Alternative Art/Stylization General

>>2495606
sauce?

>>2495709
Realalphonse aka alphonse aka white datura

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>>2495712
thanks, he's amazing

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Repostin'

>>2495712
He's the best lolicon in the world

>>2495775
I'm not even sexually aroused, the only boner I get from his lolis is from my jealousy of his skills.

>>2495769
The head is only vaguely horse-like, but I still love this piece.

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>>2495728
2015
vs
2008

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>>2495769
very nice, guy. did you ever consider adding cast shadow under?

>>2495827
Thanks! And ah, damn, I should've. I already flattened it though

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>>2495769
i'll bite, gallery?

>>2495769
Good, now draw what's under those clothes. I'm very curious how that body actually looks.

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>>2495834
I'm mellowhen on fa, I posted my tumblr last thread but it's got like 2 posts

>>2495843
Already did before I drew her outfit, pic related

>>2495853
>mellowhen
https://www.furaffinity.net/view/19610567/

CUTE, you just might have the potential

>>2495856
Thanks! I had a lot of fun painting that one

I already have a work contract with a studio currently, if that's what you mean?

>>2495823
I love the foreshortening of the torso on the left girl, very nice

>>2495871
Cool, eyes remind me of Katanagatari.

>>2495853
Impressive. That's how I was imagining the body to look.

>>2495882
How dare you dodge my reply.

>>2495886
I-I'm sorry

>>2495882
Cute, what's going on with her boobs though?
Also, you tend to make the forearms kind of long compared to the upper arms.
and mice don't work well on monsters.

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>>2495909
hm, I guess I got lazy with construction and went for things pleasing to the eye, like showing volume with the chest instead of plotting it out properly. Thanks, anon.

someone in the other thread >>2493789 meantioned painting studies, I don't know exactly what that means.

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>>2495882
my 2 cents

>>2496329
I agree with most except the calves. That is clearly a stylistic choice he made and you can see the slight curve to indicate where it would be if not simplified.

>>2496346
i disagree

>>2496349
You can disagree with the choice. But you can't say there's no calves when it's clearly shown.

>>2496357
I agree that a line is present that is meant to implicate calves, but i stand by my opinion that the artist poorly conveyed what they intended instead of leaving the line as it is as an intentional stylistic choice. There's a difference between warped and stylized anatomy and poor anatomy resulting from a lack of fundamentals.There is a style present in anon's drawing but it is also unarguably rife with errors.

>>2496360
I'd say before talking about other people's legitimate stylistic choices you should learn to apply fundamentals to your red lines.

Whether or not I agree with the fact there are plenty of things that need fixing, your post just makes you come off as a typical faggot who feels the need to prove himself right by shouting fundamentals.

>>2496369
not that guy but why do u feel like someone giving their 2 cents is some typical faggot

he's entitled to his opinion, just because it's different from yours doesn't mean he's a "typical faggot"

truthfully, ur the only one that comes off as a faggot here desu

>>2496369
but anon im not even the guy who redlined anons picture..

typical faggot, huh? kinda jumped the gun on that one

>>2496369
you're wrong.
and ironically you're the one who's screaming fundamentals at him right now.
what >>2495882 drew wasn't a calf nor does it really represent a calf.

though to your point, >>2496329 drew the legs thicker than the other guy intended.

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how did I anatomy

>>2496486
You didnt

>>2496489
Post your work.

>>2496486
>>2496489
>>2496491
Fantastic job, guys. You make /ic/ proud.

>>2496285
Just gather some small objects, (mugs, fruit, things that don't have an overwhelming amount of detail), set them on a solid color cloth of some kind, and light it with a lamp or window. Then set up with your painting tools of choice and copy what you see.

For beginners, it's generally helpful to limit your pallete at first too, to primary colors and a deep brown.

>>2496489
alright serious question, how do I draw correct poses/anatomy
I just fuck up every time I think I did it ok

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>>2496532

This guy but you probably already knew that and don't want to actually nut up and study

>>2496486
Looks like you tried really hard to get the head and upper torso right, then gave up and drew whatever for the rest.

Don't give up anon. I believe in you!

>>2496506
Post your work smartass
:)

>>2496532
Look at pictures of people doing the pose you want to draw and study them and transfer the knowledge onto your image

>>2496619

ayy lmao

>>2496619
it looks nice but the subject is really, really trite imo

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>>2495606
Woo boy, learning to draw really is fun, and it at least gives a creative outlet, but having to deal with producing shit scribbles early on can really sap one's strength.

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>>2496931

Do it long enough and at a point your scribbles will look slightly less shitty, until you actually like your work.

>>2496619
The thumbnail looks nice.

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Finished since my last post here

>>2497004
At first glance I thought this was Brian peppers alt art

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trying to lock down a style for an easy to draw kinda comic.
is keeping things black and white with basic texture still cool?

>>2497034

you can make anything cool as long as you can into panel layout and design

>>2497034
I like it muchly

>>2495606
What kind of brushes/settings are used for this style of painting in PS?

>>2497030
So you're saying it doesn't look right?

>>2495606
Was this made by someone from here?

>>2496506
>changing the subject

>>2497669
literally the first 5 posts you fucking moron. Read.

>>2496931

>attempting to build a house with no foundation

>>2497669
original artist here ask me anything

>>2497739
how many dicks did you suck

>>2497735
Calm down you autistic retard

>>2497004
reminds of that one skittle commercial where they made a skittle portrait of that one singer dude

>>2497850
You have to show the pectoral muscles pulling from the humorous in that position and remember that the breasts rest ontop of these chest muscles and are greatly affected by the same pull from the humorous.

>>2497853
Thanks!

>>2497850
Besides the fact the breasts are already put too high on the body, they looks like they're being pulled. Take in account gravity.

>>2497951
I want them to look as pretty as possible, if she makes flowers sprout through the concrete, she certainly can make the tits fly.
Really i believe this is the ase where aesthetics are more important than common sense and reality.
I want those tits to make everyone drool by looking at them.

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>>2497955
Except it really just looks weird here. You at least really need to fix their position.

And natural looking breasts are the hottest.

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>>2497955
>muh style

You're wrong and you will fail to show the aesthetics of the female form. You're looking for an excuse to not draw breasts properly and a reason to half ass them. Stop being lazy and learn how to convey form and shape.

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>>2497955
>Really i believe this is the ase where aesthetics are more important than common sense and reality.
It most definitely is not, especially when "boobs out arms up" is such a thing in porn.

You'll just make the tits looks like concrete when they're supposed to be soft and malleable. The softness is part of what make them appealing. Learn how gravity and the pull of muscles affects their shape. Use references. Observe boobs before you draw boobs.

>>2497966
>>2497964
literally 3d pd.
This is why anime was invented in the first place.

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>>2497970
Your weebshit is derived from life it still follows the same laws and principles of form and shape despite the simplicity you stupid cunt.

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>>2497979
Indeed, in anime only the faces are stylized.

Everything else in the luscious naked bodies is traced from real nude children.

>>2497983
>Indeed, in anime only the faces are stylized.

Try tracing a real world figure and slapping on a moe blob face and come back and tell me only the faces are stylized.

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>>2497979
I'm pretty certain it's purpose is to escape from reality and represent more beautiful, amazing and interesting women than the real ones.

>>2497986
You are merely describing a type of style that deviates from life except you forgot the part that it does not deviate away from the fundamentals.

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>>2497989
>fundamentals
I would never defend bad perspective, bad volume bad colors poor hands etc.
My point is that i'm not trying to represent a real woman, i represent an elongated woman with tiny ribcage titties that are supposed to look like appetizing cakes or firm jello that reacts to gravity to a certain degree with silluette formed by lines close to Archimedes curves because reasons. My target is a bit different from reality.

And just so there's no misunderstanding, it's not like i'm trying to reject all criticue, but i would love to draw jello tits, not soft water baloons.
Like furries don't draw realistic animal heads.

>>2497964
When I look at that picture, all I can see are the imperfections that would stick out if I tried to use that as a reference.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the picture or the girl, considering it's a photo, but I've noticed that there are a lot of things that don't translate well into drawn art, especially when stylized.

In this particular picture, is the muscle under her (from our perspective) right arm, and the hidden deltoid over her left arm. The curve where her rib cage ends on the right side and the hip sticking out would also look a bit iffy if drawn.
As a result of this, I often have a lot of trouble finding pictures that I can use for reference. Granted, it's not that big of a problem if you simply use it as a guide, rather than slavishly copying it, but it's still an issue.
I guess avoiding these issues is also part of what separates a good photographer from a bad one.

>>2498004
Why would you do that? Depicting anything other than exact, literal reality is tantamount to lying, and lying is a sin that will get you in Hell.

You will now explain yourself and the explanation better be good.

>>2498004
Nice choice of picture! Looks like you're exactly copying the titties from it but very poorly!

>>2497850
fucking reifag let go. Your waifu is shit

>>2498004
I am going to steal your oc just to spite you, faggot

>>2498009
because i want better than real.
>>2498010
I absolutely love this and tits like this.
While i didn't look at it for a while already i just fucking appreciate this shape endlessly, the way it flows and shit i'm trying to recreate it unconsciously.
Things like this define my idea of perfect, i want to make more of that, that's why started drawing to begin with.

>>2497955
Well, you failed. Seen those weird fetish pictures where they tie down the base of the breasts, so that they look like balloons that are about to pop? That's what it looks like. It's not aesthetically pleasing to look at. It just looks poorly drawn.

>>2498091
its kind of hard to understand what's going on at first glance

other than that I think it looks neat

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>>2495606
hi

are my facial proportions off in this drawing? or does it look fine?

I fanangled with the jawline too much and I think I screwed up the 3d form of the drawing...

>>2498164
Forget that word "Proportions" it is not a thing.
Only retards use it as argument agains artists better than themselves without any better option.
The best dont give a shit about proportions not one bit as long as it looks good.
And yes, 3d form is actually the problem with your drawing and what you should care about.

>>2498174
hmm well, I definitely agree that if you're an expert artist you can definitely get away with screwing with proportions and still make an excellent drawing.
but I think when you're still learning I think proportions are still an important thing to learn and practice. you have to know the rules in order to break them, I guess.

anyways though, thanks for the feedback. guess I'll scrap it and move on with my practicing

>>2498174
Proportion is a thing. Maybe you a misinterpreting the word. Think of it as "in proportion" or is the size appropriate.

Like hulks over-sized hands and bigger torso those are still in proportionately appropriate for the style.

If one hand was regular sized and the other was large when the desire is for it to be of identical size than it is proportionately incorrect.

Artist do care about this, placing objects in proportion on different 3D planes affect aesthetics, how believable the drawing is, the style/character.

You should understand the word "Proportions'

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>>2498184
Well you normally dont make arms longer than legs, but fuck i often see great works with hips being almost as long as torso and lower legs being longer than upper legs, and the best ones manage to make it look just fucking good.

There is some sort of "proportions" in making everything reasonable related to the other parts, but you just will do that naturally, dont bother keeping that in mind, as long it looks good it's good.

But there's a surprising load of retards out there that would try and make an argument like "your body isn't 6 heads long, you're out of textbook proportions you fucked up" that is just fucking stupid.

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I have trouble finding a good brush to use in CS6 for making lineart. Anyone have any I can download

>>2498195
just use the standard circle brush

if you're good at drawing then you should be able to use the standard circle brush just fine. if you're not good, downloading another brush won't help you

>>2498195
1 Lazy nezumi
Really? it's not cheating, you just fucking need to stabilize pressure and smooth movement a bit.
2 get any set of brushes by any artist, the thing is that default PS brushes are unfit for drawing o for any application ever.
I just got myself a set by Dan lu Visi and it just werks (bon't forget to remove default ones outta the panel)

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For a comic I'm making. First page test.

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I think I definitely need to study lighting and cloth better and fix the shadows/highlights on this, but could I get some general feedback? I did this from imagination but I'm used to doing studies so not feeling too confident.

>>2498232
nigga draw a straight line

>>2498284
practice drawing boxes in 3d
and this is IMPORTANT: practice drawing boxes in 3d with other shapes attached to the box, draw the complex shape from another angle and keep it connected properly

>>2498288
So you're saying I should go back to construction? Damn. Thanks though.
Is any particular part of him off? Or just everything?

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can any1 translate

>>2498319

- Add background
- Add person
- Darken person. Shade
- Add tint
- Add gradient
- Add highlights

>>2498091
escalation ramp of your feet you filthy tracer.

>>2498334
post art or stop posting at all jesus christ

>>2498343
Please don't tell him to post his art it's such a fucking eyesore.

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>>2498343
just for you, proof i'm mediocre/ can't render.

but at least I have the ̶l̶i̶g̶a̶m̶e̶m̶e̶ foots escalation ramp in my drawings

>>2498350
thank you for your support

>>2498355
out of all the images you could have cherrypicked, you choose this.

This is the guy i see posting his opinions about other peoples art.
why do you come here? do you think what youre doing on 4chan is socializing?

>>2498367
I'm payed.

>>2498378
but anon, posting on 4chan isnt on your chore list

>>2498355
>foots escalation ramp

What?

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>>2498519

>>2498523
This has given me an epiphany.

>>2498019
Literally all you have to do is overlay that picture over your picture and you will see where you fucked up.

>>2498004
The difference between that picture and your drawing is Rei is standing so gravity is pulling her breasts down. Your girl looks like she's laying on her back so her breasts wouldn't be in the same shape as these. If it's a case of aesthetics I can promise you adding proper weight to the breasts would be more aesthetically pleasing. People are trained to look for shapes and curves that indicate certain things in reality and the goal of drawing is to translate those visual cues and exaggerate them. When they're wrong they immediately go into uncanny valley and become unappealing. You may want to really consider the fact so many people are telling you it looks off.

>>2495728
hey I live there, I recognize that hill

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>>2498091
>>2498096
> its kind of hard to understand what's going on at first glance

I guess that's too be expected for this kind of drawing, the colored version don't have this problem anyway.

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>>2497955
>>I want them to look as pretty as possible
Try referencing the show rather than just taking tits from a standing pose and pasting them onto a lying down pose.
>>Really i believe this is the ase where aesthetics are more important
Try referencing the show rather than just taking tits from a standing pose and pasting them onto a lying down pose.

You're not fooling anyone. It took me a few seconds to find a similar pose to your picture, from the ACTUAL show, where clearly they knew that achieving something that looked "pretty" or had good "aesthetics" meant you know, portraying something similar to what tits actually do when someone is lying down...not just looking at a picture of someone standing up and saying "Ooo I like how that looks! I'll just copy it onto a different pose and no one will ever notice!".

Redraw the tits. It's that simple.

>>2498629
Trust me, it does.

>>2498636
> trust me

How about no

>>2498367

Ignore this guy and stop giving him attention; that's all he wants.

>>2498629
I disagree. I was just scrolling down /ic/ and I saw this picture and it took me a second or two to figure out what's going on.

>>2498638
I literally have no idea what's going on. The tits of the two girls at the sides are resting on the thighs of the girl in the middle? What? But they don't have lower bodies of their own? What?
She's squatting and pointing at me with an open palm? What? She's wearing pants but I can see her arsehole? What?

Aside from all these questions the composition doesn't even look good

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>>2498004
> titties that are supposed to look like appetizing cakes or firm jello

Well, that's fine if that's what you are into, but then don't say you are doing it because of aestheetics. The vast majority of people consider floaty plastic tits the opposite of aesthetic, including weebs and actual japanese animators.

>>2498647
>some dude blabbing about something he doesn't know and then proceeds to post random image from book on balance

/ic/ needs to purge

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>>2498634
But your picture defends my point.
Look at it and at >>2497966 >>2497960

This is pretty much what i'm trying to do, slightly squished, slightly flowing to the side but still firm shapes that don't look like malnutritioned saggy tits of african granny.

>>2498647
Your picture represents small firm tits that don't follow gravity too much.
which is what i was about.

>>2498649
Regardless what that tutorial is actually about, it also shows how the breasts follow the pull of the ribcage and gravity, you gigantic retard.

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Here reference for you autismal purists.
We gotta keep it real, right?
Here some real realistic gravity tits for you

>>2498654
The bigger the tits, the weirder they look if they don't follow gravity. Take a look at decent doujin artists or something instead of awkward 90s anime illustrations if you want to see how japanese artists actually draw breasts for anime aesthetics. When they draw big tits, they tend to exaggerate the pull of gravity even more than it is in real life, not less.

>>2498655
>regardless what the tutorial is about
That's where you're wrong. Ending your post calling me a retard does not save you grace from the fact you don't know what you're talking about.

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>>2498656
You are dumb as a brick.

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>>2498651
This is your problem. A misplaced nipple. When you put it far towards the side like that it creates the impression the breast should be sagging more to the side, when it doesn't.

>>2498662
I was talking about the pull of gravity on breasts, how weird and ugly they look when they are floating plastic and how most good japanese artists don't draw them like that either. To show that point, I posted an image of a japanese artist I found in my ref folder that shows moderate / smaller sized breasts following the pull of gravity and stretching over the ribcage. Do you have brain damage or something?

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>>2498657
>decent doujin artists instead of awkward 90s anime illustrations
Yeah, because tastes are objective and universal. Like your tastes are objectively better than tastes of many famous artists like Masamune Shirow or others who like to make flying tits for better looks.

If by decent doujin you mean works in recent style where girls look like bloated bags of pus with every volume being so soft and flowing and melting it makes me imagine how their skin would fall of their bones under it's own weight. I don't enjoy that style.

>>2498666

You're a pretend know-it-all and then you go find some random image in your probably over 100 gb ref folder because you spend more time gathering refs to prove your non-existent point on something you don't know about because you don't draw and when proven wrong you end your posts with a lame insult on someones intelligence due to the lack of yours.

Do yourself a flavor and stop shitting up the thread.

>>2498669
>Like your tastes are objectively better than tastes of many famous artists like Masamune Shirow or others who like to make flying tits for better looks.

Does the pic you posted seriously look aesthetically pleasing to you?

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>>2498672
Too big for my taste.
But it makes me imagine large breasts that are not fucking waterbags, it's big tits that would feel like small youthful tits to the touch. I want to do that in my picture but a bit smaller.

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>>2495606
could I have some feedback on this? does it look ok, awesome, or shitty? from a WIP

>>2498679
It is almost pretty, except you made the face just a bit too narrow and flat, or like you didn't wrap wacial features aroung the shape enough.

>>2498684
>didn't wrap facial features around the shape enough
hmm I think this is my problem

I can usually construct a head in 3d form pretty nicely, and consistently, but then I always struggle when I add the eyes/nose/mouth to the head. mostly the eyes, they're either flat, or just look wonky. I guess I just don't completely understand the structure of the eyes, and have just been copying what I see from other artists

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>>2498687
Find good art that you really like and see how they do it.
They often exaggerate distortions and volumes.

>Virgin nerds talk about the female body

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>>2498679

>>2498702
/ic/ seems to be mostly grills

>>2498702
>it's impossible to know anything about the female body unless you've fucked

congrats on never making it
(having sex is not making it by the way laughinggirls.jpg)

>>2498702

Life drawing

>>2497034
blog? that style makes me wet

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how does the face look now? did I make it better or worse?

>>2498704
fug, nice. thanks for the redline.
your drawing looks so much more organic and less stiff, I'm jelly. definitely going to change my hat so its more like yours later

>>2498688
>they often exaggerate distortions and volumes
hmmm that might just be the thing! I'll have to experiment with that more. usually I always tried to avoid doing that because I was afraid it would make it look weird

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>>2498725
ree the longer I look at the nose, the weirder it looks

less-defined nose version

>>2498629
I dont think its a very strong compositional and design choice when mid girl has a small and forshrotened to hell body to fit her entire body into the picture while the other 2 has no lower bodies and only their hands.

thats your creative decision though, objectively i dont think theres much wrong but its just a very strange lay out

>>2498669
Those are like silicone tits

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>>2498737
Those are like imaginary tits of imaginary women created by a master who spent his entire life mastering his skills of creating beauty.

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>>2498725
>>2498727
Dont forget nose ridge and brow-forehead volumes of the skull.
They often are invisible, unoutlined, unshaded, but actually do cover the eye.
Not always though.

We're beyond being rational and objective when it comes to animu faces, fing what you realy trealy fucking love and learn from it.

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>>2498744
i can't stop you from liking fake balloon tits but there are more interesting ways of drawing tits than just big round balloon shapes

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>>2498733
> and forshrotened to hell body to fit her entire body into the picture

Really? If it was a traditional drawing I would understand why you'd talk about "fit into the picture", but considering the unusual ratio of it, you really think I was "limited" to it? That's just the pose I wanted to do, the picture size was set after.

> while the other 2 has no lower bodies and only their hands.

That's part of the characters, pic related.

>>2498779
the characters without lower bodies make more sense then, but the middle character still looks kinda small and overall its a bit too symmetrical for my taste and doesn't have enough negative space

again, these are just my opinions on the composition of the piece and is not more or less valid than yours

>>2498744
I can't be the only weirdo here who adores saggy tits like these. sauce?

>>2498798
google search saggy tits.
and dun worry, it's perfectly normal as adoring granny or obese or necrophilia.

this is not the porn thread

>>2498651
>>But your picture defends my point.
No it doesn't. The tits in your drawing look completely different to not only the gif but also those other two you mentioned.

Get your eyes checked anon.
They don't look "slightly squished" at all. They look like super firm tits attached to the front with no gravity applied.

This anon made a good start:
>>2498664

>>2498656
Ignoring your bullshit, It's not even about being purist though. It's about shit looking like they obviously took reference from a standing pose, for a lying down pose.

It's blatant as fuck, regardless of muh style.

>>2498744
*imaginary silicone tits

>>2498895

Looks like she is being crushed steadily. What's with the smoke?

>>2496329
Here's my 10 cents, my 2 cents is free
A nuisance, who sent, You sent for me?

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>>2495823
compsition and values are really bothering me, will probably fix them thru the week

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>>2498996
the bigger girl has chubby upper body, heavy lifter upper legs and bricks for lower legs.
I think you generally oversimplify shapes of lower legs or maybe you add thickness there where actually should be no to make them look stronger but yup, your girls in many of your works have fucking bricks for lower legs and you don't hide it behind scenery.

Just think about it, the lower leg is a massive bone in the front, a very large muscule fehind it and the rest are fucking toe flexers, toe extenders, foot turners that aren't very powerful ever, have you ever seen anyone working out to develop powerful toes and getting massive fucking toe flexers?

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>>2498996
Here are some powerful calves for you, i think yours arent thick enough at the top and not small enough at bottom.

this is honestly the worst this general has been in a long time

>>2499017
Do you have nothing better to do than type out random posts?

>>2498895
>>2498895
im sorry but this looks like a real cluster fuck.

her right leg is way too upright to be in a sitting position

her left calf and the way it connects to her thigh looks like her thigh got crushed by the chair or something, theres not enough info that depicts the legs weight being pushed against the chair. her left foot is also really small.

tits do not look 3d, prob because of the lighting giving it a weird shape

>ITT people who ask for critique but really want asspats and blog?

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>putting me in charge of foreshortening and perspective

Please help me out senpai, it looks awful.

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something is wrong with this cudgel
I want the bottom to sit flat in-between or semi in-front of the feet

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>>2499107
Something like this?

>>2498636
>>2498643
Maybe you guys just don't look at enough hentai. I could easily depict what was going on in the picture.

>>2498629
noice

>>2499126
she looks pretty stumpy like that

>>2499126

>>2498523
dropped my trip because accidental incog

>>2498195
Get sai. It's leaps and bounds ahead of photosho when it comes to lineart.

>>2498232
It fails from a fundamental standpoint, because the characters look like cardboard cutouts, and everything looks like it's on the same plain.
It fails on a stylistic level, because the drawing is cluttered and reads poorly, and things are over stylized to the point of being unidentifiable to their real world counterparts.

>>2499005
>>2499010
Thanks, anon. I'll look more into calves and thanks especially for the reference. I'll try to make her upper legs slimmer if that works too.

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Is this pure shit? Help me please, I think the torso looks a bit off.

>>2499296
Dude that's cool as fuck, is there supposed to a specific object in focus though? I can't tell.

>>2499330
I think the area her breasts reside is too thin. It's like you're trying to pack a lot in there in such a small space

>>2495606
>in between their studies

None of you faggots do studies, shut up.

>>2499359
neither do you.

>>2499359
Please stop projecting, you're scaring the children

>>2499353
>>2499358
4chan is stupid like that, it doesn't keep the orientation.

>>2499380
I thought it was the phone.

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Tbh I dont know if this belongs in this thread or not, but I just wanted some crits and any infographs or info on how to ink like the comic book inkers.

>>2498749
goddammit Murata's art is ridiculously sexy.

>>2499511
but some underpaid nip at madhouse drew that

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>>2499496
not sure if this checks but here you go anon

>>2495882
BLOG NEVER
Also what brushes are you using? They look great

>>>/a/140599697

AYY HOL UP
ARE YOU SAYIN
YOU BE SAYIN
/a/ DRAWTHREADS ARE SHIT?

seriously tho you anime fags will learn much more and improve if you fuck off to /a/ drawthreads fulfilling reqs

>>2498008
Shirow can heavily stylize a woman with all the "imperfect" underlying structure and make her look great. Why can't you?

>>2499690
/a/ here, please dont.

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>>2495606
This is the most blatantly fanservice character I've seen this year, and I'm loving it.

>>2495882
Why does this post got so many hugbox replies?

>>2499856
The only hugbox replies were the defense of calf stylization, which personally I think is correct. It could be done better, but the way the redline suggested it was stupid.

>>2497964
Now I need to fap
Why can't I just draw

>>2499713
Also Shirow can enjoy flying anti-gravity tits sometimes and nobody's gonna be a dick about it.

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>>2499713
Also there's nothing imperfect about his women.
They are obviously his idea of pefect, their waist are smaller than their head or one hip, their tits fly upwards against gravity and if anyone had balls to tell him "Thats not how tits work in reality" i bet he would say something like "Well then fuck your reality".

The point is you're total dicks.

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>>2499894
Here are some tits going upwards because fuck you.
And that's why your art is forever going to be branded "Western"

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Working on this for now

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>>2499678
Eh, maybe soon.

I mainly use this one for monochrome stuff.

>>2499894
>>2499901
You're wrong that he ignored gravity and physics. Your drawing is wrong and it looks terrible. Since you won't listen to advice your drawings will continue to look terrible. There will be people who eat it up cuz lel boobz and you will become the Dobson of animu porn only he still draws better. Good luck with life.

>>2499901
The tits aren't flying upwards because fuck you but because she's literally jumping into the air.

Are you actually retarded?

>>2499901
Those nigs are really well drawn lmao

>>2499087
P-please respond.

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>>2500267
for u

>>2499856
Some people are like that, anon.

>>2498996
I like your giant loli drawings and whatnot but this one looks more out of place than the other ones. It doesnt look like two giant girls, it looks like they're on a set in a movie or something.

>>2498624
>i recognize that mound

Reported to the cops

>>2499856
/a/ fanboys

>>2500313
More like samefagging for attention.

So apparently once upon a time ago I know this guy, he's from chile and i really fucking hate that stupid faggot.

Until recently i found his tumblr and he didnt start doing commissions early this feb, weird considering his tumblr has been up fro 3 years and got like thousands of followers. Also his prices are quite decent for his skills. I still hate stupid ass fag but as much as i hate him, he's pretty honest and he does draw for free and for the purpose to improve.

Not unlike some of the people i've met recently on 4chan that does the most disgusting of things.

>>2500348
cool story bro

>>2495882
You are Boa from /a/ if i'm not mistaken.
Can you share your links? I need to have it.

>>2500287
Look at references or use a 3d model, its hard to determine the angle and harshness of the foreshortening without being the artist. Looking at visually similar images would be your best bet

>>2500348
Link it

>>2499087
first you gotta ask yourself what's the point of the image? why is he sitting like that with one leg out?

>>2499912
The way she interacts with that thing is really wonky

its hard to explain but i dont find the pose to be pratical or compositionally strong. it looks like shes walking away and a giant thing fell behind her so she turned around to look, or shes holding it in the most contrived way ever

>>2500504
Nah. His tumblr never said anything about being from 4chan or anything 4chan related.
I hate that fag but i'm not gonna dox him. Plus, he worked his ass off to get there through honest means. I give him pointers for that.

I need to catalog all of the scamming shitheads here tho. I heard close up to $100k has been spent on commissioning these creatures.

>>2500502
Alright.

>>2500515
He's about to make you clean his dirty foot with your tongue.

>>2500524
then why is his head looking and facing a different direction?

>>2500526
Nice, will fix. Thanls a ton, anon, what a stupid mistake.

>>2499912
The perspective of the girl is really off from what I can tell. Too lazy to map it out but maybe some other anon can.

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Drawing some robo-legs.

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the angle is tripping me up

>>2499912
i tried drawing the same scene and it's pretty hard. but i think the key is to have a horizon line. and you have to make it so that you look up at everything that is above the horizon line, even the object in front.
right now that's definitely one thing you're not doing. you're looking at the cross as if you're looking at it straight from the front.

this is all assuming the object in front is a lot smaller than the character.

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>>2499894
God every time I see Shirow art now I'm going to think about all the people bitching about Scarjo playing Motoko. It's porn people and the Japanese want Scarjo because she's pornier than Rinko Kikuchi

>>2499912
Great. Why don't you finalize your sketch before we redline it. Right now we have no idea what's going on or anything to critique due to the sketchiness.
Also we'd be happy to see you finish this work here.

>>2500586
>gits
This looks more like tank police

>>2500626
you keep posting these, and everytime its this weird, incomprehensible mess of scribbles

y u do dis

>>2499894
>>2499901

There's something fucking awful with this artist's faces and colours that makes it completely unfappable

>>2500631
i'm sorry

>>2500518
I am just curious what his work looks like, post a picture if you dont want to expose his identity?

>>2500589
Bullshit, there's plenty to criticize about the perspective and it has already be done. If you can't even see that refrain from posting advice. Finalizing a sketch with wrong perspective is polishing a turd. It's not even "sketchy", you can even tell some of the details on the accessories. Really this post is so stupid my head hurts. Please stop posting forever.

>>2500795
who cares
my beef is with him i dont want that shit to spread out so your little syndicate ring target him for being a better human being than you scumbags.
you faggots know exactly who i am. target me instead.
im active in /v/ drawthreads and on /a/ drawthreads when the weekend comes close.

>>2500806
hey boa bro,
wheres your blog i want to follow you and put you in my list.
Im bored watching the /a/ drawthreads so you'll show up

>>2500826
jeez ok dude

>>2500601
>>2500586

yeah... it's gits tho.
You need porn to sell mangas to the sexually repressed mass of wage slaves over in Japan. But when they first started trying to sell that in the west, where comics is a relatively marginal market to begin with, and there would be only one shelf for all the "cartoons for children" they had to rip all those pages out that contained gratuitous nudity and fetish porn.

Believe it or not, but that is Motoko and her random cyber-junky girlfriends having virtual sweaty lesbian-porn-for-straight-males-sex on her time off from the otherwise super serious cybercrime crushing over at Public Security Section 9. Oh, and that's Batou accidentally "walking in on them" trying to contact his fellow colleague wondering why she's late for work.

A lot of important character depth was lost to many of us in the west because of this censuring.
Yep. Motoko is actually a decadent self-indulgent perv tripping on a grinding existential crisis. Just like the readers! You gotta admire the sublime quality of that meta-level poetic symmetry. It sits in my bookshelf right next to our lord and savior Asimov, and I love it!

>>2499894
That style is so fucking weird, I really wants to know what is his process.

I mean, there are obvious 3D models, but then we have the skin of the body that has got a similar 3D model texture to it like the rest, but the lines clearly shows it's a drawing.

And does other people do the models? People have been calling him for being lazy, but those models are quite still pretty well made, and god knows modeling, texturing and rendering takes time.

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I made something stupid. I was getting frustrated drawing, so I just filtered the fuck out of everything. Been in a bit of a slump lately. Watched some Dead Leaves to get inspo.

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>>2499816
update

>>2501003
whyd you delete your thread?

>>2501005
wut?

>>2501006
you had a thread about your [literally] cuck commission no?

>>2501022
I think you're mixing me up with someone else. I don't even take commissions in the first place.

>>2500517
>>2500573
>>2500580
>>2500589
>>2500806
Thanks guys

I guess this is pretty fucked as a pose to being with and the perspective's not even there. I'll try redrawing it soon.

>>2500827
I'll have to look into making one soon.

>>2501040
mustve been a troll post then. or unrelated pic. I know you enough to know the art was yours though.

>>2501072
Where was that posted?

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hai.. critique?

>>2501075
right on this subreddit, it was someone claiming that they had a cuck commission asking when it got popular and how to come up with a script. I told him ( presumed you) that he could steal a script since he steals the art too.

>>2501090
your whole body is 0 perspective then you reach the feet. and suddenly it's perspective friday.

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>>2501090
Ah, I was thinking about drawing her this morning. Glad to see someone like-minded.

For what you have right now, I guess just clean up your overlapping edges and look into making use of line weight so the drawing's easier to read.

For next time, I'd say at least to try to make it look like she's an object in space; establish a horizon line.

>>2501145
Wait, as in a literal "cuck" theme commission? why did you even think it was me? He posted one of my drawings?

>>2501212
he posted a set of 8 drawings which were done by you. mostly busts if i recall. Part of your hero and demonlord series i believe.

>>2501145
>reddit
Jesus christ

>>2501212
>>2501213
I wonder what this dude did wrong to get all this hate. I don't like his art much and find him posting everywhere his stuff a bit annoying too, but man, if this keeps up its going to end like Magister or all those drawfags that were bullied until they gave up and disappeared

>>2501222
> everywhere

I post /a/ related stuffs and deliveries on the /a/ drawthreads, posts OC on the /jp/ OC drawthread, and sometimes post on this thread, and just post them on my blogs otherwise. I don't see the problem, can think of a few others doing the same.

Not like I'm reposting, putting some Patreon link on the drawings or shit like that either.

>>2501222
>>2501239
but arent you hated for having pretty much plagiarized like 20 times?

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>>2501243
he is

>>2501239
I mean "everywhere" as the boards with common users. its not really a real problem though, like you say lots of people do it. it only becomes a bit of an issue if you don't like the art
anyway I don't want you to stop or else, just take in consideration posting different things in different boards since there could be extremely negative feedback if you scratch someone's autism. maybe you don't know, but 4chan have a long history in severly shitting all over people for flimsy reasons. don't give it attention, but don't ignore it completely either.

>>2501243
No, there was just a old year sketch for which I tried to copy a pose to get the hang of it, then 2-3 of my other drawings were put in the same "comparison" image even though it was just similar poses. And that's it. Those are all pretty old too.

>>2501247
>copying a pose is plagiarizing
Full retard, seriously

>>2501250
> old year sketch
Which is the third one of >>2501247

I don't get what is supposed to be so similar with the other ones to talk about plagarization.

>>2501248
> only becomes a bit of an issue if you don't like the art

Or you know, you can just ignore it like any sane person would. Imagine if everyone shitposted for every drawings they don't like.

>>2501252
Plagiarization in this instance means "we need to shit on him because he's obviously a newfag and only draws popular stuff, if he drew shitty attempts at imitating some obscure author or ugly and boring anatomy studies like us, SERIOUS artist wannabes, nobody would had given him a single fuck"
betting fifty bucks on this one mate, few things are more jealous than internet artists

>>2501262
That's exactly what i do.

>>2501262
And anyway
>4chang
>sane people
c'mon dude

>>2501247
the third and fourth are kinda pushing it but the first two aren't that bad of "plagirism" perse, the third one looks almost completely traced while the others atleast has a good amount of variation in body shapes and angles

>>2501298
See
>>2501250
>>2501252

>>2501298
The upper body part of the fourth picture is also completely copied
This is how his works actually looks when he doesn't copies >>2501003

>>2501303
Why not quoting this one >>2498629 too?

You know, it becomes obvious which parts are "referenced " and which aren't because random aspects of the drawing suddenly make no sense.

>>2501315
So if it's not flawless it's copied?

>>2501321
It is when certain parts indicate skill level way higher than others.

>>2501303
>>2501311
those are not composed as well but the execution is there for the most part considering we are comparing different stages of completion and polish

>>2500826
>who cares
Youre the one who decided to share the story in the first place dipshit.

>>2499901
Is it weird that I like how the black guys are drawn more than the girl?

>>2501090
As I'm going over this again, I'd say the largest hiccup comes from the arms, as the sleeves don't seem to have much volume. They seem too flat.

>>2501356
They're super cute.

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>>2501051
yeah I think I'll just start from scratch

>>2501377

Have a feeling this isn't Photoshop due to the clean strokes. I like it. Sai/Krita/Manga Studio?

>>2501410
Thanks! It's Sai, yeah.

>>2501420
Garrison's ear is too far away from his jaw, and his head extends a little too far to the back

normally you could get away with that but it looks like you were drawing this with realistic proportions

other than that, 10/10 fucking beautiful

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Thanks and you are completely right, I am surprised that I didn't see it at first. Here is another I drew.

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>>2501437
nicee
do you have a blog? I always love seeing fellow /pol/ artists

another drawing I made:
http://i.imgur.com/G1NsStU.png

posting to imgur because mods might delete the post for being racist, even though its not really that racist

>>2501448
lol nice

I don't, I only have twitter but I don't post anything political there because employment.

I am going to keep posting here though and am planning on doing some really fashy stuff in the future.

>>2501449
cool. looking forward to seeing your drawings mane

>>2496538
I googled the image and found nothing, who is this guy?

>>2501455
Younger Vilpoi from legacy vhs tapes.
--

New logoless thread >>2501489

>>2501497
Oh, it's the old man? Thanks.

>>2502047
what the fucking fuck