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How are these leadholders?

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I see them on ebay and aliexpress for like a dollar
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_BIN=1&_nkw=2mm+leadholder&_sop=15

I'm thinking about getting a few, does anyone have experience with them? or are they usually dead on arrival?
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>>2625689
Just buy a Staedtler Mars Technico. They are everywhere.
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Get a Fixpencil 22. Trust me, you won't look back.
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Lead holder is mostly a meme. Graphite is a bad medium to begin with. Sure, you could use them for other colored leads, but they're just as bad.
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>>2625950
>Graphite is a bad medium to begin with.
Care to explain

Lead holders are not a meme, 2mm leads are cheaper and the instrument is virtually identical to wooden pencils except it stays balanced.
The Fixpencil 22 is very light and thin so it mimics regular pencils very well with none of the downsides.
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>>2625950
yeah, get a graphics tablet and join the ruan jia zombie horde, loser
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>>2625972
Graphite smudges in quite an unsightly way. Charcoal or chalk, of similar hardness are much better, even when they smudge. Smudging graphite to produce an effect is nearly always a negative and does not look as natural as smudged chalk or charcoal. You also often have to bear down hard on the paper with the graphite to produce the darker tones, which with graphite produces an uneven effect of sheen with the drawing, especially when used to fill in dark masses. In a dark mass of one tone it's not unusual to see, when the light reflects on it, that the surface is made uneven by the strokes, so the this mass of tone doesn't take the light evenly.
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