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Last thread: >>2465014

This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make stylized works in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, yes butts!

>Fresh off the boat? Get back on the boat and read THIS:
http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>Proko
http://www.proko.com/videos/
>Ctrl+Paint
http://ctrlpaint.com/
>Hitokaku Index
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
>0033
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317
>List of active livestreams
http://livestreamstatuslist.appspot.com/
>fellowBro's books
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
>Tutorial/Reference Collection
http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>Taiwanese Tutorials
http://iradukai.com/
>Figures
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/
>Pose Practice
http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html

Remember the words of our good friend Glen Vilppu: “No rules, just tools.”

/ic/: "Daily reminder that one Artist can now make up to 25k biweekly"
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>>2474273
>that op image

kek
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>>2474273
is that your drawing chico?
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:D
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>>2474287
It's Boa's though correct me if I'm wrong senpai kun
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>>2474303
You are as correct as all the drawings in this thread bad.
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>>2474303
who's boa? another artist from another board again?

stop this
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>>2474352
He's right here >>2467128
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>>2474352
yup, artist from /a/, pretty cool guy.
probably doesn't want to be name dropped so much though. /a/utists need to hold up.
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>>2474283
Do you have a blog anywhere?
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>>2474320
how did you cheat your way into that body anatomy?
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>>2474517
By studying instead of being a massive faggot. Try it sometime.
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>>2474290
try to observe more carefully
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>>2474545
that doesnt explain how you can have literally no concept of what a hand, should or face is and somehow nail the torso but somehow completely fuck the legs.
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>>2474627
>what is eyeballing
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>>2474517
>>2474545
i just copied some random guide that i found by googling "how to draw anime girls"

>>2474574
yes i get carried away :D
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>>2474627
maybe she has a broken wrist :P
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>>2474655
>>2474365
>>2474320
>>2474290
beginner thread
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>>2474664
yeah well now only 9990 hours to go till i become a master :D
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>>2474682
>:D
Stop this while you're at it.
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>>2474732
:|
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how do I learn to draw cute furry stuff
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>>2474835
practice
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>>2474835
>Learn how to draw humans
>Learn how to draw animals
>Learn the fundamentals of design to figure out cute shapes and with your knowledge of human anatomy, you can make those shapes more complex
>Draw a snout, beak, or whatever for the mouth

There, a furry.
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Something stupid.
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I'll post the rest tomorrow maybe.
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Something less stupid. Aligator man.
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>>2475033
lel
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presenting you generic loli n 19933
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>>2474732
:D
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fucked up the pose and anatomy. some nigga told me to avoid tangents and vary line thickness but it feels off tho. anyway i can improve it?
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>>2475137
whoops wrong way
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>>2475143
minor anatomy issues aside, this lineart looks pretty cool and stylish anon
face looks kinda skewed but i couldn't comment further since it could be part of the style

looking forward to see it colored
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>>2475143
other than the hands it looks ok

if you were going to fix one thing on that drawing, it would be those hands
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We had an argument about structures of anime face.

Here's how japs do it in 3d.
I always was saying that it is not even a 3d object.
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>>2475291
I'd say this is the advantage of animation over live action.
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>>2475143

looks good.

you have the spark.

>222

can you post something from around 1 - 50 ?
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>>2475291
Where's this from?
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>>2475291
what, is it really not possible to model the face properly in 3d?
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>>2475329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBFvwI0ewLM
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>>2475332
YES
Eyes are distorted and moved on every face from every angle differently. mouth too.
Under chin area basicly doesn't exist and is hidden by any means possible.

Anime figures are designed to look good only from right angles, often they do hide the face so you can't see it from wrong angle.
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>>2475343
where is this from?
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>>2475291
that model doesnt have a 3d nose, so they distort the eye to account for the overlap that would occur at that angle, you can think in 3d with anime, all good anime artists do.
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>>2475349
Places
http://exhentai.org/g/673568/7a6f8549fd/
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>>2475334
Thanks, found the relevant article http://cgworld.jp/feature/1511-anista-2.html
>>2475332
As you can see it looks kind of more wrong, or at least more flat, if you model it properly.
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>>2475291
jesus christ
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>>2475364
what >>2475358 said, the shitty model you're posting is just a bad example, if you want proper 3d anime faces that look good from all angles simply look at well made waifu figures
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>>2475386
>that look good from all angles
Pretty often they are made to look good from right angles. and fair and stuff covers the wrong angles an under chin .
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>>2475386
>simply look at well made waifu figures
Eyes are literally painted on, they look like shit at the wrong angles. Even in high quality stuff like Alter and GSC.
If you want good 3d models look for Precure ED CG instead. Then again maybe they cheat there too.
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>>2475364
So they're adapting each angles and scenes to make the face looks good everytime.

That's interesting, but just feels like the same problem as the last Guilty Gear :
JUST FUCKING DO IT IN 2D

3D Anime will never ever look as good as 2D.
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>>2475391
those rules apply to normal human faces too though, the head will look weird from extreme angles and even with realistic/semi realistic styles you'll have to cheat and use artistic sense to make it look good,
the example model in those pictures is still really bad though and figures or models with much more solid facial structure will look way better
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>>2475291
You think that's bad?
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>>2475462
looks like some kind of gundam docking scene
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>tfw you don't have the spark
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>>2475404
The latest Guilty Gear was really close to capturing 2D with 3D. I'd like to see how much further they can go with it.
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>>2475291
>cherry picking a bad example as if it applied to everything
Figures are a good example of animus in 3d space.
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>>2475462
>>2475291
>>2475364

>>2475291
it already looks wrong even in the starting angle though.
if they wanted to do it, then there is no way such cheap put-together models could do it. they'd need to use models that have some elasticity to them. ones that can change their skull shapes if needed. think disney.
you need genuine artistic skill and a lot of effort to pull it off. again, think disney.
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Something about the eyes feels a little off, or is it just me? is the overall facial structure ok?

Am I on the right path?
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>>2475586
That's more like a sphere than an oval. When you divide the circle into thirds, the center of the circle in the side plane will be the brow ridge, top will be the hair line, bottom will be the bottom of the nose, another third down from there will be the chin, bottom of the eyes will be in the center of the head, and between the chin and the nose will be the bottom lip. If you're distorting the face it'll look more natural to exaggerate the bottom than otherwise.
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>>2475545
Modern 3D animation Disney characters don't ever change their skull shape. The facial muscles around the eyebrows, mouth and nose are elastic and done with stylized exaggeration in mind, the cranium is always stationary and never changes form. That's some old 2D animation Tom & Jerry shit.
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>>2475654
>Disney
Opinion discarded
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>>2475654
oh well, i thought they'd at least change the shape of the eye socket. i guess i was indeed thinking of older stuff. not a disneyfag here.
but my point still stands. they need to have actual 3 dimensional moving parts. not just mapped on symbols. i think it all comes down to budget
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Why did these threads change? It used too be anime/manga general and now there's all this other shit? Were the threads dying too fast and there was a merger?
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>>2475291
now that's just a stupid example. it doesn't prove anything. anime in 3D doesn't need to be distorted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMifE1bXOrg
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>>2475586
You are on the right track. Make sure the facial features are aligned, and think of everything as a three dimensional form.Keep at it, and do studies! Emulate the people you admire, and your own style will naturally come as you improve.

I'm not at professional level, but I'm a little further ahead than you.
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>>2475797
ayy
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>>2475735
her right leg seems to have quite a few errors on it.
The thigh is far larger than her left one, it also connects to the lower leg awkwardly.
The boot just kinda disappears, you should at least see parts of it past the other shoe.
The entire leg itself is longer than the left leg.
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>>2475797

bruh...
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>>2475802
lol. Totally. I was going for an big-eyed, small nose exaggerated style, but I she ended up as an alien. :(
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>>2475830
nah you're good
it's just the lack of ears kek
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>>2475797
People like you make me not quit. Just wondering, how do you feel about learning to draw (basics and all) with a tablet instead of traditional?
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>>2475291
>>2475772
also, this
i had to actually launch the game and take screenshots for proof
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>>2475847
don't thinks it looks very good
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>>2475855
Doesn't matter if it fits your tastes. The construction works perfectly fine in 3D and saying otherwise is just straight up retarded.
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Anime fag here. I realised i ruined the background, it's supposed to be splashing water
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>>2475856
>perfectly fine
More like it doesn't.
It looks kinda anime-ish but pretty shitty and not really like a well drawn stylised face, and not really like anime
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>>2475859
It's very light so you can still get away with a fix

I'd suggest to push your values some more; you had the right idea with the water at the bottom edge.
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>>2475863
>All anime is the same
the styles are basically identical, you can change the shape of her cheek without it changing the overall 3D structure.

Murata's style in 3D would look like something similar.
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>>2475863
Guilty Gear Xrd is all 3D and maintains the 2D style
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>>2475863
confirmed that it's just your personal taste/your own problem (deal with it yourself)

furthermore, i puffed her cheeks on purpose to make her look young.

you are seriously comparing not only 2D to 3D, but also age differences.
there's also flattened 3D to please your pleb tastes as >>2475869 mentioned.
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>>2475812
How's this?
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>>2475889
better, the right thigh still looks a bit large to me, but it could be angles and such since I'm just eyeballing it though.
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>>2475291
what about video games?
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>>2475889
thighs look like tubes. need more meat on them.
lower legs look too long compared to thighs. pic is different angle and pose but you can see the difference in proportions of the legs
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>>2475033
<3
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>>2475925
well to be fair loli legs would be kinda skinny
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>>2475933
looks more like a teenager to me. not to mention even lolis would have meatier thighs. right now it simply looks unnatural
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>>2475933
That isn't a loli though.
I don't think they're that thin though, I'd say they're decent enough sized that it falls under artist preference, if the thighs are changed to be larger than her calves.

The proportion part is right though.
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>>2475925
I do see what you're saying; I'm trying to shoot for a skinny body type so I deliberately went for the tube-form.
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Just free thinking.
Maybe the boots throw it off. Because pretty sure that's deffinetly a young girls legs.
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>mfw drawing with gimp and shit tablet.

I love not being able to draw.
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>>2475991
you haven't posted the full pic of the previous one! >:(
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>>2475889

sort of looks like the leg attaches to her hooha, tried to illustrate what I mean, i wish i had your talent for cute grills
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The shitposting is obvious you know.
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>tfw you know you're not gonna make it
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First time coloring anything digitally.
Crits and tutorial suggestions welcome.
Thank you.
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>>2476056
Try rendering in grayscale first. It will teach you a lot about conveying form. As is, this looks extremely flat and lazily done.
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>>2476067
Is there a loomis/vilppu/hampton equivalent tutorial about digital painting? Any specific tutorial I should look for?

Thanks for the tip btw.
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>>2475146
>>2475180
fixed what i could, the legs and and gesture is super fucking awkward but ill learn from my mistakes

>>2475325
the numbers aren't chronological i just save them with 3 random digits, if your talking earlier work i can compile some if your interested
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>>2475735
really cute senpai.
<3
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>>2476056
There is nothing really to critique if you only spent like 15 minutes using the bucket tool.
Also its hideous and does the character no justice. The way you drew the tits is also fucking disgusting.
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doodle
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>>2476302
>dat bulge
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do you guys feel like the background is distracting?
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>>2476473
what background kek
also that arm twist doesn't seem comfortable. nice rendering though
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>>2476473
everything distracts from everything else o.O i can't look at this
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>>2476473
The dent in her face and broken arm are what's distracting.
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ayy
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>>2476576
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>>2476584
wat
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>>2476586
I think he's saying your boobs are oddly weighted in different directions.
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>>2476588
way i see it
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>>2476179
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>>2475545
>it already looks wrong even in the starting angle though.
this
that's just a ball with eyes symbols drawn on it, if you want good 3d from all angles, then you need to make the cranium, eye balls, muscles, skin and so on all individually, and be able to control them
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A little environment practice.
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>>2476689
bretty gud!
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>>2476629
>you need to make everything from scratch
Incorrect. It's not feasible to do that. The eyes should be separated, but skin from bones? That adds no benefit to the project, takes more time and resources to animate it as well. Horrible idea.
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>>2476729
not finished and some
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>>2476703
at the level with are with technology, the effort doesn't justifies the benefits, true, but it's wrong to say there are no benefits for separating the skin from the bones

it gives more liberty in expression, character customization and movement

if you have the skin separated from the bones, making an elderly or fat character would be just as easy as the default one, with the bonus of each fold of skin acting on their own physics, and not of the bone's

if you can control the skin, the eyes and mouth can act more close to reality

and finality, you could even create believable expressions in strong wind, where the skin can be pushed by it, like in a rolecoaster or when in free fall
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>>2476738
at the level WE with are wi
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>>2476729
me likey
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>>2476729
somewhere I can follow you?
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The grey box is the suggested crop, is there any way I could frame her better?
I'm clueless as far as composition goes. By the time I realize it's shit, it's too late
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>>2476812
guess i want make my trash with sketches here
https://twitter.com/Pops322
soon will activity it and add alot link on another ( devian artstans and pixiv) when i start work hard
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>>2476830
don't even bother with dedviantart my comrade
it's shit
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>>2476830
found your dA, you are getting monitored
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>>2476873
I logged in just to upvoat this :^)
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>>2476838
>>2476873
>>2476883
tnx, i need work harder and grow more,im sure ill be
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>>2476886
did you take up that faggots offer?
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need to study more

too bad beginner thread almost never comments on my practices
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does this look ok senpai-tachi?
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>>2477163
Cleavage shouldn't be one thick black line. Unattractive.
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>>2477163
Beginner thread doesn't respond to alt art normally if that's what you mean by "practice".
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>>2477259
I get you're trying to make it look like a lively, "extreme" pose, but she honestly looks broken. Maybe make the hips less turned away from the rest of the body? Or make the torso point more towards the viewer, and use a bit of dank "foreshortening". Looks nice in concept though.
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>>2477296
no I mean my realisms
drawing animu doesn't really count as practice, I agree with chu famu
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>>2477259
same problem as the tentacle guy from last thread. gesture is too confusing and going in all kinds of directions.
also absolutely stop chickenscratching
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>>2476813
Move her a bit to the right so she's centered.
>>2477447
That's not chicken scratching.
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>>2477467
it is. he's using several strokes to make even the simplest curves.
doing it every now and then isn't an issue, but he's doing it across the board, so that's bad.
even if it doesn't look like classic chicken scratch, it's the same principle.
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>>2477259
erase the left leg, close the file, come back to it tomorrow (or even better, in a few days)
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>>2477259
You're trying too hard with your pose and it serves so purpose.
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>>2477791
*serves no purpose
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>>2477740
good
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>tfw you finally give up and move on with your life.
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>>2477817
>implying you have a life
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>>2477163
We're obsessed with muh loomis
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Requesting redline.
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>>2478035
I think you should give her less muscle definition etc. Also needs thinner arms and legs imo. Looks slightly uncanny to me. If you're not dead set on using that style I think you should go on sadpanda and find color CG sets and see how the nips tend to do it
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>>2478038
Yeah, I haven't drawn digitally in a month, so I just kind of experimented. Thanks!
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>>2477740
blog
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do you think i overdid the gradients guys?
somehow it feels like the top and bottom part of the body have a different skin color altogether
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>>2478094
It looks okay, fampai-san
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>>2476175

late reply, but i'd like to see your early work
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>>2478094
didn't really notice til you said it. The point of a gradient like that is to move the focus to the upper part, right? So as long as the upper part is more interesting to look at, i'm sure it's fine

-

I'm deciding on outfits, any anons wanna pick for me? Or should I leave her naked?

Is the head a bit big?
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>>2478119
i like A and B but i think i'm leaning towards A more since B looks a bit bland

i don't think C could be considered as "outfit" though
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>>2478119
do you even know what shoulders are?
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>>2478131
not quite, what's wrong with the shoulders?

>>2478123
Alright, I'll go with A
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>>2477794
Thanks!
>>2478075
grachh.tumblr.com/tagged/art
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>>2478094
I really like this, blog?
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I would really like a crit on this. Im struggling with the pose.
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>>2478163

looks ugly and unnatural
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>>2478161
glad you like it anon!
http://hersheyschocobar.tumblr.com/
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>>2478163

Liking the face, the body could be better structured tho
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>>2478163
I'm not good so don't take this too seriously, try it if you like it.

I think you should try to get more gesture into her body.
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>>2478173
I would try to introduce some value contrast between her gloves and skin
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>>2478190
Different anon, you think adding line weight to the gloves would work? Or at least where the gloves overlaps the forearm?
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>>2478035
She looks like she took a trip to /fit/, saw a picture of Zyzz and decided to get swole.

I like it.
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Is this feeling anymore natural/interesting? I like the idea of her holding cotton candy but maybe its too bulky
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>>2478203
This is better, anon, both the pose and the shapes are a bit more pleasant to the eye now. If I were you, I would try and set her legs into a perspective, so that they "point" more to the viewer.
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>>2478133
>not quite, what's wrong with the shoulders?
you didn't even draw them
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So these threads are focused on anime but what if I want to learn a western style?
I really like the angular style what was so common on the 00's

what do I do?
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>>2478263
break down the figure into geometric shapes, study, apply
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Not sure how I should continue this drawing. Design of the throne so far is pretty random.
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>>2478302
How does one become popular on /a/? I sometimes see some top-notch deliveries get completely ignored there, while worse-than-the-average-poster-here deliveries get major hype.
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>>2478302
Study some more references of thrones.
There are good designs you could emulate
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>>2478406
anime tiddies, clean lines, color, a background, anime tiddies. Why would you want to be popular there tho?
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>>2478414
I'm trying to become more popular by producing content at least once a week on Tumblr, but it's just not working out. I was able to get on FA more followers in a month than I was able to in years on Tumblr, and most of those are bots anyway.

Basically, I'm moving out this autumn to attend uni (animation). My parents agreed to pay for the dorm (150 euros a month), but I need to find an income to eat and maybe even buy clothes. Honestly, I'm thinking of saying fuck it to trying to get commissions with animu/cartoon art and trying furry instead.
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I haven't done digital in a while, and I'm relarning a lot.
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>>2478434
The little of body you drew is a mess and the face is ugly as sin, what with the huge nose and low mouth? Top of the hat is too small too, you seems to have forgotten it's supposed to be bigger than the head.
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>>2478442
>I'm trying to become more popular
You just have to draw porn of LoL, MLP, Nintendo, skill doesn't really matter.
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>>2478434
>>2478442
Alright, a second try then,
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>>2478454
B-but I'm not familiar with any of those.
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>>2478499
Or any other cartoons from your childhood.
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>>2478410
Yeah, didn't intend to keep it anyway, might as well do a solid throne design since I'm at it.
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>>2476689

ZEDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGG

did you use cintiq?

>>2478173

digging the armpit hair
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>>2478487
Nope, same problems.

Just did changes to the faces to emphasizes how bad the proportions of the body are. Might as well use references for now.
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>>2478428
or you can get a real job working retail or customer service or some shit, trying to make money with art is really hit or miss especially when you are an amateur
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need some feed back regarding this pose

im pretty awful when it comes to body orientation in relation to poses, would appreciate any suggestions on making the pose more natural and believable
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>>2478579
Flip your drawing, it has lots of problems and that should help you to see them. Everything seems deformed and to be falling on the left, which obviously isn't right.
Secondly, use references for your bodies, you'll need it. Might as well do the same for Anime faces because it looks pretty bad.
Third, use thicker lines and try to remove your chicken scratching.

What's with those deformed hairs for example? Like what the hell? Draw them in one stroke.

You seems to try to be doing detailed anime drawings, but you clearly don't know the good method and you're not at it yet to make it looks good.
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>>2476473
looks like that thing from harry potter where the guy magics the bones out of harry's arm
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>>2478591
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>>2478630
Stop giving redlines.
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>>2478632

> being butthurt towards constructive criticism

not going to make it
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>>2478630
this is useless
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>>2478636
Not the guy who drew that I am telling you to stop giving redlines and making yourself look like an idiot.
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>>2478643
>>2478638

look again idiot.

the arm is positioned wrong, and the head is too low.
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>>2478487
tried to fix for you anon. her head is too small, neck to wide and long etc. It is better than your first one though so keep working at it.
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>>2478487
There's a lot of things wrong with this, but it all stems from a lack of foundation.
If you want to improve you're going to have to go back to the basics.

Before doing any of that though, lower your brush size, it's not doing you any favors at this point in time.
It's great for someone who understands anatomy but you're not at that level yet.
All it's doing for you is making your lines more vague and hiding your mistakes from yourself, sure it might look cleaner than when you chicken scratched >>2478434 but it's basically the same thing.
The main reason why your line art isn't clean isn't because you're not used to drawing with a tablet, it's because you lack confidence, and you lack confidence because you don't understand what you're drawing.

Focus on proportions and anatomy, do figure studies http://artists.pixelovely.com/

It's also really important to practice what you learn without using reference.
First it allows you to know where you stand in your knowledge of anatomy, highlighting where you need to study more.
Second it forces you to think about what you're drawing, this really helps you understand anatomy instead of just memorizing it.
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>>2478651
Do you know how joints work?
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>>2478591
Nice one. It's a bit too scratchy, you need to work on line economy.
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>>2478592
How would i go about finding the good way of drawing anime?

im practicing with trial and error so even though i know im bad in a lot of areas i just draw for the sake of drawing more and its hard to practice through traditional means since anime is so stylized. So things like facial structure and hair is extremely hard for me to nail considering they dont behave like actuall forms in real space

also doesnt help that im dog shit at digital i guess,i cant use tablets worth a shit. Also trying to trial and error that until i go to classes for digital drawing next year
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>>2478203
blog
>>2478302
that hand
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I sort of feel like I'm polishing a turd at this point. Im having a lot of trouble with the hands an arm, they seem awkward but I'm not sure how to fix them.
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i would like some help with this old piece of shit
i know there's something wrong with the legs and hands but, what else am i missing?
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>>2479084
...such small hands...Your line art, face and body proportions look pretty good, but please make your hands larger. (the head could also be large)
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>>2479039
Leave it for now and do stdies then. I also really hate the face and hair, but like the overall idea.
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>>2479084
>>2479090
it's like that scene out of deadpool :P

>>2479039
i like this! cool style
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>>2479084
Her upper and lower body look out of proportion.
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>>2479096
shoulders are too wide compared to the tiny hips/waist, right?
>>2479090
thanks, i'll fix them right away
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>>2476689
That looks really good. Got any more work?
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>>2478173
nb, blog?
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>>2479084
ok fixed version
i tried my best to fix the problem with the hands+hips too small, but still and after a lot of messing around trying to adjust them, the legs keep bothering me...?
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>>2479163
it's cute, try a 360 of them if you're up to it
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>>2475291
In my opinion that's not really necessary. If you see Pixar's work such as Inside Out, you don't need to go that far for a cartoony face
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Beginner here, could I have some feedback on pic related?

I'm terrible at anatomy so maybe several things are off and I can't notice

I have no idea how to go about the dude near the tank's back btw, I'll try to work on it more later but maybe some overall guidance would go a long way
Thanks for anyone willing to give feedback
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Most of these are not "thats wrong" questions but trying to make you figure out what you are trying to do and trying to express, because right now it seems to be a big mess of poorly understood clichees.

Is she resting idly on that thing or clutching on the pole to keep from slipping down or is it one of these magic antigravity fluff scenes?
Where does her butt rest on that animal and where does her whole body weight go? Down? Forward? Center?
Is that pose supposed to be comfortable or strangling?
Where do her legs rest or why are they in that position?
Where does her right arm with the cotton candy rest or why is it in that position so far in front of her?
Why is she buckling foward?
Is she leaning on that pole or holding on it?
What has that flow of hair to do with the entire composition of the picture and her pose?
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>>2479039
>>2479324
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>>2479323
Those two towers in the backgrounds looks quite flat and deformed on their top.
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>>2479357
Your mom is flat and deformed.
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>>2476180
>hideous
>fucking disgusting
So constructive.
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>>2476172
Yeah. Read the OP
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How do I unfuck her head
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>>2476473
Yes.
Filmicly,even on a camera with a very low aperture, the background robot would still be in focus, or at least the leg she's resting on, Because it comes into the plane she's at. SInce it's anime, I suggest just drawing out the entire thing, but do it in small steps, knee first, then leg, finally body, so that you can look at the big picture and see what works.
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>>2478574
Out of the question. I'd rather study and practice 6 hours a day rather than get a real job, god forbid a job that involves talking to people. I could probably survive with 120 euros or so a month.
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>>2479163
Noob reporting in, hmm, I think the clothes on her legs seem a bit 'flat', like they were drawn onto her legs with marker.
For example, the elastic part of her socks should be sticking out a tiny bit to make it seem like an actual article of clothing. Same goes for the shoes, as they just look like shapes that were drawn in with smaller lines in them (though if this is what you were going for, scrap everything I just said).
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>>2479359
wew lad
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>>2479322
You really should work on general composition. Where am I supposed to look, where's the point of interest?
I think the viewing angle is also pretty flat in general, you should practice drawing characters from different angles and poses.
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>>2479405
I knew it! I'll see what I can do with the stockings and the lazy ass shoes, thanks!
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>>2479413
Why not just redraw it, you said this was an old piece of shit?
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LF feedback raw sketch
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>>2479322
seconding this anon >>2479407
you need to read more about perspective and anatomy

also try thinking in 3d
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>>2479426
>cinnabon_girl.jpg
JK anon, it looks pretty cute, if a bit flat
especially the tail, it doesn't look like it has volume at all
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>>2479323
Nice! You are getting better at making them look actually big. Push the perspective even more tho, usually with drawing giants you want to convey a sense of being overwhelmed and pushing the perspective works wonders for that. The people in fromt should blend in a little more, especially the 2 on the left pop out too much, they are separated from the background with black outlines and the colors are stronger than the colors of your focal point which is the giant loli, that makes them stand out even more. Also like other anon said, some buildings are really half-assed(not only the towers, the little house next to her leg makes no sense either), it ruins the overall image a little.
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>>2479426
it really does look like she is sitting on a turd tho... don't make cinnabon girl 2.0
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>>2479441
>>2479444
what do you mean with cinnabon girl?

I can't draw the tail not flat and manage to design it's volumes kek, so i'll made the form more obvious but a bit flat, some snakes are like that anyway
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>>2479448
oh np, I remember the ic meme
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>>2479417
I don't have so much time in my hands right now, but yeah, I'll have to eventually re draw everything. And I mean it when I said it's an old piece of shit, the original scan is three years old, my drawings don't look so animu anymore.
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>>2479448

The tail anatomy is wrong. It just appears from no particular direction
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I did some more work on that shitty drawing from that shitty thread from two weeks ago. I didn't use the original as a direct reference.

Is this alright so far?
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>>2479495
is it fixed now?
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>>2479544
yes, it looks so much better now
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>>2475358 because noses are hard to look great at all angles they resort to just drawing pretty triangles.
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>>2479516
God damnit anon just drop it
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>>2475343
Reasons why I love manga artist usually has to do with how well they draw noses.
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>>2479516
WHHHHYYYYYYYYYY
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>>2476813
Redraw her and have her holding those two things closer too her chest and squeezing her boobs. have the smoke eratically move as if she just reach in giving interest to the viewer in contrast with the blushing face, then finally have her face closest to all objects giving her that beautiful looking down angle that girls look better in.
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>>2478035
why is she covered in oil?
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>>2478579
I like how you framed the gun between her legs anon. although its kinda pointless because people are already gonna look there anyway when her legs are spread like that. maybe have it covering that area, like a cocktease?
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>>2479443
Thanks for this, not sure if I got it all though. Agreed on the two figures at the bottom left, but they are tantamount to the events that passed by during the course of the picture (It's fanart for an in-game scenario), so I tried to still show a bit of detail on them.
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>>2479391
i suggest looking at similar images of the same pose and just seeing how the heads are drawn
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>>2479623
Hey. I've been watching you for a while and I'd like to drop a piece of advice as well.

To add to what anon said, I've noticed a trend in your giant loli compositions that I think is hurting and holding you back, that trend is that the loli is always seen in her full form, she's always the immediate focus and everything around here is "just there". The only reason we know she's big is after looking for a bit and noticing "these things just there" are buildings and such. It's still nice but it could be so much more.

What about thinking outside the box and making a drawing from inside a house for example? Seeing the backs of random people looking outside their window and seeing a giant loli? In a view like this the loli will immediately strike as being big, but more than anything you'll need to refrain yourself from absolutely wanting to draw 95% of her body. In the same vein, (re)watch some Shingeki no Kyojin (or look at the manga), I'm sure it'll give you a couple ideas to spice things up.

My post is a mess I know but whatever. Oh and it's not like I'm saying your art is shit or that you should change everything, nah not at all. I just think you have the potential to do and experiment more things.
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>>2479645
I think I'll definitely give this a shot. I haven't really fully studied into drawing "random people running about" much, but I think it's about time that I should give it a full try instead of avoiding it too. Thanks for the advice, anon.
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>>2479646
Hope you didn't take what I said in the wrong way though, I don't think there's anything wrong with each of your compositions, if we take that latest one for example it's great I like it. What I wanted to convey is that there is little variation between all of them and varying could probably open you new doors.
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>>2475847
What game
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>>2479670
tera
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how am I going?
is the snek pattern too much fucked up?
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>>2479674
would teabag
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>>2479674
i think you don't need to add those patterns on her undersides. besides, they look kinda distracting

it kinda piles up and producing an effect similar to pic related
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>>2479674
Probably too late too fix, but snakes don't really bend at sharp angles like that. The girl part is pretty gud.
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Starting with no loli now we here (c) hentai dude
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>>2479702
>...and then she farts!
>>
was in the mood for some slime
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>>2479427
>>2479407
Would the best way to fix that just put the two characters on the left in the middle of the picture?

I think that's where the picture's focal point is.

As far as the angles goes, I'm pretty satisfied with the picture's angles because these characters have very very little art of them

This means that for a beginner, it is very difficult to imagine completely new angles for the clothing of these characters (the girl holding the rifle, there's only one art of her and it's sort of frontal one)


But besides that, any big anatomic issues to take care of before coloring?

Pic will get some minor adjustments on the tank before coloring too I suppose

Also thanks for the feedback
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>>2474517
What do you mean, it's not at all decent.
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>>2479598
Does she really look that oily, though?
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>>2479764
> it is very difficult to imagine completely new angles for the clothing of these characters (the girl holding the rifle, there's only one art of her and it's sort of frontal one)
That's why you need to learn perspective and anatomy. So you can break down the character into some basic forms and then you can rotate them to any angle you want

>But besides that, any big anatomic issues to take care of before coloring?
Plenty (arms and boobs don't work that way, for example), general ratio is off, etc.
Your anatomy in general is lacking, you need to work on that. Go read loomis or something
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tail could be better, but meh
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>>2479808
Thanks lad, I'll put this picture on hold and come back to it after I get a better sense of anatomy
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>>2479763

i like your style.

you have the spark

blog?
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>>2479826
thanks :D

nah right now i have a pixiv profile

but i still don't consider myself good enough to go public
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>>2479817

good for what it is
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>>2479827

post one more of your images?
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>>2479841

There is this
>>2475118

or pic related
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>>2479841

Btw this was me on january
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>>2479845
>>2479847
Stop drawing anime for now and go learn the fundamentals.
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These two
>>2479845
>>2479763

look way better than this one>>2475118
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>>2479851

youre just incredibly jealous of his progress

as you can see from his slimegirl, he has perfect grasp of anatomy and perspective

post your work?
oh wait you're shit
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never tried anime before
i dunno what im doing
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>>2479855

you lack the spark.
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>>2479852
i know, but i wanted to try to draw something from a more difficult perspective


I'm feeling i'm falling in the comfort zone by drawing only on "eye level"
>>2479853

>perfect

nah thank you but i may say that when i'll be able to draw any pose from any angle

and make it look cute :(
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>>2479853
ok
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>>2479858
please elaborate
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>>2479868
It's a shitpost.
you won't find worthwhile critique here
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>>2479853
Dude stop sucking so much dick it's cringy as fuck. Even the artist admits that he's not that good.
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>>2479873
oh
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>>2479851
btw if he is the guy that is telling me to stop drawing anime since 2 weeks

i must thank him, i made some progress by doing this horrendous thing

and it helped me in improving the slime girl
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>>2479877
lel it was an old version of the head
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>>2479874

dude go back to tumblr dude
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>>2479866
>>2479874

> doesnt post work

point proven, you're shit, hes good.

deal with it
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uhm...new thread >>2479891
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>>2479868

it looks like shit

anime is supposed to do two things;

1) look nice

2) make your dick hard

your shitty attempt did neither
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>>2479890
(you)
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>>2479894
>2) make your dick hard
pornfags in a nutshell
fucking kill yourself
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>>2479933
the guy is trolling but sexual appeal is an undeniable touchstone for a large amount of material.
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>>2479817
>chromatic aberration
なぜなの
Still, pretty good. As for the tail, the big problem is the end should taper more. By the time it gets to the part she's sitting on, it should be only about as thick as it is where it starts at her hips. Also personally I'd do away with the 'knees.'
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>>2476732
I really really like this one.
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>>2475856
it does look like shit in full frontal view.
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>>2476729
Is this in PS?
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