advice you'd give to your noob self

>>2622264
Don't blend.

do more

>>2622264
Give up

>you're doing fine. just keep going.

don't see any sense in trying to make my past more "perfect". The mistakes I made were huge learning experiences. they're important.

>Don't pick up drumming/playing guitar. Do wrist stretches and most importantly keep biking and weightlifting.

>Stop sitting around waiting for something to happen. Get off your ass and make something happen.

>>2622315
This

Git Gud.

>>2622264
>your time is running out, start taking this shit seriously
>just drawing a lot isn't enough, you have to study and analyze your mistakes
>you can't halfass anatomy and construction
>take procrastination, bend it over, fuck the living shit out of it and leave it behind
>read the fucking sticky

>stop drawing animu shit
>draw porn for money so you can quit your fucking job
>drawing porn is a great way to learn anatomy
>lift weights you weak faggot
>don't get in relationships, they waist time
>buy new equipment every year
>don't waist time on pet projects that you hope will get published, they won't

>start sooner
>stop trying to draw masterpieces

>>2622394
>buy new equipment every year

why tho

rendering doesnt replace fundamentals you idiot

>>2622264
calm down
this takes time
allow yourself to take time

Use more pigment when mixing paint
Check if those are acrylic or oil brushes

That's it

Drop out of high school.

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>you need to spend more time watching pornography
>don't worry about fundamentals just learn to photobash
>make sure to grip the stylus nice and hard
>draw furry porn on the side, but don't use your real name, use an anagram so no one will know it's you

>>2622595
Real talk. Furry and porn in general can get you a shit load of commission/patreon money.

>>2622598
I don't think I would be able to get over my burning hatred of furries to do it

>>2622607
Just think of furries and furry porn as bags of cash

>>2622611
I'd rather think of them on fire

>>2622615
Ok, hobo.

>>2622598
Why does everyone say this? I knew a skilled artist who tried and couldn't get any buyers. Everyone makes it sound like all you have to do is be skilled, open commissions, and get paid, but is that actually true in real life?

>>2622615
Stop being so emotional and realize your situation. Personal honor, child-like morals and dignity don't matter jack shit when you have bills to pay. They are abstract, they belong to normies to limit their success.
Just a lil' advice.

>>2622621
No, you need a wide skillset of marketing, dealing with people, confidence, self evaluation, persistence and originality.
You can make up for some with the others, but it's naive to think that you just git gud and the audience takes care of the rest for you.

>>2622425
>>2622394

yeah why??

Have more self-confidence. By your late 20's, you will be one of the best working artists in your medium. Don't let your friends and family discourage you. Your work will sell for many thousands of dollars before you're 30, so just keep doing what you do and try to have fun. Leave that teaching job before you're 25. It will hold you back. Don't give most of your money to that girlfriend. She doesn't love you, and you will have passed up at least four other nicer girls who would have been willing to take the ride with you rather than dragging your career down.

>>2622621

No. People just say that because they see a few trash artists get commissions, but they don't see the thousands of trash artists who don't get a cent.

It also gives people a convenient high horse so they can smugly declare "I could do it but I won't stoop to that level."

keep drawing. making mistakes is how you get better.

>>2622791
it sucks that your family didnt believe in you. Although you pushing through it has made you strong

>>2622866
That's the thing. Sometimes you think maybe you wouldn't go back and tell your younger self these things if you could. If what you wanted in life was easy, would it be as satisfying? Maybe the best part is the struggle. I probably wouldn't have developed a unique voice or style without all those rocky patches in my life. This is what compels people towards some artists' work over others'.

>It was better to kill yourself after all.

>>2623038
>>2622282
Kek.

>>2622624
t. edgy teen who's never made a penny off of their work

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What's the difference between pic related and furries doing a shitton of money with shitty art skills and porn ?

None. Both are memes. Shit ass memes.

> Inb4 you're dumb if you think you can pull out 800$ per week out of furry porn trash without any decent drawing skills

Dear me some years ago:

The best critic of your artwork is yourself. Art is something that is difficult to make money off of, unless you are the best. Listening to others and taking their advice is possible, but the person who should be bashing your art the most is you.

In fact, it's almost impossible to please everyone, so you should really disregard most criticism you here. Don't worry, many of them tend to be useless criticism anyway, so you're not really losing anything.

You should also avoid this board if entirely possible. It might seem like the people here are talented, but really it's just a place for people to attack each other.

>>2622270
okay casey

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To myself :
- Fuck videogames. Especially pic related, huge waste of time;
- The learning curve at first is scary, but it gets fun and challenging;
- Always get in the flow;
- Draw everyday, even when you're not in the mood, if you stop for a day or two, your hand will get stiff;
- Draw stuff you'd like to make a living of later not, not random stuff for the sake of "Learning fundamentals";
- Doing NSFW on the side grants confiidence and anatomy practice. Also pays some bills;
- Try to stick to ONE project at a time, salvage unfinished ones;
- Glue a notebook to your butt, store every idea you have on paper, salvage them later;

Copy other artists more.

stop trying to copy shit and learn shapes you dumb skinny manlet. every drawing should be an iteration of the last one

>>2622269
y

>>2623615
>learn shapes
wat does that even mean?

>>2623622
it means not to focus on details by studying the simpler forms. i should be practicing how to construct anything, not just what's in front of me

>>2622269
Yeah don't bend either.

kill yourself and save us from this suffering

give up

>Get enough sleep

>>2623640
oh right that makes sense, i usually think of shape as being something different to construction/form, i thought you meant shape design stuff like silhouettes, tangents and distribution

Keep copying manga and comic artists while you learn anatomy and all the other important shit. Apply what you've learned about movement and energy into your traditional work, and come up with something new. Stop being such a bent-over pussy about every new piece of advice that tells you to "stop X and do Y instead."

Just combine all of it together.

KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE FUCKING SYMBOL DRAWING

TELL YOUR MOM AND DAD TO PISS OFF

STOP DRAWING SONIC FANART AND DRAW SHIT PEOPLE LIKE INSTEAD

Never go on /ic/ and try your hardest not to be like them, creativity can only be self taught and technical skill is second to it.

>Don't tripcode on /ic/

>>2623972
>creativity can only be self taught

Would strongly disagree with this. I attended an art school for 4 years where I quickly realized that the curriculum was extremely conceptually based rather than technically. Although most students who graduated didn't have a high technical skill in their mediums, the school DID actually do a good job in teaching people how to be creative. It can be done, and it's something that can be practiced. It essentially comes down to how to brainstorm an idea and different techniques to explore and deviate from a prompt while still solving the problem.

>>2623977
nosebro is that u ?

>Don't be to embarrassed to draw at lunch in school
>don't give up drawing because you to tired after school
>don't get on that bus on 02/03/2012

>>2624177
so tell us. what happened on /that/ bus?

storytelling is more important than technical skill

>>2624252
lmao

>>2624252
in what instance? there's a fuck load of areas of art you can go into that need little to no storytelling skills. fucking anons throwing around absolute truths

Your eyesight will start to fail you when you get older. Apparently bad eyesight runs in the family and you should draw while you still can.

>>2624252

This. Nobody remembers CGI in films but everybody remembers Luke shouting "NOOOO!" to Vader. Nowadays people care fuckall about effects in "Jurassic Park" that were awesome back then and today are just meh, but they sure as hell love the setting and T-Rex chase.

Same applies to paintings/pictures/comics/whatever.

>>2624778

What? Mentioning Jurassic Park is contrary to the point you're trying to make. It wasn't carried by special effects alone no, but it would never have made it if it wasn't for CGI.

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>>2624778
literal moron. you're saying jurassic park didn't have a large crew with a huge amount of technical abilities? special effects don't equate to a film being technically proficient dumbass, it goes to actors, cinematography, well written script, good directing and a shit load of other stuff. if that stuff wasn't nailed the film would be utter crap, and it goes the same with a drawing and its fundamentals. without them anything you do is shit and shouldn't be expected to be appreciated. just hire someone with the technical skill to draw out an image containing the story you want to convey

>>2624564
In most instances. The free exploration of any area of a creative art can only come from someone who has no doubts at all in their ability to tell a convincing story. Without this confidence practice isn't enjoyable. It's dull, unrewarding, unintuitive and leads only to anxiety. You're better off killing yourself than putting up with that madness.

>conceal, don't feel

>>2624025
nah

>>2623615
Well like

Blending too early is like animating without keys, I guess. Unless you're just that good.

>>2622264
throw away all those how to draw anime books

>PERSPECTIVE AND FORM FIRST

>>2622264
I would say to my younger self:

>No, you cannot skip the basics, learn the basics and then you can develop your own style, faggot.
>No, shading is not for faggots, learn this shit right, faggot.
>The art school is just a scam, spend your money on something valuable like books or material for instance, you gullible faggot
>Stop sucking dicks you literal faggot

>>2622264
Green is not a creative color.

>>2624177
What happened on the bus?

If bus dude is anything like me, I became disabled on that day.

>>2622264
>Study more
>Draw more, and not just manga
>Eat less you fat fuck
>Don't let authorities get in your life, ever.

>>2625900
kek

>>2622557
I'm about to start painting, noting this

>>2624225
>>2626178
shit exploded, he died

>>2622264
There is a spot between "arrogant fuck" and "self-flagellating moron". hating your work just because it isnt good yet is just as bad as overlooking its flaws.
Just draw, enjoy it and just TRY to get better and you will.

>>2624177
>>don't get on that bus on 02/03/2012
did you get moleested?

>express yourself, make it feel right to you
>technique by itself is just a gimmick
>make drawing a scheduled habit, reevaluate your goals periodically, stick with commitments
>structure your pieces with a sketch at the beginning
>bin all cynical or whiny ideas
>prof artists work way harder than you think they do
>use less lines, less pressure
>"lots of details" isn't an idea
>be more careful with your tablet and pens

>you have already arrived at the destination

>>2626178

Tornado outbreak. When it was finally finished, OP had a feeling that they were not in Kansas anymore.

actually keep fucking drawing and don't take multiple month long breaks. don't wait for the "itch" to actually draw again, just keep fucking drawing as much as possible.

i'm 27, i would've been a fucking master by now if i'd actually kept at it all these years. as it is now, my shit isn't even worthy to be laughed at by /ic/

>I would have improved so much more faster had I focused more on personal workflow rather than grinding that it's not even a joke

I'm so fucking stupid for now just realizing this. Don't make this mistake me from a 2 years ago.

Dont draw animu shit
Skip shool on 07/11/07

>>2628150

Why? Is that the date you get beat into a dumpster by Chad for drawing anime, lol?

Hey it's great that you want to draw and that you even got a stylus and all but it's pretty much useless to you. Seriously, go back to using a pencil and draw on paper. You have a notebook you got some years ago that's nearly empty

also seriously start reading instead of just downloading those pdfs instead of doing fuck all.

Oh and the greatest irony is that you'll wind up losing the stylus to your tablet sometime in the future anyway so its not like you'll have a choice

>>2622264
Stop comparing yourself to others Just Practice more your doing fine

>>2628135

I don't understand, can you give a concrete example how the two approaches differ?

do what works for you
no really, do what works for you
no, stop, listen to me
DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU, YOU FUCKING IDIOT
EVERYONES DIFFERENT
IF IT WORKS IT WORKS

>>2623990
Yeah but when you come up with an idea based on some standard procedure it's not going to be totally original, because it follows logically from the premise so it's unlikely to startle the audience. Whereas true genius, even if trying to follow a taught procedure, will have groundbreaking ideas once in a while and produce truly outstanding work

>Keep a sketchbook and a pen or pencil on you at all times. Make quick life studies whenever you're having some time to kill such as waiting for the bus or taking a shit.

>Draw ugly and uninteresting everyday objects from life every day even if it's boring. It's all about training your eye and hand. I promise it will help when drawing cool shit from imagination even though you don't see it now. Don't worry about making beautiful sketches. As long as you're making a sincere effort you WILL improve over time. And life drawing can be really fun, too.

>Draw all sorts of things. Don't be intimidated by any particular subject

>In case of doubt, draw something from life. Don't doodle. Doodling will do very little for improving your drawing skill.

>Draw directly with ink a lot. It really helps your line confidence.

>You're on the right track practicing construction a lot. Keep it up. However draw man made objects from life also, it will help more than just inventing cubes.

>Get into drawing landscapes now. Practice the shit out of simplifying complex sillouhettes such as trees. Don't try to reinvent the wheel idiot, copy the way it's shown in the books. It will help with everything else

>You actually have great taste already. It won't change as much as you'd think. And your great taste is not equal with your skills, so that's why you feel shitty about your work right now. Just keep practicing. Trust in your own taste and do not keep too much attention to trends

>For god's sake if you see art you like on the internet save the damn pictures. Don't count on everything to stay on the internet forever or that you will find it again. People will delete their blogs and forum handles. Posts disappears. Save shit.

>Learn how to back up files you fucking idiot, hard drives crash easily

>>2622264
>learn something you'll actually use, like c++

>>2622394
>drawing porn is a great way to learn anatomy
That's actually, good advice.

Thanks guys for the advice, Im actually a beginner

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SQUINT MOAR

seriously whenever you're drawing anything from reference for studying, squint to see the big shapes and not get distracted my details. it works for environments, characters, faces, figures, everything.

dont waste your time with that third master copy that was three months of gud you werent getting

>>2622264
Talent is code for hard work. Normies aren't good at expressing themselves correctly.

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>Stop playing the guessing game, use references.
>Practice drawing smoother lines, stop with the chicken-scratch.
>Don't bother making "art friends".
>Don't take it personal when a good/popular artist draws something better than you.
>If possible, take all forms of critique from random people. Your family and friends parroting "You've got talent" will never help you improve.
>Get out of the habit of deleting images in your gallery. If you hate how it came out, theres still a chance someone else might like it.
>Draw the goddamn body first, THEN put on their suits.
>Sketch multiple things you've never drawn before while you wait for your Raid group.
>Don't throw a hissy fit when you draw free art for someone and they hate it.
>Don't fall for the 'two cakes' meme.

>>2632379
>Draw the goddamn body first, THEN put on their suits.
How does this work on a traditional medium man?

>>2632379
two cakes meme?

>>2632383
pencil sketch then ink?

>>2632379
>Don't bother making "art friends".

care to elaborate?

>>2629489
>some standard procedure
>WAAAH RIGOR IS ICKY DON'T ORGANIZE YOUR THOUGHTS BRO

fuck you. everything is procedure even when you don't realize it.
"intuition" and "inspiration" is procedure made subconscious

i'm not the anon you quoted.

>>2632187

heh

>>2629555
>>2632184
objectively awesome hindsight

>>2629555
>Learn how to back up files you fucking idiot, hard drives crash easily
Literally haven't had it happen once.

>>2622814
Literally this.

>>2629555
>Get into drawing landscapes now. Practice the shit out of simplifying complex sillouhettes such as trees. Don't try to reinvent the wheel idiot, copy the way it's shown in the books. It will help with everything else

What books would you recommend reading on this?

>>2622264
>You think your friends will save you? Fuck them, only yourself can build the confidence to actually BEGIN.

>>2632419
>heh
what was that for? thats probably the only thing id do differently if i had to start over again

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>>2632387
>two cakes meme?

>>2622264
>there's a time and a place for mucking around

>>2632612
nothing he wrote makes sense. just ignore the sperg

>>2633037
Man, that image explains a lot.

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>don't spend fucking 6 months doing circles, you will never get to do perfect circles every time, no one is able too.

>>2633299
Well, yeah man. Spend only like two or three months on circles. Why the fuck would you spend 6 months? You should have moved on already to spheres, cylinders and shit.

>>2622264
>Don't be an autist and draw the same character over and over

Don't dismiss a tutorial from somebody of lower skill just because they aren't old or a vilppu. If they have 900 likes on youtube and barely any dislikes they must be doing something right enough to appeal to the norms who aren't artists and that's all that matters because they're the ones putting green in your bank. Learn from them and find what works and discard the bullshit. Lower skill artists serve as your jumping pad to the next person of higher skill. Everyone has something to share and to dismiss their advice because you see everything with a "oh he's not a kim jung gi therefore I shouldn't take his advice" is stupid, especially if that non-kim jung gi artist is better than you. Admit defeat, learn from them, get better than them and move on.

>>2633307
kek

http://www.redbubble.com/people/dankentity?asc=u

get ur goddamn life together you stupid fucking abortion

(i still tell myself this)

>>2629555
Saved.

>>2633288

don't fall for it though

>>2632612

sorry, it's a good heh
>three months of gud you werent getting

that's quality wordsmithing

>>2633037
It's really
>thinking "oh man, this guy sucks in comparison to that guy. Better not say anything to bring it to notice that it's bad."
It's probably the most embarrassing thing that can happen ever.

Get going with figure drawing sooner.
The "side view only" thing is amateurish. Think proper space.

Note To Self:
>Learn your fundamentals as soon as possible. If you actually know your fundamentals everything you draw/paint will look good.
>Be an Artist's artist. Don't pander for likes and shit. Use followers as a means to network with artists you actually like.
>Never put Concept Artist as your job title, it has an amateur connotation. Use Freelance Illustrator if unemployed. and be sure to put your current studio/rank in your job title. (e.g., Lead Artist at Supergiant Games)
>The only way you improve at a studio is by talking to all the artists there and getting their advice. It's very easy to stagnate and grow comfortable in a studio environment.
>If you have a choice, always pick freelance. that way you can do shit like watch porn, sleep, and take a walk without getting fired.
>Get involved in the underground music scene. These guys know how to fucking live.

>>2635607
How would you get into freelance without a mess though?

>>2633299
Can I buy your mountain of sketchbooks filled with nothing but circles?

>>2622264
I started late, I've done everything I could so far

I started drawing just 6 days ago, I'm 23 years old.

My advice to my past self is:

>Start drawing early, don't waste time, one day you'll regret disregarding art completely for so long just because your lines are wobbly and you can't make a stickman. Don't give up just because you see a small step in from of you, infact there's an endless staircase waiting to be climbed, with rewards on each step. Don't throw away what you draw, keep it on the step behind you to remind how you have improved when you'll be on the next one. And most importantly, do not be afraid of drawing because it might come out badly.

And that's how I regret wasting years of my life.
I'm 23 and making my 5th drawing right now, prior to this... fear, regret, and blank paper.

>>2622595
Thank u very much u changed my life

>Remember when you got serious about art so you could draw your own stories out? Yeah, don't forget to work on your writing too, retard.

>>2622264
Say yes when someone offers to buy you a drawing tablet.

>>2635642
Its never too late to make it brah

>>2636386
Hopefully.
I just regret never having picked up a pencil in years... I could've been somewhat good at this point, with a lot of work to look back to, feels like an incredible waste of time.

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>If you keep drawing animu portraits, you'll never improve
>quit whining about not having copics they're not that great
>pencils are better
>stop saying you know enough. it's never enough
>don't throw your scanner across the room in a fit of rage. you'll regret it
>get out of bed and draw something, you lazy asshole

>>2636562
>>don't throw your scanner across the room in a fit of rage. you'll regret it
Autism.

Use a scanner app then.

>>2636562

>pencils are better

Explain your reasoning.

>>2622269
Please explain.

>>2636606
>autism
>maybe

I was an angry 15 year old.

>>2636613
I can blend better with the pencils and it's more cost efficient than copics

>>2636761
Which pencils do you recommend?

>>2636768
I mostly use Prismacolor Premier colored pencils but for the ten years before I got those, I was using crayola. Blend them together with paint thinner and you can even get smooth gradients. I haven't been able to experiment with different brands because I'm poor

>draw from life, draw from life draw from life

>dont fucking try to have your own "special snowflake unique style you dumb fuck, you wasted so much freaking time with this dumb ass shit STOP THAT

>DONT LOOK UP TO SAKIMICHAN LOOK DOWN ON HER EVEN THOUGH YOUR ABSOLUTE SHIT YOURSELF

>fundamentals

>stop playing league u fgt

>stop playing so many games in general, what a waste of time you loser (except dark souls, play the living fuck outta that mah boi

>stop trying to create masterpieces until you have actually mastered the basics (anatomy perspective etc.)

>dont draw whats popular even if you dont like it (which you never did) draw whatever tf you want lol while you still can

>Drop STEM now and not 2.5 years in, it helps you gain a good work ethic but it'll also end up as a huge waste of money and you'll forget everything that you learned eventually. Also don't bother with Uni prices and take art classes at local venues and community colleges instead if you have to.
>Don't drain yourself with 8 hours of purely technical drills and study every day, you need to draw for creation's sake as well. You'll find that you'll tend to push your comfort zone more when you're constantly finding new things to draw, and you'll have stronger motivation behind it as well. If you keep a good balance you'll learn what you need to learn much faster.
>Go outside and draw from observation at every chance that you can, you'll find it breathtaking and challenging, and you'll also avoid a severe vitamin D deficiency. Also, keep drawing materials on hand at all times.
>Record or act on every strong idea as soon as you get them, you're not as creatively bereft as you think you're just lazy
>Loomis early and Loomis hard

>If talking to teenage/kid self, take your art classes and potential mentors/art buddies seriously and don't run away from your passions. Read more books, watch more films, fuck video games. Watch the ego.

>>2636905
I relate so much to the unique snowflake shit style

Don't pick up that blending stump you dumb fuck.

Creativity needs a stimulus. It can't be brute forced with nothing but a blank canvas. Look up CYOA threads in /tg/ to spark some ideas.

>Color is in the light, not the object

>>2637223
Well, yeah, but unless the light is reflecting off something you can't see it. That's like saying "there is water in the air", it's technically true, but I don't see how you can practically apply it in art.

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>>2637243
It's not a red cup, its a cup reflecting red light.

Point being, I find it easier to consider the color of the light before the object and color is relative, its not "red", it looks red next to "x".

Ultimately it was a realisation that I could paint things whatever color i pleased.

>>2626178
>Be me in seventh grade.
>School gets out early
>Wait for bus, with kids who make fun of me
>The bus finally arrives
>I frantically get on the bus
>Asshole kid unzips my knapsack
>Takes out my sketch pad and yells
>"Hey everyone, anon draws imaginary
>girlfriends."....
>He throws my sketchbook around the bus
>Everybody sees my hentai
>With speech bubbles that have my name
>Run off the bus and don't stop tell i get home
>Crying on my porch
>I remember my sketchpads still on the bus
>Life ruined

>>2639101
wew

>>2637243
I think gaugin said that that beginners think objects have one color, but the pros know that the color of an object is never static.

>>2639101
Holy shit lad, that's a tragic backstory worthy of a superhero.

>>2637361
>>2641053
Sweet loomis, my head is swirling with the possibilities of applying this knowledge. Is there a book/teacher that elaborates on this or is it just a part of general color theory? I'm still stuck with ink.

Don't draw anime. Don't. Fuckin'. Do it.

Do life drawing, it doesn't suck, and you'll suck if you ignore it.

Learn how to draw realism before you attempt stylization.

Draw every day. If you stop for one day, you'll notice the difference. If you stop for two days, other people will.

Don't take critique personally, even when phrased cruelly. Pretend it's advice from the grandmother you don't like much: bitchy, rude, and more often than not she has a good reason to say what she's saying.

>>2641068
Richard Schmids books on color and painting require multiple reads but you'll get acquire something new each time. Hit up the artbook thread or just buy it.

if your faces all look off in a similar way and you can't work out what you're doing wrong, try tracing faces to 'recalibrate' to what a realistic face looks like.

tracing also helps to practice what lines you do and don't use when drawing to capture a likeness in a face or what lines make a face look ugly or not, which things you should emphasise etc. it also works with figures.

i recommend anyone studying the figure/face to at least try it out once, i was surprised how much it helped me

>>2623105
>>2622615
oh the irony

>Stop worrying about school, everything will go to hell anyway
>Focus on drawing instead

>>2626477
this

>>2622264
give up and work a normal job
and get treated for your vidya addiction
you aint going anywhere with it

don't expect your 3/4 view faces to look normal if you can't even do accurate front or side views

>>2645537
>tfw WWIII happens

>>2633037
This only works for fetish porn.

>>2622264
Stick to aerospace engineering

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Advice given to me from my future self
God speed you beautiful bastard

>>2622264
>Take time to draw things you actually like
>there's more to art than building your portfolio
>please have some fun for once

>>2622264
STOP FUCKING TRACING SHITTY ANIME PICS YOU PRINTED OUT AND CLAIMING YOU MADE AN "OC" FUCKING HELL.

>>2647822
>I didn't stop doing this till last year
I'm disgusting

>>2647426
This is actually good advice desu