/beg/ - BEGINNER THREAD

can you guys post some more beginner. Friendly shit? Like still lives or portraits with strong lighting, this shit is mad difficult.

Could we get higher quality refs as well? These are killing me.

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I always get to about this point of a study when I notice all the mistakes and give up on life. Is there any point to continuing with flawed studies or is it more worthwhile to just move on (which is my normal response but it results in a lack of finished artwork)?

>>2610745
maybe you should fix ur mistakes before you get so far into your drawing man

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>>2610578

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>>2610576
you actually used it
you're the best fampai

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what can I do to make this look more like the subject that I intended? It's supposed to be bucky barnes but it looks too feminine. I've been stuck on him for weeks because nothing I do looks like him

>>2610867
how about studying a photo

>>2610869
I tried doing some photo studies but it didn't look very good either, very wonky... I wanted to do something a bit stylized. do you think I should stick to photos before doing a stylized pic?

>>2610774
Shit tier advice. Obviously he isn't noticing the mistakes until the picture comes together more. In that world an unexperienced five year old could paint better than Rembrandt.

>>2610857
the funny thing is, the hair actually doesn't look bad...

>>2610871
Study proportions from photos, if you can't understand what you're seeing you won't hit it by luck with 'your style'

>>2610891
>>2610869

It definitely looks better from a photo but it still looks dead. Any pointers?

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>>2610905
forgot pic

>>2610907

Nice ref

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>>2610615

>>2610907
when you look at the reference photo do you just go "oh yeah his eyes and mouth are as big as his ear so im gonna draw it that way" or why are you drawing it so poorly?

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I tried

>>2610927
thanks for the constructive criticism

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>>2607193
I gotta be a wage slave in the morning so I'm just gonna post as is and hope I can finish/fix this tomorrow based on what ya'll tell me.

My number one priority was to try and avoid symbol drawing. I think the pupils are pretty bad in that respect, but if something else seems to be an issue please yell at me.

>>2610934
love the eyes, I think the nose is the part that needs the most work though. Also the region above the lip is kind of busy but in the ref it's not i think?

>>2610907
can you post ref please thank.

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>>2610939
It's the largest I could find, sorry. also
>ifunny

>>2610933
your welcome

>>2610934
You're using lines where there should be soft shadows. For example, the laugh line is very soft, especially on the right side of his face. The hyperbolic harshness of the lines takes away from the depth of the face.

>>2610942
thank you i will try my best to make a good drawing with that ref

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>>2610907
Not sure if I'm good enough to be giving advice but hey, I wanted to practice faces anyway. Hopefully you get something out of it.
First, turn the reference / canvas if you need to, there is no point in drawing with a reference if you are not using it. The angle of the face is different, probably because of that.
Watch out for the size and position of the ear. The side of the head is too long.
The lips should be way bigger and closer to the nose.
Draw the beard and make the hair longer, shorter eyebrows
Pay attention to the gesture.

>>2610985
why did you make his eyes nearly twice the size?

>>2610997
oh yeah, I see it now. Oops

>>2610907


Trace a loomis/hampton stlye 3d form over it. Sometimes the only thing missing is good old fashioned muscle memory.

Is it okay to copy reference pictures as a beginner? I'm not tracing in the sense of putting a picture under a piece of paper, but ultimately none of the picture I've drawn is of my own creative intent.

Am I shooting myself in the foot by practicing this way?

>>2611010
if you want to be xerox machine then no
if you want to know how to draw your own stuff than obviously yes

>>2611012
Alright thanks. I'll move on with my studies past page 3 of Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain then, lel

Have any of you ever taken Adderal? Does it harm your ability to stay in the 'artist mindset'? I've got ADHD and I can't seem to stay focused to any particular art project at a time. I'm wondering if it might be my meds

>>2611010
id advise against listening to the other anon. its ok to copy reference pictures if you think past copying and think in more of how the forms work in the particular pose youre drawing (or how the lighting works in the landscape youre painting etc etc)

>>2610779
Place your phone directly above the page before taking the shot. It looks like your drawing has her looking straight ahead when in fact she is looking downward.

>>2611010
you should use reference as a beginner. how else would you know your wrong.

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>>2610580
I tried.

>>2611106
you could have done just the darker tones sticking the best that you can to the ref.
if you pay attetion the ref doesn't have that those outlines.

>>2611106
Nice, but use a different pencil. Looks like you're using hb or h

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>>2611137
isn't nice dude, that's symbol drawing.

>>2611106
i don't wanna post the "draw what you see" image again

>>2611106
Guy who posted it here; thanks for the feedback.
Looks like i have to practice harder.

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>>2611106

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>>2611163

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fuck that shit, i tried my best.

I'm going through keys to drawing and I'm at the measuring section where you're supposed to use measuring and finding the midpoint to draw a real life model (he recommends using your friend or something). Any good alternatives for practising measuring? I don't like the idea of making my friend pose for 30 minutes for me to make a shitty drawing.

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is the arm anatomy ok>

>>2611228
>how do i find image
>what is internet

"The color of the shadow is the sum of all the sources of reflected illumination, combined with the local color of the object itself." Color and Light, page 67. Can someone explain what he means by the sum? How are you supposed to mix that?

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Any comments? Left drawing is my first one. Then revisited it a few days later.

and yeah I don't know how to draw hands yet

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>>2611345
>body guides
>for referenced work

>>2611347
?

>>2611350
What I said. You are following the rules to draw from imagination rather than life

>>2611352
"rules"? i don't see a problem if it helps. Unless you mean the head in which I could possibly concede.

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>>2611353
You have no idea what the fuck am I talking about don't you?

>>2611357
probably not, try typing with less unintelligible babble and reddit images

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>>2611360
I'm saying that you haven't read a book or anything regarding drawing from life yet you are attempting it.

>>2611345
Why your lines so dark?

>>2611372
Mechanical pencil + sketchbook with moderately rough paper (110gsm)

I only really draw lightly if i'm not sure on the line

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just came back from vacation, apparently i forgot how to draw again. did this last night thoughts?

>>2611463
also im aware of the hideous face

>>2611347
>implying that applying construction to referenced work doesn't help you to better understand your subject

You do realize that guidelines come as a RESULT of recognizing common shapes and paths through drawing from life and weren't created in a vacuum by the people who write artbooks, right?

>>2611463
knees and core look good desu

>>2611463
wht's with the bulging tumor on right arm

>>2611521
some kind of shadow made by the edge of the bicep, the boob and poor draftmanship

i wanna become an animator should o start bylearing to draw on paper first and then switch to digatel or just go digatel

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>>2611360
don't pay any attention to him, he's baiting you. you're on the right track. focus on breaking your symbol drawing.

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Uuuuuugh yes, I can feel myself improving.

>>2611554
what is wrong with you?

>>2611566
I have the spark, don't you see it? Someone else in here told me, and I knew I was destined ever since.

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>>2611554
SPARK METER: 4000%

>>2611586
cute af m8

>>2611591
thanks family man, if you have any negatives tho that'd be even better

>>2611586

HERE

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>>2610578
not even close

>>2611586
lookin solid even if nose is a bit off. can definitely feel the form. smuggest frog ive ever seen

>>2611599
The chin is quite far out. Draw/imagine a straight line following the forehead and the whole plane of the face and see how the chin related to this flat plane in your image and the ref.

Maybe that's a bad way to explain it. Imagine the face as a flat plane with no features and then add the curvature of the facial features, going either in or out from this plane.

>>2611137
What's wrong with hb?

>>2611602
Ah gross I completely forgot about the nose it seems, it's way off, thanks.

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one day I'll be able to fully complete a study

>>2611586
Were you trying to copy it exactly or was the reference just a guide line?

>>2611200
This is shit dude, you're not gonna make it.

>>2611603
thank you for the great critique, also i saw all the mistakes once i saw my pic. nose is to short and the nose to the chin is to forward. the fingers i just sketched to quickly. the forehead is slightly off or i need to relook at the hairline, also the eye is slightly to big and the shading is kinda a mess, i mean i hit a couple of key points, but im trying to get back into art, its been a couple years!

>>2611621
looks good so far, keep going!
the only thing i could say is that the tentacles are too close to the head of the octopus. especially on the left tentacle, where you have most of the detail!

>>2610985
hey, thanks!! I'm gonna try that same drawing later tody. How did you get the nose so well?

>>2611005
you mean take the photo and draw over it?

>>2611606
not the same anon, but my guess is that hb doesn't give the same range of darkness

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Should I bother finishing this turd or start something new? Also if not what I can do to fix this mess I started.

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Please help me. I've neglected /ic/ for years and now I plea for your help. Critique this please. I'm going to eventually paint it, this is just the rough rough sketch, but I need help.

>>2611679
Go ahead and finish it. Any suggestion I have is that the hands are a bit too big. Especially her right hand and her large index finger. Also, her right brest is the same shade of grey as the grass. That's a shading problem in which the each layer of the picture should have a different darkness/lightness. Like how your deer is dark. Make the trees in the background dark too and some of the grass and I think that'll help it out.

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>>2611698
>>2611701

Take your name off next time you want to samefag.

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>>2611475
>applying construction to referenced work help you to better understand your subject
How so?
You have all you need in the reference. You are supposed to do axis from points you can get a grid drawing/reference points/etc and mesure the height and weight with your pen(cil) and/or fingers. Using techniques like the one posted before work well in non-referenced work but from life just seem like a shitty and imprecise way to copy that would only get on the way and be overkill if you added it as a plus to the mentioned techniques.

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ben urich - daredevil
It's crap, but I'm content with it.

>>2611703
I think they were trying to reply to >>2611679
but accidentally selected their own post.

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>>2611679
>>2611701
Here, like this.

>>2611703
I don't actually care.

>>2611706

Install vilppu.exe

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>>2611710
>I DON'T ACTUALLY CARE

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>>2610580

It doesn't look it now but I did a construction underneath with pencil before coloring. I kept fucking up the eyes so bad that after 3 full erasure they look lIke symbols even though I constructed them. Also I suck at color theory, clearly

>>2611737

wow seeing this as a photo really makes it clear how bad I fucked up. wew lads I'm here in /beginner/ for a while

>>2611701
>>2611710
Thanks budd - alright ill give it another session or two and just pump it out. Im really getting tired looking at this piece. Appreciate the help.

>>2611751

It's not as bad as you think, but just stick to construction and anatomy for a while before focusing on rendering. The worse part is the mouth so maybe draw a bunch of those?

>>2611706

I think the was to understand the subject, not make a copy of the ref. When figure drawing it's recommended to actually build up the figure using basic forms instead of just measuring and laying down lines.

Why was artfag banned from hubpages?

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Gesture skill has gone down lower than it already is...

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>>2610774
That would obviously be the ideal, but like the other anon said, I don't really notice the mistakes until I start fleshing out the details.

Anyway I got a bit further with this one - I can't make the freckles look nice though.

>>2611814
I dunno what I'm talking about so take with the obligatory bucket of salt, but for gesture drawing it feels like you're trying to cram too many different details and lines in without connecting them to the overall form - they lack coherence and fluidity. Maybe you could try focusing more on a central line of movement, and building the form around that. There's some nice stuff in there though, I like the three in the top right!

I think I'm starting to get the loomis head :'^)

>>2611629

Post your art, go fuck yourself.

>>2611857
stop being triggered by shitposts

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>>2611857
Your art is shit, you little faggot, that garbage doesn't have any kind of proportion and shading is utter shit.
You should fucking kill yourself.

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This is the first time I have ever put pencile to paper to draw something.
Be honest should I just cut my hands off right now or is there hope?

>>2611534
which part is symbol drawing? The collar bone/face? (legit question)

I tried to be as accurate as the reference as possible but this guy is right >>2611811 i was mostly trying to understand the subject, not do a 1:1 copy of the reference. I suppose it's partially my fault in that regard.

>>2611913
No.

Keep at it, faggot.

>>2611913
>Be honest should I just cut my hands off right now or is there hope?

To any other beginners who say/think this, no one became good overnight, there is no "no hope", only people who have put in different amounts of time. Unless you actually have a learning disability then there is always hope.

>>2611913
just stop doing dumbass Lumis/sticky bullshit it'll make you hate drawing faster that having your hands cut off. Just draw from life and reference photos of shit you want to draw that way you wont lose as much motivation. Also draw random shit for fun every once in awhile to remind yourself that you actually enjoy it haha. Good luck! Keep drawing!

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Just made this, I'm done with it as far as I'm concerned but I want it to be torn apart so I know what to look out for next time. Thanks /ic/ I know I can count on you.

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I'm studying the muscle groups on "Figure drawing for all it's worth"
Any additional tips?
Pic related
I know it's shitty

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>>2610577
Played around with the brightness and contrast because the original picture was shit.

So now you can get a clearer look at my shitty drawing

And yes I realize that hand is super shit, pretend it doesn't exist

>>2611981
Use darker shading mang

>>2611961
The thumb has three sections to it. Not two.

>>2611990
Whoops. Missed that, thanks

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>>2610581
The jaw is off and the space between eye and ear is way too narrow. I also have no idea how to approach the beard.

Probably gonna end up abandoning this one.

>>2611998
Looks good to me. Just use darker tones for the shadows and fill in the dark spots in the beard, the rest can be hinted by some more shading

>>2612003
Not sure if that made any sense tho

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This is effectively a representation of where I'm at in Hampton's Design and Invention and Vilppu's Drawing manual. How's everything looking so far? I'm not done learning yet, I just thought some critique on what I've got so far would be helpful along the way.

The bottom right is shit though, I tried to use the bean with Hampton's technique as opposed to to separating the rib cage and pelvis from the start.

>>2612022
>bottom right
meant to say bottom left, although that doesn't exclude bottom right being shit

>can draw decent faces for portraits
>always a litthe off but through grinding I am getting the hang of everything
>try to do heads and faces in a full body drawing
>scrunched up to hell and back

>>2612027
>does something new
>whines about being shit at it
>instead of practicing it to GIT GUD

>>2612035
I am practicing by drawing about 20 small heads a day on top of 2-3 full body drawings

>>2612022
Keep on going. Refine your knowledge of muscles and all that bullshit but remember to practice gesture drawings as well. Nothing is worse than a detailed, correctly-drawn body that is as stiff as a board.

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It hurts anon.

>>2611938
Why are you posting in the beginner thread?

>>2611200
On your way to the xerox heaven!

>>2611938
This the beginner thread. ADEPT LEAVE

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friends i have about 8-9 weeks. can you help me help myself improve?

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>>2612188
it seems you have a very analytical approach to studying art; try to work from the other end with a more free, less perfectionist way of approaching lines and shapes
pic sort of related

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>>2612205
What the fuck is that senpai? also how do i turn off my brain and the interior screaming function?

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Studying from Gottfried Bammes' book, it's getting kinda tedious, though I clearly need the practice.

>>2611917
>>2611919
>>2611929
Thanks for the support I'll try drawing something else later. :)

>>2611628
Just a guide, weren't trying to go for a photocopy or anything. I think my results usually turn out better when I don't completely slave after a ref.

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>>2611913
My first few drawings were bad.
Senpai my first few entire sketchbooks were bad.
Some people just don't start good, my off days still outnumber my good ones, but it's like weight lifting. Each hour you do is another chip off the wall of the hundreds/thousands it might take. If you really want to get good at drawing, if you really like drawing, you'll keep going.

I remember that exercise from Right Side Of The Brain. Not a bad book, I went through it when I started too. I suggest not following it with Loomis however, had much more luck with other books, but don't worry 'bout that yet.

Need a suggestion. Been doing those Dynamic Sketching weekly lessons by Peter Han, with the toned paper sketchbook and all, but is there an alternative technical pen that doesn't give out too easily? I know Staedler is suggested in the videos, but those are among the most expensive of tech pens and I wanna know if any others are just as good or should just bite the bullet and use those.

>>2612252
You could just use a pencil
Or a real pen for technical drawing

>>2610745
Thom?

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Now this is going to sound very stupid, but whatever. i have drawn this thing, now how do i draw it again, in different angles. I cant seem to place the dimensions of the head/proportions properly.

>>2612638
Simplify it into the five core shapes. That way you can draw it at any angle or even his head blown into pieces. Details come later.

>>2612669
five core shapes? is that an art term like "oh man the head is just a polygon bro" or do you mean his head broken into five basic shapes.

Whats the pest way for me to increase the creepy atmosphere here? I want it to feel like this place is really torn down and haunted. Thanks /beg/

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>>2612691
Forgot the picture duhhh

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I have the same problem as >>2612638
except with hair.
I asked around here some time ago, but I still can't seem to figure it out.
I have this side view of the hair that I want, but I can't seem to translate it to front or back view.
She doesn't have a mohawk; then again, it's hard to describe.

>Should I give up on trying to make it make sense, or should I try to make this work?
I really like how it looks though.

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>>2612671
Taken from Peter Han's Dynamic Bible

>>2612692
Fog or making your picture colder with a filter. Play around with cold color overlays. Greens, blues, etc.

>>2612698
thank you

>>2612695
Stop drawing symbols, that's not alright.

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>>2612707
but anon, that's his style

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>>2612707
>>2612708
>welcome to /beg/
but you guys know I'm not talkin about the figure, I'm talking about the hair. the hair I came up with as a side view, but I dunno how it would look like in a front view.
I figured on different views, but front and back view are awkward.
It's fine if you don't like my drawings, but that' wasn't my question

>>2612711
It's fine
I'll try to figure on my own.
Didn't think it'd hurt to ask, so i asked

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>just exaggerate the pose bro

How can I exaggerate this in a gesture drawing?

>>2612711
what about start doing more normal hair instead of complex retarded hair? You can't because you can't do complex forms in prespective, treat them as you did with cones that you put on the forehead. It is easier to assimilate from the simple, before you start doing hedgehog hair, also think in bananas.

>>2612719
I think it's mostly cause it's Goku hair. Retard anime hair makes no sense. So yeah, maybe scrapping and sticking to something that makes more sense would be better.
I have a better understanding of how "normal" hair works, and yeah, the bananas are hanging from the sides of her temples.
I guess you mean have the bananas stick from behind her head going up?
It's retarded.

>>2612715
flexing stomach in, making back more arched, making knees bend more, make head portrude more forward. I wish I could pencil you something real quick, easier than just telling you.

>>2612715
just go with the flow maan, you gotta feeel the drawing. but actually id just try some easier poses if youre trying to learn anatomy from those models, just stop you arent gonna learn the shape that way, mainly because its unclear what the shape of the actual muscles are in these 3d poses because you cant tell the direction of light and shadow. because their isnt any.

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>>2612715
emphasise stuff like the red curves, shit that flows like winding river bends

>>2611586
>2611347
oh shit waddup, dat fundamentals

>>2611698
you may want to re sketch it the composition is all over the place, try to use concepts such as line of power and incorporate it into the sketch stage, remember that most concept artists/painters have around 5-10 skeches before they choose one that they will finish you should do even more.

>>2611737
>>2611781
and they symbol drawn eyes! don't forget the eyes! they are one of the first thing people look at.

>>2612725
>>2612727
>>2612728
thanks brehs

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>>2612715
here's my attempt

>>2612022
The gesture technique Hampton bases his whole book on doesn't seem very present, you should try to make sure its present throughout the whole book, really nail it in.

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CBC news is the only site that's not blocked at work, so I tried to draw Trudeau on a sticky note.

>>2612746
I can see, and quite like what you've gone for. But think maybe you went a little far with the hips?
Nice conviction with your lines though, you commit to those strokes, good to see.

>>2612828

it's unfinished. cum all over it first. that's the way leafman likes his media mixed

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>>2612838
Went a little too far? In gesture? Nah.

>>2612868
Arms are fucked and whole figure is off balance

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>>2612855
wat

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>>2610942
wow i made the left eye huge

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Hopefully some nsfw isn't minded. Not only am I a noob of a few months but this is my first time drawing entirely digital.

I know the hands/feet and dick are kinda fucked. I'm still getting the hang of the first two and the dick was sort of an afterthought I plopped in after it was mostly done. I'd just like some tips/pointers whatever anyone can give me. Redlines would be appreciated too.

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First time using Gouache (or painting in general.) Surprisingly much more fun than drawing.

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>>2612962

ref

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>>2610581
I'm (not) trying

>>2612962
>>2612963
>first time
i hate you

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>>2612962
The strokes on this wall destroy the impression of perspective, flatten the image and make it look cartoony.
They ought to be in pointing towards the vanishing point, which would make a stronger impression of a row of bricks.

>>2612188
more advice on this please.

>>2612988
Nice. You gave him jew nose

>>2613080

Good point. Thanks!

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Beginner here. What am I doing wrong?

>>2613181
Except the fact I'm an idiot who forgot to resize my image. Soz.

>>2613181
lacking meaningful head construction

forms are fairly weak, you don't seem to know how to simplify the figure.

lines aren't very good either, also your figure is pretty stiff

here's a pescription of proko for head construction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EPNYWeEf1U

proko also has videos on gesture, drawing basic forms, and simplifying the figure into basic forms.

>>2613181
Symbol drawing.
Instead of drawing things the way they actually look, you're drawing what your faulty memory thinks a drawing of that thing is supposed to look like. Start off by learning how to see, and draw from reference to learn how to draw real people, then you can start simplifying that.

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Third time trying to draw this fucker. Things I can see are wrong:

>Left eye is rotated
>The entire nose
>The entire mouth

I think I got the face shape though. Crit?

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Here's the image I used as reference for >>2613192

>>2611010
Trace everyday and when you close your eyes you should see naked men every night and when your not even drawing a mans butt will still be there, begging for a caress. Long after you've made it, dreams of tracing boipussy will enchant and remind you of the good old days. Bare ass bears will start to appear in all shapes, across every still life and merc.wip, the patterns may not be there, but your heart always will.

>>2613192

Look at his eyes. In the pic his left eye is lower due to perspective. In yours his left eye is higher. Your perspective is completely off

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>>2613181

>>2613223
wouldnt call that an improvement

>>2613223
>bigger eyes and bigger tits
great redline m8

>>2613223
Same fundamental mistakes persist.

>>2613181
draw something from reference and post again

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is copying my favorite artist helping improvement?

i'm tired copying photo's and drawing fuckton of floating head from imagination
honestly i don't have many anatomy knowledge but before grinding, i'm gonna copy and learn first

>>2613232
>>2613233
>>2613240

You're all wrong

Thats why none of you bothered to "correct" me.

its perfect now. deal with it. gg

>>2613251

yeah it will. or just using reference.

>>2613251
>is copying my favorite artist helping improvement?
i think so yeah

Is the position in which you draw important? I like drawing lying down on my bed with the tablet by my right and the laptop on my stomach

Are we gonna make it D/ic/ks?

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>>2613192
>>2613213
Is this better?

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>>2610580
Anything fundamentally wrong with my lay-in

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>>2613192
I've attempt this, anyone want to red line it

why is it so hard to motivate myself. i want to get faces down mane

>>2612711
try thinking about it as if it were real hair and not anime. then try imagining how that would work and do a stylized version of that.

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>>2613282
F-finished guys

Where can I improve besides everywhere?

>>2612188
>>2613085
spend those 8-9 weeks drawing whenever you can
push yourself to try new things as much as you can, that's what made me improve much faster than i used to.

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>>2613321
I first suggest you read the OP

>>2613181
you're attempting to draw a stylized person, but you don't have a grasp on the fundamentals. this is why >>2613223 is a futile effort, in order to 'fix' your drawing, he would have to draw a completely new figure all-together, and it probably wouldn't be in-line with what you wanted to do in the first place.

it's fine if you want to do these drawing for fun while studying your fundamentals, but understand that there will be no 'fixing' or redlines that will help until you improve to a level where your figures have a good base that we can work from.

>>2613326
also, I understand that >>2613223 is probably a troll, but it's still a good example to bring up for argument.

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>>2613324
Lets try this again

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>>2613335
2

>>2613291
looks a bit like the dude from a ha but I like it more than mine

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>>2613181

>>2613356
is red(green)lining like shit a new meme?

>>2613356
now her head is too big for her body

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Going through the first few exercise from drawabox. I literally want to kill myself when doing them. Anyone done drawabox does it get more fun?

>>2613403
I dunno, if you don't consider lines fun will you enjoy boxes?

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>>2613181
>>2613326
>>2613332
>>2613369

>>2613322
would it be a good idea to temporarily move from faces to bodies, animals, machines etc?

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Would anyone be kind enough to draw some boxes in very extreme positions?

I need to understand how to bend boxes to see both planes(ie. bending sideways and backwards).

Attached image is helpful and I reference it frequently but I'm looking for more examples to study the form of a bent cube.

>>2613403
A little reminder since you are tackling those. These exercises are not meant to be one and done, even after he sees and approves of them. You are still gonna be doing these everyday as part of your warm up routine. Noone masters lines and ellipses that easily. Luckily you don;t have to do all of the exercises, just a few lines and ellipses before starting the new lessons.

>>2613420
check out the vilppu drawing manual there are a lot of boxes and shapes in there

>>2613420
pick up an eraser and bend it a lot, observe it and try to draw it

>>2613516
uh

>>2613581
same

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thoughts so far?

>>2613649
is this a joke lmao

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ooga

>>2612214
Basically I think it means you are trying to make things perfect even though you know its going to be shit. For me I can't help but SEE everything wrong with what I am drawing but still can't fix it.

>>2613416
dragoart please go

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Been doing the brush exercises from CtrlPaint, not all that impressive but was fun. I much prefer digital painting to gouache and acrylic.

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>>2613649
The torso is to small
The legs are too long
Megaman feet
The foreshortening in that left arm ate his sleeves
tl;dr: Learn to draw, then ask for things to improve.

>>2613223
>>2613356
>>2613416
Is this a new meme or just delusional

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>>2610583
Can I get any advice here on how to get better at painting?

>>2613812
No

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I'm not super happy with this. Honest critiques?

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>>2611781
>>2612742

Working on it!

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>>2613181

you lack anatomy

>>2613843

has very low definition. Push the form of the nose and lips more, and build up contrast in the eye area / define the eyes better.

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Thinking of painting this, can I get some feedback on the initial sketch?

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tried something new with the lines

>>2613868
upper half of arm holding his neck is too short

>>2613869
What's going on with her left hand and arm? Dat hair tho, dayuuuum.

>>2613812
Study basic proportions and utilise construction before you paint.

>>2613762
>gouache
> A method of painting with opaque watercolors mixed with a preparation of gum.

Fuck that sounds annoying to work with.

>>2613893

it's surprisingly easy actually, you start with your lowest opacity colors/midtones and work more opaque until you reach a near-acrylics layer. You can rewet and blend easy. You can rewet and pick up paint with a towel. And if you need extreme, precise darks or lights, you can use black and white charcoal once it dries, since it dries matte and doesn't impasto much at all.

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>>2613870
Really? As far as I can tell, it's the same length as the other arm. It's definitely whack though, I'll fix it up.

>>2613869
Her arm is kinda fucky and the part where the hair meets the neck is odd - makes the neck look really frail or like there's hair growing out of her jaw. It's really nice though, what are you doing in the beginner thread?

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h-hi...

>>2613907
Your values aren't bad but you need to work on proportion.

>>2613904
The length of the arm is fine.

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>>2613877
fixed the arms, she's supposed to be grabbing her pocket i guess i'm not sure what i'm doing here really
>>2613904
agree, the hair looked weird so gave her braids hehe.

>>2613904
no the other half. just nitpicking though it looks good

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>>2612746

>>2613932
Ah, I see it now, thanks! The whole arm is pretty off from the reference so I'll redraw it anyway.

>>2613921
Looks way better, braids are cute af

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I think I got the anatomy right

>>2614041
you need to fix your line quality. those look way too scratchy.

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Is lasso tool -> air brush a good way to render things in photoshop? Most of the time I've just used a normal brush at <50% opacity, and layer it down, but it looked like an unclean mess. Are there any other ways to render that you can share? Here's what I'm working on.

>>2614136
not the way you're doing it desu. airbrush is awful for rendering. best way is to lay down different colors with a 100% opacity brush and render it with eyedrop tool to pick in between colous. i recommend watching speedpaint videos on youtube to get an idea of how this is done.
you also seem to not be noticing different colors in your reference, try eydropping colours from the pic and compare it to the colours you're using. like there seems to be more yellow around her neck and her elbow has hints of red that you aren't capturing.

>>2613921


KILL IT WITH FIRE

>>2614041
Dat gyno

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working on fun with a pencil and the blooks are giving me shit. I just wanna draw people. Went through keys to drawing and im also going through perspective made easy now. Any suggestions on books to learn heads and figures from? i wanna try more than loomis

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>>2614145
Something like this?

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>>2614264

>>2614264
My favorite girl.

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Any criticism before continuing on?

>>2614279
Ear is way too high

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>>2610576

>>2614279
mouth and nose are too wide

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no ref, how bad is it?

>>2614371
Right looks like a midget. Looks pretty good other than that.

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any hope for this what so ever

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im stuck

what do I do

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>>2610576
How do I go from point A to point B?

I came accross the "furries pay hundreds of dollars for ych commissions" phenomenon and want to make some money selling furfag art.
I obviously want to trace from existing porn to make it easier and quicker, but I've only ever drew on paper before and I'm used to making long lines out of little ones but this looks like shit if done with a drawing tablet.
And I suck at drawing decent long lines.

Are there any good exercises for this or do I just draw thousands of lines until I git gud?

>>2614273
>girl

>>2614480
>lines
Google Peter Han on YT, he's got some useful exercises for improving your lines.

>>2614486
Thanks, checking it out right now

>>2614441
Hey, that's pretty get a better camera.

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shit, i think im fucking up on proportions and i succ at the back

>>2614520
"Loomis," or just google head proportions and aim for 8 heads tall.

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>>2614441
Please excuse my line quality, but this is a bit of a red line for you. For the most part the upper half of the face is decently accurate but you sort of lost it around the jaw.
It seems like you made his jaw and neck area muuuch wider than it is in real life.
This resulted in Idubbbz looking more like cobalt cobra than the skinny fuck he is. Notice how his cheeks are quite concave in the reference and his whole head makes almost a triangle shape from that angle.
I think what would help you most is continuing to draw from reference, but practice thinking of your subject as shapes to be copied, and don't try to stray from what the reference tells you, even if it looks weird at first.

>>2614480
practice harder than you think you need to for a year or maybe 2

after that, you'll have an idea on how to somewhat get started on how to get to point B

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i tried. can someone explain to me how to shape my thing better? im struggling to break him down.

>>2614715
Your lines are epileptic. Clean that up first.

>>2614736
No.

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how to not paint ugly shit?

>>2614826
>>2614826
>>2614826

NEW THREAD

>>2614826
>>2614826
>>2614826

>>2614615
Fuck
What if the furfag market collapses by then?
I gotta pay muh bills

>>2614875
>furfag market
>ever collapsing

ess emm aych senpapi

>>2614888
Alright then what if actual skilled artists realize these manchildren have neetbux they're willing to spend and there isn't enough people willing to draw for them? [spoiler]since they obviously can't draw for themselves because they're too busy roleplaying and pissing their fursuits [/spoiler]
I'm worried about practicing how to draw canine penises for 2 years then ending up in an overly competitive furry market that won't let me succeed

Every few months I just decide "fuck it, go down to HobbyCraft and buy some expensive bullshit and get into drawing," then I get home, attempt a bit, realise I'm complete shit and just faff about until I give up.

H E L P
E
L
P

>>2615040
>expensive bullshit

pencil and paper?

But really you are going to suck, see the sticky and do exercises.

>>2615059
You don't understand this place has insane prices. I buy the most expensive crap they have like the £7.50 pen.

>>2614744
Try doing a self portrait.

>>2614744
choose better colors first

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I hope I resized it enough

>>2615128
aw

>>2615185

ops wrong thread

>>2614744
try doing simpler poses first. This one seems too complicated, with an unusual fov and the hand in an unusual position, and the open mouth.

>>2614477
I like the pose, but it's all way too washed out. Try doing the background first, even if it's just one color with a light source, and then to the subject.

The lines are a bit too light, unless you're going to color her in eventually, and the stripes of cloth don't look like they're flowing, they just look like jagged lines. Try copying the cloth positino from a photo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJUTOgyWnio

What do you think?

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>kill....me....

what am i doing wrong

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>>2618117
Someone wants to redline this?

>>2618107
I think the face is way too bland, the eyes looked a bit dead, being just 3 lines and all. Also the colors you used for the clothes were a bit ??? like, i don't think they go together. but other than that,i really like it.

>>2618131
Thank you for attention! You made an interesting remark. Also, what do you think about the proportions of the face?

>>2618138
its definitely proportionate from a stylized point of view. The nose is cute and the eyes and mouth are in place. You could try drawing larger, so you have more space to work on the face.

also, the reflection on the bottom of the shirt is the same color of the shirt. It would look better if it had a bit of the color of the shorts, since the light is hitting the shorts, which is reflecting the teal color, which is then hitting the shirt, so it becomes illuminated with teal on the bottom

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>>2618124

i redid it :^)