Intermediate Thread Nose Bro Edition: Nobody Nose

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>>2559441
Pages from Vilppu's Drawing Manual

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>>2559443
Apply Vilppu's Drawing manual to Vilppu's figure drawing.

Pay close attention to the torso's pinch and stretch

>>2559441
this has to be breaking a fucking rule.

>>2559441
>>2559444
Hampton's Figure Drawing book

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>>2559447
Forgot pic whoops

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>>2559441
Superior Artist Study

>>2559444
>>2559448
Vilppu's Gesture and Hampton's muscle groups can help with this study

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>>2559441
Superior Artist Study

Moebius: Study the colors, study the style, and study the greatness

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>>2559441
Landscape Photo Study

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>>2559456
Remember to keep your head up and study!

mods.

>>2559490
kek

>>2559490
stay made

>>2559546

>Made

>>2559441

I think you're underestimating the jump it takes to go from beginner to intermediate, Nose kouhai.

>>2559556
He's better than 90% of the artist community, didn't you know?

>>2559557
Oh I'm highly aware that shitposting is a respected artform in this community.

>>2559556
I was on the boat about calling it Intermediate Thread before I posted. I was thinking of calling it "Study Thread," but theres already a Study Thread.

Whats wrong with Intermediate, might I ask?

>>2559441
if thats intermediate, im pro
feels good

>>2559560
>Whats wrong with Intermediate, might I ask?

You aren't quite there yet (^;

>>2559444
Honestly, this is a great foreshortening study. I am on it family.

>>2559563
Then what are you doing on /ic/!?! Go out and make some money anon!

>>2559564
Oh, well this thread isnt for me. Its for anons like you who are on the road to intermediate, or are already intermediate. So dont be afraid to post if you want to show off your studies!

>>2559582
>isn't for me
>uses own ugly symbols as the OP image

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>>2559444
>>2559570

>>2559620
why is he break dancing nude?

I would spend up to $200 to have enough paint to drown Nosefaggot head in. I can't decide though if it should be burnt sienna or yellow ochre.

nose man friend, you silly

>>2559688
Why not?

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value study. took me about 2 hours, ended up like shit. Tried to paint directly with shapes, no lineart like i’m used to. Critique needed.

>>2559733
Eye placement is of, chin is too narrow and the contrast of the values is too low Good job for first try though!.

>>2559733
too much attention on detail, too much effort into trying to produce detail before accurately blocking out value.

how do you look at your reference when you paint? if you haven't, try extending the canvas doubly and putting the reference right smack next to it. it will be easier to focus on blocking out value and shape first this way before detail, which you've gotten lost in entirely here.

>>2559734
Thanks, man. I actually have tried painting like this a few times in the past but gave up because of frustration, but now i really want to push my work further.

>>2559733
Near enough's good enough. Don't be too worried about solving the problems with this specific reference. Just go again.

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>>2559441
Pic related I absolutely love this fight scene anyone know of other comic/manga artists that illustrate a similar style, or just amazing fight scenes in general?

>>2559740
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2559736
I tried painting the major shapes before detailing it, but at some point i got kinda lost and started jumping over the reference trying to render different small stuff at the same time, so that might be the problem.

>>2559746
Even if you are doing a tonal approach constructions lines are totally ok.

>>2559746
You just drew the shapes wrong, that's all.

>>2559742
fucking sperg.

>>2559441
this thread is completely pointless.
and you can't draw any faces except for mongolian faces can you?

>>2559740
i swear to god TG fags are the most basic faggots in existence.
that page is complete horseshit

>>2559733
shapes and values are completely shit. use more vertical and horizontal guidelines to help you measure things.
as for values, squinting your eyes can help. but really you need to understand shadows and form.

>>2559751
its not the quality of the fucking page I was asking for the actions prick. comics with good fight coreyography

>>2559752
Vagabond. Also, Slam Dunk isn't really focused on fighting but some pages are breathtakingly dynamic.

>>2559752
yes, and my point is that the action on that page is fucking horrible. there is no continuity between the panels and you can barely even tell what is going on.

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>>2559580
>>2559584
>>2559587
I don't know if I'm supposed to post here or on the /beg/.

>>2559764
Here I d say. Honestly I like the idea of an Beginner-Esque Threat for a better level, but a similiar structure. With master studies, more dificult references etc.

>>2559764
You're the only one here who isn't a complete beginner.

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>>2559771
fight me.

>>2559441
i thought the draw thread was the intermediate one

This is a stupid question but can someone explain the pelvis from Hampton's book?
I still don't understand how I'm supposed to connect the legs to it.

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>>2559441
>Intermediate
>>Op pic is begginer, not even competent
>Op recommends beginner books
Why haven't nose fag been banned yet.

>>2559860
cuz i didnt make this thread, cuz im better than you. cuz you dont post your works

>>2559733

You should find the "darkest" dark and "whitest" white in the pic and keep it as a reference to compare with other areas when in doubt. The eye is easily tired and fooled when trying to figure how grey something is, especially after an hour or two.

I'll try to study the same pic tomorrow, we'll see how it goes.

> mfw it will be worse and I'll have to shut up.

>>2559860
>smugly picking on fellow artists
Well Miche-fucking-langelo himself still had a lot of room for improvement, so terms like begginer or intermediate are pretty fucking relative, wouldn't you agree?

Does anyone really think that this is the proper way to deal with Nosebro? Inflating the board with false-flag shitposting?

>>2560014
He's probably saying that people in intermediate thread and beginner threads are relatively still on the same level, so devoting an intermediate thread is not only ego stroking but a waste of a thread.

>>2560018

Not only that, but by having an intermediate thread it makes posting in the drawthread give the impression you're above the intermediate level, which is also pretty dumb.

The drawthread is the intermediate thread. If pros post there, they're welcome to, but we have more intermediates than we do pros and dividing it into a lower, middle and upper class is just going to have anyone claiming to be the top level of artist be shit all over.

>>2560018
You're right, my mistake. I just think that /ic/ers should save negative attitude towards fags who actually deserve it.

>>2559441
I love the attempt at the, 'pro who only needs to use a couple strokes' but it's completely shitty looking anyways. kind of adorable

>>2560024

Nosebro deserves all the shit he gets, he's far too pretentious for his mediocre skill level.

The false-flagging imitators aren't helping matters though. He's intolerable enough without half a dozen idiots mimicking him.

epic thread

>>2560024
It's cool, I still think the idea of tiered threads is good because the experiences of a sophomore is different from a freshman, but desu all threads outside of /beginner/ should be considered sophomore already, like the draw thread.

>>2560040

The difference is there's no proper system for graduation. You don't go through lessons, get graded, and move up. You just end up getting egotists like Nosebro thinking they're qualified to graduate or demote people, or people deciding for themselves what their skill level is.

The two-tier system of "beginner" and "not beginner" is the best we have because it's usually pretty noticable when somebody lacks fundamentals, but the line is blurred significantly when you throw "intermediate" in between.

>>2560046
>>2560040
So if we change the title, everything would be solved? This is a trial thread desu

Draw Threads dont have references that all draw, or master studies that all do though.

>>2560053

The title to what? It's an unnecessary thread that needlessly complicates things and invites a shitstorm of drama when people try to categorize whether someone belongs in a beginner thread, an intermediate thread, or a drawthread.

>>2560062

We have study threads sometimes though.

>>2560065
Wouldnt it be cool to have a study thread on a regular basis though. Think its neat. Drawthreads also dont have the intend to make the people in it better, intermediate threads could be focused on that.

>>2559441
I like this thread

>>2560065
Is it the thread thatll invite shitstorms, or the thread's title? If we slapped on "Study Thread," instead of Intermediate. Would still invite a shit storm? The threads Op emphasises on studying

Studythread is cool.

>>2560072
Study threads never have a problem with shitstorms. Just the occasonal ">studying from photos" shitposter and maybe a complaint about a ref photo not being good enough.

So yeah, call the thread to study thread next time and there won't be a problem.

>>2560072

Also don't start the thread with nosebro in your name and shitty nosebro tier drawings in the OP.

>>2560100
that IS a nosebro drawing

>>2560103

Careful lest you summon Him, and hear Him utter unto you "post your work"

>>2560100
>>2560098
I used th nosebro name and drawing for exposure, it did its job. No one really complained about the books, except that one anon.

>>2559778
hahaha you actually think you're not a beginner?

>>2560127
Let me answer you with a question: Do you like anime?

>>2560136
Whether he likes it or not doesn't make you any less of a beginner, friendo

>>2560141
But it would make him a faggot.

>>2560141

But how else is he going to discredit the criticism?

>>2560143
No criticism was said to be fair.

>>2560145
Look at the ref. Not much needs to be said. Being a beginner now doesn't damn you to beginnerhood forever. Just keep working.

>>2560150
post your work xd

>>2559441

What kind of mental gymnastics do you have to go through to look at that and call it intermediate.

>>2560158
Delusion that drawing for that long and still at that level thinking that you're not a beginner anymore.

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Can I be here yet?

>>2560211
"soon"

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>>2559441
do you have autism, nose?

>>2560215
If I do its very slight (undiagnosed). I am moderately narcissistic with a combo of sociopathicness though.

>>2560214
>>2560211

yea a little more work, brah, but you are on the right track, unless this took you 6 months to get this good in which case you might be hopeless

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Should I be here or in the beginner thread?

>>2560224
I'm not sure I understand,It took me a lifetime to get this good. I've been drawing since I was a kid I'm just starting to really buckle down now

>>2560223
Get help, you'll only continue embarrassing yourself until you do.

>>2560240

You should be in the draw thread, in my opinion.

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>>2560244
Not good enough for that. Still fumbling. That and I haven't drawn much since I started work, at least not stuff I'd scan.

>>2560243
help for what?

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Attempted to draw Tilda Swinton

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the whole idea of an intermediate thread is making me cringe

>>2559441
>intermediate thread
>cartoon face

>>2559441
Wow almost 24hrs in we have almost 100 posts. Remember, if you dislike this Thread and feel its a waste of space, dont be afraid to report it! Hopefully the mods or janitors can intervene!

For those who posted their work, either you're ballsy or brainless. But thanks for participating! You're ballsy in my book

Saw some replies about calling this an Intermediate Thread. Oh boy, I made a big mistake! But we do learn through our failures.

Now so far the issues are mainly in the title of the thread, however, there is summary of what the thread was, poorly, attempting to accomplish. How is that summary? What title would best fit this summary?

Maybe this Thread is a trial for a more frequent Study Thread?

>kill yourself OP
>Im already dead inside senpai

>>2560292
study thread is cool, ya. Like something beginner thread prepares you for. Where you can go, when you feel you got good enough, but want to keep going.

>>2560292
I almost feel bad for you. You've made this board more lively and at the same time shitty but a necessary shitty.

>>2560292
you're my hero.

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>>2560292
>>2560296
agree with the study thread. the beginner thread seems like a good place for newbs to get aquatinted with fun with pencil, perspective made easy etc.

we really do need a thread for people going through the more advanced fundamentals like robertson and vilppu, master studies, photo and life studies that are past a certain degree of competence etc.

>>2560296
I say wait until this thread gets close to 300 posts before posting a Study Thread. There are a lot of things that need to be cleared up, mainly books. But we need to agree on what books are considered advanced. What Masters should be the standard for studying.

>>2560298
Sometimes I cry at night knowing The One True Nose Bro is furious with me

>>2560316
>Books
>Master Studies
List them and give your thoughts on why, in case some anon doesnt agree with you.


If any other anons wish to do the same, then post. Dont be afraid to debate!

>>2560338
Master Studies wise I would just put the Watts stuff up, got a lot of stuff on the tumblr.
References should ones with stronger foreshortening, harder views etc. maybe. Do some longer efforts (4h+) or so possibly.

>>2560136
>>2560157
And no I don't particularly like anime. Now go back to the beg thread.

>>2560348
Strange, you do sound like an anime loving faggot though.

why is this joke thread still alive

>>2559441
>intermediate
>nose bro

Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahhahahahaahhaahhahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahaha oh wow no wonder i remember why i dont hang out here anymore

just draw

>>2560353
Not him, but the only thing he said was that your work is beginner tier, which is correct. What does that have to do with anime?

>>2560500
likewise, why are you still alive

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>>2560500
>>2560809
get roasted my nigga

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>>2559441
>That
>Good art

>>2559441
kek

>this joke still hasn't been deleted

>>2560860
Where's the joke?

>>2561231
firez is ok though, at least his work isn't total shit.

>>2561231
Firez finally learned his lesson and stopped using a trip. Nosebitch actually believes this shit? Top kek.

>>2561240
>>2561237
I believe™ it
>>2561231
god shitmaster youre such a faggot

why do people hate nose bro so much?

>>2561287
because of his insufferable arrogance when he's complete shit. spends all his time in the beginner thread surrounding himself with people who are slightly worse than him to try and trick himself into thinking his work is even half passable, and promoting and demoting people in draw threads as if his opinion has any value.

>>2561287
He's a shitposting dunning kruger from reddit that draws ugly tumblr-tier animu

>>2561293
>>2561290
but your artt though?

>>2561562
And this. This horseshit is why we hate nose bro. Kill yourself.

>>2561771
but you cant draw

>>2561231
Mvp

>>2561971
>implying you can
>OP image is your work after 2 whole years
He could post anything and you'd still be shit

>>2561993

2 years?

He hasn't done a single complete illustration in two whole years? Wtf

>>2559733
Delete this immediately.

>>2559441
Don't post beginner level stuff as an OP image in an intermediate thread.

>>2562004
>>2561993

but you cant draw though

>>2562376
I'd say slightly above beginner imho

>>2562564
>but you cant draw though
Should I feed the sharks with some of my beginner work?

>>2562598
theyre just triggering me. dont defend me. If you want to defend me just say post your work. Because i know their inability to do so is a grim reminder.

>>2562598
The drawing is a bit above beginner, the painting is definitely beginner-tier.

>>2562606
>The drawing is a bit above beginner
not even fucking close

>>2562564
Keep projecting, lmao

YOU GUYS WHAT ABOUT STUDY THREAT?

>>2562606
Yea I agree with that. To me, it looks unfinished, definitely could use some blending

>>2562605
I refuse to post a meme

>>2562608
>not even fucking close
Actually, the eyes are titled, so im unsure if its a stylistic choice. But the keystone and skull seem to be in check. The side of the head shows a brow and cheek bone outline.

I think the drawing would be solved if the eyes were closer together. The mouth and nose aligned with the face. And maybe touch up the keystone's location. Fuck the left eyebrow

>>2562650
Theres already a Study Thread. Unless we can post another one? But shit hit the fan when there was 2 porn threads a long time ago.

Might as well shitpost and discuss art while the other thread dies

>>2562605
How does other drawings make the one in the OP less shit?

>>2562695
Quality is relative. If every artist for all of history drew at a level worse than the OP pic, then that image would be considered a masterpiece.

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what is this fucking thread

>>2562722
Too bad this is clearly far from the case, which is why everyone knows it's shit to begin with.

>>2562722
But we already know that it is objectively shit compared to an average global standard among aspiring artists so the question stands.

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>>2562676
I legit have a thing for eyes that are far apart, this hasnt been something i had the possibility of doing though. My dream girl looks like Ryonen. So you can expect to see this more in the future as i skill up.
>>2562729
>>2562754
hows your art?

>>2562761
>Ur art
Been asked if I do commissions plenty of times. How about you? And no, I don't want my art associated with your shitposting.

>>2562761
Not terrible enough that I'd be a laughing stock after two years, desu

>>2562770
>Ur
kys

>>2562784
Triggered or just mad?

>>2562761
Pretty sure that girl has fetal alchol syndrome.

>>2562791
triggered, good job

>>2562761
the distance between her eyes man, I cant. I dig the lips and jaw line though

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>>2562794
i checked she hasnt
if she does i dont mind
>>2562770
>>2562782
sample?
>>2562807
my friend keeps calling her a fish and it hurts my feelings more than anything i/c has ever said

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>>2562895

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>>2562897

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>>2562898

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>>2562899
you can probably see the commonalities by now

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>>2562900

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>>2562902
i think this picture is the point at which non artist feel me going to the realm of creepyness. This is black ryonen.

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>>2562904

>>2562902
hot, sweet haircut

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>>2562907
let me throw a curveball last and say i also like girls with sharp eyes just because they look cool. Even though this one is ugly-ish.

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>>2562913
however, i like my guy faces clean and angular. No separation of the eyes, This handsome fellow is actually on i/c.

>>2562913
She kind of looks like how Yoshitaka Amano draws faces

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>>2562915
I also like guys who have an odd mister bean feel. Like they have funny faces but arent necessarily pretty

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>>2562918

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>>2562921
if you could max the thread thatd be great

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>>2562921
I like my old men italian looking. And I dont like old women. Shitty spoiled designed desu.

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>>2562922

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>>2562923
completely average feature wise faces are also acceptable for men. Luckily

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>>2562924

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>>2562927
even in minorities.


im done for now

If you drew more and spammed less this thread wouldn't exist in its current state.

>>2562931
youve got the correlation backwards.

>>2562955
shes right you know

>>2562931
This thread exists in its current state due to the thread title and OP image.

Anons expressed how a 3 tier system wouldnt be optimal. Other anons expressed how they would like another frequent thread, similar to the /beg/ thread.

There were a few anons that posted in this thread with the desire to participate, but were shunned.


Anons could have reported this thread if it adds nothing to the community. Yet here it is. It still stands.

This trial thread will have a round 2, trust me. With the information given in this thread, I believe another attempt will yield more criticism; and will allow more improvements. This thread was suppose to fail, that shouldve been obvious.

>>2562958
assumed female. neat. im drawing as we speak fag.

>>2562960
Good. You've got a lot of catching up to do.

>>2562960

I'm just picturing you right now with your boyfriends >>2562959 cock in your ass while you type this post in a dark room with dildos all over the desk.

>>2562959
So you posted bait and had a change of heart so are trying to sell it as something else. Smooth.

>>2562971
Actually had a discussion with some anons a few days ago before this thread went up.

>so are trying to sell it as something else
Dont get me wrong, I wanted this thread to succeed, but I wasnt sure what to title the thread. So I went with intermediate. I posted The One True Nose Bros drawing to get the attention needed for anons to come in the thread and post. I used the Nose Bro name as well.

And look, people came, people complained, and I was able to take notes.

Kinda like those census people knocking on your door and bothering you. It sucks, but its necessary

>>2562982
You decided to test a thread by sabotaging it from the very get-go? Smart. Whatever the real reason is, take your garbage elsewhere. Nosebro generates enough negativity without other people contributing.

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Am I gonna make it?

Was a warm up for the day took about thirty minutes or so.

>>2563008
>>>/beginner/

>>2562998
>Smart
sarcasm?

>take your garbage elsewhere
Were it so easy

>Nosebro generates enough negativity without other people contributing
I wont use the name next time since I got a census on whose interested in a new frequent thread. I gotta thank the shitposting anons for bumping the thread and giving it front page

>>2563039
this thread is idiotic. the title is retarded and the idea is redundant. you can stop now. in fact you're probably underage so just get out.
how about thinking things through next time before making a goddamn general type thread?

>>2562761
>muh style/taste excuse
do you have a thing for mongolian faces as well? at this rate you're done as an artist nosebro.
instead of practicing you're obsessed wth labels like beginner or intermediate. if you don't start to leave your ego at the door you will stay shit forever.

the same goes for all nose bro posters. it's funny how your name became synonymous with cancer on /ic/ regardless of wether it is you or not, isn't it?

>>2563330
>this thread is idiotic
If it was idiotic, why wasnt it removed?

>the idea is redundant
whats redundant about the idea? Any constructive criticism?

>you're probably underage
The things I'd do just to be young again.

>how about thinking things through next time before making a goddamn general type thread
In order to succeed you must first fail anon

Nosebro and the other iterations of Nosebro are trying way too hard to have some kind of political influence on /ic/ the way I see it.

>>2563622
I just like shitposting and dislike nosebro, lets not read too deep into this.

>>2563623
I hate him too just as much as the next, normal person, but, I think you put him on your mind way too much for that hate to preoccupy your mind to the point where you literally spend hours on one of the slowest boards on a site for cheap cartoons just to crappost about some 19 year old kid who is just getting his life started. You say you're old. The guy has plenty of time to get better while you continue to lose plasticity insulting him rather than getting better at drawing (if you draw at all that is).

>>2563626
man, its not like I'm sat here refreshing while not doing anything, i just post occasionally during study breaks.

>>2563631
>>2563623
kill yourself

thanks for portrait refs nose bro. im getting sick of drawing the same ugly fucks from artistpixely

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>>2559733
You're on the right path. Your image became just too "grey" overall and lacks contrast. When I upped the contrast, it already got more depth.
Of course you could improve the construction of the head but that is obvious.

>>2559733

... did you even measure the face?

>>2563731
Your edit looks like its from a 90's horror game, senpai.
And I don't mean it in a good way.

>>2563755

His values are still better. Changing the values won't make it better drawn but it's a start.

Jesus christ that OP pic

>>2563626
complisults with an accurate idea of how old I am. Who are you?

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I wish I had someone to beat me into drawing and not being a faggot. I get so stressed and anxiety riddled when it comes to draw. I've been dealing with this for years. I caved and got put on medication two years ago, have gone to therapists and even tried hypnosis, but nothing fixes the overwhelming stress.

There is so much to learn in drawing and coming up with some sort of game plan is hard. It's also difficult to pace myself. I get really caught up in things; whenever I get into something I spend numerous hours a day doing whatever it is, and when I'm not actively studying, I'm thinking about it. I get burnt out out a week or two.

I guess I'm just venting. I've got all the books in the world to study from and plenty of free time; I've been drawing since I was a child and have a solid grasp on things that a lot of people don't, but I still get so upset when I draw. I want to form some sort of simple daily routine for drawing but every time I try it just overwhelms me and it makes me stop.

I was thinking about printing out seven master drawings a week, one for each day, and then doing a copy, going back over my drawing to fix the errors, and then drawing it again from memory. Not sure how effective such a schedule would really be.

>>2560255
It looks a little bit like gollum

>>2564311
are you having fun drawing? If not, just stop imo. This seems to be unhealthy for you. If you do, just also draw whats fun for you and dont just study.

>>2564311

You and me both, buddy. I think the first step is to just accept to never underestimate how long it will take to become pro, or hell, even intermediate. That is why this thread is a spit in the face to intermediate artists. You are a beginner for the first 2-4 years of serious study. If you properly gauge the time it will take by not set perimeters but quadrupling the practice only then will you see gains.

can somebody posts some nose bro's art to see how good/bad he actually is? I wanna see if he's really an intermediate artists. is there any more other than the OP pic?

>>2564886
http://xnosebro.tumblr.com

>>2564892
is that really it? but that's just a bunch of doodles, man I leave /ic/ for a month and shit keeps getting worse.
but why all the hate? only because he uses a name?

>>2564900
Because he thinks those doodles give him the authority to shit on fellow beginners for some reason. And rampant shitposting.

>>2564905
i'd say you guys just let him be, judging by his comments (that I'm reading right now) on other beg threads, he is obviously autistic.

>>2564911
Since when has /ic/ been a safe space for autists?

>>2564911
he isn't, just very persistent

>>2564913
haha well I guess you're right, there's a reason why many of us don't use deviantart.

>>2564911
3/4 of the comments on the board atm arent even me

>>2564944
But who tells me the one posting now isn't falseflagging?

>>2564948
me.

>>2564969
flash me

>>2564969
well if you have any respect for this community, you and all the other people using the nose bro name, should probably stop doing it. and that goes to the guy who created this thread too, I mean I would really like to have an intermediate general, but not like this, and not whit all these nose bro shit posting, whether it's actually him or all the other impersonators, we're supposed to be getting better, not shit posting. or maybe we can have a "name general" for all the people who desperately want recognition.

>>2565015

>well if you have any respect for this community

He doesn't, if it isn't obvious already.

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>>2564969
this isnt even fucking me god damn it.

>>2565111
Post something that looks like it took longer than two minutes

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>>2565114

>>2565118
Is that really your best effort? Two minutes versus fifteen at best?

>>2565118
>>2565119
It took me more than 2min to make that. I tried using Krita to type, but that failed. Then I had to mess around in MSPaint. Not my brightest moment

>>2565122
Quiet, you. I want to see nostril's best work.

>>2565118
hi i have a crit,
Your skin colors are really lifeless, rather than using just browns experiment with using reds, blues, and oranges in the face. If you paint traditionally at all, mixing all of your own colors (only using red yellow blue and white out of the tube), helps a ton to understand color.
Keep studying the face as well, it seems that you have an understanding of the elements of the face, but not how the eyes, mouth, and nose lay on the face together, and it shows in your rendering and makes the whole thing look flat. Your problem areas are the forehead, and chin to jaw to temple area.
Keep studying!

>>2559620
The proportions are off (the torso is huge, like this guy is jacked) and his shoulder/neck area looks wrong. Your shading is a bit messy, but serves well to show value so keep improving that, just take time to study your figure first before you render it.

>>2560211
Work on cleaning up your work, the scribbles bring the work down a lot >>2560240
I like your shading a lot, looks so sleek, brighten up those highlights tho cause feathers are shiny
>>2560255
The most glaring thing is that the jaw is lopsided, post your ref next time cause I have an inkling that there are some proportion issues going on
>>2563008
She is real funky lookin, I think her face makes me the most uncomfortable. Keep studying proportions and foreshortening, the work is really clean and has great lines but the girl is, again, real funky lookin

I also have crit of the thread itself,
Not many people have studied the provided ref material, so idk how appealing it is, also, more crits are needed. I don't like the idea of intermediate thread as said by many others, because the majority of the thread has been ppl yelling if they should be in this thread or not, with nothing constructive at all.

>>2565127
hey anon. this is the first critique ive gotten in 6 months. LOL

>>2565122
not me but youre getting closer to my style of typing

>>2565158
Post best work

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>>2565118
I think (s)he has a bit of a wide face, pic related may be more natural

>>2565178
The original was very stylized, so you just undid some of that and made it more realistic. Yours though does have a much better grasp of form and light and the mouth is much better. Nose is out of perspective pretty badly though.

>>2565111
might as well be you, you're both shit

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i'm trying to get into matte painting but too often I feel like i'm just pushing paint around. anyone know any decent videos or books that capture the essence of it pretty well?

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shit I doodled for LAS

So this thread isn't for filthy beginner scum like me, yes?
Maybe something between beginner and drawtread.
If I ever make some decent progress I would totaly post here.
That is if by that time a thread like this still exists, looks interesting to me.

>>2565507
If you want to do matte painting start learning how to use 3d and photos since that's mostly what it is these days.

why dont you fags just draw instead of shitty insults towards other artist?

>>2561283
>god shitmaster youre such a faggot
it wasn't me, I swear.

>>2567346
You fucking waited for this to be on the bottom of the fucking page so you could bump it though.

sage

>>2566934
come on, insulting nose bro is hilarious. So is being nosebro.

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>>2559444
first time on /ic/, i would like to improve

>>2567401
Does this board usually go very slow? I would like some critique or tips to get better

>>2568281
ur not getting any

>>2567401
The head is pretty small and doesn't have its place in perspective. Although old-fashioned, counting heads is what you need.
>https://youtu.be/iFyCjoVQGCQ?t=3m20s

Another thing are the muscles. You obviously know them pretty well, but you don't draw them pretty well. Thing about which are flexed and which are relaxed. Don't forget to draw a layer of fat over them.
Lastly, make sure they all follow the same gesture. This can be seen on your left arm - it's straight and stiff, give it a nice organic curve.

Git gud m8.

>>2568315
(skip to 3:20 for a demonstration on how to use head counting)

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>tfw you suck ducks

>>2569032
>those perspectives
good stuff

>>2559620
Kek, this is utter shit dude.

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>>2569057
ya, I know mang, tried to fix some of the issues.

>>2569207
stop bumping the fucking thread
>>2569054
not me

sage

>>2569208
>>>2569207 (You)
>stop bumping the fucking thread

you say what?

>>2569208
use a tripcode nose sis

>>2569249
trademark not intendet though

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I give up. The only way to kill the thread is by boosting it to 300. the only way to do so is to start a flame war. The only way to do so is to post my work

>>2569276
god that styles so ugly. that nose. is that where you got your name???

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mfw people post art in this thread

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>>2569280
i like big noses.

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>>2569280
better?

>>2569311
no, it looks flat and far too puffy. Also there's no context

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>>2569319
>Also there's no context
focus on the nose

>>2569323
the entire face looks off, its too puffy, And the drawing is too flat

>>2569324
>its too puffy, And the drawing is too flat
can you redline?

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>>2569323
>>2569311
>>2569295
Stop drawing anime, you hopeless loser.

>>2569326
its a slow transition out! don't worry about it!

>>2569323
are you only drawing in profile because its the easiest view?

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>>2569333
unrelated senpai

>>2569338
You uh, forgot an eyebrow there

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going to sleep, maybe a redline or people getting triggered to 300 tomorrow.

I'm sure this one can max the thread out.

Note: I no longer ask for people to post their work individually as it takes too much time

>>2569342
thats where i gave up.

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r8 my animu shit

>>2569343
bed by 10:30? what are you some kind of child? get back here and bump your thread off /ic/.

>>2569357
0
looks like a guy. git gud piece of shit.

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>>2569208
>not me
im pretty sure anons can tell by the name

>>2569343
aye, bottom left is bs, so ignore the shitline

>>2569357
you want me to shitline it Familysan?

>>2569400

Do it sen pie

>>2569400
yeh shitline it
>>2569398
good ol /ic/ i see

>>2569357

>fused fingers

So that's why she's hiding her hands from the people in front of her.

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>>2569357
heres a shitline, measure how much shit it is, then study so you can do better than this shit

>>2569400
>>2569437
What the fuck are you doing nigger? You're literally tracing it with a diff. Color

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;-;

>>2569437
Thank you my nigger

>>2569447
its called a shitline anon, its different from a redline

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>>2569465

Stop embarrassing yourself.
>>2569453
he literally did nothing

>>2569470
if you want anon, I could shitline one of your drawings? I know /ic/ is tough, but youre welcomed here anon

>>2569474

I have enough plasticity to see my own faults and know what I need to improve on without a 2nd opinion.

>>2569477
dubs dont lie. Just make sure you avoid becoming warped anon

>>2569470
I know but he went through all the trouble to outline my animu shit

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>>2569357

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Shit tier but practice with India pen.

>>2569508
>>2570579
Nice

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>>2559441
more refs

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>>2570691
ref 2/10

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>>2570693
re 3/10

>>2570694
ref 4/10

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>>2570695
ref 5/10

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>>2570696
ref 6/10

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>>2570697
ref 7/10

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>>2570699
ref 8/10

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>>2570701
ref 9/10

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>>2570702
ref 10/10

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Don't wanna seem too big for my britches, but I was wondering if this would be ok for this thread? Also, any possible tips to make him look less like he shat himself and more like shading?

>>2569264
this looks simple enough and pretty.
did you use reference?

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Am I intermediate, guys? I just did this underpainting in tempera.

>>2560255

RIP Bowie

>>2565236
No its not lol you faggot.