clouds with texture, no texture anywhere else = pop out as foreground, while it's supposedly bg
Values
>little to no contrast, no highlights, no darks
>values all over the place, horizontal line is darkest shit of the image, competing with the figure, making it read flat
atmospheric perspective makes things fade in the distance
>no lighting setup, we can't locate or predict the light source
>your shadows might do a little as an AO layer (ambient occlusion:where ambient light reach less), but you still need to separate light from casted shadows

Doing AO in a different workflow than doing shadows will help you to design renderworks without huge difficulty

Colors:
>No armony, they're not "cousins", colors should always make a family, it's not about complementaries, it's about being close and not far away on the cromathic circle. Using a color over all these random colorpicks will unify them.
>hue variations, there's none
>color temperature, there's none
>color contrasts: theres's none
>saturation spikes between brightness and darkness:none
>saturation related to athmospheric perspective: none
>fluor unrealistic colors for hair/lips/tatto


If I were you, I would erase everything, keep the line art and start working step by step

>>2637182
As long as you keep an open mind about it and stay self-aware about what you're doing it's a very good thing to do in my opinion.

Not a popular thing to talk about though, seems like people are quick to jump to conclusions or spout parrot advice. The irony here is all of us copy and inspire ourselves from other artists, and this whether we realize it or not. So in the end, you being mindful about it can simply end up being something positive in my book.

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Did some quick values on this old Rocket and Groot pencil on some weird swooping comic style I thought of.
Was a fun pic for me.

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>>2637178
Think I'll stick with this adjustment and move on.

>>2637342
have you got a blog?

>>2637340
what's with Groots eyes

>>2637347
At the time I preferred the Groot with black eyes that were glistening. Did more research on the comic variant designs than the movie.

>>2637351
oh
can you add a more tree-like feel texture on groots face during rendering pls

his body obviously tells he's a tree but his face doesn't; too smooth

>>2637210
Not him, but Jazza is an animator, his drawing tutorials are bad even for a meme. He should've read the sticky before handing out shit advice.

>>2637370
fuck it
BLOG?

>>2637242
book dl link?

>>2637430
Blog?

Call me a weeb, but i want to learn how to draw like the nips do, where the fuck do i start? I cant figure out in the sticky.

>>2637462
Fundamentals.

>>2637430
Even though there's nothing for comparison these lolis look gigantic

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>>2637462
> >>1579290

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>>2637471
That's a good thing. Imagine if you shrank to 7 inches and these three girls are looking at you like that while you are standing on a dresser. EH EH EH

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>>2637503
>>2637471

>>2637493
>>2637468
Thank you very much

>>2637678
blog now

>>2637493
>in order to draw shit anatomy
>you have to draw correct anatomy
That image would be more valid if the example on the left wasn't shit. There are better anime artists to use as examples.

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any crit would be appreciated..

>>2637826

everything looks good except for the legs, their perspective seems kinda off

>>2637826
what >>2637843 said. Maybe they should be spread out a bit more

>>2637814

Sasuke is that you?

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2 more cards and the deck will be done

I usually posted these in the "past hour" threads, I'm making a tarot deck.

>>2637178
u can use face what i drewing for u bro or get some references from other artist and copy their faces to, ur face not cool but boobs wery nice + hands nice to

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How do you draw anime hair that isn't exactly large clumps/straight/simple? Hair in real life is mostly in large forms unless it's frizzy or curly hair but in anime like pic related anything goes.

Is there something I'm missing besides replicating the contours/shapes?

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Which lighting is better? And are they correct? Crit pls

>>2637949
I like B better for this
the girl's arms are pretty stiff

>>2637892
I've been wanting to do this actually. Weird I see this.

>>2637949
depends on what the situation is. B is great for some dynamic scene where they're being lit from below, A is less dynamic but mostly correct if they're being lit from directly above.

>>2637171
That's beautiful, congratz

>>2637242
Half of this is somewhat constructive and the other half is either unnecessary or retarded. It's people like you that are ruining /ic/.

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>>2637952
I changed it a little bit, any better?

>>2637987
I wanna do B because it has this sinister feel but since I don't use that lighting a lot I'm not confident about where the shadows should fall.

>>2638102
What if you put a candle in the girl's hand? It'll shine a little bright on her from below, while giving just a little light to see the man talking to her from the shadows. I think it would look nice and the guy would be fairly dark so you might not have to worry too much about where the shadows should fall. Just a suggestion.

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>>2637163
Spray paint

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Postan a doodle

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Well I went back and tried to smooth out its edges/ to use a line color other than black for once. I'm somewhat pleased with the results, but I really want to know how to improve my anatomy from weird angles like this, normal (standing up) posing is easy as hell. But lying down is next to impossible to draw for some reason. Also I really cant figure out how shadows would work on beads that are semi-transparent.

>>2638102
do B then, can't get better if you don't fail first. this anon's idea is also very good. >>2638106

>>2638072
kinda like this aggressive style yuou have going on here

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i think i've kinda brick-walled here. i have no idea what position i ought to draw her hands in. aside from that, how are things looking so far?

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>>2638106
You suggest, I try my friend

>>2637678
*points katana* heh,,give me the blog now.......and no one gets hurt

please

>>2637826
legs are oddly out of proportion
smooth out the painting and get rid of linework; i think you should all around make the colors more subtle and have the scarf as an accent color to stand out against the rest

>>2637171
actually that was meant for the original artist, but I did ask you for blog too a few days ago

>>2637826
I would have saved this if not for the soft edged snake

>>2638136
Fantastic!! Looks much better than the original pose.

>>2637236
>>2637270
Thanks for the feedback
Ill try to do more of these c :

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>>2638138
>>2637693
thatfisher.tumblr.com

>>2637163
>>2638116
You. I like you.

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Working on a r34 Female Barb, wrath of zerk.

>>2638289
You could do a lot more with the pose, current one's stiff and boring.

>>2638225
you posts sound really depressed

>>2637242
According to this, anyone can nitpick more than 80% of professional artists in the commercial scene, making them into helpless retards. Talking big does not make one a good artist.

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can i get a redline?

>>2638289
gross

>>2638445
What is she supposed to be doing?

>>2638445

Are you that /jp/ artist? Did you get a seizure or what?

>>2638445
She needs to be in more interesting pose, redlining isn't a problem at this level.

>>2638455
>>2638465

she's supposed to be throwing a water balloon, any suggestions would help

>>2638460

no? idk who you're talking about

>>2638445
manly proportions

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WHY CAN I DRAW ANYTHING BUT EYES, REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2638533
Because you're a subnormal /r9k/ shitter that spends his time being a lazy faggot on a imageboard instead of drawing.

>>2638445
you're doing like a ton of lines to define muscle and bones etc(you even drew her ligameme)
this makes the face looks really flat
try avoiding drawing "realistic" bodies with anime faces, thats not how it works.

>>2637182
>Sycra and Jazza
Well, do you want to be like Sycra or Jazza?
Keep in mind Sycra has been drawing for 15 years and still hasnt made it

How the literal fuck do you line-art defined abs in a 3/4 view?

>>2638627
With more ass

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Keine looks retarded... Tried drawing them from memory

>>2638964
Reminds me of Fuu from Samurai Shampoo.

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Where should I look to start learning color theory and whatnot? I have no actual knowledge of colors and/or how to shade with them, as I believe is apparent in this draw. Also any critiques of this thing would be nice

>>2637938
not sure exactly what you mean? either way you shouldn't look at these sloppy anime screenshots for examples.

some general tips:
>know the head shape, know it well.
>try to be aware of the different sections of hair (depending on hairstyle), as well as their origins and direction
>vary your shapes. use thin and thick strands and alternate a lot
>you don't need to draw every single strand. not every section needs to be super elaborate and fleshed out.

i think with hair it is especially important that you have a good sense of the overall shape of the head and face.
depending on the hairstyle, you also need to be very delicate in how you draw them, especially when it comes to the hairtips.

some tips for hairstyles:
>know the cut well, don't distribute hair evenly everywhere
>know the length and density of each section well.
>be aware wether the hair has a straight or curvy nature

personally i find it easier to invent hairstyles than look up ones from ref, unless you have really good ref. that's because you're often allowed to do more with the hair than is possible in reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu6ETSJJnyw

>>2638980
http://color.adobe.com/

>>2638980
I really love this, blog ?

>>2639112
Not yet, one day maybe

>>2637342
Perspective is way off, shes not sitting flat at that angle

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Also, kinda finished this one.

>>2639372

She's really yellow.. play with the hue and saturation levels some more

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What im missing i wanna be like them korean moe artists but i dont know what im missing to make it more cute. also please give me any suggestion or tip thank you. took me to draw this about a whole day also for high quality ( exceeded 4 mb so i couldnt upload it as png : https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/158617225165668353/214639818599170049/DONE2.png )

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>>2639400
I take it you know you need to work on naturalizing your style and making it look good (I mean that in addition to fundamental studies.). It looks like you referenced a drawing or anime screencap rather than a photo or model, which makes it feel stiff.

But, to really go for the Korean moe feel, definitely bring up the brightness to some of the hair shinies, use a softer brush for your lines, and put some filters over that puppy. Pic related should give you some inspiration.

She's cute.

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>>2639402
Danke! Danke! Danke!
also i didnt use a reference while drawing the body i was drawing free style! so im guessing thats why it looks stiff..
and not just korean moe. moe in general. For now i wanna reach a level like this artist pic related.
also i dont know how to adjust any of my tools im used to them im afraid changing mytools will make my art looks worse.
and i love idolm@ster! they have cute songs and characters.

>>2638878
blog?

>>2639402
>>2639404

I'm sorry guys but there's loads better korean moe style artists than whoever you posted. You may admire them but if you apply yourself you can end up better than them and not fall into their pitfalls.

>>2639096
Thigh gap is too huge on that man, anatomy (and form?) could use some work too.

>>2639370
2nd girl's hip could be bigger imo

>>2639372
Hair fringe looks a bit too hard to me but pretty good otherwise

>>2639400
The hair could use some reference as well, the lower part of the hair looks a bit odd to me probably because of the lighting position, or the fact that all of them clumps together over there.

>>2639372
>>2639370
Blog?

>>2639413
>You may admire them but if you apply yourself you can end up better than them
Suggest me some please.
>>2639415
The hair doesnt look good ? i was really confident about it.. the hair should be a bit bubbly but i guess i didnt make it look like that. Also Yes that lightning was really disturbing and i literally tried to fix my shit up couldnt so i stopped i had over 50 layers.. so i didnt want to mess up anything.

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I had an attempt at the boat on my Tempest painting,

it hasn't worked, the composition can't hold a large sail,

and the shape of it looks rubbish

scrape it all off and think again

:/

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Not sure if I should post this here or in another thread. Does this look good as a preliminary sketch? How is the anatomy? The face? The pose? I want to try a couple different poses, but how does this one look? I edited the brightness/contrast of this pencil sketch to make it easier to see.

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as for my pan painting, I despair that it'll ever be finished

characters have been removed completely for a re-try

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>>2639418
>The hair doesnt look good ? i was really confident about it.. the hair should be a bit bubbly but i guess i didnt make it look like that. Also Yes that lightning was really disturbing and i literally tried to fix my shit up couldnt so i stopped i had over 50 layers.. so i didnt want to mess up anything.

Ah don't get me wrong, I do think the upper part of the hair is fine, I just think that the hair at the back doesn't read as well as it should've due to the lighting. More experienced anon might want to chime in though

>>2639429

You have to state what you want to convey in order for us to give a good critique. Who is she? What is she doing? Is she supposed to be classicaly attractive or ugly/average looking?

Upper arms definitely look too long though, and the face is very unappealing. The facial expressions is ambigious and the shape of the face is masculine. Kind of looks like a fat balding man in drag desu

>>2639404
If you're gonnna act like a weeb at least try to learn nipspeak. Reolying with romanji is cringey.

>>2639451
In this scenario, she's a pinup model. Think of the Sports Illustrated magazine covers with the bikini babes. I agree with the things you've pointed out. Gonna try a different pose and actually use a photo as reference. Definitely gonna work on the face, too.

>>2639400
looks like you've referenced another animu instead of making your own stylization (your own choices)

it lacks construction, it's too flat, form on hair,clothing or background is not there

if you use textures on a foreshortening plane(skirt), deform that texture to match the surface, or you make it absurdly flat by choice

BG is crowed of exactly the same dots, use a reference for sky bgs

Add hues, different values

The overal picture should have more contrasts in color, and armony, it's lacking, brights are white, darks are black

I don't seeproblems the drawing of her face, but painterly wise, there's no lighting/shadows

>>2639456
>Replying with romanji is cringey
That's German though...

>>2639456

Not sure if bait or actual retard
"Danke" is german

>>2639457

Okay, the princess Leia style hair buns (?) gave her a kind of medieval look. For the face you might want to try for a softer facial expression to convey that femininity. Think of a giggling girl getting splashed with cold water or something. She looks kind of smug/evil to me in the sketch like a plotting witch casting a spell haha

>>2639429
her arms and neck are incredibly thick and her breasts look unnatural as well.
she has the face of a gorilla, her eyes are too close to each other.

>>2639460
>>2639461
get fucked xdddd baka X)

>>2639412
Pretty sure it's andrae.

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>>2639439
thanks alot i will try to keep this inmind anon and cute picture good reference. thanks.
>>2639456
???
>>2639458
thank you so much for your criticism!
but didnt understand some part sorry if i sounded like a retard.
>
if you use textures on a foreshortening plane(skirt), deform that texture to match the surface, or you make it absurdly flat by choice
>The overal picture should have more contrasts in color, and armony, it's lacking, brights are white, darks are black
can you go in depth more about these? if you're free please do respond thank you so much for taking your time reading this.

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>>2639415
> 2nd girl's hip could be bigger imo

I guess, the shape of the legs were a bit fucked too.

>>2638135
needs more contrast

>>2638533
because you don't practice them enough. try studying the real life anatomy of eyes, it helps you to not draw them flat imo

>>2639096
those thigh gaps need some work. drapery is lackluster too.

>>2639370
i don't really understand what's going on with the clothes the left girl is wearing. real clothes wouldn't tuck under someone's boobs, even if they're skin tight. the naval is debatable however.the foreshortening on the second girl's leg looks pretty shit too.

>>2639372
looks like a lot of pillow shading with rim lighting added. the color choices are pretty poor too. hair looks like weird noodles for the long parts, and spikes for the fringe.

>>2639427
>>2639430
keep the garbage in the bin please

>>2639429
stiff pose, arms too long, face too small for her head

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>>2639562
>keep the garbage in the bin please

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>>2639504

>>2639687
Nice nightmare fuel.

>>2639687
kill it with fire

>>2639694
>>2639698
what is exactly fucked up so far? can't see it

>>2639710
They're just mad and jelly.

>>2639687
yawn

>>2639762
diggin the left gitl rendering, really great, shadows on the lighter skin girls needs a different tone
It reads well and looks painterly, keep it

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>>2639415
>>2639562
working on construction
doing studies faster/on a time limit is starting to help me.
I remember being pissy whenever I did a study because I would tell myself 'whats the point, I'll be the same old as yesterday etc.'


also thanks for the feedback

>>2639710
it's a bald head dude, and the styization feels slightly off too. her chin is too pointy. not sure what kind of reaction you were expecting.
even sketches should be made somewhat presentable before showing them to others. at least put on some hair.
you learned a lesson hopefully.

>>2639762
Only thing I don't get is why is the right girl's underwear(?) not flapping in the wind like the other two?

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>>2639526
And colored.

>>2639876
time limit is a meme

>>2639903
>...and then she farts!

>>2636462
If the fore ground and back ground had different values it would the tie up the piece nicely, Looks like there in the same place.

>>2639687
Those guys are def jelly or maybe this one just doesn't appeal to their niche gross fetish, looks great so far.

>>2637678
Dat butt cutout, love the mechanical v. skin, it's a fun design and I think you should follow up on it with a more rendered piece

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I wanna load up on the details, any suggestions?

>>2639710
I 100% agree

>>2639710
A common beginner mistake, you're trying to put realistic features while doing something clearly anime oriented, that face looks creepy and those earth shaped pupils aren't making it any better. Learn how to make good looking faces.

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>>2640023
The face is only creepy because it's missing something very minor (a bit of squint for expression and some gloss in the eyes). Otherwise these are extremely common facial proportions in concept/pin-up art. You could argue that the face isn't very unique but not that it's wrong. (Also to the OP take care with the roundness of the irises; they should be a little more like ellipses

>>2639710
>>2640042
The jaw is weird as fuck.

>>2640044
Redline it then, looks stylized to me. The side plane of the head is already represented.

>>2640130
Front facing eye drawn on a profile view.

Ear is too far back, the 'hole' of the ear is usually at the middle of the cranium

>>2640130
humans are not deer, anon

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>>2640047
I'm think something not right with her mouth. Lower lip

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>>2639418
Anmi and Shirahane Nao are pretty good.

>>2637814
suzuki honda civic

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I keep getting frustrated with the shading, and no matter what i do, it works in some places, and falls apart in other. I mean I know its really rough and has a lot of unrefined edges, but does anyone see potential in it? Should I keep going with this one?

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>>2638116
I cant paint a whole picture

>>2638288
The feeling's mutual

>>2640373
Blog Pretttttyyyyy Pleeeeeaseeeee???

with a cherry on top?

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currently working on this.

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Can you guys post your stylised vs ''''''''''realistic''''''''''

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#pointychinsmatter

>>2640499
Looks like her wig is coming off

>>2640473
Is smiling some fantasy bullshit for you?

>>2640499
fix that hairline bro

>>2640502
>>2640504
chuckled
fixin it

>>2640373
BLOG?

I like the style of some artist I follow time ago but now I feel jealous. I try my best but I can't draw better, then I saw her works and think "WHY I DON'T DRAW LIKE THAT". (btw sry for the english)

>>2640535
trying really hard is not the same as trying right, you can only improve 1 step at a time so focus on that

If you cant say what particular thing you tried to improve in your last piece, you couldn't improve too much

btw don't be so serious about it

can anyone tell me at what size should i work on? i feel like my canvas is too big the canvas im using is 2480 x 3507? is that too big for an artwork whats the typical canvas size to work on?

>>2640654

The bigger the better. For simple doodle anything beyond 2K pixels is fine.

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>>2637493
please reference an artist that actually uses anatomy if you're going to make this point

fixed it

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>>2640373
B L O G

>>2640681
hnnng muh dick!

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>>2640681
>not putting the emphasis on glorious Loomis above all else

baka desu senpai

Not. Gonna. Make it.

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Trying to be mroe heavy-handed with my shading but I'm not so sure it was the right choice now

>>2640711
You gave her midget proportions.

>>2640711
This "anime girls with maga hats" meme is so fucking cringy

>>2640499
right arm is off

>>2640728
this is a good way to structure proportions.

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>>2640746
t. correct the record shill.

>>2640781
Retarded degenerate

>>2640781
I love you

>>2640699
>not merc wip

>>2640699
HNNNGGG MUH DICK!

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>>2640699
Some slav memes are good too

>>2640803
fucking nightmare fuel mate

>>2640711
she's chinese.

>>2640728
>>2640841
I like these, blog?

>>2640860
don't have any

>>2640862
please make one!

>>2640863
no

>>2640869
why?

>>2640869
fuck you too then!

>>2640699
lies! im not where close to that.

>>2640391
I post all my shit on patreon for lack of one and I hesitate to post it because shilling

One guy tells me he's making one for me but it's been a while

>>2640841
>low effort
I like you

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figuring out hands/claws

>>2640862
I like the way you structure your anatomy personally and I'd like to see more, as a beginner myself it feels refreshing to look at. If you have more to post, even old shits, feel free to spam them.

>>2640192
you fucked it up you shitter

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the drawing is bad but the ink is good right?

>>2641283
No both are shit.
You varied lineweights completely randomly.

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shading in progress.

>>2641333
Nice so far but the dude's arms and pelvis look kinda stunted?

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Perspective is off and not sure how to fix it, any suggestions? Just started learning perspective and have a long way to go. I should have learned it first.

In any case thanks for your time if anyone decides to give me some pointers.

>>2641231
i suggest you to study this guy's structural approach to anatomy, he's a lot better than me at this
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/883632/deb86d946f/

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i don't have a ruler or even a spatula to help me get things aligned. But some feedback could help too. PLEASE

>>2641333
Dude gives me Joestar vibes

>>2641372
Look up 1-point, 2-point, and 3-point perspective. It seems like you're going for a 1-point perspective here, except your horizon is tilted (as all these posts would be perpendicular to the horizon), whereas your character is standing straight (which is making *her* look tilted).

Easiest fix I can think of is to sit these poles straight.

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>>2641372
Read the sticky.

>>2640943
Just fucking post it dude. There have been a bunch of us begging for some kind of gallery forever.

>>2641443
No.

>>2641444
what a massive faggot

>>2641445
>abloo bloo bloo

>>2641447
>I have a guy asking to see my thing that makes me money
>what a crybaby

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>>2641448
Not him but you faggots have a long history of fucking things up especially when it comes to other artists I don't blame them for not wanting to share their blogs with you scoundrel.

Lest we forget, just look at what you gigantic faggots did with Simon.

>>2641450
>Simon.
I don't know this meme

>>2641452
Good, so just fuck off newfag.

>>2641454
Why are you projecting so hard?

>>2641456
Probably because his mom never loved him, either that or he's butthurt because someone called his art shit

>>2641277
the goblin has turned into a human...

>>2641450
Teal was shit. Poor taste in anatomy. Pedo 100% for sure. He had his style going for him and that was about it.

Pathetic.

Teal is shit artist. His redlines are shit

>>2641502
>Pedo 100% for sure
I feel like this part might be skewing your dislike for him more than those other things

>>2641450
they also did the same thing to mikufag
fucks sake 2 mullins kjg tier artists killed by /ic/

>>2641450
>>2641610
Lolibro. That Malaysia tard always shitpost about him 24/7
BBC as I remember was fucked and someone posted his real name adress etc
Daily shitposts threads about Keppok.

>>2641632
lolibro was a fucking depressed wreck
maldrawbro was trying to get him into shape by forcing him to open a blog and told him to stop bitching about his shit life.
it worked for a while until a you shitters called maldrawbro out, shitpost the shit out of him and told lolibro he was being trolled all along by the malaysian boogieman and the loli pedo dumbshit returned back being depressed and he probably killed himself by now.

-t. Malaysia

>>2641647
>>2641632
Who gives a fuck about that loli shitter. There's lots of better artists in /ic/ that deserves the attention.

>>2637430
How do you draw like that? Do you actually color under the lines or above it? or both?

>>2641385
Cheers.

>>2641647
>bitching about his shit life.
Try harder or post warosu links for proofs. You can't
>maldrawbro
>t.
Hello Malaysia. But even you're not Malaysia, appearance of shitposter like you in this thread is aready bad sign.

>>2641671
anyone who mentions or insinuates malaysia or maldraw regardless good or bad is already a bad sign desu

what proof do you have you're not shilling yourself by creating drama about yourself?

>>2641450
true, true

Who the fuck was lolibro again?

>>2641450
None of this would've happened if you fags didn't treat teal like a god and we're in some kind of fucking cult or something.
It's only the artists that are overrated (either by you fags or by themselves) that cause controversy around here.
There are tons of other artists that weren't treated like he did.

>>2641685
>There are tons of other artists that weren't treated like he did

name one faggot.

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>>2641673
>le malaysia is evil meme
>everyone pls remember this exact artist and check out his works and pls visit his patreon
>pls remember everytime drama and jelly happens (literally what /ic/ is all about ever since its conception) its caused by this one artist
>pls remember me

>>2641686
andrae

>>2641689
is he as good as teal?

>>2641673
>what proof do you have you're not shilling yourself by creating drama about yourself?
EZ. I can tell something intresting about your mother using russian literary language
>>2641685
>There are tons of other artists that weren't treated like he did.
I'm waiting for some names too

>>2641686
>>2641695
kyle, thdark, and the occasional other decent artists that post here (season for example). and >>2641689

maybe they just have the right attitude. they never take critique personally as opposed to all the other retarded overrated shitters like teal or BBC or even some itt.
keppok is a different story. iirc it he/she said some polshit on some stream and that's why there were threads about him/her.

>>2641693
arguably. not as polished maybe.
wether he is or not is not the issue though.

>>2641695
how about if you post some art?
let us know who this maldraw hater is

>>2641698
how about maldraw? why is there so much drama about him?
I really don't get the maldraw meme.

>>2641705
/pol/shit. just like with keppok (allegedly).
also maldraw shilled himself a lot i think.

>>2641698
>>2641689
>andrae
He rarely post here his shitty sketches. He never interact with other anons, he never answer questions. He doesn't even update his blog for years.
>kyle
Are you joking or baiting? Kyle is 100% shitstorm machine. And, I don't think he's part of /ic/ anymore. Like Andrae he just drop his sketch one time per month and completely disappear. Again no any interaction with other anons. What the fuckin point? Don't tell me about his shitty coloring tutorial. He made it jsut to post at tumblr

>>2641705
Overrated shit artist that managed to somehow convince hardline autists to be jealous of his work.
I mean the haters are so content in ruining his reputation to the point they dive into the archives and create this compilation of screenshots that compares reaction images that he might use in /pol/ and in /ic/.

I mean if this guy is real good, sure lets shit on him but this guy's art really sucks, its like someones trying to ruin the reputation of nosebro.

>>2641701
>how about if you post some art?
I can spend some time and ask my chinese bro for some sketches from their closed forums, but it's change nothing. You will shitting on them. It's not first time. So
>how about if you post some art?
>let us know who this maldraw lower is
There is a lot a reason to hate his person, and little or even none to love.

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>>2641715
I mean just look at this clusterfuck of shit scribbles.
Why the fuck is this shitter so important to this board?
Why would anyone want to shitpost about this guy?
Why all the attention to him?

>>2641710
well you can't expect them to stay here all the time and stay forever. yes people would usually cause shitstorms around him but they're not like the ones caused by teal and co. with kyle there will be some discussion about the ART, positive and negative, just like how it should be.
with teal you'll have discussion about the ART, and then you retards/the artist defending the PERSON.

and what is your point? do you want someone who posts all the time so you can idolize them or something?

>>2641715
nosebro tripfags. that's 90% of the reason why he's become a meme.

>>2641720
>Why the fuck is this shitter so important to this board?
the answer: he isn't. he's just another obnoxious shitposter. just in this case he's got a history too and people somehow remember him.

>>2641720
https://i.warosu.org/data/ic/img/0026/33/1470843929857.jpg

>>2641721
>>>2641720
>>Why the fuck is this shitter so important to this board?
>the answer: he isn't. he's just another obnoxious shitposter. just in this case he's got a history too and people somehow remember him.

You do realize you're just replying to him by this.

Kinda pathetic how hard he scrambles for a few extra patreon shekels from 4chan of all places baka

>>2641721
>the answer: he isn't. he's just another obnoxious shitposter. just in this case he's got a history too and people somehow remember him.
Big problem is, I really don't get all the screencaps and the mentioning of malaysia everytime drama happens. Literally nobody, not even the worst shitposter in /ic/ ever got that treatment. This fucker has been put on a pedestal so high I bet there wont be a single day on /ic/ where he's not mentioned.

>>2641727
Good. I secretly like the guy.

>>2641727
>put on a pedestal
you're mistaken. he's just mentioned a lot. nobody puts his art on a pedestal.
again, emphasis on "obnoxious shitposter"
maybe he samefags a lot, or maybe he trolled a few people into genuinely being buttdevastated about him so that they keep posting about him. but really i don't care and neither should you.

>>2641732
by putting him on a pedestal i mean his existence
his art is nothing to brag about.

i mean ffs mods deleted the porn threads once because his art was in the op.

never in my life i've seen mods care so much about an artist.

>>2641727
>I bet there wont be a single day on /ic/ where he's not mentioned.
Well, he shitpost in two places. /pol/ and /ic/. You know, /pol/ themes shitposting have more stronger impact. You can insult someone's art but it's nothing compared to insulting race at daily basics. Just check /pol/ archives of his threads. 16 years old kid in /pol/ can be very wild

>>2641735
maybe it's because of his shilling.

new issue but don't continue your drama there >>2641739

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>>2641736
i would appreciate it if you dumbfucks don't respond to him like the literal retards you all are.
Is ignoring and forgetting one guy so hard of a job?

>>2641748
>ignoring and forgetting
It's very hard. Especially when someone shitpost, you know IT'S HIM but everyone taking the bait because they didn't know. You must tell them b-but thread will...

>>2641748
>dm2 reaction images
only maldraw use these

>>2641748
>animated jpg
THE FUCK IS THIS SORCERY?

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what im missing to make the colors more appealing and looks proper not just some simple shading. Pic related what i drew just now. is there some guide or reference in animu coloring such as in hair and clothes? Thanks alot. Any criticism is open aswell.

>>2639599
Thanks alot just saw this! im still beginner in coloring any books do you recommend me to read for coloring?

>>2637178
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>>2641444
Speak for yourself you goon

>>2641443
patreon.com/boa

Click the archive link for older stuff

>>2641794
Darker values an higher contrasts. If you squint right now all dat shit is really close to pure white.

Contrast is going to highlight your lack of shading knowledge. though. Aside from the face and left hand, nothing seems to be lit by an actual light source (the hair is especially guilty of this). Looking at just this drawing, I feel like your lack of mastery of anatomy, clothes (what shapes they make, where folds go) as well as volumes in general is what's holding you back in shading properly.

If you wanna make things look good you're gonna have to practice form and anatomy a bit more before you really get to coloring things.

If you *really* want to color drawings now, your best results will come from flats with light shading (kinda like what you did, because it hides that your shading is all over the place lol). To make those more appealing, look up basic lessons on color relationships, contrasts, and don't make every color in your drawing the same value. (The only way to make drawings with similar-valued bases look good is with solid rendering.)

But I would say to practice, practice, practice.

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critiques are welcome
gonna try to paint this tomorrow and fail

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hai

ok bye~

>>2641698
>>2641709
>keppok
Keppok deserved getting ran off and BTFO. She's a typical white trash /pol/tard and her work was boring. It looks like that cunt gave up on art finally and it's about time. She is just leeching off Brekkist's talent. I still have no idea what Brekkist saw in that /pol/tard. He must have been lonely.

>>2642032
I'll assume this is just meant to be a stiff concept pose, but still, its off center. She's not holding her weight up. Draw a rule line down the center of the page and skew her upright.

>>2642218
her eyes are attached to her ears.

>>2642340
into the oven with you all

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>>2642490
yeah pretty much just a boring concept pose
anyways i tried fixing her balance

>>2641283
Back to the Beginner thread with you laddie.

>>2644012
desu I don't think it's that baaad I mean the hand is godawful but im kinda liking the lines I see something in there that most beginners wouldn't be able to do

wait why did it automatically put desu infront of my sentence I didn't even type that wtf

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Behold ROT!!

>>2640869

>yourenotgonnamakeit.png

>>2644187
You mean the way the line weight is inconsistent and doesn't conform to any real system. I will give you that the very very bottom of her torso appeals to me slightly but still the lines there are wobbly.

>>2641333
did you make that?