Art progress thread

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was depressed for a long time. Now 25. Wonder if i'll ever get to a proffesional level.

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I am reasonably happy with the progression, but still it's not what I want.

>>2577608

Keep working, then.

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>>2577205
the left was made June 26, 2013. exactly 3 years today. the one on the right was from 2 weeks ago.

>>2577613
You cover a photo with shitty strokes, this is just sad.

>>2577613
That really does look like you're just drawing over a photo, and this is in no way a compliment. Even if you did actually draw that from a ref (or from scratch) you killed it. Definitely an improvement though, keep it up.

>>2577613
Can you draw something for me?

>>2577613
fuck, when comes the time to post works, this place shows to be just full of weebs and photobashers. Anon, seppuku now.

>>2577617
>>2577620
>>2577628
i didn't think i was anywhere near a level where this would start happening yet lol, thank you guys

>>2577633

It's not a compliment broseph, even if you did draw it all from scratch.

>>2577613
Lol am i the only one who thinks this isnt a photobash? Even if it is, that is definitely an attainable level of progress lmao

>>2577639
Oh i remember when you posted that dripping dog picture. Man, the beginning of 2015 really shows a decline in quality. What happened?

>>2577643
i was working on other study at the time, last year of a degree and stuff.
not much time to work on my own stuff.

>>2577205
So basically I cherry pick the worst drawing I did on January 2014 and the best on December 2015 and say it's only been a year of progress?

>>2577677
Yes anon. Every single artist in the world is out to trick you and deceive you, but you are such a smart cookie that you see right through their feeble attempts.

>>2577640

People aren't calling it a photobash/paintover because it looks too good to be drawn. They're calling it that because it looks like one.
There's a visible difference between a painting that achieves realism, and a photo that's been painted over. Even if it's the former and just looks like the latter, that's a problem.

>>2577613
Can you post reference, pls.

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>>2577639

You're progress makes me sad every time I see it, Anon. The only thing that would make it better is that you atleast enjoy what you do.

>>2577639

keep it up with the perspective studies

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June was a relatively productive month.

Still working on making less red dots.

>>2580209
you're peaking, study more life please.

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>>2577205

Stay away from meth.

>>2580209
went from "not this weeboo crap, plase stop" to very good art

what do you use to learn how to draw mechanical stuff? like what references to get good at drawing robot type things?

>>2580216
>study more life
Oi, I'm finally in the mood to draw more stuff from imagination. I can never please /ic/...

>>2580223
>good
That word is taboo around here, I'd be wary throwing it around.

>mechanical stuff
I just really like robotics. I used to build a lot of Gundams which are good for spatial visualization of joints and panel separations.

It's like if you like tits, you will probably spend extra care and time to draw them perfectly to your liking. Just replace tits with robots. The converse is also true. I hate looking at people's faces, and I do a shit job drawing them - unless those faces are turtle.fish.paint faces... I digress

>>2580409
you really need to get out of your comfort zone. you're regressing

>>2577639
tripfag has been drawing for EIGHT YEARS??

>>2580415
His landscapes seem to be progressing, only the giant muscle Lolis are the same

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Not mine, but it is always truly inspiring

>>2580424
longer than that mane.

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Also not mine

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>>2580054
Guess i need to draw more cute anime girls, cus thats how you make it, right?

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Am I gonna make it?

>>2580474
Don't get mad dude, you just have to push yourself al least a little. I used to follow your LAS and that was pure useless garbage for your progress

>>2577613
damn that only took three years? YOURE A FUCKING MACHINE.

>>2580622
>what it looks like to actually practice and not just talk about it.

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>>2577613

>from 2 weeks ago

lolcow user detected.

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>>2577613
>>2580779
>Photo looks more like a trace to me than the actual trace

What the fuck is wrong with my eyes?

>>2580732
Except not. The right image doesn't say much of anything about how talented the artist is. It's just a blob of spikes and shadows. It's a for effort. Don't show no practice.

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My art actually devolved because I stopped practicing for two years because depression. Don't be like me.

>>2580923
it didn't devolve, it wasn't good at all in the first place.

>>2580923
fucking gay

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>>2577613
>people praising tracing
god damn /ic/, are you doing it on purpose

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>>2580937
sorry

>>2580947
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>>2580923
>>2580622
>>2580481
Uninspired trash

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>>2577613
I am not saying that you could not of drawn this and made a lot of progress but the skill set behind this progression is very uneven. The drawing lines up with the photo very well. The colors are exactly the same, but spread out in different intensity. The brush strokes look terrible.

How could some one have such a good eye for drawing and color, but have the strokes of a chimpanzee with Parkinsons. That is what we are debating. People dont generally nail one thing with 100% accuracy and then entirely lack an adjacent skill set.

Pic below shows them overlaid and the palette.

>>2577639
>February 2015 was over a year ago

>>2577639

All I'm seeing is that you got less creative over time

>>2580216

Anyone who studies life gets told they're becoming human photocopiers, anyone who draws from imagination / stylize is told they need to study more from life.

>>2581053
I don't see what's wrong with that statement and that's no reason to ignore >>2580216 advice. Do you draw from life? if not start drawing from life.

>>2581077

I'm not tableguy, but I draw from life almost exclusively and I'm shit at imagination drawing, which is why I can appreciate somebody working on their imagination drawing rather than just pumping out studies like a lot of /ic/. I'm merely making an observation. Getting out of your comfort zone always means temporary shortfalls as you get used to something, "draw more from life" is not the magic fix-all solution to learning to draw from imagination, you actually need to practice drawing from imagination.

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Left is from 2011 and right is from yesterday

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>>2580209
tableguy, how did you get so good in a ridiculously short amount of time? It fucking kills me, because I haven't progressed nearly as much. In 2014, I was where you were 2013, but I'm still not where you were towards the tail end the next year, when you started using copics.
Please, teach me your ways.
Pic related

>>2580976

It doesn't look like a trace to me but I think you guys are being a little rough on him/her, it's certainly not awful. I'm assuming for the colour palette they just used the eyedropper and ripped the colours direct.

>>2581122
It says right there. He studied and referenced images and other artists.

>>2581140
nice meme

>>2581140
Alright, I'll try to do that, but one question.
What does that even mean?
I understand the concept of master studies, but whenever I try and do them, I feel like I;m wandering aimlessly, way out of my scope.
It's hard to explain... It's just as though they're so far and above my ability that all it does is trigger (fuck I hate that word) my low self esteem.

>>2580896
not saying that my shit is any good, but a blob of spikes? come on

>>2581168

No, i stand by it. It took me a minute to see it was supposed to be an arm. That image shows me nothing.

I'm not saying you as an artist isn't good. The point is I can't tell if you have practiced fundamentals, because I can't see them.

It is just a blob of shapes, spikes and shadows. There's no thought into doing this, only what you think looks cool. Don't even pretend that's not true.

It's an awful image to show off how much you've progressed, because you could be anywhere on the scale of beginners.

>>2580947
>2016
Hey, where have I seen that before?

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>>2581390
I posted this some time ago

>>2581397
Ah, that's it! You never took it further?

>>2581420
I changed his right hand and I softoned his skin after an anon told me, but not much more

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>>2580474

I guess my mind just went wild with the possibilities, Anon. I really didn't mean anything harsh; I apologize, keep artin'.

>>2581519
Routine? Any tips firez? What would would you do differently if you had to learn again? Mirin

>>2581102

From what I can understand you're supposed to draw from life/use reference so that you get new information/knowledge about how things work. Then you apply what you learned by drawing from imagination.

If you just stick to your imagination without taking in anything new it's like inbreeding.

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I'm taking parts apart with a blunt pallete knife

few more years?

There was this German guy that spent 17 years and funded completely this monument never saw any profit or costs

it sells books and museum tickets today

What are we to think of him? The art became more real then he as if he'd birthed a rock

there's been a lot of sad people out there

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>>2581599

>>2581519
That female figure is way fucked up my FiRez. Are you really trying to get the fashion proportions of 8+ heads?

It just looks so out of place since she has such a small and cute face. Fashion proportioned bodies also look really unnatural in my opinion.

Apart from that, there is just simple errors with the construction and inconsistencies in the perspective.

the faces look cute though
>i like it

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>>2581599

>>2580976
>The colors are exactly the same, but spread out in different intensity.
Can you explain what you mean by this?

>>2581053
>what is a happy medium?

>>2577226

no. your art sucks shit.

>>2577608

is this trolling?

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Hate myself everyday

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>>2581642
It's very good. If you're not happy move to something else

>>2580976
Maybe he's a fucking god, ever thought of that?

>>2581763
In that case Please God let me finish these and let them be liked

>>2581763
If he was a god he'd be able to make the image look decent.

>>2581122
>your ways
I only draw what I want to draw. I only study X when I want to study X. If you always do what you want, you end up enjoying drawing, and you gain mileage quickly. But the lack of discipline makes it hard for me to study fundamentals.

My earlier attempts to study faces were a waste of time because my heart wasn't in it so I learned nothing.

Also, only compare your progress to your past self. Everyone operates under different conditions with different goals. For the past year, I've been trying to draw more green dots (imagination) and do more digital so I only compare myself in 2016 with myself in 2015 with respect to these 2 goals. Also, I enjoy creating these "drawing timelines" to reminisce about memorable/challenging drawings, and not necessarily to gauge progress.

>>2581156
>what does that even mean?
For years all I've been doing is copying favorite artists... and /ic/ gives me a lot of shit about it, and it is well deserved. Perpetual "studying" is not good path, but it felt good so I did it and still do it.

Maybe my brain is just wired differently than yours, but if I can identify a skill level delta then I know exactly where I should focus my work next time. Knowing what I want to work on is reassuring - it doesn't make me upset.

>>2581530

Thanks anon

I'm afraid I don't have a routine, my days are so contrived that I just try to do draw as much as possible, However, I do try to split my daily drawing time in 50% pure learning 50% personal works and until very recently, commissions.

>Any tips

Try to provoke a mood/state of being in your finished illustrations and a solid grasp of form in everything you do (intersections, awareness of 2 point perspective, line weight are key for this).

>What would would you do differently if you had to learn again?

I would try to find and follow some sort of curriculum (these days I try to finish books and follow the NMA videos) and spend more time on pure drawing before jumping to painting,

>>2581606
Thanks anon, I will try to keep it in mind for the next time

>>2581642
>great skull studies
>everything else is shit
How?

>>2580620
It doesn't seem like you are in any hurry to git gud. Any goals?

>>2581120
Cute, arms are a little short, and I can't tell if you purposefully covered the face because you didn't want to draw it

>>2581121
I like where you are heading in 2016 especially those trucks. Keep it up.

>>2581514
For the love of God, I cannot decode this timeline or your nonsensical legend. Blue X for imagination? Green circle for imagination? Red dash? Just use all dots with different colors or the same color with different symbols... I have no idea how to manage to fuck that up.

Otherwise, your 2016 is decent so far

>>2581991
>everything else is shit

nah, anon has become relatively better, you're just being a butt

>>2581642
Your most obvious sin is the lack of any cripples in recent years

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>>2577639
I really like your style but you should keep your lines cleaner.

>>2580962
merc me

>>2584389
I like how this meme has evolved

>>2581599
Bleib einfach bei Deutsch, Junge. Dein Englisch versteht keiner

>>2581642
bit slow but everyone to their own pace

>>2581642
I'm really happy to see you're still drawing. Your cripples were some of my favorites.

is /ic/ really filled with a bunch of scrubs
non of these works have any merit, all of them are quite shit desu senpai

>>2584709
what the fuck do you expect?!
/ic/ isn't exactly calarts friend, it's just a bunch of no talent fags who couldn't make it circlejerking.

>>2584721
im not exactly an art student but looking at these works i know these guys have 0 chance of making it.
comics department = shit
concept art department = shit
background art = shit
fine art = that painting you buy for 3 bux because of the frame

>>2584732
well yes, that's what the skill level of amateurs usually is. no one is exactly good here kid, that's precisely why they're here, get it?

>>2584732
talentless losers lmao kek
fuck them desu

>>2577205

It looks like in 2013 a guy didn't bother finishing the painting/didn't spend so much time on it and in 2014 he went an extra mile to correct things.

Yeah, I see that there's some alteration to bust, collarbone etc., but this is minor stuff. Painter could have made 2014 painting in 2013 by just committing a bit more to it.

In truth I suspect that he left in 2013 being fed up with it, dig it up in 2014 and decided to change stuff and finish detail and lighting.

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>>2584732
serious question for you, do you think i will make it?

>>2584846
you need like 3 hours a day for 2 years

>>2584846
Righto Sinix

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>>2584944

>>2580409
I really like the two bottom left, could you post a link or post them here, please?

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stagnation nation. I'm faster now though.

>>2585289
impressively gay.

>>2581951
Thanks!
I guess my job is just to keep working at it then.
I have to agree though, the fundies are more boring than watching paint dry.

I want to draw again but I'm so fucking scared of how much time it will take me to develope the habilities I want that I just don't draw.
I am a goddamn loser, fuck, I don't want to be a loser. I want to be successful and achieve my goals.

How do you guys find the strengh?

>>2585289
My dick stiffed up a little bit and I don't know how to feel about that.

>>2584791
fucking dope

>>2580976
You're a fucking idiot, this study is extremely typical of someone who's been doing digital portraits for a few years and who's clearly spent many hours on it

There's nothing anywhere NEAR 100% accuracy, just look at the damn shape of the head

>>2585289
>I am gay gay gay, I like long big cocks I am super super gay, I like long big cocks

>>2585373
desu we all know that if we just put in the time and really focused on the right things for a few months we could be pretty decent. just do that and you can overtake all of us shit tiers

>>2585289
Boner... Why

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>>2585380
you're both disgusting furry yiff loving trash in denial. only thing to do now is an hero

>>2585289
Stop with the samebody

>>2585504
>a few months
I've been focused for around 6 months but I'm still shit. Does that mean I won't make it?

>>2584791
A fan of Dishonored? Nice.

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I really need to finish a new painting, the one to the right I finished like 2 months ago and haven't finished anything other than studies since.
Step it up, me

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>>2585289
You helped me when you talked about anatomy in a stream once, thanks Gabe.

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Never quite been able to get over monstergirls.

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>>2581617
>is this trolling?
Could you explain why you think Im trolling? Perhaps its because ears.. I just like them, but furry stuff is not my goal. I trying draw everything, focus on characters. Right now Im very inspired by Rafael Santi after saw his work at the museum. Madonna of the Pinks and Christ Blessing are so grateful paintings.

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Just really started trying to learn how to draw this past year or so. I'm more of a writer by trade, but I had a cartoon idea and I knew if I ever wanted it to work I'd at least need to be competent enough to do some basic storyboarding and concept.

How am I doing so far?

>>2586189
Get studyn.

>>2585834
are you doing 10+ hours of focussed work from the right books, only focusing on the fundamentals ?

>>2586230
any particular advice on what to study?

>>2586189
wow, how have u not improved at all in the past 6 months jfc
also lol le >i'm a writer and i had a cartoon idea fuck off basic ass cunt
everybody thinks they're a fuckign writer and everybody thinks their fucking genius cartoon is gonna get produced when u have no art at all
u know animation is an art form. it's 1/2 writing, 1/2 visuals. fuck off

>>2585289
Your rendering has definitively moved forward, I like the look of your latest work, Gabe.

>>2586240
The pilot screenplay I wrote for the cartoon idea won a $700 award. I'm in college right now so I still have some time to git good at art.

>>2586233
>are you doing 10+ hours of focussed work from the right books, only focusing on the fundamentals ?
Not that D/ic/k, but.... Which ones are those right books and what fundamentals do you have in mind?

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Im glad i saved my old stuff, its always interesting and helpfull to look back

>>2586313
Do you draw people from any view besides 3/4 anymore?

>>2586318
yea, this is just for character designs for a comic

>>2586313

2014 = Long necks

2016 = No necks

>>2586321
Would be cool to see progress on your more dynamic poses/views

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>>2586324
Heres an example panel of that

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Sorry for shitty formatting but I was in a hurry
This is probably retarded but here it is anyway
I actually got worse lol
I bet you can't guess why I suck at drawing anything other than heads

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>>2581599

>>2581951
so you literally download a picture and draw it?

>>2586419
should have stopped a long time ago, would have saved urself a bunch of time.

>>2586419
blog? (serious)

>>2581642

You are really good :) I'd commission you!

>>2586419
the progress isn't terrible your moving forward with technical ability, just looks like a bad case of study sickness. try and look at artists that inspire you and draw what you like even if you don't have the skills yet. after a while of doing that, you get a better idea of what you should be studying and you might not feel so lost

>>2586658
I used to have one but I'm really bad at updating stuff like that and it always kinda gets forgotten
>>2586694
Thanks. I'll try and do that. I was planning on reading some books and doing their exercises, I think you're right about the study sickness thing. My mindset for this kind of stuff is fucked and I really should get back to what inspires me.

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I don't consider myself that good, but i'm proud that I can progress a little as time goes...

>>2586233
>>2586294
Pls Dick, respond

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>>2586294
>>2587222

It's not what i'm doing right now, i only put in 5-6 hours a day, and don't pick up the books nearly as often as i could. 6-8 hours is a comfortable ideal amount for me, and while anything above that could be helpful, i'm not at a point that i could consistently put in that time and stay focussed on learning.

It wouldn't be a schedule that you could just jump into, you'd have to spend a while building up to it, and i'd strongly recommend taking this advice into account beforehand too >>2586694


if you really focus on perfecting everything in the books, one step at a time and not skipping a step until it's solid in your brain, it seems ridiculous to say you wouldn't improve a lot.

Perspective, construction and form building, along with pen skills. i'd put this stuff as a priority.
>'scott robertson's how to draw' (maybe a more basic book on perspective first, like perspective made easy or marshall dandruff's videos)


Figure drawing and basic anatomy including face structure
>i'd do this in conjunction with perspective

>Loomis figure drawing for all it's worth
>Hampton
>Vilppu's drawing manual
>proko videos
>Uldis Zarins anatomy for sculptors
>Loomis head and hands (minus the hands)
>atlas of human anatomy
>Bargue plates

Learn the basics on lighting and values
>sycra lighting series
>alphonso dunn videos

>>2577226
i like your style

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i have been drawing for a year. hhave given atleast 600+hours till now. i am going to start learning how to draw hands and feet and face. also sull chucken scratch go away by itself? i have multiple pics. i have never eddited a image on a pc so .

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>>2587726
another one

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>>2587730

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>>2587726
last one. sorry about multiple pics. an i progresssing?

>>2587745
Not really. Youre very abitious which is good but you need to slow down and work on your fundamentals.

>>2587747
start from scratch?

>>2587745
>>2587737
>>2587730
>>2587726
do some figure studies every now and then. same with gesture drawings. it doesn't even have to be that often, but you need to get decently competent with those. you need to get good with studies in general in order to learn how to draw what you see.

other than that you need to review more. way more.
constantly review your own work, and compare yourself to the pros. and not to the lowest common denominator, no. i mean compare yourself to your favorites and the very best out there.

compare, and be brutally honest. right now you can't stand up to them at all. compare, think about the differences and figure out what you need to work at to get there.

it's good that you're drawing so much, but you need to be more goal driven. again, chase after your absolute favorites in order to understand where you want to go.
right now you're still weak sauce.

>>2587757
thank you.

can the next thread for this be a no weebs addition

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I was sixteen when I did the first one.

I draw this character every year to see my gains.

Don't have any pics but I've really been progressing these past 2 months. Thanks /ic/

>>2586962
You have potential.

>>2580947
At first glance those bottom two looked pretty shit, but I think that's just bad photo quality - you're actually progressing quite nicely, IMO. Also you're only 18 so just keep drawing all the goddamn time no matter what.

My recommendation is you get to work grinding on some figure drawing and anatomy stuff when you have the opportunity - if college classes aren't an option, look for a community art center that offers life model sessions. You can go back to playing around with distorted proportions like you have in the wolverine later on - "know the rules before you break them" and all that. Keep it up!

>>2586962
>>a ninja made of wood with a fucking yin yang sword are u srs m8

really though I guess I don't understand how digital painting works at all. How can you faggots consistently diarrhea out these shiny monstrosities without realizing that your fancy pants tablets and software will never compensate for your lack of fundamentals?
It's like no one has actually learned how to basic shit and all you fuckers do is look up tutorials on absurdly specific things. Mastering someone's guide to "rendering hair highlights in photoshop" doesn't mean much when your dude has a baby arm and a body made of turds and play-doh

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never actually talked on /ic/ or gotten critiques. i've been finding myself in a really horrible slump and i've come to the realization that i have almost never drawn backgrounds or done architectural studies technical studies, anything useful, nothing like that just because i've always considered myself bad at it, and i give up so easily.

i feel awful cause ive been drawing since i could hold a pencil but my improvement pace has not been what i wish it was. i really want to branch out and get better but i'm nervous and have always stayed in my comfort zone.

pic related- it's mostly (digital)shit from late middle school, but the stuff on the right is from freshman year. this was 4-5 years ago. it's basically the kind of shit i draw nowadays, even though i'm a bit better now. this is just to show the lack of variety in content and i'm just really disappointed at how little my art's subject matters have changed from the stuff in this pic. i have no idea where to start branching out and i'm afraid it's too late. i'll post some recent stuff to show my progression. i'm not sure how harsh the critiques will be and i've already prepared myself for the "just give up now" kinds of comments.

is it "cheating" to paint backgrounds directly from reference? what kinds of backgrounds are best to start with?

>>2588324
This is the most cancerous, unhelpful post that I have ever seen on this board. Please kill yourself.

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>>2588333
oh hey trips get
anyways
this is more recent stuff, within the past year. the cat was painted last week(fuckin lol at the placeholder background) and the "realism" portrait was painted yesterday, with a reference. i can post the ref if anyone's interested. i wanted to make a realistic version of one of my characters and that's what came out of it.

those two aforementioned pieces are intentionally more detailed than the others(not so much that cat but yeah), especially the portrait, because i'm wondering if i fucked up by focusing on just drawing my own way rather than learning from realism and life. i'm not even sure if it's better for me to just start studying real life and drawing realism at this point, but it just makes me feel bad and unoriginal. i don't know where to go from here and what specific things to focus on. i've read shit tons of books and tried some studies with faces and bodies....and i've looked for good background references. now that i'm serious about art (cause i just graduated and i'm a hopeless case in every other area and really have no choice but to be serious about the only thing i can kind of do) i really want to improve quickly. i just feel so bad because i see other people that are my age and so much better than me and i sperg out before i can ask them what they used.

posts like >>2588266 give me a little bit of hope for myself, since /ic/ seems to be intensive and harsh but effective.

sorry for the autistic mess of a post but yeah i just don't know what to do.

>>2588333
>is it "cheating" to paint backgrounds directly from reference? what kinds of backgrounds are best to start with?
You mean like copying background from photos? It's a good way to start I would say, since it's hard to imagine and draw something you've almost 0 experience with. Once you've done quite a number of landscape then it would certainly be easier later on.

You should check out Noah's first video on landscape btw, I believe this would make it easier for you to do landscape work later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQfF-P70V2Q

Rocks and clouds might be easier to start with, compared to the like of trees but that's only my personal opinion.

>>2588344
okay, thanks for the video link. i'll check it out and maybe post some studies later on the beginner's thread.

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i've had a pretty bad art block for the past few months

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>>2588349
wow
just
wow

>>2588362
is that a negative or a positive........

>>2588365
what do you think

>>2588349
You're still heavily symbol drawing my man. You should definitely check out the sticky, good luck!

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>>2588369
i wish i understood what this meant

>>2588372
if you checked out the fucking sticky you would understand

>>2588365

are you sure you arent retarded?

>>2588372
symbol drawing is drawing things how you THINK they look like instead of what they actually look like.- Making an eye a circle for example.- The sticky is the first post you see when you go to /ic/.

>>2581642
progress more like regress amirite? What the fuck happend mang? did you quit inbetween? those skull studies and some of the animu stuff are really good

>>2588349
You have skipped the fundamentals. Check out the sticky.

>>2588396
thank you! i don't often post on 4chan so there's still a lot of terminology that goes over my head.

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>>2585950
Bethesda opened the Dishonored 2 Fanart Contest after 2 days I posted this fanart
>mfw

>>2586250
>The pilot screenplay I wrote for the cartoon idea won a $700 award.

But has it won the award of being turned into a studio cartoon?

no?

get drawing

>>2586250
>I'm in college right now so I still have some time to git good at art.
No you don't. Trust me. I make cartoons, and I've always been a better writer than most of my peers, but also a worse artist. I figured it was fine. I've won awards, and everyone says "it doesn't matter how it looks as long as the story is good!" But do you think a Pixar movie would be even half as effective if it looked how you draw? Now all my friends who are better artists have jobs as animators, and I'm working retail after college. You. Do not. Have some time. Get studying.

>>2588341
glad i could help.

First priority should be to learn how to self-critique, so you don't have to waste time asking "amidoingitrite" for every drawing you make.

>always finish what you start
>never leave any mistakes you can fix.
>think of ways to do it better.
>try not to make the same mistakes as last time.
>repeat

Improving fast requires a lot of discipline. You have to be willing to draw a lot, read a lot, and pay attention. Consistent action is the only way to make gains, and that means studying when you're not drawing, drawing when you're not studying, and building a love for the art process over time. You literally have to develop Stockholm Syndrome for the artistic process.

Don't forget that you want to improve, even when you don't feel like it, That means drawing through depression, and staying healthy so you can work hard. If you absolutely don't want to do anything, you have to decide to hate yourself, and draw regardless.

Most of the improvement process is deciding to eat past the ice cream headache, i.e. continuing to draw even when you don't see improvement, feel like it, have an art block, etc.

>>2586323
>audible laughter
thanks anon, not OP though

>>2581120
love this, very expressive imo

>>2581991
I was wondering the exact same.
Bruuuh the point is to apply what you learned, I assume the skull on the left wasn't drawn by you.
>>2581642
You've gotten better but as I was scrolling down I kept wondering when you'd fix the skull issue. You need to pay more attention and actually put some sort of anchor to your guidelines instead of just randomly putting lines, it's like I can see you drawing it too fast like a speed painting.

I'm liking the shapes in your studies though, some have more flow than mine.

>>2586962
You cyborg ninja is a fucking pancake rolled over by a German panzer. Work on fundamentals and you will make it.

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>>2581991
Because I'm garbage

>>2584260
>>2584658
Thanks, but I can't improve by just drawing cripples. I have to force myself to do more traditional studies. I'll do more once I'm better.

>>2586675
I can feel the sarcasm

>>2588573
>>2591989
Because I don't put in the proper time to draw. That skull is about the only study I've done in all these years. I'm sorry.

>>2580469
I miss Dot.
>>2586419
When was the last time you finished anything?
Drawing the same things over and over won't teach you anything new.

>>2580474
Nope, you need to get good and then draw cute anime girls. It's not the other way around.

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2015 was sure special.

>>2592562
hopefully you'll say that about 2016 in 2017. Nice progress.

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>>2592555
>needing to be good to draw anime
your new is showing.

>>2592586
>>needing to be good to draw good anime
There, I fixed that for you.

>>2592610
I'd like to imagine that this is just one comic and it took them 3 years to start fucking

Ill find some old sketch books and upload some shit tomorrow. This started in 2012 in a /jp/ draw thread and it was terrible. Followed by serious depression in 13,14, and in 15 I got fucking serious and studied hard.
[spoiler]t-thanks[/spoiler]

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relevant to the thread:

>>2586189
Keep doing it. Your drawings show extreme sensitivity. You need to study. Try this book https://neoalchemist.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/edwards-the-new-drawing-on-the-right-side-of-the-brain-viny.pdf

>>2586189
It's possible to be too ambitious in the beginning. Start small and slowly work your way up, this is the way to make the best progress.

You need to practice the very basics. The fundamentals, as some would call it. Practice with simple shapes first.

Do life studies at different angles of simple objects, such as a pencil sharpener. You will gain observational skills without being too overwhelmed by an immense and complex subject.

Best of luck to you.

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Still working on fixing a few things with the legs but this is my progress so far since last year.

I have a big library of inspirational pieces from various sources online. I browse my collection every day in hopes I learn from observation.

>>2594019
>I browse my collection every day in hopes I learn from observation.
hahaha, I hope for you this is bait.

>>2580463
...well fuck.

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still suck tho

>>2592562
bretty gud anon

>>2594074
>le cherrypicking

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>>259408
you got me

>>2594031
what... ok.

>>2581642
Oh lol I remember when you got bullied for that first one. I wish I made that much progress.

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>>2594208
Oh I remember ;_;

Wish I could find the thread.

>>2594031
actually not the worst idea. The more times you look at something the quicker it lands in your visual library. Really inefficient if you just skim through, but if you have like a bunch of similar items and look at a bunch of them for a month, you'll remember a lot.

>>2577613
Very nice!
>>2580923
It's gotten better, keep at it!
>>2581397
Very surrealist, love it.
>>2581642
Good progress, nice!
>>2588349
You can clearly see a big progression.

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Holy stagnation, Batman

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>>2594654
Better comparison I guess.

>>2594685
Well, at least his face is getting more punchable.

>>2584846

Grind Loomis Drawing Heads and Hands and Fun with a Pencil for a long time.

>>2580923

senpai this is so sad. Nothing wrong with starting late in life but literally throwing two years away when you are ostensibly trying to get better is pathetic.

>>2580209

your taste/ sense is still weak and that's holding you back

>>2580409

also someone with more skill than taste

>>2594694
Ha, that was the intention.

>>2594712
Very nice, I'm eager to see where you go.

>>2594694
kek

>>2585289
i've busted many nuts to your professional faggotry thank you ga(y)be

I guess it's not really a progression chart as I don't think my style has evolved that much at all, but it was still a fun thing to do and observe.

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>>2595389

Shit, forgot pic.

>>2595425

Love that use of lines, do you have more/link?

>>2594712
blog?

>>2595390
>>2595425
you two too onegaishimasu

>>2583917
Nah he's right. For 4 years of progress, it's garbage. I hope art is just a hobby for him. All these fuckin weebs, like yourself, trying to coddle this dude will not help him get better. You are only encouraging him to pump out shit tier work. He really needs to jump back to square one and focus on fundamentals.

>>2585969
I can see some improvement in your values, especially in the head, which is nice but I recommend focusing on design before jumping into another piece like the latest one. Also anatomy may be a good thing to focus on. Don't forget to use references too. Keep goin man, you are gettin there!

>>2586148
Anatomy.

>>2586962
see >>2588324
You need design help. It looks like you have no idea about how anything really functions. Overly rendering things will only impress the casuals. At least there is visible progress. Keep studying and learning from refs.

>>2592562
Nice improvement! Time to add some more culture and story telling into your design. Give it that extra wow factor that will sell the whole idea of the character at first glance. Cool shit man.

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I stopped drawing after this for years and just picked up again this March due to feeling shit about my art.

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>>2577205

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>tfw no/very minimal progress

>>2595651
At least you could actually sell that.

>>2595651
blog?

>>2595653
I have no idea how i could do that. Any tips?
>>2595656
Hey, the only one i actually update is my IG
instagram.com/o_pacificador

>>2577639
your colouring needs improved, just saying.

>>2587414
For curiousity's sake, is your progress anywhere in the thread?

>>2595451

http://gabriellemarin.tumblr.com

>>2592610
Stop cucking. It's embarrassing. Imagine if your parents were watching.

>>2580209
Wow, I still remember the turtle.fish.paint jinx reference expressions you drew near the end of 2014. Nice improvement since then!

>>2596103
why so butthurt?

>>2580209
blog?

>>2596103
not everyone still lives with their parents and all parents aren't close minded religious fanatics. if you can't rate somebody's skill without being able to suppress your subjective opinion about the theme it's portraying, then just stfu and gtfo.

>>2577639
Ooh I love your art. Idk why ppl are so mean

>>2594649
:')

>>2592610
Welcome back bbc.

>>2595390
I actually like your earliest stuff the most... You were bolder and more dynamic.

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>>2596592

>>2596336
>>2596379
Seeing all these comments and all the cuckoldry shit white people put out, i'll gladly accept the black supremacy rampant in america today. White people literally have the highest rate of autism. Just look at this board for proof.

Anyone know how i can get employed at blacked.com?

>>2596634
Well, he got better. What do you want? You want him to get better?

>>2596658
>Anyone know how i can get employed at blacked.com?
Be a relatively good looking small white female slut.

>>2595651
I actually really like your 2015 stuff.

>ITT: crabs in a bucket

/ic/ pls

>>2581519
that is some really shit anatomy tho.

>>2596672
Why?

>>2596555

I an definitely see that. I got busy with life and neglected my art a lot, it's interesting that you can see it too in some way.

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I'm happy with my progress so far but I know I can do better

>>2595588

Congrats, good progress my dude

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>>2596691
>>2581606

>>2596691
post your work faggot.

>>2596673
>Being any surprised

Anon pls.

>>2580409

How can you be getting so much better but still drawing the awful muscle girls?

>>2596936
True passion.

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>>2581642

>That Mermaid

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>>2592586
>not needing to be good to draw anime

Literally only a couple anons on this board are good enough to draw anime.

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>>2596662
>he got better
I don't have enough
>implying
and "quotes" in this reply box to express how much bull there is in this comment.

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>>2596951
>ifunny.co

>>2580923
I know those feels :(
Every time I try to make it go away it gets worse.

>>2596964
If you can't perceive subtle improvements, then what is it that drives YOU to practice day by day?
>You don't practice.

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Decided to draw every day during the summer for practice. How am I doing?

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I started drawing to cope with my panic disorder.
It's gone now. ( I hope. ) But oftentimes I miss my old drawings. that raw feelings.
I can't replicate those nowadays.

>>2597193
>I can't replicate those nowadays.
왜? 괜찮아보이는대. 생각너무하지마.

>>2597193
How many hours daily? I look at these images and I always wonder if I could do it too.

>>2577613
Obvious photobashing kys

>>2597204
네 말대로, 때론 과한 생각이 오히려 행동력을 상실하게 만든다고 생각해.
돌이켜 보면 과거의 우울증도 과한 걱정에서 왔으니까... 고마워.

>>2597251
5 minutes ~ 15 hours per day... It really depends on daily mood. on average about 1 hour a day.
However I don't draw daily. I draw about 4 days per week.

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>>2597193
Love your work dude. I know it's old but can you post this one?

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I drew the one on the left after eating like 10 energy bars

>>2597193
always loved your stuff senpai. keep it up

>>2586962
Edges man, edges

>>2597193
You have a truly interesting style anon.

>>2595390
I thought that was a waffle on the top right at first

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>>2597193
I love all you're shit man, especially your sketches from 2015 onward

any words of wisdom for your kouhai?

>>2597608
Thats a bit harsh, calling him shit. He's fine man. Sheesh, 4chan is no hugbox alright.

>>2597193
i picked up drawing to try to cope with my anxiety disorder as well but tfw i get too anxious to concentrate and end up just staring at paper for an hour

blog tho? you have amazing stuff going on

>>2597621
kek

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>>2597321
sorry but the only image file i have is bad quality. tried to find original paper but couldn't.

>>2597479
>>2597571
>>2597608
thanks. and... it's not a big deal but, I'm not Japanese if you used Japanese words for that intention.

>>2597608
I had hard time thinking about any 'wisdom' worth sharing. but everything I could think of was so cringy and hypocrite. sorry!

>>2597669
I feel you.
To me, it was extremely stressing to draw a human. especially facial features.
So I started from drawing gory robots and anime girls instead. which was fine. and eventually gained ability to draw human without getting nervous. anxiety can be avoided if you start from very, very easy one. I hope.

>>2597725
So you're saying i should just draw a ton of stuff i enjoy? like things i want to draw and i'll get better that way?

i really like animals and gothic architecture, so if i just try drawing that stuff alot while learning from books and stuff you think i will get better?

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>>2595588
Any tips on painting senpai?

>>2595651
Had to double take at that boxing picture

>>2597725
>thanks. and... it's not a big deal but, I'm not Japanese if you used Japanese words for that intention.

It's a bad habit, don't pay it any mind. Your style really caught my eye though

>I had hard time thinking about any 'wisdom' worth sharing. but everything I could think of was so cringy and hypocrite. sorry!

no problem m8, hope to see more of you around here

>>2594031
>Anything that isn't realism is bait
>Using references is bad
Speak for yourself. This comment is the worst bait I have ever read.

>>2597893
just watching other people's art won't make you a good artist. that's all I wanted to say with that.
learning from observation without doing proper studies is a waste of time.

>>2581991
ur brain on anime

>>2596761
merc_wip.jpg

>>2597725

Love your work. How did you manage the hatching for the shading? Did you use a pen? Whenever I try to hatch my shaded pen drawings the thickness of the lines doesn't come out how I would like. Again, your work is amazing.

>>2594715
not a very useful comment, but I get it, but there's not much I can do about it

>>2596117
Those were good times

>>2596340
Blog here >>2589852

>>2580209
Your good

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>>2588378
>if you CHECKED that fucking sticky you would understand

>>2597791
Yeah.
not sure you are >>2597669 but I'll just assume.

When a baby start learning mother language, they does not worry about grammatical errors and poetical perfection. They just want to say "mom". and they find joy doing so. later on, they talk unstop. asking everything. It's fun. And they find out that there's so many people other than mom and dad. they want to be social. they want to express their feelings more elegantly, more vivid, so they learn advanced language. they seek knowledge. eventually, they may grow up as writer, actor, or news reporter.

Drawing is the same. you can't be a master at one day. Instead, you should be more focused on what you want to draw. If you keep drawing whatever you like, You eventually feel unsatisfied because your drawing isn't good enough. so naturally, you read boring books and do tedious practices just to get better. and you keep doing this endless cycle. Just like how we learned mother language. Practice must be followed by a reason. without reason it's easy to get frustrated and give up. if you force a baby to learn advanced persuasion technique without reason, he will end up say nothing.

I hope my English is good enough to convey my suggestion.

>>2598134
I used to use a pelt pen. that anime girl with robot arm was done with pelt pen either. ( staedtler triplus fineliner ) I'm not doing any secret maneuver however... If i want thick line I draw over it repeatedly, If i want thin line I do it carefully... that's it. and... uniform and clean line spacing is the key in hatching I think.
Nowadays I only use mechanical pencil. I tried pencil, nib pen, whatever but for me final choice is mech pencil.
yeah I made very informative comment... sorry.

Hey everyone, I used to post semi regularly in these threads. I just got my first paid job from a real client (The New York Times). Would anyone been interested in an AMA style thread answering questions about my transition from ic>artschool>illustration career ?

>>2598936
probably yes, but "post your work" first