I will never be a Murata tier in my lifetime

>>2553027
I will, watch me anon

>>2553027
Not with that attitude.

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>>2553027
Just practice drawing chipmunks and you'll do fine.

>>2553027
>you will never draw realistic face in any angle accurately with imagination

>you will never draw amazing anatomy

>you will never draw amazing rendering

>you wii never draw grat masterpiece

>nobody like your art for several years

>>2553027
>anime

>>2553027
that hands

>>2553027
I don't have enough innocence left in me to draw something like that. It's mostly coloring technique quality wise though right? I think you'd be surprised at the progress you can make with the right know how and practice.

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>>2553095
/thread

>>2553092
why not

>>2553027

Ok

Believing in yourself and your own potential is the first step to realizing that potential.

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>>2553027
just gotta practice

>>2553027
Not with that attitude, anon.

>>2553068
They're pretty cute chipmunks

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>>2553123
>Murata
>innocent

>>2554170
I think anon is saying to study anatomy more and grasp the concept behind it before changing/making your style.

Its like trying to learn how to make a game without first studying programming, art, or knowing the engine and just jumping straight in like the information is just going to magically become one with your brain.

>>2553027
but you can try anon
also you must know he draw on paper then scan his shit and paintdigital with CorelDraw Painter
this technique is super efective
TonyTaka uses it
Tae Kim-Hyung uses it
Yoshinari Bros uses it
Katsuya Terada uses it
download Corel Draw Today

>>2554331
What the fuck is CorelDraw Painter?

>>2554332
ok dont report me to my shill overseers i mean Corel Painter®

Buy it now

Anime is pretty easy to draw. Idk why you guys are so enthralled in it. Their just simple stylized lines. Takes little talent. Anyone can spit one out. It takes real mastery to paint or draw still life and I believe it cant be done on a computer. At least for me, its too need lessly complicated. I prefer the old fashion way.

>>2554389

Lets see your anime then.

>>2554389
Post your work faggot

>>2554394
>>2554393
I wouldnt waste my time on something like that plus im not at my computer right now. Jesus you guys are very touchy. I think anime is very generic and inorganic looking. I think if you start getting too into anime you start loosing interest in the beauty of the natural world. You start to see things as dynamic, bland shapes rather than the texture and intriquet lighting. Anime is only good commercially as it is easy to brand and mass produce. Shameless.

>>2554399
>I wouldnt waste my time on something like that

As expected.

>calling you out for saying something is easy
>touchy

If its so trivially easy to you why don't you just try it?

>>2554404
Because he doesn't want to filth his mind/pen with us lower class commoners.

>>2554404
I have once. It bores me though. I usually work with charcoal and sometimes paper but most of my drawings are not digital. I cant be bothered to learn the software and tablets cost a fortune. Its just a hobby of mine im not too invested in it or even selling it for that matter. Im never really satisfied with what I do though.

>>2554408
>>2554399
>>2554389
you are walking bait anon, do you know that? here, have 3 (you)s

Why does everyone here like the anime style? I understand the stories in these cartoons may be really interesting, but doesnt it get boring watching over simplified things over and over again? I think sometimes this is what looses its connection with the audience. Besides I think cartoons should stick to being a childrens thing. It makes me uncomfrotable seeing hentai sometimes. It just isn't right.

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>>2554422
>I think cartoons should stick to being a childrens thing

No, a medium shouldn't be bound to things like that. Art can't progress with that kind of thinking.

>>2554425
Wow, source? This looks really interesting.

>>2554425
Id much rather see dramatic scenes like that acted out instead. Its kinda cringey getting emotional over cartoons in my opinion.

>>2554428
>not appreciating the beauty of and skill behind animation

Are you trying to come off as "mature" or something? You have a very narrow mindset.

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>>2554427
Magnetic Rose it's a story in the movie Memories

>>2554428
Why are you so preoccupied trying to avoid/differentiate what is "childish?"

It's just stories in the end. Do you stop yourself from reading Alice's Adventures in Wonderland just because it's a children's book?

It's only a medium. What you do with the medium is what really matters.

>>2554437
I appreciate animation and all but I dont think its for adults. It doesnt feel right. I feel ashamed if I even remotely get interested in anime. Ive seen way too many creepy awkward man children attracted to the artstyle and I just dont want to be a part of that.

>>2554428
>lol how can anyone ever feel shit when reading a book, it's literally a peace of paper and that character doesn't even exist
>lol

>>2554428
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpEa3PZB018

Cringey af, shoulda used real deer

>>2554443
>I feel ashamed if I even remotely get interested in anime. Ive seen way too many creepy awkward man children attracted to the artstyle and I just dont want to be a part of that.

So you care more about how other people perceive you?

How sad.

>>2554428
Personally I find it easier to get immersed in wholly 2D works since it's easier to take the entirety in as a 'real' world. Bending and breaking 'rules' or expectations is fine since it's not rooted in reality.

Live action leads to a lot of immersion breaking when SFX/CGI gets juxtaposed with the real world or having to wonder how they accomplish shots or questioning whether these 'real world' characters are actually thinking like a normal person. Surrealistic live action like Mulholland Drive and Oldboy probably give off the closest vibes I can get from 2d animations.

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>>2554443
Why is is it so hard for people to differentiate media and the subcultures that crowd around the media?

Judge art for the art, not for the people that crowd around it.

Why is it so hard to say something is well made?

>>2554451
Thats the thing. Im not too keen on fantasy. Sure it makes a story interesting and all but when a story is set more realistically and deales with more relatable issues it makes it that much more memorable. at least for me.

>>2554422
>Why does everyone here like the anime style?
Because having those same stories would be better with a cartoon style, right?

>but doesnt it get boring watching over simplified things over and over again?
Learn to appreciate your shit, this is no different than why do people read something when they can watch the movie.

>Besides I think cartoons should stick to being a childrens thing.
Thanks for people like you the cartoon industry is what it is, faggot.

>It makes me uncomfrotable seeing hentai sometimes. It just isn't right.
This is something entirely different, people will sexualize everything and anything and you can't do nothing about it.

>>2554453
Shouldnt the people who crowd around it say something about the media itself?

>>2554455
Fantasy is just a setting. Good fantasy still hinges on human nature and emotions.

>>2554453
People will attack you and you may not always survive. It's therefore better to play it safe and havr a group mentality.

>>2554428
While we are at Disney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3NoDEu7kpg
Yep, some CG bullshit would've worked 100x times better.

>>2554458
I just cant take it seriously
Sometimes it gets so outlandish i cant help but laugh. The worst is when it takes itself too seriosuly and there are stupid things like dragons and monsters running around! xD

>>2554463
>xD

>>2554463
>The worst is when it takes itself too seriosuly and there are stupid things like dragons and monsters running around! xD
You were doing some amazing trolling until this line, which is just too obvious.

>>2554464
What? Did I type it wrong or something?

>>2554457
Western anime fans that define themselves with anime are fucking cancer inducing and everyone and their mom knows that, those same people know 5 or 10 titles at best.

>>2554463
>! xD
So, you only watch mature movies for mature people like yourself.

>>2554467
I dont really watch movies all that much to be honest. Most of the times I like thinking up stories and plssiblilties in my head or reading them online. When I draw I usually draw animals and plants I see. Granted i dont think theyre any good but its more of a thing I do just to add them to my collection.

>>2554468
*possibilities

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>>2554457
Yes and no.

It should say something but it shouldn't say everything. If you consume a piece of media just review it for what it is and not reviewing the other people in the room with you.

>>2554460
Talking about something and liking it are entirely different things. If the masses hate something that you like they won't ever know if you don't speak up about it.

>>2554467
I dont understand whats so wrong with acting your own age?

>>2554467
Do respectable people watch anime? I am asking this genuinely. I think its okay if you keep it under raps and dont condone it. Its much better that way.

>>2554457
People are dumb shits and misinterpret or skew works. Look at all the fucking edgelords who love Fight Club but don't get it or the faux suicidal girls who obsessed over Sylvia Plath for aesthetic reasons. There's a difference between a pandering work and a work that gets heavily misconstrued.

>>2554476
Nowadays, yes. Ever since 2012, normal people can watch anime now.

>>2554473
>acting your own age

That's just it. It's acting. It's basing you self worth around the idea of how you should be instead of actually being "yourself."

As long as you're a productive member of society (you feed yourself, you bathe yourself, you pay own bills) I don't give a fuck what you do as a pastime as long as you pay for your own shit. Being an adult doesn't mean you can't have fun. Personally I think the meaning of an adult is to be self reliant and eventually being able to have other people rely on you. Watching anime doesn't even factor into this

>>2554476
There's that chart of famous people that watch/watched anime but then again they all know those same 5 tittles and it really doesn't tell you anything, there's Robin Williams for example that loved Evangelion and specially Rei. Not like they can be considered "respectable people", but also then you have Lewis Carol trying to fuck some child and many more examples.

>>2554473
>whats so wrong with acting your own age
>I only watch serious though provoking works all the time
>yet I post on some anime oriented image board and type like some 11 yo

>>2554476
Anime is becoming mainstream the same way comic book superheroes are. Give it around 7-9 years.

>>2554486
Robin williams wasnt a good actor in my opinion. I could never take him seriosuly. in every movie I kept expecting him to go into that stupid genie voice or something.

>>2554473
what makes animation as a medium inherently childish? what makes an adult-targeted cartoon not for adults?

>>2554490
Gee I hope not. Men are becoming way too effeminate and the women more masculine. If this trend keeps going i dont know what I'll do.

>>2554490
No it isn't, Hollywood trying to force it is another thing.
>in 7-9 years people jerking off to a cartoon of underage school girls will be mainstream

Seriously fuck anyone who likes anime openly.

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>>2554497
>in 7-9 years people jerking off to a cartoon of underage school girls will be mainstream

Funny you say that

>>2554495
well for one, theyre not realisitc. Try as you may, they will never resemble actual people. Which is why cosplay is always objectively awful.

>>2554501
Openly anon, openly. Who do you think watch that hentai? The same people that consist on the anime western fandom that need to stream their porn, fucking casuals.

>>2554503
>realistic=mature
>they will never resemble actual people

>Which is why cosplay is always objectively awful.
While I want to agree with you, when you have the money and enough eye to catch the small detail you can get a nice cosplay, just watch any fantasy movie and you'll see a fantasy setting done in 3D.

>>2554503
Are you the type of person who think a painting has less worth or craftsmanship because it's not realism?

Because that's kind of the vibe I'm getting here.

>>2554497
I agree. No grown MAN should like anime openly. I can understand a young lady getting a kick out of it, but a man? Now thats just a joke. I dont usually browse 4chan and in my few days ive been here I can tell that most people here dont have a sense of dignity or honor. I may not have the most dignity at times, but im sure as hell better off than most of the people on this site. i will admit, i have been feeling a little depraved myself ever since I started browsing. I should probably stop now but for some reason I cant help coming back.

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>>2554501
the results are in

the people want teen lesbians with big dicks

>>2554505
I dont like any of that modern abstract art if thats where youre getting at.

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>>2554506
I agree anon, a real MAN fucks other men in the ass. Like the Greeks did. Any thing less is just untermensch propaganda.

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>>2554506
I have no idea why these kind of people come to 4chan.

What did you expect?

>>2554503
why are you here then? if you believe animation can never tell realistic stories with realistic people, and that that makes it childish and therefore beneath you, then by extension still paintings and drawings in general can't be for adults either.

I'm not saying the majority of cartoons and anime made aren't targeted at, and could only be enjoyed by, children and teenagers. They are. I'm saying it isn't outside of the mediums potential to appeal to adults exclusively.

Agreed on cosplay though, fuck cosplay.

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>>2554514
>Agreed on cosplay though, fuck cosplay.


I think we can all agree on that, anon.

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>>2554506
>sense of dignity or honor.

>>2554460
That's coward mentality.

>>2554506
Fuck off, insecure faggot
>>2554519
He was being sarcastic

>>2554518
Oh fuck off xD
Neckbeards are just as bad if not worse

>>2554522
>hates anime
>continually uses xD like a 13 yo girl who fandubs

>>2554428
Id much rather see photographies like that instead. Its kinda cringey making art when you could just take a photograph

>>2554552
This, art has become obsolete ever since colored film was invented.

>>2554555

>Colored film

Obsolete ever since real life was invented

>>2554503
I wish normal fags would finally realize how shitty films are. Why would you voluntarily force yourself to the constraints of this universe when you're trying to tell a story? Using actors for movies is limited and dumb, and I would really like to see it die. I blame the fear people have of drawing.

That being said, I don't like how anime looks, and I'd much rather have it replaced by a more "traditional" type of animation, but that's just because how anime is usually drawn (I don't like the silly or kaywyay expressions, they're kind of dumb.)

>>2554522
18+ website, nigga.

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>>2554584
>but that's just because how anime is usually drawn
But that's just because of how anime is usually drawn

It's gotten to the point where when I think of anime I think of pic related, and if you talk to me about Miyazaki for instance, I just call it animation, not anime.

I just hate these kind of expressions so bad; not because they're childish or silly, but simply because they gut any attempts of creating atmosphere in my opinion, it kills any form of immersion.

>>2554552
>>2554555

>art has become obsolete
why are you here again?

>>2554506
>>No grown MAN should like anime openly
what about the ones who literally make it for a living? are you going to suddenly make an exception in your logic for this?
i'm confident that they're more successful than you, so lets see how your complex plays out for this question.
i'm waiting.

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>>2554591
>i'm confident that they're more successful than you

Not him, but you'd be wrong.

>>2554594
i really doubt that one example you've nit-picked represents the entire industry anon
also unless you know this other anon to be some super successful person who still has time to sit around posting on imageboards such as this, i'm sticking to my guns that their net worth is very likely lower than those who make anime
what makes you a man is how you choose to take the ideas in your mind and execute them in the real world, not purely just the contents of your mind itself.
anyone can claim to be a mastermind, but if it's all in their head and never expressed in any other way, where's the evidence to back up their claim?

>>2554428
This POST is cringey.

>>2554443
>It doesnt feel right.

You're feelings are not in the LEAST important, idiot.

>>2553027

Of course you won't, there can be only one - me.

>>2553065
/thread

>>2554588

Someone can't into sarcasm.

>>2554642
now i have to study sarcasm

>>2554646
>>2549412

>>2554443
>I appreciate animation and all but I dont think its for adults. It doesnt feel right.
And here, folks, is the main reason why 2D animation in USA is dead.

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Sort of regret shouldn't have focused study solely on just human anatomy. Clothes, background, mechanical are whole different beast.

>>2554521
>He was being sarcastic
It's the truth tho

>>2554389
The point of drawing in an anime style is just that though. Simple, stylized lines that are quick to produce. Its how animators for anime and manga artist produce so much stuff quickly and fairly efficiently. Its also stylized to be appealing to the eye. And since its simplified, its easier to convey things like emotion and exaggerate expressions without looking off.

Its only natural that we take an interest into a hobby because we were drawn to it by something else, right? Like how some people play video games and want to become a programmer or artist or how some people get into music and want to make their own. Or watching Bob Ross got them into painting, watching Top Gear or Initial D got them into cars.

ITT: people struggling with the guilt by association fallacy

>>2554665
Just learn to use Inventor or SolidWorks and you'll get anything you want, trust me.

>>2554453
I reallly miss water color backgrounds in anime

>>2554422
>It just isn't right.
Too bad drawn porn exist since fucking forever, unless you are talking about most cartoon porn that is fucking hideous and painful to see.

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>>2554646
Good luck, I'm behind 7 layers of irony.

>>2554453

This is wings of honieamease (sp?) right

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>>2555618
It's actually the second Patlabor movie

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>>2554997
i miss cel animation in general t b h

>>2555763
>yuri

PICKED THE FUCK UP

>>2555763
source?

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>>2556171
Yokohama Kaidashi Kiko

>>2554399
>plus im not at my computer right now

Are you by any chance posting between reps at the gym

>>2553027
>wanting to be weeb tier

>>2556548
>giving this many shits about "weeb tier" artstyles

>>2553068
Oddly enough I feel like this is really good advice

>>2554399
Unpopular opinion but i agree to an extent. I feel like all cartoons are slowly degrading in style, especially anime. I mean I didn't grow up in the 80's but compared anime from that time to many of the current and you'll find than older anime were much more varied in character design. Like Im pretty sure Escaflowne was from early 90's but all the characters are different in appearance. The face shapes and body types differed enough that if you were shown the outline you could figure out who it was (mostly by the size of their noses I mean have you seen that anime?)


But anyway many modern anime really lower the standard for character design and such. I feel as though alot of it is just copy paste one body and then they slap some hair on it and call it a day.

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>>2558158
That just means we can appreciate anime that deviates from the norm even better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcSuAhbtIFg

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>>2558158
Wow look at that variation! The 90s sure were the best time to be alive.

>>2558158

I think it's the same with design in games and movies.

If you think of art styles as the offspring of creative minds breeding different ideas together what you see now is massive interbreeding at a large scale. The genetic quality of design is deteriorating due to incestuos design practices.
It makes sense that when art references itself the genetic pool of ideas go stale.

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>>2558168
sweet fuck i love ping pong

>>2554228
Why's his cigarette bent ?

>>2558158
The volume and demand of animation from that little country grows every year my friend.

>>2554428
This is really sad.

>>2558177
wtf the nose

>>2559802
It's an anime cliche

>>2558250
ping pong is bless

>>2553027
"When I was at university, I had a teacher ( who was also an artist) who gave this advice to the students, "Even if you draw very well, how much do you actually CARE about art?" 90% of my time is devoted to my art, whereas the other 10% would be eating, sleeping, and all the everyday essentials. The point is if you are serious about pursuing art as a career, you have to be thinking about it every day. In essence, it has to be something you truly care about. Just having the ability is not enough. For example, say you had a girlfriend: would you choose the girl or the art? You would literally have to choose art; that's how focused you would have to be… I’m not sure if that's something you should say to someone in that situation, but you really have to be all in. People who are just kind of beating around the bush and not going all in, they're not going to make it." - Range Murata, 2015

Are you going to make it?

>>2553027
Of course you wont because there is only one Murata, but anon-kun can always become anon-kun.

Thought this would be a cool thread talking about Murata's work and all I got were these dumb anons!

Also to that one Anon. Overusing the word "cringe" makes me cringe. Also no one gives a fuck about your feels.

>>2554444
the quads of truth.

>>2554463
You absolutely sound like a mature person who watches only the news, because it's too mature.
>xD

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>>2553027
Oh Murata. You are a god like designer and fashion artist. You are a master of industrial design. Your paintings have amazing colors, composition, and rendering technique.

But why Murata. Why do you have to be a fucking pedophile. I want to call you my favorite artists like I use to but you just become more and more like a child rapist every year.

>>2554443
>I appreciate animation and all but I dont think its for adults
I don't understand, why shouldn't animation be for adults?

>>2554457
No.

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>>2564650
Nigger, please. Drawing lolis doesn't make someone a pedo

>>2565808

If someone draws gay men having gay sex all the time it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that person is in fact gay himself.

>>2564650
Him being a pedophile is just a huge plus in my book. Rock on Murata! Fuck the haters and continue doing what you love.

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>>2565828
If they have sex? Okay. Have range murata drawn lolis having sex?

>>2565828
That is like saying I draw futa on futa that I like dick.

>>2566370
you do. otherwise it'd be girl on girl

>>2566393
Nope. I can't fap to anything gay besides lesbians. I tried.

>>2564650
Kill yourself my man

>>2554600
it doesnt. I've been a production assistant at a major studio in canada and we made less than animators....because we did less work. production stuff is way the fuck easier than animation

>>2566406
No, you're a faggot. There is no such thing as girls with dicks. Just guys with boobs and long hair.
>>2565808
>>2565833
>defending pedophilia
Right, because painting a little girl sticking her almost bare ass in the air like a bitch in heat isn't erotic or suggestive.

There is only one reason you would sexualize a child as much as Murata. It surely isn't because he's trying to raise awareness of child sexual abuse.

Anon, you're in denial. You're sexually aroused by children.

>>2567086
something something Ron White something research

Don't be ashamed of yourself for liking to watch pus get pounded by big throbbing dicks, sonny.

>>2567086
First, actual children don't look like that, it's a painting anon they're not real.
Second, there is literally nothing wrong with having a fetish, as long as you don't act out on it, thats part of being an adult, and there hasn't been any reports of him going out and raping children.
When you look at Murata, you see that instead of being a pathetic insecure little bitch like you, he simply channels his appreciation for beauty and cuteness into making beautiful paintings of cute girls

>>2567102
>thats part of being an adult
Judging by his insecure ramblings, I doubt he knows anything about what being an adult is like.

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>>2567086
if you seriously think someone is pedo just because they like drawing children then yeah, no. that's not how it works.

>>2567146
christ you are fucking delusional.

It isn't just "they like to draw children" you faggot and you know that. There is a difference between drawing a child and drawing a child with their skirt up, panties clinging tight, and bent over ass to camera.

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>>2567271

>>2567086
>sexualize
>suggestive

Hi there, Tumblr. Now get the fuck out.

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>>2567306

Uh yeah, his depictions of little girls are often quite sexualized.

>>2567102

It's just not "appreciation for beauty and cuteness" though. It's obvious that he finds pubescent girls around 10-12 year old to be attractive. But hey, you can always go with the "oh they are actually just petite women lol" defence.

>>2565833
1: why is that gif going backwards?
2: Why can I smell those chips?

>drawing loli means you're literally a pedophile
>playing doom means you're literally a mass murderer
>listening to rap means you're literally a cop killer
Anon, if you could stop pearl clutching for just a moment

>>2567814

Why would you enjoy drawing sexualized depictions of children unless you find that attractive?

>>2567814
Different anon, but

Since the US "legalized" gay marriage, soon we'll be able to marry animals! And then children! God bless the left!

I also dont see whats wrong with drawing sexualized children?

>>2554440
holyyyy shit I loved Magnetic Rose. Madame Butterfly was the first opera I've seen, and witnessing opera scores in anime just.. makes me shiver in a good way. Thanks for reminding me.

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>>2567802
And that's the way I like it

>>2567829
>witnessing opera scores in anime just
hope you watched princess tutu and gankutsuou nigga

>>2567826
Based on your shitty logic: drawing furry BDSM porn is basically drawing animal abuse, it means you like it, which makes you an animal abuser, it's a crime and you should be in jail.

This is how anon's brain works.

>>2568002
princess tutu's not my style so I never took interest (maybe the story is good) and the count of monte cristo has an interesting style but I am really not into gay stuff. thanks tho

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>>2568006
>Count of Monte Cristo
>gay stuff

Nigga, the anime is less gay than the actual novel.

>>2567271
There's also a difference between jerking off to a drawing and abusing a child, which apparently you don't seem to understand.

>>2567814
Liking loli means you find obviously underaged subjects and their underaged physical features sexually attractive, which can very much be considered pedophillic. That's pretty much the damn definition of pedophilia.

With things like Doom and rap music, you can easily separate it from real life and fiction. Even kids are capable of doing so.
Meanwhile, you cannot control your dick when it comes to things like sexual attraction, which is the huge difference.

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>>2568061
>implying

Are you unable to tell the difference between a Chinese cartoon and a real kid?

Because I fucking can.

Check yourself for brain tumors and stop browsing /b/. You have cancer or you're retarded.

>>2568061
Except real life kids are ugly and annoying as fuck, your opinion is discarded

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>>2568093
So, if a guy gets turned on by pic related, you wouldn't consider that a homosexual thing?
The image is just fictional, after all! It's not like he's a guy that's into the male body and its masculine attributes, which may or may not be the exact requirements of homosexuality. Right?

Or bisexual if he's into women as well. Doesn't matter.

>>2568123

Liking that picture doesn't instantly says you're a faggot that wants to fuck real men or that you like real men. It only says you're a faggot at best. It won't change your perception of real men.

Liking loli pictures doesn't mean you want to go and molest children or that you like real children. You may call you a pedophile, whatever. It won't make you a child molester.

You must be very special to think a smart person would be retarded enough to not differentiate fiction from reality.

Sorry if lolicon is one of your triggers, but stop being that retarded.

>>2568135
>It only says you're a faggot at best
So people who are into lolicons are pedophiles. Glad we got that solved, friend. And nothing about molestation or actually performing the acts was mentioned, so you can calm down a bit pedo.

If it makes you feel any better, most child molestation aren't even done by people who are pedophiles.

>>2568139
>And nothing about molestation or actually performing the acts was mentioned,
>first post literally called him a child rapist cause he paints cute young girls in underwear that are too old to even be called lolis

>>2568139
Oh, so you write writing text, do you? Well, that makes you a fucking author, doesn't it? And a poet! And a song writer! Which means you're a singer. Which means you're famous and rich. Aha! You're Bieber! See how your arguments work? It's how 6-year olds think. You're literally retarded.

>>2568135
We get it Henry Dauger, you like drawing thousands of little girls.

>>2553027
This thread made me do some Murata studies, thanks, weirdos.

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>>2568381
you're welcome famm

>>2568135

That is a lot of rationalization for drawing figures with child like features in sexual ways :/ Dude isn't necessarily going to molest anyone, nor are any other people who like loli, but it's pretty nonsense to say that they aren't obviously into sexualized, child-like features.

Put it this way. When people who aren't into loli see these pictures, they either feel discomfort at the association or total neutrality. More often the former than the latter, in most people. People on 4chan might be desensitized to the whole thing or otherwise not want to look like they're from tumblr by complaining about it, but normies look at loli and think it's pretty fucking weird.

>>2571255
because they think it's ''cartoons''. and all ''adults'' should leave that behind as a maturing ritual

>>2571259
Yeah, I'm sure the content has nothing to do with it. They're just reacting to a depiction of a little girl with her nips hanging out the same way they react to Spongebob.

>this is what morbidly obese, balding, saucer tits pedophiles actually believe

>>2571255
I'm that anon.

Yeah, I know normies find that weird or disgusting, but there are way fucking worse things on the internet that are real issues.

Loli it's just fucking drawings!

I guaran-fucking-tee that, for bitching that much about computer generated sets of data, 99% of those faggots are special Tumblr snowflakes.

>>2571262
>morbidly obese, balding, saucer tits pedophiles
>this level of projection

I'm so sorry. Did your papa touched your pee-pee when you were little?

>>2571269

He actually did, but that's not the topic

>complaining about 2D pedos while society keep shoving degeneracy like LGBT on our throat to accept it as a norm

>>2571269
>>2571273
Here's your (you), you butthurt babydick pedophile fatbody.

>>2567086
Your head is so much fucked, my son.
Catholic parents, right?

>>2567971
>>2567802
Omg! Stop posting children, you pervs.
Moar pls.

>>2571342
You have confirmed my guesses.
> Triggered by drawings
> Taking the game seriously
> Mentally ill

Either you were abused or you want to feel morally better, accusing others as being greasy pedophiles with no actual evidence other than vague opinions.

Anyways.

>>>/tumblr/
>>>/therapy/

>>2568037
>>2568093
whether you jerk off to child porn or actually fuck a child, you're still getting off to a child.

You're still a pedo you faggot.

Any other excuses? Just admit you're sexually aroused by children you autist.

>>2571255
Again, I want to love murata's art so badly because he really is amazing at design and fashion. His ability to render materials in such a realistic, tactile way is impressive as fuck.

But the children make it so uncomfortable. I want to show people "Hey, look at this awesome bike and cool dress" but the little girl is trying to pull her panties from her pussy crack.

I want to take all of his art and just change the figures to at least adult teenager. This 6 year old shit is fucking creepy.

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>>2571420
Drawings are real, retard. Stop calling characters people. If you can't say anything relevant other than repeating yourself sounding like you have a serious mental illness then fuck off.

>>2571431
>Drawings are real
"aren't

You guys aren't looking at the big picture, being a pedophile isn't inherently wrong, it's acting out on the urges that's the real offence.

No one can be a perpetrator of a crime they don't commit

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>>2571420
>whether you jerk off to child porn or actually fuck a child, you're still getting off to a child.
>child porn
>fuck a child
What about none?

>tfw not even anyone relates lolicon to actual children.

Are you actaully this retarded, nigger?

Or are you so high on chromosomes you can't tell apart real life from fiction?

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>>2564650

>>2564650
fucking kek

>>2571431
>complains about repeating
>keeps repeating he isn't a pedo
Christ
>paintings aren't real!
Paintings represent reality. They represent an idea or subject.

Both of which, in this care, are sexualized children.Which means you are sexually aroused by the idea of a child. Are you really this fucking retarded and dense?

Do you think you aren't a pedo because no one get's hurt?

>>2571425
not only you're insecure as fuck but you're also retarded if you think those girls look anything like 6 years old, they have pretty generic anime proportions high schoolers with big heads, and if anyone actually gets offended by a generic cliche pose they're probably too retarded to appreciate any form of art anyways.

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>>2571440
>being a pedophile isn't inherently wrong, i

>>2571431
>if I post a smug reaction picture and act like I "won" something people won't notice what a fucking idiot I am

Guess again faggot

>>2571440
I'm not even arguing about the morality of it-I actually don't give a shit, personally. I'm just laughing at this fat little manlet in maximum damage control mode trying to imply that it's not pedophillic to jerk off to art depicting prepubescent subjects, while he simultaneously, and rightly, calls it gay to jerk off to art depicting gay shit. What a delusional schizo retard.

>>2571455
>Do you think you aren't a rapist because no one gets raped?

Well...

>>2571456
>you're also retarded if you think those girls look anything like 6 years old
>>2567971
>>2567802

>being this insanely delusional

>>2571425
So you're cool with him as long as he sexualizes 13+ year olds?

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>>2571455
Translation
>hurr hurr hurring hurr durr dur dur PEDO hur hur hurr>>2571457
>>2571458
Now fuck off

>>2571463
>translation: I'm a fat illiterate babydick pedophile retard; now look at this picture of my mom

>>2571459
Uh, to be called a rapist you need to actually rape someone.

To be sexually aroused by a child you don't have to fuck a child. But you still want to. Just because you haven't fucked one yet doesn't change the fact they turn you on.

Is someone not gay until they suck a dick? Sure they don't find women arousing at all and jerk off to gay porn exclusively... but?

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>>2571465

>>2571461
>adult teenage girl
When the fuck is a 13 year old girl considered an adult you fucking retard?

>ADULT
>having attained full size and strength; grown up; mature:
an adult person, animal, or plant.
Which happens well past the age of 13, and closer to 18-19.

DELUSION

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>>2571458
>I'm not even arguing about the morality of it

>I'm just laughing at this fat little manlet in maximum damage control mode trying to imply that it's not pedophillic to jerk off to art depicting prepubescent subjects, while he simultaneously, and rightly, calls it gay to jerk off to art depicting gay shit.

>Who's arguing? Because I'm not. I never was arguing.

Do you want to check your last posts, nigger?

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>>2571460
>generic 6 head figure
>those legs
>that ass
>6 years old
I hope you reconsider your career path if you want to be an artist being this fucking blind

>>2571442
>tfw not even anyone relates lolicon to actual children.
>look like children
>act like children
>dress like children
?????

>>2571314

Lel

I don't see how they're related, but I really don't care much if someone is into loli. It's just that I think it is a close enough representation of a think that exists that I think it probably corresponds to pedophilia. This is actually something that could be tested tho, so I'm not even going to claim I know the facts since I don't, but the cartoons are of children in sexual situations or poses.

Take furries as a counter example. I doubt most furries actually want to fuck dogs because the actual representation of a furry doesn't exist. Fox McCloud doesn't actually look like a fox, he is a fox person that doesn't exist. So whether it is some mental fetish heavily associated with a set of imagery, or if the actual image of anthropomorphic animals is what they're attracted too, it is different enough from reality that I doubt a furry wants to fuck a goat (which is why furries fuck each other in fursuits). But loli (aside from the anime heads) looks pretty damn close to children, so I wouldn't be surprised if people into loli are essentially attracted to children.

>>2571457
>>2571457
I'm serious.

It's's the same way being a racist, or wanting to kill people, or rob someone isn't wrong.

The moment you act on those things is the moment things is when mortality and the law comes into play.

A pedophile that knows he's a monster and tried his hardest to stay away from children and actual child pornography is no worse than a normal man.

It's not illegal to think a certain way.

>>2571482
>trannies
>look like women
>act like women
>dress like women
¿¿¿¿¿

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>>2571473
>childrens bodies
They are children. This is how children look. How delusional are you? Do you have any knowledge at all of the human form? Do you paint at all?

For fuck's sake even some of anime he makes art for the characters are children in the anime, officially.

But hey... just keep on being a faggot pedo your entire life and keep wondering why no one in your family ever speaks to or of you.

>>2571468
Men are naturally attracted to younger women, which is why civilized countries have reasonable age of consent and "teen" is in the top researched tags of all normie porn sites, but at least americans have freedom right :^)

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>>2554389
>>2554399

>>2571486

Don't worry about it dude, it's fine if you like loli, or anyone else. I even know someone who would probably be called an SJW who thinks it's pretty admirable if a pedo can refrain from acting on their pedophilia.

Being a pedo would really suck desu. Probably one of the most hated groups, even when they aren't active.

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>>2571497
>keep on being a faggot pedo your entire life and keep wondering why no one in your family ever speaks to or of you.

>>2571492
>look like women
no, they don't

Stop assuming I think trannies are women or men. If you were born with a dick, your a man. Doesn't matter if you cut it off or hide it. Your face is manly, your structure is of a man and nothing will change that.

Just like you're a pedophile. No matter your excuse in the end you are sexually aroused by a child. Just like a tranny, stop trying to fool yourself into thinking otherwise.

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>>2571497

>>2571513
>>2571507
>I have no argument so I'll use a meme word I don't have any clue what it actually means.

>>2571497
>children bodies, except for the actual teenage proportions, exaggerated anatomy and most importantly the fucking head and face
it's gonna be alright anon

>>2571502
How the fuck is it admirable to not fuck a child?

Is this how low your standards have fallen?

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>>2571497
>pedo pedo pedo
Oh, this is getting serious now. We have to get out of here before he says the n-word.

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>>2571510
>No matter your excuse in the end you are sexually aroused by a child

When will you stop implying/projecting yourself onto others?


>>2571482

>look like children
If children have big fucking anime eyes, six head bodies, simplified anatomy and are artistically stylized... then YES, loli drawings look like fucking children.

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>>2571516

>>2571498
To add to this.

Teen is a recent construct of society. Not until around the industrial revolution did the idea of "teen" start to take hold. Before that there were only adults and children. And the age someone became an an adult was much lower than today's world

>>2571521
>teenage proportions
yeah, maybe 13.
>big head means it's just anime!
huuurrdurrrrr You've gone full retard.

This thread is... it's why I hate people. You people are fucking delusional, stupid child fuckers and that's all there is to it. Think of all the rational you want but you still sit there and jerk off to little girls.

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>>2571485
loli (aside from the anime heads)
you mean the most important part?
It's pretty common knowledge now that anime head make ANYTHING attractive, that's why monster girls exist

>>2571537
Yeah, thanks for the input, retard. You can fuck off now.

>>2571525
>comparing being called a nigger to a pedo
Are you going to have pedo marches and fight for pedo rights?

Did you seriously just compare you wanting to fuck a child to racism?

You have to be the most retarded person in the world, congrats man. You've done it.

>>2571522
Do you think a pedophile wants to be a pedophile?

It's mental illness, they're born that way.

This is going to be a controversial opinion, but pedos are the same as gays. Both caused by mental illness

>>2571537
>big head means it's just anime!
look >>2571542
>13
thats legal in japan :^)

>>2571522

Pedos have got sexual urges for kids. It's pretty common for people to do retarded shit because they're blinded by sexual urges. Pedos just happen to have the rapiest fetish. Everybody has to learn how to overcome their dumb sexual urges at some point in life, but most normal people make their dumb mistakes in high school or their 20s, and then they chill out. Pedos can't afford to make the same mistakes, they have to have a hold on their lizard brain as soon as they reach young adulthood. I wouldn't say it is "admirable" like some other accomplishments. I'm just saying a pedo that doesn't do something stupid when they're at peak horny and have the least amount of life experience or restraint is at least a good person.

>>2559802
it's from blue submarine number 9 or some shit, the cigarette was probably soggy and redried iduno

>>2571533
uhhhhhh

Ok muhammad. Go fuck your little 9 year old wife.

Want to know what else has changed in this few hundred years? Science, medicine, and psychology. Everything we have learned about the development of the human mind and it's capabilities during aging all support that children are not ready for sexual relations. Not even close to being ready. Even after puberty, just because a girl can get pregnant doesn't mean she is ready. Physically and emotionally.

>>2571548
Doesn't matter if they want to or not. They are. Faggots in here are incredibly delusional.

>>2571544
>wah I want to look at child porn but people are mean to me

>>2571553
No, it isn't.

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>>2553027
Wow
The guy in this thread sure is mad

>>2571537
>stupid child fuckers and that's all there is to it.
>you still sit there and jerk off to little girls

>L-look everyone! You are disgusting faggots because you jerk to these drawings, b-but I'm not. That must mean I'm better than you! hahaha!

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>>2571545
You can't even comprehend three words. That's wonderful. >>2571557
>>2571559
And how, may I ask, do you impregnate drawings? Do you have to marry it first or is it okay if you have premarital sex?

>>2571557
We're not talking about the kid here. We're talking about the pedophile. The pedophile is born being sexually attracted to kids. That's it. Why would anybody chose to be a pedophile in this society if they're so hated? That's because they didn't choose. They were born that way.

The only difference between a pedophile and a gay man is that another gay man can consent while a child can not.

>>2571557
>Everything we have learned about the development of the human mind and it's capabilities during aging all support that children are not ready for sexual relations.

That's why I don't fuck childrens, thank you.

>>2571570
Christ.

You get off to the idea of a child's body. That's all there is to it.

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>>2571581
Okay, so a drawing is a real person, then? So if I draw a fictional character... and rip the paper apart... that's murder isn't it? Oh dear. I've murdered dozens of people. I've crumbled the paper too. That's basically mauling people to death.

>>2571581
>You get off to the idea of a child's body.

As if there aren't more disgusting shit people gets off to, an you seem to not give a flying fuck.

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What the fuck is going on in this thread?

I come back after a week and then I see this shit. I thought this was going to be a comfy Murata thread.

>>2571594
Thank the same niggers that fucked up the Porn threads with their feelings.

>>2571581
>get off to the idea of a child's body. T
You are reading shit completely wrong just to fit your delusions. Just because they "aren't real" doesn't change the fact they look like children you dumb fuck. Why do you not understand that concept at all? If the thing that sexually arouses you looks like a child, acts like a child, and is a visual representation of a child...

pedophile
a person who is sexually attracted to children.

It doesn't say "a person that fuck's a child" it says is attracted to a child. You are attracted to images depicting children. It doesn't matter if they are real or not. The fact is the image of a child is what you are aroused by.

>>2571586
>people do worse! So it's ok right?

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>>2571607
>if i keep saying it, it's true.

>>2571607
Take it to /pol/ or something you absolute autist.

This is /ic/, not liking the arts subject matter doesn't make it any less relevant to the board. Retardedly discussing whether liking literal drawings can make you a pedo is not what the board is for.

>>2571607
People get attracted to depictions of animals, doesn't matter if they're real or not, they're zoophilic and will want to fuck a real dog. Amirite?

>>2571621
He literally can't understand that people who like a style of drawing might not actually want to fuck real kids. Don't expect reason from him.

This whole shitfest is off-topic anyway though, just ignore him.

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>>2571607
>this guy is still at it
Weow

>>2571618
>I'm not a pedo, I'm just an EDGY ARTIST
>>2571610
>If I keep saying I'm not a pedo even though I get off to children they will believe me!
>>2571621
Are you claiming furries are perfectly fine? This... this the level of delusion you are at.

Because, again, there is a difference between liking Disney's Robin Hood and the shit you find on Furaffinity.

>>2571627
>jerks off to images of sexualied children
Come on guys I'm totally not a pedo. I just like their tight little hairless bodies. It's about THE ART.

>>2571640
I framed that wrong

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>>2571634
>>2571641
This is starting feel like self-hatred to me.

>>2571641
>Tfw he's finally coming out of the closet and realizing that the pictures made him insecure because he was an actual pedo all along
you did good anon, you made a great step forward, soon you'll be able to accept yourself

>>2571641
You'd have a point if they weren't fucking drawings. You're starting to sound as if you have some dark things you're trying to repress though. You may not be able to trust that you can differentiate but normal human beings can.